MPs vote in favour of info bill

2011-11-22 14:42

Cape Town - MPs voted in favour of the protection of state information bill (POIB) on Tuesday.

A total of 229 MPs voted in favour of the bill, and 107 against. There were two abstentions.

The various political parties are making declarations on the bill before a final decision is taken to pass it.

The bill came before the National Assembly in Cape Town, as protests against the bill took place in Johannesburg, Pretoria, Durban and the Mother City.

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  • Elle-Black - 2011-11-22 14:43

    Wow no surprises there

      Tshifhiwa - 2011-11-22 14:48

      yes it was expected, but 259 votes i thought it would be a little bit lesser.

      Bonjo - 2011-11-22 14:55

      Thanks ANC, you've just lost my vote in the next election...There's such so much a person can take!

      Willie - 2011-11-22 14:56

      ANC MP'S with no spine ,they voted for abortion against their will,religion,conviction and so forth ,basically it is not suprising for this one

      Faizal - 2011-11-22 14:58

      All those in favour of corruption:259 All those against:32

      Perfume - 2011-11-22 15:02

      If they voted against the Bill today, they would of been cast out into the streets...these MPs were only protecting their thieving rights!!!!!!!

      Lerato - 2011-11-22 15:05

      The ANC just dug their own grave...!!! people(who always voted for them religiously) will see this as back stabbing - ANC bye bye, you're the weakest link.

      chanchan - 2011-11-22 15:06

      i love these comments, whites, blacks, indians and colords coming 2gether against a greater evil(ANC) !!!

      jfarway - 2011-11-22 15:07

      Its a clear indication of 259 corrupt MPs

      Wesley - 2011-11-22 15:07

      Ya at first they suspend Juju! WhhoooHooooo Then give us a royal rogering with the Info bill!!! WTF!!???

      Alan - 2011-11-22 15:09

      Hmmm .. now as Investors head for the hills, and the productive tax payers head for democratic pastures, where oh where will we find money to loot now? Eish

      Angelo - 2011-11-22 15:10

      Jacob Zuma institutes the investigations in to arms deal after he has been forced to do so by a court challenge, The ANC then rushes through the security bill to safe guard any and all information that will point a finger at the ANC elite, effectively nullifying the threat of the probe. Don't be fooled South Africa you have just been screwed! Welcome to the Banana Republic of South Africa( and i hate myself for saying that about this country i love so much)

      Dewald G. - 2011-11-22 15:11

      Ermm Lebo... your 'vote' won't count in the 'next election'. You honestly think it will be fair and transparent? Good luck with that.

      Leon - 2011-11-22 15:15

      VIVA MPs VIVA Eish mmmmm can i say that

      Travis - 2011-11-22 15:19

      Disgusting decisions being made on behalf of the Tax payers. ANC make me sick!

      Larry - 2011-11-22 15:23

      Watch the Rand drop, as International Investors shy away from this pack of crooks.

      Chumscrubber1 - 2011-11-22 15:24

      Agree, no surprises - this lot don't won't their shenanigans exposed, they want the freedom to loot state coffers at will. This is what they meant when they said they were fighting for "freedom". Nothing to do with the freedom of Joe public. Sies, revolting people!

      Sheik - 2011-11-22 15:31

      At Bardy: You left out the thieving bit.

      Lerato - 2011-11-22 15:33

      Amen Brother Tutu...looks like ur prayers are being answered (2 weeks ago Juju) now this - Hamba ANC, Hamba...

      Herman - 2011-11-22 15:40

      We are screwed with a Capital F!

      richard.hipkin - 2011-11-22 15:44

      *POOF* - there goes our democracy... Hello Apartheid, been gone for a while - can't say I'm glad to see your old ugly face again.

      Jacob - 2011-11-22 15:48

      It is such a pity the ANC politicians and their advisors cannot read and, least of all, read all these comments because, if they did, they would finally realise that they are completely out of touch with the greater population of this country. In every other democracy around the world the government stays in touch with the will of the people. The ANC government of this country can therefore no longer call it a democracy because democracy is government for the people, by the people. Unfortunately the people in this country no longer have a voice. It is thus not a democracy but one that is following the history of the rest of Africa thereby fast becoming a one-party state and, inevitably, a failed state. The ANC consistently say we must not repeat the mistakes of the past yet this is EXACTLY what they are doing - they are repeating the failures of the previous regime while also repeating those of the rest of Africa.

      Arthur - 2011-11-22 15:49

      Agree, don’t know why people are so upset. Everyone knew it was going to up to the Con Court to decide. At least there we will have a unbiased opinion. I must give it to the ANC, they play by the rules, Votes count people. WOW!!!! What a show of power. Message to the DA, by the looks of things you should change you strategy. You can start by distancing yourself from racist bigots on this website who proclaim to be DA members. If you don’t you will not get more black votes. Votes count people and the ANC , whether you state that they followers are what………. , they play the democracy game better then the experience folks.

      Siotine - 2011-11-22 15:51

      People I have come to the true realization that our beloved president is a piece of wood from an outside shower.

      Spyker - 2011-11-22 15:52

      ... Lerato – I think it is appropriate to ‘literarily’ (ie in the written sense) support my ‘thumbs-up’ of your comments here. Remember 22 November 2011, it is a day that will go down in the history of SA – keep the black shirt/top you wore today – it may have a lot of value (if only sentimental) one day. A day, I suspect, that SAcans of all colours, persuasions, etc stood together against a regime that claims to represent the majority of SAcans... The ANC may in fact, unwittingly, have brought a diverse range of SAcans together, in a way that no other event/enitity has before. Perhaps I have been wrong all along, perhaps SA does in fact have a future – certainly NOT under the ANC – but it seems perhaps, as a consequence of the ANC rabid ignorance and pigheaded arrogance. Now, if we can build on this UNITY that existed today, SA has a future where future generations can prosper in a way that few can imagine.., a future free of crime, corruption, rape, murder, exploitation and alike. As the old adage says: THE FISH ROTS FROM THE HEAD...

      Sharkshoot - 2011-11-22 15:54

      Ever wondered why the ANC has close links to China.....both countries want to be Capitalists and Communists at the same time...having your cake and eating it.

      msendi - 2011-11-22 15:56

      Eish… Majority rule…

      Gareth - 2011-11-22 16:07

      And yet people still vote ANC,cause they don't know any better.The ANC reckons it's a state within the state,and that it is the state itself.Wait till the country goes totally bankrupt through lack of Foreign direct investment,before these "know no better" numbnuts realize who they've actually voted for over the past 17 years. True the Apartheid-era Protection of Information Act of 1982 needed to be updated and refreshed as it was outdated but not like the ANC had and wanted it done.They doing it to secure Zuma's election for a second term as President,to hide the high profile corruption allegations you see expose by the Media,and to curb spying laws and whistleblowing on ANC officials and other high ranking people from different areas of interest in South Africa.

      kayceechick - 2011-11-22 16:19

      Im confused IOL : "The outcome of the vote was 229 in favour and 107 against in the 400-member House. There were two abstentions." News24 : "A total of 259 yes votes were received, with 41 no votes and 32 abstentions. " I know numbers mean nothing since its already too late... But still??

      frans.visserdsb - 2011-11-22 16:33

      @kayceechick there were actually 2 votes. the first one was a motion to withdraw the bill - this motion was defeated 222 by 107. The next one was to pass the secrecy bill - this was passed by 259-41...

      rossallenronnie - 2011-11-22 16:44


      Mugzy - 2011-11-22 18:07

      ¦¦¦¦ ¦¦¦ ¦¦¦, ¦¦¦ ¦¦¦ ¦ ¦¦¦¦¦ ¦¦ ¦¦¦-¦¦¦¦¦. ¦¦¦¦, ¦¦¦ ¦¦¦-¦¦¦¦¦, ¦¦¦¦¦¦¦!!! ¦¦ ¦¦¦¦¦ ¦¦¦ ¦¦¦¦ ¦¦ ¦¦¦¦ ¦¦¦!!!!!!!!!

      Mugzy - 2011-11-22 18:11

      "Press Freadom will never be under threat in South Africa as long as the ANC is the majority party" Nelson Mandela November 19, 1997

      Donder - 2011-11-22 18:16

      "he who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither" Benjamin Franklin

      Sean - 2011-11-22 19:04

      Has anyone ever thought that Zuma will stop this ? Maybe it`s all part of his plan to win popularity ? Just a theory !

      Marc - 2011-11-22 20:12

      All the good that the ANC has ever done has just been cancelled out by this single cowardly act of their MPs. The ANC can never again take the moral high ground. Whenever Zuma et al speak again, this is what people will see and hear. History will judge them not only in the future, but in the present. They've truly shown in this act who they really are and what what they truly believe. They are not leaders, but thieves.

      nicolene.scheepers3 - 2011-11-23 15:20

      "Press freedom will never be under threat in South Africa as long as the ANC is the majority party". Nelson Mandela 19/11/1997

      Merven - 2011-11-24 11:39

      So there are 229 corrupt and scared officials.

  • tripledunny - 2011-11-22 14:45

    that's the end of freedom of speech.

      Deon - 2011-11-22 14:49

      We still have the C court that can stop it / send them back to fix it.

      Dudleygbu - 2011-11-22 15:10

      a sad day for the country.....lets hope the C court can fix it.....somehow i doubt it.....

      NrGx - 2011-11-22 15:11

      @deon - thats true, but it is moegoe moegoe and who placed him in that position?? thats right mr corrupt himself.

      John - 2011-11-22 15:21

      Deon, if you believe that then I hope Father Christmasyou what you have wished for.

      Larry - 2011-11-22 15:25

      Problem with the ConCourt is, it is stacked with ANC people. Now the Arms deal enquiry can go ahead and we will not be allowed to know what exactly went on.

      Deon - 2011-11-22 16:02

      The C court has made a few rulings against ANC in the past, let us hope it happens again.

  • tonybighit - 2011-11-22 14:45

    Old McDonald had a farm, hi ah hi ah ho. And on that farm he had some sheep....

      Greg - 2011-11-22 14:53

      Perfect! Now we can all be good little sheep and do as we are told. So much for free thinking, the ANC now decides what is right and wrong. Sad sad day for South Africa. The worse is yet to come.. when it becomes official law.

      Duane - 2011-11-22 14:53

      no he had no sheep cause they stole it for JZ weddings

      jpdvvn - 2011-11-22 14:55

      ...the ANC MP's stole it and sold it cheep... (Not to be published)

      tonybighit - 2011-11-22 15:10

      I wish we can see who the retards are who clicked dislike on these comments.

      Lerato - 2011-11-22 15:22

      and on the farm theh were some swines (ANC) hia hia hoo, and then the swine were going around - eating everything in their path hia, hia, hoo

  • The-third - 2011-11-22 14:46

    Of course they have. See you in court you bunch of hooligans.

      The-third - 2011-11-22 15:05

      Just want to add that its laughable that a bunch of MPs that hardly ever bother pitching for parliamentary sessions - many of who were involved with the travelgate and other scandals, can vote on something that affects our rights as citizens.

      Ronald - 2011-11-22 15:51

      This bill is the last ditch tool to keep them out of jail.

  • ryan.kruger1 - 2011-11-22 14:46

    Here we go...

  • Jeanne - 2011-11-22 14:46

    Still wearing black.

  • kerrimg - 2011-11-22 14:46

    i think they said yes because they got alot to hide welcome to the passed........

  • thelittlegreenhouse - 2011-11-22 14:46

    Is News24 allowed to publish this!?

      Wesley - 2011-11-22 14:49


      jpdvvn - 2011-11-22 14:50

      They will be arrested soon...

      Greg - 2011-11-22 14:54

      HAHA!! Its funny now, but not so much in 6 months time!

      Johan - 2011-11-22 15:07

      Yes, but not for long

      Deon - 2011-11-22 15:09

      Yes, it is not law yet. It is also aimed at the printed media.

      Danie - 2011-11-22 15:15

      @ Rabbit, rather would say dumb uneducated bastards, whom only care about their own pockets, and that of their closest families!!! Fuc k all of them, the whole corrupt lot!!!!!

      Sheik - 2011-11-22 15:37

      At Rabbit:- You can't say they are stupid, That's the state secret.

      Gilbert - 2011-11-22 15:42

      @rabbit - where did you get you info - did you steel it, lol

      Marc - 2011-11-22 20:39

      Watch for the underground newspapers, or the Samizdat press. Doesn't the stupid government realize we're in the age of global media. Very few people actually watch TV news anymore. Check out the AMPS figures. Opinion leaders actually mine alternative and online media for information. They (we) know there's bu=== all on S(ANC)BC.

  • gareth.hansen - 2011-11-22 14:46

    Surprise surprise!

  • tanya.bekker - 2011-11-22 14:46

    It's a sad day for South Africa :( Don't know if it's worth staying here anymore....

      Brian - 2011-11-22 14:50

      Dont give up hope this will be challenged in the constitutional court. Remember that we have being carrying hope for over 20 years now. All is not lost, not yet

      Brian - 2011-11-22 16:37

      @ Herman : It is disheartening to think that most people only become politically aware during election time and that logic and reason are easily swayed by racial verbiage. We remember that no system neither good nor bad stands the test of time. Will we look back in 50 years time and call this time a golden age or will we look back shaking our heads in dismay.

      Kevin - 2011-11-22 16:45

      Have to agree...left another beautiful country up north because of the same those liberals...ever spent time in jail for disapproving the manner in which your governor squanders the public purse and you refused to acknowledge his presence by not standing to attention when he entered the room....been their done that and nobody knew about it.Don't ever criticize the government...15yrs without trial no jokes.

      Brian - 2011-11-22 17:17

      @ Kevin : could you imagine if Nelson Mandela, Oliver Thambo etc has the same attitude as you.

      Denise - 2011-11-22 22:54

      That it is, to both comments/statements! But we need the numbers for a really good 'we told you so' party. You really don't want to miss 'the rubbing of nose in empty trough party' now do you?

  • gareth.hansen - 2011-11-22 14:46

    Surprise, surprise!

  • Laura De La Mare - 2011-11-22 14:47

    I agree, no surprises with the outcome, a sad day in our country's history indeed

  • Brad - 2011-11-22 14:47

    The road to the concourt may be long and expensive but that is exactly where this bill needs to be, to be shredded to pieces.

      Marc - 2011-11-22 19:46

      Unfortunately, that's why Zuma stuck Mogoeng in there -- to prevent any successful Concourt challenge to the infamy of what happened today. The ANC made many enemies today. And those ANC MP's to "just followed orders" to vote for the bill; deep in their hearts (if they have one) they must hate themselves for meing such moral cowards.

  • Basjan - 2011-11-22 14:48

    Aaagh Faaaak

  • cosmos.ndebele - 2011-11-22 14:48

    Democracy and freedom of information has been lost with this vote

      Denise - 2011-11-22 23:34

      No No Not Yet! We still have Con Court, The Public Protector and the Might of the Masses. Do Not Despair. The Might of the Right Will Overcome.

      Peter - 2011-11-23 07:55

      Well, hopefully and I am trying to be positive here, this will start to change the country from within!!! Maybe this is the spark that a lot of people needed to start questioning the party that they have been voting for! This could actually have a very negative affect on the ANC if everyone stands together and votes against them!

  • Gregory Jurgens - 2011-11-22 14:48

    Baa baa black sheep.

      Duane - 2011-11-22 14:58

      Beware Gregory , u are been un pc with that black sheep comment :)

      Marc - 2011-11-22 19:50

      True Jurgens. The ANC MP's who voted for their bill are truly just sheep without a conscience, or any integrity. They sold their soals for their good of their jobs. They sold out the people for their own ambitions. Now the new struggle begins: The thinking people against the fat (over-fed), dumb, stupid (under-educated) sheep.

  • Elle-Black - 2011-11-22 14:49

    It is beyond my comprehension how the ANC can have such a complete diregard for the citizens of this country. It means absolutely nothing to them that majority of citizens (even those that voted for them)do not want this bill to be passed. They are doing their utmost to be kicked out of power, I hope voters wont disappoint them come the next elcetions

      irritirritated - 2011-11-22 15:43

      Sorry to burst your bubble, but guess what - all the voters who vote for the ANC will vote for them again regardless. My heart is broken. End of a wonderful democracy. Sad state of affairs - "cry my beloved country"

      Elle-Black - 2011-11-22 15:44

      @ Adrian then maybe drastic action is required,the previous government also thought that they would rule til the end of times,nobody is above the rule of the people when they put their minds to it

      Marc - 2011-11-22 19:54

      Adrian, they don't need to rig the vote. ANC voters willingly give their vote for a t-shirt and a plate of food. So long as they have their soccer on TV (amusing themselves to death), they are happy. They are not citizens at all; just dumb sheep being herded off to the shearers (taxes) and the abbatoir.

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  • gerald.steyn - 2011-11-22 14:49

    What is next, new pass laws?

      Herman - 2011-11-22 15:00

      Mmmmmm, almost commented out of turn here....almost...

      SunshineK - 2011-11-22 15:24

      I've been asked for my ID many a time by the police and when I tell them I left it home they ask me why, as if I should be carrying it around with me! They seem to still think pass laws exist.

      Mrs-Pal - 2011-11-22 16:05

      Pass-Laws will be welcomed. That will restore our crime statistics back to pre-1994!

  • jpdvvn - 2011-11-22 14:49

    Democrasy?! Cheers newspapers.

  • Adam - 2011-11-22 14:49

    Now come the long constitutional court battles until it is overturned.More money wasted. The anc is weak.

      David - 2011-11-22 15:47

      I'd rather the money be spent on overturning the law than on a luxury German sedan

  • dewald.galjaard - 2011-11-22 14:49

    If you have nothing to hide... you would have voted 'not in favour'.

  • Karin - 2011-11-22 14:49

    No surprise, now they can hide their corruption. Watch this space!!!!

  • TheSkepticDetective - 2011-11-22 14:50

    A death-knell for democracy in South Africa

  • TheRealWarrenB - 2011-11-22 14:50

    ¦¦¦ you Jacob Zuma. ¦¦¦ you ANC. You have ¦¦¦ up this country. You lazy mother ¦¦¦!!! ¦¦¦ the arms deal! ¦¦¦ the protection of information bill!

  • LouisC - 2011-11-22 14:51

    I hope Cosatu, who was opposed to this bill, will now tell its members to no longer keep the ANC in power. The ANC MPs that voted this bill into law clearly did this to protect the organisation itself, because it’s clear as day that it has become rotten to the core. Now the rot won’t be exposed any more. Truly a VERY sad day for South Africa. A VERY sad day.

  • Greg - 2011-11-22 14:51

    So much for democracy. Good luck everybody.

  • Elaine - 2011-11-22 14:52

    They need to worry about the next elections in 2013! They haven't got as many blind supporters as they had in the past.

      aleck.swart - 2011-11-22 15:09

      The amount of people who voted for the ANC = state secret, so they don't really care

  • Tyrone Evans - 2011-11-22 14:52

    Let me guess. The next stats that come out will show a reduction in corruption. These guys are pure genius.....hmm.

  • funi.ambe - 2011-11-22 14:53

    80% of the MP, that is more than the ANC representation

      frans.visserdsb - 2011-11-22 14:56

      nope... 259 out of 400 MP's is 65%...Not sure where the missing MP's were...probably the other 68 were in the pub?

      Mvikeli - 2011-11-22 15:44

      nope, out of 322 possible votes, 259 were "yes" (80%), 41 were no and 32 abstained

      frans.visserdsb - 2011-11-22 15:55

      @ Mvileki - do your homework. there are 400 MP's in the National Assembly.

      Mvikeli - 2011-11-22 16:26

      Do yours Frans (it's spelt Mvikeli)....Facts stated that 80% of the MPs who voted is more than the ANC representation, therefore like you also said, not all ANC MPs voted. does not matter how many are in the National Assembly, what matters is how many voted

  • Final.Punishment - 2011-11-22 14:53

    That is the end of Freedom in our country...

  • TrueTenacity - 2011-11-22 14:53

    And this is how democracy dies...

  • Shirley - 2011-11-22 14:53

    With that ammount of votes it is clear how much deceit and corruption is in the ruling part!!!!! We can mark this day on calenders as the beginning of the end!ANNONYMOUS.NAMELESS.CR@P=ANC

  • Nugh Tyer - 2011-11-22 14:53

    The number of votes cast for the approval is the size of the corruption we dealing with in this country. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. How sad...

  • Myancmyfuture - 2011-11-22 14:54

    I wonder why everyone is worried about this,

      Shirley - 2011-11-22 14:57

      Because of people like you!

      Kosie - 2011-11-22 15:14

      well pretty soon we won'tbe able to tell you because we won't be allowed to discuss politics in public

      Myancmyfuture - 2011-11-22 15:20

      @ Shirley, because of people like me? in terms of skin colour or what?

      Gregory Jurgens - 2011-11-22 15:21

      Keep wondering pal.

      Chris - 2011-11-22 15:27

      Don't think Shirley meant your skin colour...think she meant your obnoxious comment...but I could be wrong!

      Chumscrubber1 - 2011-11-22 15:30

      The fact that you cannot figure out why it worries everybody explains why you still admire the corrupt ANC regime. I'd suggest you're possibly a beneficiary of the looting?

      Chumscrubber1 - 2011-11-22 15:33

      "People like you" does not have anything to do with skin colour, its a certain mentality some people have, regardless of race. If you are black, you are insulting your boeties with that kind of reasoning.

      Larry - 2011-11-22 15:35

      @MyANC****. You have no future. Next step is for a new lot to get in at Polokwane and the old lot lose their spot at the trough. Think Mbeki, Malema, Lekota, etc. You, sunshine are a born loser.

      Travis - 2011-11-22 15:39

      @Myancmyfuture In terms sheer stupidity!

      Omnivore - 2011-11-22 15:51

      Because it is going to make it even easier for powerful people to get away with illegal things. Because it will allow those in power to hide from those who vote, thus undermining democracy. This is not difficult to understand.

      Peter - 2011-11-22 15:53

      No Myancmyfuture not your skin color moron, your stupidity, you should really not advertise it, reflects bad on your race. Simpler than that i cant put it. You are a racist as thats all that comes out your mouth about color i wont walk on eggshells hell if you black then you are black, im sorry if you are ashamed of it, hopefully oneday when you are lying in the gutter you will understand!

      Kay - 2011-11-22 15:55

      myanc, nobody is talking bout skin so dont try make it out to be a racist thing, u say u hate racist, yet u plot almost a non racist remark on a WHITE , sorry seems like u r a racist and need to sit and think a bit more, secondly the ANC is taking your biggest right away, if you havent noticed they not only taking the whites down they are taking you down to, but too bad we'll never know, cause now they are secret. I hope you will open your eyes, mr civil engineer, no more racism please just think a bit and realise where you and your family will be in 10 years.

      MEC - 2011-11-22 16:08

      Because this was the way the NP used to keep everything under wraps so that they could continue with their unholy plans. Because we can see the warning signs, because we (you included) must be worried when your government tells you what you can and cannot say.

      Shane - 2011-11-22 16:13

      because my dear friend when politicians can hide things they become non-accountable which is called a dictatorship

      george.charalambous2 - 2011-11-22 16:20

      isn't it amazing that you claim to be non racist but you use racism (your colour) as your first line of defense when you are questioned about your views. Can you not think as a South African and see that we are about to regress to the dark days of oppression - as we had in the days of apartheid?

      Ronald - 2011-11-22 16:24

      YOU DUMB FUC K!!!! We are worried because intellectually challenged people like you are making poor decisions that negatively influence the entire welbeing of this amazing country.

      LouisC - 2011-11-22 16:49

      Our constitution stipulates what our rights are, correct? One of them is the right to information. This right has just been taken away from us (YOU included). It’s a right that’s up there with the right to freedom of religion, freedom to vote, freedom to work… It’s one of your rights that’s been taken away. The ‘struggle’ was against the oppression of human rights. We then got given the most liberal constitution in the world, where we enjoy a vast amount of rights. These rights are the rights that O R Thambo, Nelson Mandela, Steve Biko, Beyers Naude and others walked a very difficult road for. And today, in an instant, someone has started chipping away at those rights again. This bill will give the government the ability to enrich whom they choose. As an example – they can now choose to keep a list of government funded houses secret. It means that you will never be able to know who received houses. They can thus grant houses to whom they choose. If you’re not favored by someone in government, you will never get a house. Think about it… There are many many poor people in this country that has very little to offer in return to someone in power in the government – these people will now most likely never receive a home…

      Grim - 2011-11-22 17:04

      because people like you will lose out.. thats why we are worried

  • Alexis - 2011-11-22 14:54

    Well, it doesn't really change anything. They'll still be robbing the people of this country blind - it just won't make the papers.

  • Herman - 2011-11-22 14:54

    Let the dictatorship which will make SA just another African country begin!!

  • wilma.botts - 2011-11-22 14:54

    Well well seems we becoming like a communist country......what a sad day this will be for all law abiding citizens

  • Francois - 2011-11-22 14:55

    Dark Skies

  • Gregory Jurgens - 2011-11-22 14:55

    Lol . They censored my black sheep comment. It's a sad day for freedom

  • Final.Punishment - 2011-11-22 14:56

    What Mandela worked for..... **FLUSH**

      Alan - 2011-11-22 14:58

      Damn ...still few 'floaters' left after that flush.

  • Wayne - 2011-11-22 14:57

    Let the stealing really start, up to now this was appetisers and the main course is being prepared. We may as well remove the boarders between SA and Zim as very soon we will not know which country we are in. Well done to all the ANC supported – you have unfortunate made the bed we all have to share... what’s the use you probable do not even know what the rest of us are worried about.

      chris.debeer1 - 2011-11-22 15:24

      Any person despise weaklings and the white race is weak!! Appogies for Apartheid, the invention of the Wheel, Commercial Farming, Mining,the creation of infrastruture and for being White. It is Great if a Black man fights for his people Eg Jesse Jackson but show me one white that defends his group and he is a RACIST NO BRAIN PIG!! We whites are so sorry to be alive it is scary!! I am not a racist but I am tired to be blamed for al the Ills of Africa. The Bleeding hart liberals wanted one man one vote!! That F@#k up of a Racist Verwoerd told them CLEARLY oneman one vote is not that it will be domination of Black arrogance over weakling whites!! HEHE 40 Years on his words ring so True YOu all Dumm to have fallen for the Rainbow Nation A rainbow DOES NOT EXSIST IT is an optical illusion. That Racist PIG Verwoerd would have told you that

      Mvikeli - 2011-11-22 16:16

      at the end of the day democracy dictates one man one vote. Not entirely sure how this became a race thing though?

  • clayton.bezuidenhout - 2011-11-22 14:57

    Well sh*t!

  • Ivan - 2011-11-22 14:57

    Gee i wonder if its a good thing being neighbours with you guys - dark days for SA - good luck from Namibia

      rbriedenhann - 2011-11-23 07:10

      Dual citizenship SA/Nam ..............choose one

  • JT - 2011-11-22 14:58

    Occupy JHB? Let's do it!

  • zwidofhelan - 2011-11-22 14:58

    This is too bad for the country that once fought for freedom of speech

  • Terrence - 2011-11-22 14:59

    So much for the will of the people.

  • Barbicus247 - 2011-11-22 14:59

    White folk are pissed off, i like pissed off.So much about the Black Tuesday.U may now revert back to your white t-shirts.

      Alan - 2011-11-22 15:04

      You will be lucky to have any shirt in the future.

      Wayne - 2011-11-22 15:06

      I see u live in Zim, and speaking of Zim I have in fact noticed the huge improvements there over the past 15 years. If I recall all of africa and all its people are doing great, and this all based on the same thinking. Gotta love the logic!!!

      Sammy - 2011-11-22 15:07

      How about you kiss me where I poop hey pumpkin?

      Sammy - 2011-11-22 15:13

      What makes me laugh about you is the fact that you post here meanwhile back at ranche AKA ZIM you probably don't have a website where you can post because people like you bends for evil uncle bob! OH WAIT nvm I understand clearly now why u here...

      Alan - 2011-11-22 15:38

      @Shirley - not fair to make general statements .. pleanty of top class Black people in this country. Sadly lacking in Government.

      Perfume - 2011-11-22 15:43

      You are a fool if you think only whites were wearing black today!!

      Shane - 2011-11-22 16:16

      my friend you may smirk but these are the very laws that robbed us of good leaders who lie in the ground. so think carefully when you condone politicians hiding info from their voters

  • itinews - 2011-11-22 14:59

    It comes as no surprise that the Bill will protect those who have most to lose from a new Arms Deal investigation.

  • Johan - 2011-11-22 14:59

    Black Tuesday