MKMVA just seeking attention - ANCYL

2012-04-03 14:23

Johannesburg - The Umkhonto we Sizwe Military Veterans Association (MKMVA) is just seeking attention by commenting on ANC Youth League leader Julius Malema, youth league secretary general Sindiso Magaqa said on Tuesday.

"They just want to show their girlfriend that today they will be on TV," Magaqa told reporters in Johannesburg.

"We find it very strange that the MKMVA released the statement. We believe this is not the statement of the collective but of an individual," he said.

Magaqa was addressing the media immediately after MKMVA held a press briefing at the ANC headquarters, Luthuli House.

Expel Malema - MKMVA

Earlier, MKMVA chairperson Kebby Maphatsoe called on the ANC's national executive committee to expel Malema summarily.

"Julius Malema thinks he is bigger than the ANC," said Maphatsoe.

"He has fed on the media frenzy against the liberation movement, casting doubt and aspersions on the ability of the ANC to formulate policies and govern South Africa in favour of all its citizens."

Magaqa said the MKMVA's statement had no content.

"We are dealing with people who do not have an understanding of ANC processes."

Magaqa referred to some members of the MKMVA as being "sell-outs", not veterans.

"They have a bad history... I won't go any further with that," he said when asked what he meant by sell-outs.

"Not everyone was a soldier of MK, some were cooks."

Magaqa said the disciplinary process was still ongoing and that Malema was still the ANC Youth League's leader.

"We are more determined than ever that we have an elected president until 2014," he said.

"Nothing has changed."

  • Junebugg - 2012-04-03 14:31

    Lmao "They just want to show their girlfriend that today they will be on TV," ------------------------------------------------ Comment of the week

      Marion - 2012-04-03 14:34

      The maturity level of, and reasoning behind, comments made by the ANCYL leaves a lot to be desired. The intellectual ability of a gnat comes to mind.

      Bambanani - 2012-04-03 14:59

      magaqa must relax its a done deal malema is history.the ancyl can make noise,malema speech at wits was a kick of dying horse.

      Collen - 2012-04-03 15:08

      Sindiso is the KING and that is why i like that comment

      Den - 2012-04-03 15:32

      yip, they all share her, her names winnie

  • Phumi - 2012-04-03 14:35

    Just because some were marshals in rallies does not necissarily make them Military Veterans. Apart from being a financial burden to the ANC, we will forever question the role played by MKVA in mordern day democracy? As Magaqa said not everyone on the MKVA was a soldier and some of those in leadership their rise to prominance are questionable. The day the start taking desciplinary action against their thugs who threaten to kill our leaders will be the day we will start taking them seriously! If MKVA wants to be a stumbling block to our quest for economic freedom and land they must just say so. We are not afraid of laying down our own blood as well to defend our leaders even if it means fighting our very own!

      Vicky - 2012-04-03 14:52

      Sit down and shut up before you hurt yourself you bloody Tool! You are yet another example of how the youth of today have no manners, respect or brains

      Azande - 2012-04-03 14:53

      Hello Phumi, Thanks for your above thought-through input. if i may ask, 1. is there anything wrong with MKMVA expressing their feeling about Malema's case? 2. do you really think Magaqa's comments written in this article are worth to be applauded? If yes, which part of his comments? 3. how old are you? kind regards Aza

      Thando - 2012-04-03 14:58

      If u dont knw wht being a disciplined membr of ths revolution u will utter such grovel as my SG has done. Cooks or not......thy entered ths struggle witout promises of tenders, shareholdngs, ministerial perks instead th promise of jail, torture nd death. U shud really undrstand revolutionary discipline chief.

      Sboniswa - 2012-04-03 15:03

      Phumi, you are an idiot like your heroes, we won't sit down and let these uneducated, barbaric youth destroys this country. No wonder your boss (Malema) is scared of KZN, we the Zulus want to destroy him...go and live with your boss in Zimpopo, stupid

      llmapuma - 2012-04-03 15:26

      "We are not afraid of laying down our own blood" Dude NOONE IS WILLING TO DO THAT NONESENSE. Its 2012 there are far better ways to resolve conflict. People are smarter and more innovative. PS: You don't wanna get into the subject of finacial burdans with the ANC. Everyday we read about mismanagement of funds by elect government offecials.

      Den - 2012-04-03 15:35

      the stumbling block to your freedom is the corrution of your leaders like julias, but we all know thats to much for you to understand

      Lincoln - 2012-04-04 02:12

      Phumi do not worry about these undemocratic people who are hypocites. This is an opinion place, so go ahead don't be intimidated. Malema is right if these people who are attacking you are right also there is a democracy and we will expel anyone who says there isn't. People have become intolerable of other people's opinion and just like JZ & GM they will attack you in this fashion. Azande yes there is something wrong you idiot in MKMVA raising it's opinion whilst the disciplinary process is iongoing. Azande all the comments by Magaqa should be applauded looks like you are holding a gun to Phumi's head, what kind of question is that "how old are you?" Are you working for the old apartheid branch you ninkampup Stop being undemocratic

  • Lyndatjie - 2012-04-03 14:38

    These children are now blatantly showing just what they think of their elders. They are insulting and disrespectful! How on earth can the Secretary of the ANCYL say something like this about those who fought for the very freedom that these kids are now professing to be fighting for as well. Shame on you! These men and women have the battle scars to show for their sacrifices - all the children have is insolence and cheek! I hope their parents finally step in to give them a backhand like mine would have done if I ever DARED to speak with such disdain to my elders.

  • Azande - 2012-04-03 14:38

    Magaqa must be expelled as well, ill disciplined IDIOT. How the hell does a small boy like him make a comment about older people that way. They just want to show their girlfriend that today they will be on TV," youth league is dead.

      Collen - 2012-04-03 14:53


      Azande - 2012-04-03 14:56

      @Collen, something you need me to elaborate on?

      Sboniswa - 2012-04-03 15:05

      i'm with you Azande, this ugly moron Magaqa is trying to seek publicity like his boss. they are all the lapdogs of Malema...this ugly boy, who does he think he is...skinny skeletal Magaqa

      Bambanani - 2012-04-03 15:08

      thats what the ancyl does telling their girlfriends that they will be in government.

      Mark - 2012-04-03 15:25

      @Phumi- you cannot expect respect if you don't grant one. MLM (new name) has been undermined by the mother body. Yes, he said things that were wrong and he needed to be reprimanded but not expelled. There are many people who do more than he but are not punished. So, if you are angry with YL on the basis of respect, then you have no case my friend.

      Lincoln - 2012-04-04 02:14

      Youth league lives on respect the disciplinary process of the ANC

  • Shirley - 2012-04-03 14:43

    Is this the youth league or the ebmryo league?? With comments like the-"want to be on tv to impress girlfriend" it sounds like the latter!I dont know why the newspapers even publish any ancyl comments,they are all illusions of grandeur,unfactual and useless!

      Collen - 2012-04-03 14:53

      You seem to have nothing to say but commenting because others do. What is your point idiot?

      Shirley - 2012-04-03 14:59

      Collen: Go troll with ignorant little boy!

      Collen - 2012-04-03 15:06

      You don't even vote but you comment on someone elected unopposed, you are a excellent fool. number one idiot.

      Shirley - 2012-04-03 15:13

      Collen: I will not reply to your trolling efforts again! F.Y.I. What I do,when I do it s NONE of your buisiness! TOOL!!!!!!!

      Mark - 2012-04-03 15:27

      @Shirley shut up fool. Collen is right

      Irene - 2012-04-03 17:21

      @Shirley ~ Your comments are spot on, as usual. @Collen and Mark ~ Absolute imbeciles. Did your mothers drop you on your head?

  • ludlowdj - 2012-04-03 14:48

    I hope the MK members take note, this is what you get for fighting for the ANC, feel like idiots don't you? the ANC structure has no further use for you and has thrown you to the curb. I hope this is what you fought for.

  • Collen - 2012-04-03 14:50

    Tell them SG. Outgoing president zuma must discipline them too, or else that will be the fifth factor to destroy him.

      Jason - 2012-04-03 15:06

      must be the hidden forces they are talking about.

      Sboniswa - 2012-04-03 15:07

      Collen, you stupid as your father, go to Zimpopo and lick your hero's fool

      Mark - 2012-04-03 15:28

      @Sboniswa- I don't want to generalise about Zulus but you are the one that doesn't think. You defend the prez since he is Zulu. How ignorant

      Nyiks11 - 2012-04-03 15:33

      @Sboniswa Insulting Collen's father like you just did shows that you are no different from Magaqa your role model .You just wanna show your girlfriend that today you are on news24

      Sboniswa - 2012-04-03 15:45

      @Mgayi i don't need publicity, i'm black and in University unlike your comrade Magaqa who have a matric certificate and whine to say they want economic the way i'm studying LAW

      Nyiks11 - 2012-04-03 15:51

      @Sboniswa while you are studying law the rest of us are studying you and what an interesting subject you are , and stop giving thumbs up to your own comments !!!!

      Sboniswa - 2012-04-03 16:24

      @Mgayi, you enjoy this, vele they are saying it easy to get famous these days (Malema & Magaqa, your choomies are), and thanks for telling me that you can give youself a thumps up i didn't know i'm new here and i'm going to give myself one....

      Irene - 2012-04-03 17:23

      Mgayi ~ I for one, gave Sboniswa a thumbs up and wish I could give him more. At least he's got off his backside and doing something for himself ie. getting an education. Why don't you try or is it too hard for your little mind to cope with?

      Nyiks11 - 2012-04-04 07:49

      @Irene I see the Kommando Corps brainwashed you well , you now think I have a small cerebral cortex ek se

  • Sylvester.Mohloli - 2012-04-03 14:59

    As for the girfriend...lmao

      Azande - 2012-04-03 15:03

      Eish, these YL boys are a disgrace.

      Thandekile Pokolo - 2012-04-03 15:24


  • Collen - 2012-04-03 15:01

    Those who want respect better quit politics. We are not here to nurse egos. Politics has been a dirty game since long ago. So if you want respect go and be a chief. There is no rule even in the ANC that juniors should respect seniors even if seniors don't create jobs nor bring bread on the table of our masses. We are not playing here you mk vets supporters, WE WANT OUR PRESIDENT BANK, NATIONALISATION OF MINES AND BANKS SO THAT WE BUILD DECENT HOUSE AND PROVIDE QUALITY EDUCATION. A mine surrounded by shacks while one idiot in the name of an investor is making trillions does not make sense to me and real ANC memebers. LETS NOT FORGET THAT mk vets IS A REJECTED GROUP. Why would anyone want zuma to continue while he has not done anything. Any zuma supporter, tell and show me what important thing did he do so far? And you think giving such a man another 5 years is good? Noooooooo....Julius Malema is right and zuma must go, cyril is an idiot.

      shongwepatrick - 2012-04-03 15:15

      @ collen : how old are you?

      Azande - 2012-04-03 15:18

      You are seemingly bred in Limpopo under the "principles" adopted by your mentor Malema. You, small boy, have to learn what "respect" is, seeing that you missed the lesson from your parents. Good luck.

      llmapuma - 2012-04-03 15:21

      "There is no rule even in the ANC that juniors should respect seniors" really dude, really? you want someone to write it down on a piece of paprt that you should respect seniors before you consider doing it.

      laurence.kelesitse1 - 2012-04-03 15:26

      @azande! I agree with u! He n his mentor lack respect!

      Sboniswa - 2012-04-03 15:27

      you are so stupid no wonder you want nationalisation, Malema knows nothing about the economy or even economics subject at school,it shows that you are adrop out like him u fool

      Mark - 2012-04-03 15:30

      @shongwe, does it matter? fool

      llmapuma - 2012-04-03 15:32

      @Sboniswa, you have no idea how frustrating it is to hear them talk about such major economic change. THEY KNOW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT ECONIMC POLICIES. If they only knew noone takes them seriously with their useless ideas.

      Nyiks11 - 2012-04-03 15:37

      @Collen Chief , what do you mean by " we want our president bank ?"

      Bryan - 2012-04-03 15:39

      Collen, you inspire me to stay in university and further my education. Clearly you do not understand the economic implications of nationalizing our mines. You my friend are an imbicile. "There is no rule even in the ANC" - You sound just like malema. "That juniors should respect seniors even if seniors don't creat jobs" - There is no rule stipulating that you should respect anybody but show too little and eventually it will catch up with you moron.

      Nosiphom - 2012-04-03 15:40

      Collen, you bafoon, we want neither Zuma nor Malema, nor yourself and your SG. You guys unfortunately do not even understand economics. If nationalisation worked, the Soviet block would have never collapsed because they would have effectively distributed the wealth that they have still. Why should we therefore believe you that you as mere mortals like everyone else will do differently ? What is the difference between redistribution to the masses and nationalisation so that a few cut 80% for themselves and redistribute the other 20% to the masses?

      laurence.kelesitse1 - 2012-04-03 15:46

      How can you say ur father is an idiot! I believe u not African!

      Bryan - 2012-04-03 15:47

      @Nosiphom I don't think Collen knows where Russia is on the world map. He is just brainwashed.

      Xolani - 2012-04-03 17:31

      How pathetic u r.........Comrade Collen

      Lincoln - 2012-04-04 02:24

      Colin this is the intolerance that Malema is talking about. Other people are ignorant, The ANCYL did research by 1st visiting Zambia, the Zimbabwe, China Venezuela, Norway, e.t.c. whilst he was in Zimbabwe Malema received negative press and none of you bothered to find out the reason for his visit. I can tell you now that Impala Plats is nationalised in Zimbabwe ask David Brown CEO of Impala, they have not run away, the shareholder have not pulled out. So your utterances that the ANCYL do not know about the economy are Bathathe Collen ZUMA MUST GO he is a dictator like Azande who wants your ID before you can raise your opinion. This is a democratic country, Azande strikes fear to his children and wife he should be arrested.

  • vmeiring1 - 2012-04-03 15:02

    Ha, ha... Instead of soldiers they were cooks???? How disrespectfull can one be??

  • Morama - 2012-04-03 15:04

    This is good,let them tear themselves apart so that DA can have a chance to rule!!! And magaxa is telling as it is,all this were the same people that were the servants of "ANC camps" because they survived!!!

      Nigel - 2012-04-03 15:16

      the ANC have brought this on themselves, LOL.... they can't even get on within their own party, how can they expect to govern the country....oh I forgot they don't, now the vultures (Sizwe, Winnie, Phosa, Mbalula & of course Mr bigger than the ANC itself - Julias Malma) hang around waiting for the opportune moment to fool the tired & angry masses that they are going to magically fix the mess the ANC have made.

      Collen - 2012-04-03 15:24

      You might be gay, i suspect.

  • Pat - 2012-04-03 15:22

    MKMVA are real attention seekers..what value are they adding? what is it they have archieved or done rather than being 'Showerhead' mouthpieces..last time they mentioned Malema should have faced the firing squad.They can learn a lot from Mugabe's vets, their obession with Maleme is sickening.

      Mark - 2012-04-03 16:07

      Good observation Pat. There are many old people in Rural areas who are robbed, abused and killed. They are supposed to fight for them. I think MKMVA miss the old days where they shooting people

  • Bhekani - 2012-04-03 15:23

    Magaqa is no a politician, he behaves like a street kid who doesn't care what happens tomorrow. How can you call people who risked their lives for the organisation as laymen

      Sboniswa - 2012-04-03 15:55

      he is trying to gain popularity unfortunately we are not interested in hobos, he must go bath and sort himself and get an education

  • Nyiks11 - 2012-04-03 15:35

    Magaqa must quit his day job , he is a good stand up comedian

  • Litoli.Olembe - 2012-04-03 15:36

    Sindiso is spoton even the so called veterans are factional,who would want to expell his/her child outside d family they r cruel like Zuma,we remain resolute behind our president(Julius) we r unshaken

      Sboniswa - 2012-04-03 15:42

      spot on? my foot, they know nothing but to bark at people, your comrades knows nothing but tenders wena silima

  • Phumi - 2012-04-03 15:36

    MKVA have just cemented our view of the military and intelligence cabal that is trying to turn this country into a dictatorship! We will never give in to the demands and threats of those who want to turn the Youth League into their drum majorretes. This country and our watch won't be govern by those who are hell bent on turning it into a military junta. We the real vangaurds of this revolution will never betray the gains we have made in Polokwane! The ANC is our home too and we won't tolerate tribalistic tendencies that we are witnessing from those who are power drunk!

      Mark - 2012-04-03 15:49

      amandla mntakwethu! many people do not c what is happening. juju or Emilem might be expelled but there are other people who will move the ship forward

      Irene - 2012-04-03 17:26

      LOL! Some ship you got there Bwahahahahahahaha!

  • colin.langley - 2012-04-03 15:39

    this ship is sinking fast!

  • Morne - 2012-04-03 15:40

    They should change their name to ANCBL - And the B doesnt stand for Black~! its for, Baby! Really, this is childs play!

  • Randomhero6661 - 2012-04-03 15:41

    role play? but the ANC is slipping fast. and rightfully so...

  • Cassandra Olivier - 2012-04-03 15:42

    The only group seeking attention is the ANCYL get rid of that idiot for good

      Les - 2012-04-04 07:34

      Cassandr Olivier wld You plz get urself a mentor myb he can teach you a lot abt Ancyl politics,You lack info just like the MKMVA

  • Ditantane - 2012-04-03 15:48

    these cooks should b asking for jobs and houses. They are so useless the anc did not even see them worthy to be security guards at primary schools, real MKs are deployed @ SANDF.

  • kholofelo.phasha - 2012-04-03 15:51

    mbheki was attckd by malema mk nvr interfrd ,nw jz s attckd by his own medicine mk s discriminatin y ddnt thy defend mbheki by the tym malema was attackin him.

  • kholofelo.phasha - 2012-04-03 15:51

    mbheki was attckd by malema mk nvr interfrd ,nw jz s attckd by his own medicine mk s discriminatin y ddnt thy defend mbheki by the tym malema was attackin him.

      Irene - 2012-04-03 17:27

      Try a language we can all understand.

      kholofelo.phasha - 2012-04-03 20:04

      Jst read n pass if u dnt undrstand

  • Pat - 2012-04-03 15:53

    MKMVA lots are just like dead snakes. The aims of the MKMVA include the following. Education support(failed), Empowerment of women(failed), Poverty alleviation (failed decimally). Protect Showerhead regardless(101% job well done).Now please who wants to take them seriously?

      Mark - 2012-04-03 16:15

      not the poor masses definitely

      Nosiphom - 2012-04-03 16:31

      dismally not decimally!

  • Jymiro - 2012-04-03 16:03

    @Sboniswa - we don't have time for tribal politics. Its quite interesting to see what kind of a lawyer you will be if ever you will finish that degree

      Sboniswa - 2012-04-03 17:15

      don't worry, education is my number one priority

      Irene - 2012-04-03 17:28

      Sboniswa ~ Well done.

  • Sylvia - 2012-04-03 17:08

    Well Malema was neither a soldier, nor a cook, and as for being attention seeking, Juju surely 'takes the cake'.

  • Pat - 2012-04-03 17:08

    Nosiphom thank you sisi...English spelling can be tricky, even for English speakers! That's because English is not 100% phonetic and also

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