MEC warns against corporal punishment

2012-06-05 19:09

Durban - KwaZulu-Natal education MEC Senzo Mchunu warned teachers that they could lose their jobs if they used corporal punishment to discipline pupils.

"We would like to send a stern warning against those among us who still practice corporal punishment.

As a department we view it as serious defiance, a serious offence that can lead to the termination of employment," MEC Senzo Mchunu said on Tuesday.

He said if there were financial implications, teachers who were found guilty would have to reimburse the department.

Mchunu lost an appeal against a man who suffered an eye injury at Gcwalulwazi High School near Eshowe nine years ago, the Witness online reported on Tuesday.

The Supreme Court of Appeal rejected Mchunu's appeal with costs on Friday.

Simphiwe Shange, aged 15 at the time, was hit in the eye by a belt buckle while the deputy principal allegedly hit another pupil with the belt.

Shange was told his injury was "a mistake" and accepted this for three years until he was encouraged to contact the public protector.

The court noted that adults had failed Shange and that there was a strong case for him to proceed with legal action against Mchunu.

"We respect the court ruling and we do not intend to challenge it," Mchunu said.

  • crracker.crackerr - 2012-06-05 19:27

    Just convert all schools into voluntarily learning centres. You are allowed to attend at your leisure. If you don't like it stay away. You as a learner will be required to submit homework periodically and write exams assessed by anonymous examiners. Nobody should concern themselves with your failures to pass or attend the voluntary learning centres. If you wish to fail go right ahead. Who should care? It is up to you what you have in mind. But don't influence others and destroy their futures. This applies also to so-called TEACHERS. We are heading for disaster. If you fail you fail. What crap is this that learners must be begged to perform and not to disrupt others' academic pursuits? Perhaps make rubbish dependence (collection of rubbish out of black bags and rubbish dumps) a subject too. What is going on in this country? We still await the trade unions to start creating those jobs they always tell us the employers do not create.

      Alf - 2012-06-05 19:35

      Maybe we should apply corporal punishment differently - by meting it out to non-performing MEC's, government ministers and deputies and corrput officials! Just a thought.

  • Kholofelo - 2012-06-05 19:32

    The acknowledgement of illegality of corporal punishment must be pervasive,especially in rural areas,because learners have inherited the fear of teachers from their parents,and mostly they dont know their rights,again parents encourage teachers to hit their children because they grew so.Limpopo,KZN and MP corporal punishment it is still being practiced.This must be eradicated.

      Stewart Croucamp - 2012-06-05 19:41

      I disagree. Human rights institutions are destroying our youth. We are building a nation of ill disciplined youth.

      crracker.crackerr - 2012-06-05 19:45

      Of course you are entitled not to be hit. But then you also have the obligation to bring your side and to improve yourself. Difficult as it may be in some deplorable circumstances, the latter the result of powers that are. Thank heavens for not being a teacher. Thoughts of murder must be prevalent among many teachers. Let the country create an harmonious relationship between teacher and pupil. As follows. If you do not wish to be a dutiful teacher or learner then FO. Rather make the schools voluntary learning centres (as suggested above) and allow real freedom of choice.

      hennie.horne - 2012-06-05 21:30

      What a load of BS.... Do u actually believe this crap u wrote???

      carpejugulim - 2012-06-06 05:37

      Sure thing Superherodad ... by focusing on the rights without teaching that with rights come responsibilities we sit with the problem that we have today, an entire generation in the exercising of their rights forgets that others have rights too. We have an entire generation that is totally lacking in selfrespect and selfdiscipline

  • icarus.smith.90 - 2012-06-05 19:33

    The youth need discipline, ...

      crracker.crackerr - 2012-06-05 19:46

      Too late.

  • Stewart Croucamp - 2012-06-05 19:38

    I taught for two years. I will not teach those little monsters. There are many that deserve a bloody good hiding. There is no other way to instill discipline. Bring back corporal punishment.

      Nicholas - 2012-06-05 20:06

      hear hear!

  • Eric - 2012-06-05 19:40

    I am not supporting corporal punishment, but i will lyk 2 know,how can u dicipline a very rude student.

      hc12345 - 2012-06-05 19:51

      The same way we were taught. If you did not respect your teacher, did not do your homework, or skipped school... straight to the principle for a good hiding. This helped us to respect authority and achieve at school. 30% was not good enough. If I am wrong the shoot me, I think what is going on in our schools prove that the humanistic measures are not working.

      Nicholas - 2012-06-05 20:08

      They never worked in America, they never worked in the UK, so we and go an copy them and surprise surprise? it doesn't work here either!

  • Jabulani Thema - 2012-06-05 20:34

    I am what I am today not because of corporal punishment, but because of hard work and guidance from my former selfless teachers. I detest it and will never recommend it

  • Gerald Jordaan - 2012-06-05 20:35

    Spare the rod spoil the child!! Bring back both corporal and capital punishment!!

      emilemyburgh - 2012-06-05 21:16

      Capital punishment for children too? Would you really entrust the death penalty to our current government?

  • Gerda Malherbe - 2012-06-05 20:44

    Give us a good alternative to discipline rude learners, Mr So Wise MEC.

      Lizette - 2012-06-05 21:00

      I suggest it be discussed with the parents. If it does not change, 2 warnings

      luckyz.matyolo - 2012-06-05 21:08

      Are you trying to oppose mec views?

  • Lizette - 2012-06-05 20:53

    The fact that 80% of our current youth are Juvenile delinquents, is directly linked to the banning of corporal punishment

      emilemyburgh - 2012-06-05 21:12

      Really? Where did you get that statistic from? A scientific study?

  • emilemyburgh - 2012-06-05 20:54

    Two questions to all proponents of corporal punishment: 1. What message does it convey to children when we as adults try to solve problems with violence? Corporal punishment is violence. 2. Can one really assume that all teachers will know how to mete out corporal punishment fairly (if one can use that word in the context of corporal punishment)? Punishment is a prerogative of parents, not of teachers. If you don't teach your child to behave at home, how will he/she behave at school. It is up to parents to teach their children that misbehaving at school, down the line, results in pathetic job prospects.

  • Lynda - 2012-06-05 20:59

    How can anyone believe that hurting another person either physically or mentally can be a good thing........maybe it worked in the olden days but did it really make us better people? I don't think so!

      hennie.horne - 2012-06-05 21:19

      Lynda dont be naive. Hw old r u? Discipline = respect 4 oneself and then others. The very basis of ones personality and non existent in our society. No respect for others = lawlessness. U can dress this one up anyway u like bt its the very core of our criminal society

      Vanesse Payn - 2013-08-20 12:47

      Just a thought - look at the respect a 46 year old has for their elders and compare its to the respect a 26 year old has for the elders - there is a VAAAAAAST difference and that is all due to discipline - a smack on the bottom never harmed anyone

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  • Lauden Kirk - 2012-06-06 00:51

    I got jacks. And why not. Children are losing respect for themselves and the elders.

  • mbali.shange2 - 2012-06-09 16:36

    I'm happy to see that something is happening with Mr Shange's case .i had a nearly same problem from my previous school at eshowe ,my principal kicked me out at school because i was absent at school, i went back looking for any report just to prove that i did matric even though i didnt finish ,only to find that they dont have anything with my name on their registers right now im im stucked with no matric ,i wish i could be helped too

  • Waseem Khan - 2013-07-28 15:30

    The MEC has been saying this for far too long. Schools have to enforce this circular through regular workshops. I am currently engaged in a legal case with my child's teacher. I am from Durban.I opened the case on the 12 April 2013 and it was only when I threatened the local police detectives with me proceeding to the provincial commissioners office that they gave me feedback. They now want me to meet with the teacher and come to some compromise. My child is now showing signs of fear at night and does not want to go to court. Why should i have to meet with this teacher and reach a compromise, shouldn't the dept be stepping in to take measures against this teacher....i don't even know if the school Principal has informed the Education Department regarding this matter. The teacher denies the charges , yet the medical report (J88) by the district surgeon indicates otherwise.I am now going to engage the services of an attorney to file libel against the Dept of Education as well as the female educator involved. My son was only 6 years at the time of the incident. So well done to the MEC for bringing to the fore the problem of corporal punishment that still exists within our schools....institutions that are meant to protect and care for our children in our absence.

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