Let's talk - Malema to ANC leadership

2012-02-26 22:33

Johannesburg - A rift between the ANC Youth League and its mother body can be resolved though a mere meeting, suspended league president Julius Malema suggested on Sunday.

"The problems... can be resolved by one thing, a meeting. We ask for a meeting which can resolve all the problems. We do not ask for any favours," Malema told a crowd attending the league's centenary mini-rally in Kliptown, Soweto.

Malema said this was all the league had, in its frustrated state, been asking for, but the ANC leadership "never responded positively".

"We will continue writing to them," he said.

"What makes a good leader is the ability to listen. Even if we are mad, the leadership must listen to our madness".

He cautioned the youth to exercise restraint amidst these "problems".

This follows Friday's incident where alleged ANCYL members heckled and threw chairs during President Jacob Zuma's ANC centenary address in Cape Town.


"That conduct is incorrect. No matter how frustrated you are... shouting and howling while the president of the ANC speaks is incorrect," said Malema.

As long as Zuma was still in office, he must be given the necessary respect, he said.

Malema conceded to Zuma's recent comments that no one was above the African National Congress.

"Discipline in the ANC means the ability to accept that the organisation is above you even when you are treated unfairly... even when there are frustrations," Malema said.

Malema, who was earlier introduced as a chief commander of economic freedom, was joined on stage by other youth league leaders - including his deputy Ronald Lamona, secretary general Sindiso Magaqa, league spokesperson Floyd Shivambu and Gauteng ANC chair Lebohang Maile.

Malema, Shivambu, Magaqa, Lamola, and two other officials were found guilty in November of bringing the ANC into disrepute and of sowing division in the party.

They are awaiting the outcome of arguments in mitigation and aggravation of their suspensions, which range from 18-months to five years.

  • Bob - 2012-02-26 22:55

    Malema is not in touch with reality! He is just too stupid to understand the gravity of his past actions and his subsequent suspension and he deliriously thinks he can still weed his way back in with a simple meeting!

      satanslord - 2012-02-27 09:25

      Malema is living proof that man can live without a brain,

  • Nicholas - 2012-02-26 23:20

    "Lets Talk" says he. The problem is, he talks too much.

      Jason - 2012-02-27 08:20

      Melema will now start to kiss ass...he has finally realized he has lost but its too late.

      Bob - 2012-02-27 10:01

      Nicholas, hopefully very soon they will have to talk too him during visiting hours.

      Sean - 2012-02-27 11:09

      Well, he may have to change his name to Hoover, cause nothing sucks like a hoover does

      AyGeewils - 2012-02-27 11:11

      Point is he's still wearing the headress and the tea shirt - still has the position as ancyl president and still on the podium! So many said he was gone weeks ago - seems to me the ANC is condering if life is better with him than without him!!

  • Sylvia - 2012-02-26 23:26

    Time to say "Goodbye."

      mantopam - 2012-06-11 11:16

      well come back chief

  • Henning - 2012-02-26 23:32

    You're gone boet, time to pack you're bags and find a job elsewhere, maybe some blue collar job. Perhaps you should try mining Julius!

      Stadler Van Zyl - 2012-02-27 00:24


      Johan - 2012-02-27 09:06


  • jurgen.eksteen - 2012-02-27 00:02

    Classic playground cop-out. Use to dish out crap and when it starts to fly his way, it's time out.

  • Nkosinathi - 2012-02-27 00:51

    Malema is most likely going down but the conditions under which he rose to prominence still exist and the next "Malema" will rise. Probably not to make the same silly mistakes of the incumbent but the call for economic freedom is valid. Corporates are enriching a few shareholders and the masses are landless. There is clearly a need to change the status quo albeit in an orderly manner. The longer this situation prevails the more the chances of some radical rising up democratically through election via promises to rewrite certain "undesirable" aspects of the constitution. This has happened in other countries. If the majority vote for nationalisation, land reparation etc, what will the judiciary do? Is the law as written by people greater than than the people? In the unlikely scenario of the judiciary speaking with one voice to say lets keep the law as it is today, can their voice prevail against the millions who are likely to vote for a change as a panacea to their poverty? The constitution is going to be contested leading upto and post Mangaung. All the logical about food security, economic stability will wane into significance as the poor with "nothing to lose" couldn't careless. Thats why the ANC is loathe to act against Malema for his call resonates with the poor though his motives maybe not so pro-poor.

      Kevin - 2012-02-27 07:37

      We have the rule of law so we do not revert to apartheid style government. That is why we have a constitution it is why the constitution requires a 2/3's mandate to be changed. Do you want apartheid style government such as in Zimbabwe, with all that poverty? If you nationalise land, mines and businesses without reparation, you will have no investment hence no jobs. The skilled people will leave(because they can) and productivity and employment will fall. If you invoke the Chinese model think, the Communists came to power 63 years ago, and their economic growth began 15 years ago when they liberalised their economy and encouraged foreign investment. However GDP per capita is much lower in China than it is in South Africa, and wages are lower with many fewer wokers rights. Do you want to wait 48 years for a job that pays you so badly that you have to have two jobs to survive?

      Angus - 2012-02-27 07:55

      Ag please Nkosinathi Quit the "economic freedom" crap and "masses are landless" cop-out! Economic freedom requires one to: a: pass matric well b: go study something at tertiary level or at least study a trade(electrician, plumber etc) c: Start working and move jobs every few years to gain wide experience and work your way up slowly. d: Voila, you will have a "better life" Problem is: you lot want everything for NO work. Mahala, aizikolo, zilch! With your current attitude and mindset, you and the rest of the masses will not only remain economically impoverished, but also landless and simple. Self inflicted pain my dear chap!

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-02-27 12:22

      Nkosinathi. It is not that the people is death and blind for the changes and improvements that needs to be made. The effort that must be done to help the poor. It is just Malema's way of speak, doing, behaving and honesty that makes the normal intelligent person death and blind for him and his ideas.

      Bryan - 2012-02-29 20:34

      Do you know how the problem is with the country it's you. The have not's, lazy youth who sit all day at ANC rally's wanting handout's while most black and white people go out and earn their money. It's not a race thing either which you actually want it to be. I know LOTS and I'm talking about even poor hard working black people who understand the communism you are all after. It is difficult when a small number of people are rich and majority poor. Answer to it is to uplift everyone to the middle income bracket. Not bring them ALL down to the same level besides gov. The only difference is you really do think you owed something for nothing. As Kevin says, if you want to be a communist then go for it. Skilled white and black people will piss off so quickly which most are already. You will be left with some farm land where you can slaughter all the animals from the previous farmer to eat. When they gone you can run some goats, destroy the soil and then look at your communist gov and tell them you hungry. It will take then another 50-100 years to get things right when you beg for foreign investment. By then mines would have been squandered, land destroyed and it will be stuffed. So before you talk about nationalisation, talk about what the government is doing to help when it comes to stimulating the economy, job creation, crime, corruption, education. That my friend will be the answer.

      mantopam - 2012-06-11 11:17

      rise malema rise

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      Gregory Jurgens - 2012-02-27 03:49

      Let me take a wild guess here, you passed grade 12. No offense buddy, just a observation .

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      Peter - 2012-02-27 08:55

      @ Silvana Great spot there!

      looneylani - 2012-02-27 10:07

      Stop judging by spelling, do you gain pleasure from embarrassing people? Acknowledge a good comment, as it was intended with a good heart! Stop belittling people!

  • nozukol - 2012-02-27 01:25

    He is supported by the poor and the minority of those will benefit if this economic freedom favours him. He is very dangerous!

      Bluemast - 2012-02-27 03:14

      Just shows you the power that brainwashing can do to one's followers - how idiotic can his followers be - The whole bunch of idiots!

  • Juan - 2012-02-27 02:38

    Malema always changes what he says depending on which way the wind blow. First he says that the ANCYL is seperate from the ANC and only the ANCYL can suspend it's own leaders. Now all of a sudden he says the ANC is above them. And Zuma is the president and he must be treated with respect, and just a few weeks ago he and his supporters were doing the showerman dance. "I am poor, and I am for the poor" Yeah right, I suppose owning a R16 mil mansion and then some makes you poor right. And "I am for the poor", Yes juju and after you and your buddies bancrupted the Limpopo government with illegal tenders awarded to companies you had an interest in. You stole the very money that was ment for the poor you two faced b@st@rd

  • Bluemast - 2012-02-27 02:55

    Too little - Too late Male ma you coward! By stating this publicly you have just openly admitted defeat and guilt! You moron - Go and buy a plough and keep yourself busy! Politics is not for you - Let the professionals do it :-) You have become so desperate - probably realised that you don't have asnymire ratings due to your bribery for supporters has dried up! How shameful! Take three pinks tablets now and row blue ones in the morning repeat till your conscience dries up - in other words, never!

  • Bluemast - 2012-02-27 03:10

    Come on you could get to plant lots of Noelle's in 5 years, just think of the break that the public would have with your face out of the media - South Africa will turn back to normal again and international community will regain confidence and revenue through tourism will quadruple - much needed funds to really rebuild this country with you and your cronie's continual unrest and constant disripute taken off the face of this earth causing more damage than good - you have absolutely no brains in realizing what you and your last two or so followers are doing to this country and its reputation! Your big mouth chases people away through your constant threats against the whites and you are the world's biggest hippocrate by being a racist. This country is making such an effort (all colours /creeds etc), you are the only rolling stone that still gathers moss! Us rolling stones gather no moss, but you do!

  • Gregory Jurgens - 2012-02-27 03:43

    Julius please remember where the food comes from, that you obviously love stuffing into your fat round face. Before you incite your comrades to murder innocent farmers.

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  • Jorgylyn - 2012-02-27 04:21

    Malema has ulterior motives by requesting talks with the ANC... The ANC/Jacob Zuma has one word for Malema ..."Vokof"

  • Peter - 2012-02-27 04:38


      Bluemast - 2012-02-27 07:38

      Peter' you are so correct! The media is often the cause if bloating a condition! They should just ignore him, because at the moment they are just giving him more "power" than what he deserves!

  • Roy - 2012-02-27 05:56

    When is the ANC going to take a hard decision to get rid of this "snotkop" He is mocking the ANC day by day and it would seem that the "mother-body" can do nothing because they are scared. Get rid of Malema and then disband the ANCYL.

  • Kim - 2012-02-27 06:10

    "What makes a good leader is the ability to listen" There, you said it yourself fool. You not a leader but a racist and a thief. You are done speaking and we are tired of listening to your Sh@t. Best you go pig farming.

      TheJaydedKing - 2012-02-27 11:50

      I think that's cattle farming beautiful, everything else was perfect though.

  • Kevin - 2012-02-27 06:28

    Have the NEC not got the balls to tell this fatboy twirp to take a hike

  • Johan - 2012-02-27 06:45

    'resolved though' Who types these news items?

  • raymond.kok3 - 2012-02-27 06:47

    about what should we talk i think the motherbody is scared that the likeminded in the anc will help the idiot to start his own party remember after Polokwane came the now defunct Cope so the Ratanang party might just start after Bloem or so we hope now that will be something

  • Robin - 2012-02-27 06:51

    For someone who uses his single functional brain cell as a suppository he still manages to make muffled noises. About time he pushed it in further and shut up and about time the media found something interesting to report on.

  • Larry - 2012-02-27 06:53

    Too Late Bru. On your bike son and head for the Bush.

  • Onke Tshaka - 2012-02-27 06:57

    get rid of this f#cken idiot already, Malema's a disgrace to black people..with all the investigations being done on him, South Africa would be a better place if he ended up like Jackie Silebi....they both ignorant fools

  • pws69 - 2012-02-27 07:06

    I love the smell of desperation in the morning. (with apologies to Apocalypse Now)

  • Derk - 2012-02-27 07:09

    in what year will his fate be known?

  • Henri James Christie - 2012-02-27 07:14

    Thought this idiot had been suspended, how come he is still referred to as the ancyl president??? Special laws for certain people???

  • Elle-Black - 2012-02-27 07:40

    I thought he was a tough guy,desparation does'nt suite you Juju.

  • Ashley - 2012-02-27 07:40

    "As long as Zuma was still in office, he must be given the necessary respect, he said." I get a sneaky feeling about this statement, it sounds like, he is planning Mutiny.......

  • Angus - 2012-02-27 07:49

    Julius says the mother body must just listen to their madness. Problem is: this little Hitler shoots his mouth off due to the false sense of security and massively overiflated ego, then when he is in trouble...suddenly he says he wants to talk and the ANC must listen!!! Why did he not simple "talk" from day one. Instead as a crazy, egotistical dictator type "leader" he goes on the offensive and uses the media to fight his war with the ANC(and yet the ANC and YL hate the media) The world needs less crackpots like this who have no brains but big mouths. The black youth need leaders that are both intelligent AND motivational(in a positive way)...not scumbags like these.

  • Kevin - 2012-02-27 07:50

    Some poephols never know when to shutup and go wash cars for a living

  • Matanje - 2012-02-27 07:54

    Leonard Bloch, Sir Why must Malema be Blocked? And on what basis is he a Nemesis? And if indeed a Nemesis, out to destroy which other universe? For a change I require sober arguments, please.

  • yvonnecraig.linton - 2012-02-27 07:54

    The meaning of Julius is - DOWNY HAIRED - that is soft ,pale ,fluffy .Wonder if his mother realized that ?

      Larry - 2012-02-27 08:20

      She did, but she thought that it related to his Brain.

  • Bluemast - 2012-02-27 07:55

    Mall-Ennima - If you think that you are trying to take over the role that former Madiba had, think again boy! You will never be able to fill Madiba,s shoes, so do not even try! Madiba earned his well-earned respect from the community! You are forcefully trying to earn some kind of respectfrom from your last two or so cronies lingering behind you, sorry your face will never make it on any bank note in SA, perhaps on a R's Weakly, yes!

  • Michele - 2012-02-27 07:56

    It is because of his never ending talking that fatboy is in the predicament he is. Time to shut up and face the music.

  • Lauden Kirk - 2012-02-27 08:06

    Keep your enemies closer and tell them what they want to here then strike

  • Matanje - 2012-02-27 08:10

    Mr seanpresherhughes_1 Malema is not trying to be Mandela. Nobody can be like Mandela ever. Mandela is the worst sell-out Africa can ever produce. You know it too. Even the grandeur Mandela is paraded for is stolen property from the founder of the ANC, Pixley ka Isaka Seme.

      Larry - 2012-02-27 08:23

      Matanje, Malema overstepped the mark. He embarrassed the ANC and South Africa. He ran the ANCYL as his private Army and he thought that he and only he was a king maker. He needs now to go to Jail, dont pass go and give back the money he illegally acquired from the Taxpayers of South Africa.

      Steven - 2012-02-27 09:41

      Matanje. WTF. You are a ANCYL thug who should take back that computer you have stolen. Dis respect is what the ANCYL is all about and all that just came out your mouth is dis respect for the most respected man in the world. WTF. And i suggest you have a talking to your mother for making you look stupid. you have spelt your name wrong, which i presume she taught you to spell. You dont spell it MATANJE you plonker!!!! You spell it: I D I O T !!!!!!!!!!! idiot!!!!!!!!. Your mothers probably Malema's maid innit? thats the only way she can come home and spread such stupidity amongst her sibblings. The only thing you ANCYL idiots are good for is working in our gardens, stealing computers and writing bull on the news sites. if it was not for Mandela you would not even have had this oppurtunity to steal that pc and write that bull.... I D I O T!!!!!!!!

  • Mashavha - 2012-02-27 08:23

    OMG Malema keep your Madness,Buzz off fatty

  • Barry - 2012-02-27 08:24

    The problem is in the blue corner there are a bunch of idiots. In the red corner there is a bunch of idiots. The ANC may have been "leaders" in the struggle but to now refer to them as a government is laughable. Its a position attained by default one only has to judge them by the performance to date and some of the public statements made. No education, no experience it's the blind leading the blind. The rest of the world laugh at us.

  • Kgosietsile Mpho Chipeta - 2012-02-27 08:30

    ''what makes a good leader is the ability to listen'', and think before talking or acting. he got the memo too late

  • Sharon - 2012-02-27 08:33

    This malema must be the most STUPID idiot is the whole wide world. He is the one shouting his mouth off, insulting all and sundry, making rude gestures, the "shower head", he has no respect for anyone, and now he tells his followers not to behave in this exact manor. Is this guy for real, can anyone be so stupid .

  • Andre - 2012-02-27 08:33

    Time for this idiot to get the message.

  • mongi.mekgwe - 2012-02-27 08:34

    There we go again, I am tired of this boy who does not know how those went to exile suffered for this freedom that's why he is like this.

  • Mark - 2012-02-27 08:35

    the sooner the press stop reporting on this idjiot the better for everybody. I have no idea why he is even given the airtime.

  • malcolm - 2012-02-27 08:39

    To quote the ANC spokesperson a few weeks ago. "Like an elephant, the ANC do things slowly, very slowly". Of all the things the ANC get wrong, at least they got this statement right.

  • John - 2012-02-27 08:40

    Every thing failed... and he's now resorted to begging? Its alright for the ANCYL leaders to burst into and disrupt an ANC exec. meetings, but not for their member to disrupt an address by Zuma.... go figure...

  • malcolm - 2012-02-27 08:43

    I think what Malema means is that a simple meeting with the ANC, will give him an opportunity to hand an ultimatum to the ANC leadership. Either let him get away with murder, or he will unleash a few very harmful and dangerous bits of information about the ANC and their corrupt leadership. I am sure Winnie would gladly assist with this.

  • Blane - 2012-02-27 08:44

    Too little Too late

  • Nigel - 2012-02-27 08:48

    last kicks of a dying rabid mule

  • Santapola - 2012-02-27 08:52

    What a good leader this boy is..Damn!!!he tackle issues that most leaders are afraid to...He tells as it is and i believe zuma and the rest will do us a favour to put this president where he supposed to be..rise malema rise

      Shelley - 2012-02-27 09:08

      Santapola I hope that was sarcasm because if not you are as brainwashed as his followers, you @ss!!!!

      Shelley - 2012-02-27 09:09


      Nigel - 2012-02-27 10:28

      Sounds like you don't like your job & that you are not grateful for having one (looking at your FB page), you don't have to spend the rest of your life hateing Mlungu, get another job, or start your own business, if you think that blacks are not economically empowered read this article & maybe you will change your attitude..........

      Mano-Lee - 2012-02-29 17:36

      yes... YES! Rise juju rise! Rise at 5am and wash my car! Dont be late!

  • willybegood - 2012-02-27 09:00

    so dancing like an imbecile making "shower head' like gestures when referring to your president is exercising restraint and showing respect? What a bafoon! Do as I say not as i

  • Joe - 2012-02-27 09:06

    i am re ignited with my thought of a first world country for a second citizenship now.