Leaders have old SA thinking - DA

2012-08-16 22:19

Johannesburg - The youth in South Africa need to stop fighting their leaders' battles, DA national spokesperson Mmusi Maimane said on Thursday.

"We have a new South Africa led by old South Africans with old South African thinking," Maimane said in Johannesburg.

"We need to look at what are we mobilising the youth to do."

He said it was concerning when young people stood up and said they would kill for their leaders, and called to make provinces ungovernable.

Former ANCYL leader Julius Malema said in 2008 that he was prepared to "take up arms and kill for [President Jacob] Zuma". The league recently said it intended making the Western Cape ungovernable.

Maimane was speaking at a debate, hosted by the Institute for Justice and Reconciliation, between the Democratic Alliance, the Young Communist League of SA, and the ANC Youth League, about youth participation and mobilisation.

YCLSA national chairperson Yershen Pillay said the country's youth needed bold and radical policy decisions.

"We need less dependence on the state if we are going to drive change."

This was why the proposed youth wage subsidy would not work.

"It doesn't adequately respond to... the unemployment we face."

Pillay said the youth subsidy served the interest of business rather than the youth, and did not consider the education and skills gap.

The YCLSA was proposing a medium-term, and a long-term plan for 2050. This included investment in co-operative development.

"We need to give young people a chance," said Pillay.

"There needs to be a cultural change, make education fashionable."

He said the youth needed education and skills development, access to information, and entrepreneurship development.

"You have a melting pot of interventions. A culture of service needs to replace a culture of entitlement," said Pillay.

The ANCYL's Vuyo Roji said there were people in South Africa who wanted the economic status quo to stay the same.

"There are enemies," he said.

On the National Development Plan tabled in Parliament on Wednesday, Roji said the ANCYL did not believe a "political elite" could solve the problems.

"We don't think academics can sit in a corner and tell us what we need to do."

The ANCYL's vision was to have an economy which eliminated poverty.

He said the youth league still believed in nationalising strategic sectors of the economy, expropriation of land without compensation, and free education.

Youth leaders needed to provide leadership.

"They must be able to persuade and be persuaded," he said.

  • grootrot.vanzyl - 2012-08-16 22:41

    Like the NYDA did with our tax money? No one is going to invest in anything that has the word "communist" attached to it, except maybe China, but their policy is to feed the homeless to the hungry.

      fred.murgatroyd - 2012-08-16 23:25

      I think most people miss the point. What the ANCYL should be doing, if they actually have the welfare of the youth at heart, is encouraging the youth to dedicate themselves to applying themselves to learning at schools, instead of destroying everything. Encourage them to get educated so that they can first of all become employable, and then hopefully some can become entrepreneurs starting businesses and employing people so that this country can start developing a bit quicker and growing. Also they should be encouraging the youth not to expect everything to be given to them, but to work hard for what they want, and to help build the country instead of tearing it apart. Unfortunately most of the ANCYL have been led astray by the bad example of their leaders, and the leaders of their parent body. The youth must understand that they cannot become successful leaders, engineers, doctors or scientists without education. There are no short-cuts in life, and success is not achieved by demand but by hard, persistant and diligent work.

      lionel.defrontignac - 2012-08-17 05:23

      The Chinese may use the term communist - but they are aggressively capitalistic, and have a serious work ethic, unlike the bunch of Gucci commies here...

      J.Stephen.Whiteley - 2012-08-17 06:25

      Well said l.d

      rudi.debeer.5 - 2012-08-17 09:13

      @ lionel I have been to China recently.If sa had labour laws like they have, Vavi will have a heart attack. 60+ hour work week is the norm. 3 days leave a year. 3 days maternity leave. If you are sick for more than 3 days. Dont bother coming back to work. Workers just keep quite,because that is how it works in a communist system.

  • lacrimose.wolf - 2012-08-16 22:52

    They are already persuaded - by a fantasy dreamt up in the late 1800's. Few are able to deal with the realities of today, 2012. Far easier to hang onto history already written and lived than create a new one. Leadership is completely misunderstood. It's turned into cute soundbites, shiny things, rhetoric and a hefty dose of horrible history at every turn. True Leadership is about solving problems. Not ideas, policies, procedures, etc. but actually solving problems. In this respect we as a nation and in most layers of public and private society are paralysed (or paralysed by the laws). If you've ever seen movies on shock treatment, imagine a whole nation shocked day after day after day until they end up like those movie inmates. Incapable of putting on their clothes but capable enough to swallow a pill. We need leadership but we also need a society capable of thinking instead of reacting

  • mmenzisco - 2012-08-17 00:05

    "There needs to be a cultural change, make education fashionable". I strongly agree.I think our energy have been too focus in blaming the past. Well, we are free to access any information and I don't think we are using our opportunities properly. We are free to do anything we want to improve our lives. After the freedom they fought for, we decided to take the back seat and expect to be given. If we can't realise and acknowledge that we have a problems. We can't really say lets solve these problems when we say you don't have a problems, but it is our past that is problem. We definitely cannot reserve to the past. We need to snap out of the past. The problem is doesn't really lie on leadership only, but African are still in the box (our minds) that we were put in and we don't want to get out of it. Although that box has been long open so we can get out of it. It is the way we think and perception that is destroying and holding us back in Africa. If Chinese can do it, we can do better than them as long as we can realize there is a problem. And to solve these problems, we need to work real hard and smarter than before. BLAMING APARTHEID WILL NEVER HELP US. EVEN IF WE CAN HAVE NATIONALISATION BUT WE WILL STILL HAVE THE PROBLEMS COZ OUR ATTITUDES HASN'T CHANGED. Nationalising strategic sectors of the economy, expropriation of land without compensation, and free education is not the solution. Will free education make kids want to go to school and complete the degree? cont...

      mmenzisco - 2012-08-17 00:46

      I will like to think, 85% of South African kids have access to education. What do we put out at the metric level, may be it's only 50% (made up stats). How many makes to the first year at the University level, may be 30% (Verified stats). Then only 15% makes to the second year. And only about 8% if not less graduate from college or universities. Out of that of the 8%, may be it's only 1% that did pure science which is one of the main solution that will help to elevate poverty in Africa. Only about 0.2% that will be interested in doing research which will be an answer to many problem. And then we have lazy ass teacher. Yeah, free education will be highly welcome, but I personally don't think will help us with the attitude we have. Nationalisation will drag along with it; corruption, and lazy government employees. Nationalisation will really work if the government put people who have skill, loyal, integrity, and hard workers attitude rather than put comrades who have no clue. I think our energy have to be re-focus to realise what we think is the solution, it is not. But it's an attitude and believe of South African people that is the main problem.

      piet.boerie - 2012-08-17 05:15

      Amen brother. We are in this together the whole working class, the poor and even CEO’s. This is our one struggle against those that profited and created apartheid and that now corrupt the new government into their greedy ways. Where so the Billions of Billions the country makes go? The current leadership are either so last century with their policies and the cadre mentality of non accountability and some are just gangsters robbing us blind. We the people need be willing to kick the politicians out of power when they don’t deliver and if they fail as a party find a new party. If we keep doing what we are currently doing we will have status quo and nothing will change. Liberation through education and not manipulation.

  • daniel.malan.7923 - 2012-08-17 00:27

    The same sick mentality, but far worse integrity and organisational talents.

      ryan.wolf.50999 - 2012-08-17 02:31

      well said !!

  • BulletProof. - 2012-08-17 00:38

    Yes tell them to stop hate speech promoted by ANC leaders and start buil this nation like civilized people, is getting late, TOO LATE!!!

      ryan.wolf.50999 - 2012-08-17 02:32

      90 % aren`t civilized !!!

  • kgosi.otimile - 2012-08-17 03:50

    The ANC has created bad culture of protesting even when it's not necessay, the sad part about it is: it has been grabbed by people who are not even educated or quater intellectual like 1976 generation who they new what they were doing. Now people protest even when they don't understand the reason behind and it's unfortunate that they are learning from the best ANCYL & mother body. There is no doubt that everyone can see that ANC it's a flop and is a mess currently. We(ANC) are in power but clueless. Twisting people's minds especially in the rural areas to vote for them by playing apartheid movies and videos few weeks before the votes polls...? why? just to stir up anger and hatred within our people. The youth league lost the plot long time ago, infact i don't remember the time when they were talking about sound issues facing the youth education, drugs, pregnancy, abortion, and HIV/AIDS etc...! These ANCYL don't and never had a vision for this country. I'M PART OF THE YOUTH OF THIS COUNTRY! AFFECTED AND AVAILABLE!!! WHAT CAN WE DO TO CHANGE THIS???

  • jakes.cakedregs - 2012-08-17 03:56

    A culture of PRODUCTIVITY needs to replace a culture of entitlement, Pillay should have said

  • kobus.hattingh.5 - 2012-08-17 04:49

    In that case, then also get rid of Helen Zille and all over 40 year old's in the DA as well.

      fred.murgatroyd - 2012-08-17 07:57

      @ kobus.h - You show yourself to be a total dickhead. Helen Zille does more for this country in one hour than you probably will do in your entire life time

  • howard.komati - 2012-08-17 05:17

    Mmusi Maimane must have grown in the backyard of his white masters. We can engage

      tw2066 - 2012-08-17 05:25

      Ag sies shame howard, feeling a bit racist this morning? If you want to get engaged to him, tou need to shed your racist chip first.

      lorain.maseko - 2012-08-17 08:04

      Actually howard Mmusi is a very smart brother it's just that he still has his rose coloured glasses on and doesnt see white South Africans for what they truly are, he will wake up one day though coz we all had to.

      mo.matt.14 - 2012-08-17 09:32

      Wow, black on black racism! As soon as a black guy starts talking some sense, starts talking unity, peace, upliftment, and especially if he talks anything against the ANC thieves, he is immediately branded a coconut or accused of growing up with white "masters". You want equality, yet you cannot stand equality. No correction, you want to be spoon fed, and want everything for free. EXACTLY the sense of entitlement Mmusi us talking about here, howard.komati, and you got it BAD. Shame on you, turning on your own. Luckily it is people like you that will eventually cause the downfall of your corrupt party. The youth of today are not stupid (excluding the brainwashed ANCYL members). Eventually they will rise up against people like you. Mark my words

  • tw2066 - 2012-08-17 05:43

    Revoulution ove evolution. The ANC may have done a great job as a revolutionary party. The Youth were in the trenches as is true with most revolutionary organisations, and draft armies in fact. Now (18 years later mind you), their Youth are still revolutionaries. The problem being the target or enemy ... they have had a go at the whites, at the coloureds, at Botswana, at the opposition and now at their mother body. It used to be "anti establishment" in the 60s. The ANC on the other hand, has lost its academics and is staffed by yester years revolutionaries. Now the ANC have the same pain their youth league have, they have had a go at the whites, the opposition, their own youth league and are now having a go at themselves - hence factionalism, but they are taking a sizeable chunk of the uneducated population with them into this "reovolution" - and the word comes up often - even though the same party has been in power for 18 years! When someone has a go at anything - other than ANC, they feed this revolutionary idea. This little revolution has already cost the economy - a mass importer, mines closed, job losses, inflation, high crime, rogue state, visa restrictions - to name but a few changes to our little Bantustan - and soon this REVOLUTION will kill us off altogether - because the uneducated masses are too stubborn or stupid to stop the rot, and in the youth we are breeding tommorows problems today.

  • flaming.oven - 2012-08-17 07:26

    2050 is definately long term planning. A lot can happen in 40 years!!

  • stefan.kruger.1297 - 2012-08-17 07:45

    The youth needs to stop fighting their leader’s battles???? HUH??? Ok hold on, for years and years our “so called" LEADERS couldn't do JACK SH#T to this country, so what makes him think they could actually fight a battle for us... WE ARE THE MAJORITY IDIOT!! People are freaking out, killing and damaging our country because of protests that was caused by the actions of our government... So put yourself in the shoes of those who lives in shacks, and feed from the bottom... YOU WILL DAMAGE BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOTHING.... People are fed up and tired of how this country is being pushed into the ground… And only We, THE NATION – TOGETHER can change this… not a political structure…. Ps… don’t let me even starts on the un-employment problem… go to your closest ABSA and see how many tills are open… IDIOTS!!

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