Media, NGOs, Khoza fear black rule: Nzimande

2012-04-13 20:05

Cape Town - The mainstream liberal media, some "liberal NGOs" and business leaders like Nedbank chairperson Reuel Khoza are part of an "ideological third force" that fear black rule, Higher Education Minister Blade Nzimande said on Friday.

Nzimande said in an opinion article on the ANC Today website that an "anti-majoritarian liberal offensive" was trying to assemble elite voices that appear to be "either neutral or authoritative" to try and discredit the ANC.

"The mainstream liberal media, some liberal NGOs, and of late business voices like Reuel Khoza, are all part of an 'ideological third force', decrying the 'threats' to our Constitution and 'lack' of leadership in the ANC and society," he said.

"It is also important that our ANC and alliance cadres embark on sustained ideological work to expose the liberal offensive for what it is - fear of black majority rule."

Khoza said last week that the country’s "strange breed" of leadership needed to adhere to the institutions that underpinned democracy.

The country's political leadership’s moral quotient was degenerating and the country was fast losing the checks and balances necessary to prevent a recurrence of the past, he said.

Ideological blackmail

Nzimande said the print media in South Africa had effectively "become part of the political opposition".

Bundles of free copies of The Star newspaper "completely ignored and left behind" at the end of the Chris Hani commemoration on Tuesday may have been an apt commentary on the standing of the print media and the attitude of "our cadres", he said.

Nzimande said all institutions supporting democracy were either "affirmed or condemned" in the media purely on the basis of whether they found positively or negatively against the ANC.

It was for these reasons that ANC members had called upon courts and chapter nine institutions "to be alive to this anti-majoritarian agenda".

"We want our courts and chapter nine institutions to do their work without fear or favour, and not to allow themselves to be used as platforms to advance party political agendas or be asked to adjudicate on matters that ordinarily belong to the electorate," the minister said.

There was, he said, "absolutely nothing wrong" in amending the Constitution if it is was required or necessary.

"The Constitution, in fact, provides rules for its own amendment. That the ANC is projected as wanting to amend the Constitution in order to undermine the Constitution is part of an ideological blackmail by this ideological third force."

  • Glyn - 2012-04-13 20:09

    The anc is the Third Force! Be stupid, think stupid, act stupid!

      Max - 2012-04-13 20:24

      No one fears black rule, we fear incompetent, intelectually challanged rulers that screw up the country.

      Nettie - 2012-04-13 20:33

      Weldone Glyn gold* LOL

      Piet - 2012-04-13 20:34

      The only force science can not explain, dark matter. we fear the incompetence and the arogance that these so called cadres display. it is a third force? wtf is a third force? is this the dark matter science is looking for?

      vermeulenwa - 2012-04-13 20:45

      @Max. I agree...why are we still talking about "Black Rule" or "White Rule" Let's rather talk about competent, accountable, transparent "rule". Am I right? Mr. Nzimande has a chip on his shoulders if you ask me.

      vermeulenwa - 2012-04-13 20:47

      BTW...who's/what's the SECOND force...I missed that one!

      Claudia - 2012-04-13 20:54

      I left SA over four years ago, for the USA - New York specifically. I keep track of happenings in SA as my parents are still in SA and I visit them from time to time (apart from some other business obligations/connections I still have in SA). Reading this article, it is now abundantly clear, I am one of the (very) lucky ones to have made it out of SA (in time). The comments of the minister, regarding the ANC's brazen disregard for your constitution, must surely be the one of the darkest moments in the entire history of SA. The ANC will surely destroy your country and more - they will not stop until it is beyond places like Zimbabwe. The minister obviously cannot grasp the magnitude of the damage, comments like the one's given in this article, will bestow upon the entire SA. The financial world is already spooked by talks of nationalization and the ANC's overall inability to govern SA - hence the reason all the major rating agencies have downgraded SA. I am involved with investments in emerging markets (another reason to surf SA's news sites - the best source of bona fide info re a country) and I can assure you, the remarks of your minister was met with notable trepidation, among my colleagues. I am currently doing everything I can to convince my parents to move out of SA asap. If you value a future for your family and you are still living in SA - I sincerely urge you to leave asap. My God be with you.

      Jessica - 2012-04-13 21:06

      Or I came I saw and I plunder the country

      spartanx93 - 2012-04-13 21:08

      @Max - you took the words right out of my mouth.

      wesleywt - 2012-04-13 21:09

      Utter rubbish Claudia. The same crap happens in the US.

      wesleywt - 2012-04-13 21:25

      Claudia also try and get sick over there without health insurance. Or read about the 68 year old man who was shot by police because accidentally set off his medical alert. They tazered the heart patient, taunting he about his service in the marines and then shot him. Then lied that he had a knife. Also look up NDAA that allows the government to hold you without trial forever. Since you are a foreigner look up the Patriot Act. They can send you to Gitmo without any reason. Good luck. Hope you find a job as well.

      celeste.rsa - 2012-04-13 21:42

      wesley, are you trying to convince yourself how "idyllic" life is here??

      mike.clery - 2012-04-13 21:43

      @wesleywt -

      Irene - 2012-04-13 21:44

      @Max ~ Spot on! @Claudia ~ Let's hope your parents stay safe and good luck to you. @wesleywt ~ Sounds to me like you've never ever left SA? Not a flipping clue!

      celeste.rsa - 2012-04-13 21:56

      wesley, I'd rather be depressed in NZ than dead in SA - just saying.

      Godfrey - 2012-04-13 23:05

      @Wesleywt you are reacting just like Zanu-FP supporters, look at Zim now.

      mundu.olewega - 2012-04-14 04:19

      The ANC does pretty well at discrediting themselves without help from anyone else.

      Sizwe - 2012-04-14 14:00

      Stop being stupid or go back where u belong we r tired of third forces like yourself.....

      maseratifittipaldi - 2012-04-14 15:38

      Jessica : The correct quote (Julius's Boss) is : I came, I showered and I plundered. or in the case of the great Julius himself : I plane, I saw and I blundered.

  • Glyn - 2012-04-13 20:11

    Viva Khoza! A free thinker! A man who stands on his own two feet!

      Ben - 2012-04-13 20:40

      Yes, surely he is not the one threatening the constitution.

      Jacqui - 2012-04-14 11:18

      Alicia, yeah same here, I respect that man for speaking the truth.

      Walker - 2012-04-25 23:53

      you said it correctly, khoza is a free thinker and definately not an independent one he is just being emotional and ubsurd in his thinking, perhaps you need to understand that liberals like him still maintain that only the educated black elite and white people can shape the future of this country and easily and freely forget that only the will of the people(majority) decides, the present government is not in power because of the wiil of minority like him. shame on you khoza for uttering such statements, it is shortsighted form of stereotypical thinking..

  • Tc - 2012-04-13 20:13

    We all know that Blade Nzimande is a liar. He represents the ANC plunderers and cannot be trusted or believed. Take his insulting comments in that light.

      Alf - 2012-04-13 20:30

      Not only a liar but also the spiritual leader of the ANC - always full of spirits, mainly Johnny Walker blue label with apple juice. Has he forgotten the times when he staggered around at SACP gatherings handing out tips (50 and 100 Rand notes)to staff at a certain venue? He should shut up and take a few of his jobless supporters into his home to feed them. Remember bra Blade. under communism everybody shares with everybody!

      Oscar - 2012-04-14 05:39

      Just imagine how confused this poor shyte Nzimande must be with all these anti-majoritarian liberal offensive ideological attacks from third and second forces and cadres that embark on sustained ideological work to expose the liberal offensive which is trying to assemble elite voices....Now I ask you with tears in my eyes, what does the average South African with English as their third language, make of this communist jargon shyte that this little prick is spewing in public.

      Andrew - 2012-04-14 08:47

      Remember this is the minister of higher education, it is no wonder the standard of learning in this country is so poor.Looking for spooks behind every door and in all closets.

      Jacqui - 2012-04-14 11:20

      Tc, yes and while we were in the snow protesting he was warm and cosy in Russia.

  • tobydt - 2012-04-13 20:18

    Blade is a knob.

      spartanx93 - 2012-04-13 21:10

      Who even names their kid blade.

      Irene - 2012-04-13 21:45

      It beats Wiseman, or Foreman or Doktor. LOL!

      Jacqui - 2012-04-14 11:22

      Irene I know a Doctor and he is a really nice man. Probably wish his parents gave him a better namen though.

  • Michele - 2012-04-13 20:26

    Once again the race card is used, old tactics Blade, we see right through you.

  • Schalk - 2012-04-13 20:28

    Its not that we fear Black Majority Rule. Its the inability of the Black Majority to rule the country efficiently. They're corrupt and a bunch of thieves. We simply exchanged a dishonest Nationalist Party government with a dishonest ANC government. Come on Blade, as a commited communist you're supposed to espouse the drivel you're talking about

  • Crracker - 2012-04-13 20:28

    Race card! LOL Nobody takes him seriously.

  • Thenga - 2012-04-13 20:33

    Anc wants 2 change the constitution not in the public interest but to fulfill its own agenda 2 rule everything in this country coz they dont know how 2 separate a party from the state, shame on u, mr blade, the hypocrite! Sis

      Pule - 2012-04-13 20:48

      Thenga,you don't even suppose to call him Mr,he's just a piece of little trash with a big mouth and empty promises.

      Luviwe - 2012-04-13 21:19

      So true Tenga and along the way undermining our intelligence. The more often you repeat the lie becomes true. Well received lecture from the Nazis.

  • Lacrimose - 2012-04-13 20:34

    So nothing has changed. The NP ruled for 40-years based on fear, now this is the only card the ANC has left to play. Honourable Minister of Education - it seems your education is lacking. I put it to you, sir, that the only thing all the people of SA want to see is an end to fear; fear of being inadequately educated, fear of being homeless, fear of being unemployed, of murderers, drivers, poisoned water and toxic air, fear of our taxes being used for frivolities instead of what the nation needs. Fear is all you seem to be able to accomplish. All citizens should be very afraid of a government that has so completely run out of ideas.

  • celeste.rsa - 2012-04-13 20:34

    "Bundles of free copies of The Star newspaper "completely ignored and left behind" at the end of the Chris Hani commemoration on Tuesday may have been an apt commentary on the standing of the print media and the attitude of "our cadres", he said." Nah, I think the problem is that most cadres can't read thanks to our wonderful education system.

  • Pule - 2012-04-13 20:41

    Nzimande your department attained fail audit,my question is how?College student get question papers before examination in Engineering easily because your department is selling them for R1000 a subject.You really full of corruption,fraud but you talking about Black fear,I suggest you go to hell Shoboro ke wena.

      Victor - 2012-04-13 22:21

      You are spot on blade.

  • maseratifittipaldi - 2012-04-13 20:41

    Dis be de minster of hire educashin? Haw mash?

  • patrick.saunders123 - 2012-04-13 20:51

    no blade. What they don't like is anc rule. It probably has to do with all the corruption, nepotism, cronyism, incompetence and outright criminality. Just a guess.

  • Julian - 2012-04-13 20:52

    Blade start thinking for yourself and stop being a sycophant , incompetence and corruption which has been flushed on our Public Administration by Shell House and the NEC, is probably the biggest threat to our democracy. Just because the comment causes embarrassment to the “Party” does not mean that the parties are racist or part of a third force . It is your answers that are an embarrassment

      Jacqui - 2012-04-14 11:26

      Don't forget, Blades, biggest act of heroism was burning down a library. Now he is Minister of Higher education. Boy there must be a joke in there somewhere.

  • Mark - 2012-04-13 21:01

    All the ANC have these days is the race card. They overuse it so much, its like an admission of guilt.

  • Morama - 2012-04-13 21:06

    Bundles of free copies of The Star newspaper "completely ignored and left behind" at the end of the Chris Hani commemoration on Tuesday may have been an apt commentary on the standing of the print media and the attitude of "our cadres", ... OK ndzimande,tell us how many people has he killed in Exile especially in "ANC Camp Quadro".Or approach the star and tell them about that so that those that doesnt know who the rfeal Chris Hani is can now.

  • Luviwe - 2012-04-13 21:07

    Very rich from the Blunt Blade as you are doing what I would call Political blackmail by race.

  • Luviwe - 2012-04-13 21:09

    How much of a crime in the ANC dividing the country along racial lines. I think he needs to be called into order.

  • Annette - 2012-04-13 21:15

    No damn wonder this "minister of higher education" is actually more disliked than JuJu. May I also ask a silly question? How come a communist is in charge of such a neglected instistution as education when eighty percent of society is Christian?....placed by john V.

  • farmfreund - 2012-04-13 21:16

    Is Africa not proof of Black Rule, Zim , Kongo , Malawi,.................

      Luviwe - 2012-04-13 21:30

      Is there no success in Africa? Let us not fall on the trap of the ANC and be racist in these forums. The racism that is being potrayed here makes me scarry of changing the voting paterns of many people who visit these forums. Let us try with all we can and face the issue without perceived to be racists from all racial groups and promote humanity for the benefit of SA of which we claim to love so much.

  • lydonmcg - 2012-04-13 21:18

    I find it hilarious that these people actually believe their own bull! Hahaha

  • David - 2012-04-13 21:20

    When you are intellectually bankrupt always play the race card--I pity Nzimande and his comrades.

  • sandy.langenstrass - 2012-04-13 21:21

    The ANC have always had a thing about the third the apartheid area the ANC blamed the third force....WHO is this THIRD FORCE. I think it's a phrase they harp on when they are unable to pin point a problem...or shuttle around an issue....'NO IT'S THE THIRD FORCE"..EISH... Can someone tell me who is the third force?. I don't think the Anc know who it is either..stupid phrase,it shows their illiterate status....give the damn thing a name.

      Jacqui - 2012-04-14 11:28

      The third force is a figment of the ANC's imagination.

  • thapelo.devotion.mothibi - 2012-04-13 21:21

    I always thought it was not communism but as you have said \black rule\ haaa haaa who's a joke now fake bolshie?

  • Colleen - 2012-04-13 21:24

    Blade ask yourself if our education in this country is as good as your education was you had in Russia? Blade you are bringing race into this argument, MR Khoza was speaking about the people who are running the goverment not the colour of their skin. As for a third force please stop seeing ghosts (if you believe in that crap) in every other corner, things are going pear shape in this country of ours and you are accusing the minority once again. How sad, wake up and look towards yourself and your comrades and see how not so innocent they are.

  • Gregory - 2012-04-13 21:26

    It's not black rule they fear. It's incompetent corrupt rule they fear. Please stop blaming government incompetence and corruption on a third force. either you are blind , senile or have your hands in the cookie jar.

  • Rudzani Maringa - 2012-04-13 21:31

    Blade, u r extraordinarily arrogant! The dictator is unleashing is bulldogs to exterminate the brave mr khoza, the only hyena left to join the feeding frenzy is the propagandist in chief jeff radebe. This is getting pathetic, mangaung liberate us from this kleptocracy .

  • Sharon - 2012-04-13 21:33

    You simply need to look at how many educated black people have ALLREADY left this country. They know what is coming. They are not as blind as the rest of us who believe things will be better. I have a very good black friend, originally from Soweto, of 20 years that says she will not invest a cent in this country. She stays in New York and sworn to never return. And she is not alone.

      Luviwe - 2012-04-13 21:48

      Let her enjoy those quakes. We love this country, we will stick it out.

  • michael.e.bowery - 2012-04-13 21:33

    Blade Nzimande should wake up to the real world about him, or indulge in the truth. We already have black majority rule. It is increasingly obvious that what is desired by our black political elite is a one party dictatorship. The fear by some of the slightly lesser black elite, is that this will be the usual black dictatorship, which destroys all forms of argument or dissent until violently overthrown. The rhapsody then begins again, replaced by yet another black dictator. The fate of Africa and Africans is so predictable, any B film maker could write the Script and have a winner. Spookoctopus

  • Phori Curtis Maelane - 2012-04-13 21:36

    The likes of Blade who think that their elected positions has earned them a right to blanket this country with foolish philosophy and stupid doctrine without having to check the reality on ground level... makes me sick.

  • Rory Neil Price - 2012-04-13 21:38

    No you thick twat, there are thousands of black intellectuals that think the same, it is just a pity they not in Government

  • ChrisKhanye - 2012-04-13 22:02

    Blade, I fear: Institutionalized corruption e.g. tenders, cadre-deployment etc. which have transformed a once glorious Movement into ANC (Pty) Ltd to benefit a few questionable politicians and their families. Corruption which has robbed whole communities basic service delivery and the much touted better life. Corruption that has deprived our kids proper institutions of learning in most rural areas. Just like apartheid: Institutionalized corruption of ANC (Pty) Ltd seeks to marginalize predominantly Africans and put them where apartheid failed - their Place. Apartheid and ANC (Pty) Ltd corruption designed to relegate mostly Africans to abject poverty. Then apartheid and now ANC (Pty) Ltd with its Info Bill seek to hide from their voting fodder the true state of the nation. Nzimande - your communist tendencies seeks to relegate whole communities to homogeneous political stupor and conformity. When patriots like Khoza and me comment - it's not because we're Black Liberals wary of Black majority rule. We're wary of questionable Black politicians with a tendency to dip their filthy black fingers in State coffers to indulge themselves and their families. We're wary of questionable Black politicians who have turned the Greatest Movement of our People into ANC (Pty) Ltd. And now seek to change the rules of the game to hide their excesses. I'm a Patriotic South African and my mission is totally eradicate the Third Force. Better Life for a Few - ANC(Pty) Ltd.

      Dominic - 2012-04-14 01:28

      @chrisKhanye. Bra I hear you're sentiments. I wish there were more of ya cos this country needs guys like you to stand up for areas in which our current govt is failing us.

      Brandon - 2012-04-14 08:32

      Well articulated Chris - I could not have said it better even if I wanted to. I copied your comment onto my facebook page so as to spread your comment to my contacts. I believe your and the likes of Dr. Khoza's comments needs to be spread far and wide.

  • Ronald - 2012-04-13 22:02

    We do fear black rule, but welcome good black governance. Blade Nzimande and his like are the most paranoid bunch of people I have ever come across, seeing third forces around every corner to explain their inferiority complexes and lack of ability to run a country, except into the ground. How long before he would like rugby scrums banned for fear of them plotting against him?

  • Rob - 2012-04-13 22:05

    "Opinion article on the ANC Today"?????? You mean propaganda article. If it were there to benefit it's audience it would provide a platform for people to discuss the article / facts / opinions portrayed. ANC today is nothing but an attempt at low level brainwashing. Viva stupid!

  • aiazmir - 2012-04-13 22:16

    Mr Nzimande is a very confused politician. His views of "anti-majoritarian" (where did he come up with this word) are a clear indication of his ineptitude. "It is also important that our ANC and alliance cadres embark on sustained ideological work to expose the liberal offensive for what it is - fear of black majority rule." The ordinary people do not fear black majority rule, they fear a black proletariat, that has patently appeared. Your reaction is a clear indication that you neither understand the feelings and views of the poor, and that you feel you are entitled to their respect without earning their respect. You Mr Nzimande and the ANC are a fraud.

  • aiazmir - 2012-04-13 22:31

    Mr Nzimande, have you been unaware that there has been black rule in South Africa since 1994. Did you see "knees knocking" and a fear reaction. No. What we fear now is an ANC government that is out of control. A government that treads on its opponents, like a bunch of fascists. How low has the ANC stooped since 1994. Now the ANC takes criticism and uses the race card to attack its critics. Well guess what? The poor, yes your voters are also gatvol of your clever rhetoric. They want delivery and they can't get it. Guess why? You have robbed them of their legacy. I must make this clear, the ANC have robbed the poor of their entitlement. The promise of entitlement that was evident in 1994 and which the majority agreed, was stolen from the poor by the ANC fat cats.

  • Jim - 2012-04-13 22:50

    The reality is that the ANC / COSATU / SACP are suddenly realising that "they" are NOT united and that the people they think support them (the electorate) are rapidly becoming aware of their inability to deliver on "promises" - many "promises" and little delivery. Hopefully the "electorate" who decide on who will govern the country will wake up before 2014 and decide who they want to run the country into the future

  • Godfrey - 2012-04-13 23:21

    @Wesleywt Leaders need to be held accountable regardless of colour. I still find it difficult that most ANC and their alliance leaders make race/colour statemnents.

  • Mashilo - 2012-04-13 23:29

    @ Blade 'Phuza-face' Nzimande, we are more concerned about corruption, e-lotto/tolls and quality education than the president's skin colour.

  • Vince.York - 2012-04-14 03:44

    NOBODY WANTS TO BE RULED o'stupid Nzimande! You job is to act as a civil servant and govern - NOT TO RULE

      Sewela Marcia Rapudubudu - 2012-04-14 07:21

      Exactly vince

  • Lincoln - 2012-04-14 05:07

    Mr Khoza has hit a nerve definate;y and i am proud of him. It is Blade style to come up with conspiracy theories of this nature and this is meant at putting pressure at the people it is directed to. Unfortunately this is not pre Polokwane people are aware what is going on. The media everywhere in the world have sought to expose scandalous stories and this is how it is defined. To expert that the media reports in a friendly manner is asking all of us to be zoombies. Please Mr Nzimande respect us.

  • Gorge - 2012-04-14 06:00

    "black majority rule?" we are in the 21st century now blade my "boy?". The term "rule" comes from a very ancient savage/tribal/bushveld mentality, when the men sat around a campfire drinking beer, while the women worked the fields?. We now have roads,hospitals, schools, public infrastructure,universities etc. that need "administration" not "rule". Pity the majority and the "anc administrators" are still stuck in the hunter/gatherer mentality of 400 years ago?. Start "administering" and stop thinking that you "rule?"...ntati?

  • sewsexy - 2012-04-14 07:16

    Blame, blame, blame - now it is this "third force" trying to discredit the ANC - the ANC dont need help with that - they are doing an excellent job for themselves !!! The only thing they do REALLY WELL !!!!

  • Johan - 2012-04-14 07:52

    Hit a sore spot did he?

  • bluzulu - 2012-04-14 08:01

    On point Mr. Nzimande. 1000% correct in your statement.

  • Mark - 2012-04-14 08:13

    I have news for comrade Blade, nobody need to discredit the ANC - they do it all by themselves. Nobody fears black rule but all intelligent people fear misrule, by anybody.

  • Tony - 2012-04-14 08:27

    F?!k my dog! First the ANC called the whites racist, now they are complaining that blacks are racist ( I assume Mr. Khoza is melanin gifted), and as for those trying to discredit the ANC, ( not that the ANC aren't doing a good job of discrediting themselves ....),well Blunt Blade, that's is called the opposition... It happens in a democracy, ya know that ting u talk about but dat u don't like!,,

  • tomislav.svorinic - 2012-04-14 09:25

    @ Claudia .... you are naive if you think everything is rosy in the USA. The USA is not a sovereign country - it is a corporation that is run by the Corporates, namely the Federal Reserve. Run by the Corporates with no concern for the US Constitution. I do not agree with what the ANC is doing in SA - they have proved themselves to be totally incompetent but please do not point fingers at SA thinking that the US is any better. Your new-found home is run by a criminal cabal. Do the research!

  • Ester - 2012-04-14 09:42

    Nzimande,you look very stupid.Are you as stupid as you look???? please let us know

      zetzingane - 2012-04-14 10:25

      he is Dr nzimande ,did you pass your matric

      Sharon - 2012-04-14 12:39

      @ zetzingane - wernt some of you chaps also calling malema DR?

  • cleopas68 - 2012-04-14 10:16

    blade...the blunt one