Malema comes out fighting

2011-11-24 22:52

Bloemfontein - ANC Youth League president Julius Malema on Thursday night accused the ANC leadership of double standards and not keeping to the party's history.

"The discipline of the ANC must not have eyes, it must be consistent," Malema told a huge crowd at a lecture in Rocklands, Mangaung.

Referring to the two ANC MPs who failed to vote on the protection of state information bill in Parliament this week, Malema said these people had disobeyed the ANC.

They also openly talked about why they had defied the party.

"The discipline of the ANC must apply to everybody. Let's see what happens," Malema said.

Pointing to youth league leaders, Malema said they had been suspended for talking politics and for holding a different view.

He said on the other side the party had people who lied to the state president, stole government money and went to visit girlfriends in prisons.

"They do not get DC [disciplinary hearings], they do not get suspended, they remain in Parliament."

Malema said it needed to be explained why party members found to have stolen public funds, [investigated and confirmed], could stay a member of the ANC, but somebody not agreeing politically was expected to leave.

Earlier, Malema told the crowd there had never been an ANC Youth League leader who had been prosecuted in public.

He referred to Nelson Mandela and Walter Sisulu who gave the early ANC leadership trouble on how things had to be done.

"OR Tambo, the deputy-president, explained inside the party that the youth works like this. He never agreed with them and he never suspended them."

Malema told the crowd that "we are going to be suspended" but that he did not care.

"We are ready for anything."

Malema and five other ANCYL leaders were found guilty and sanctioned by the ANC's national disciplinary committee (NDC) two weeks ago.

Malema was given a five-year suspension and was told to vacate his position as president. The deadline to appeal ends midnight on Thursday.

If the leaders do not appeal, they remain suspended. On Thursday night, Malema submitted he stood by everything said and done that led to the disciplinary hearing.

Even if he gets suspended and sent to "a little corner in the bundus", he would tell the other cattle herders that the ANCYL was correct in its opinion.

Malema urged other youth leaders not to show fear.

"If you get a call after this meeting, you will be a changed man."

He also called for radical change in the ANC during the party’s centenary celebrations in January 2012.

  • NeoAcheron - 2011-11-24 23:01

    "Ooooh, but what about those people, and what about those people, and what about Mandela and Sisulu." Sounds more like "crying" than "fighting" to me...

      Ampers - 2011-11-24 23:32

      Won't this person ever go away?

      Spyker - 2011-11-24 23:51

      Hey Skhanyo.., Here is something for you and your fat tsotsi to listen to.., guess what, we have also had a 'meeting' and we have a message for you - I suggest you listen VERY carefully. To the rest, climb on your desk, ram your speakers up to full volume and let this freak know we are not one of his little friends...

      kalosi.ramakhula - 2011-11-25 06:04

      Would you rather we came out fighting . In your opinion this is what this is all about? how individuals appear? For your information what ever happens to Malema and his committee, this ANCYL is the only true custodian of the true aspirations of Blacks in this country. Just do a bit of research of this country's history and find full length videos of Malema's speeches, you may be weaned away from petty talk.

      Breinlekkasie - 2011-11-25 06:31

      Yes you right they are "true custodian of the true aspirations of Blacks in this country". 1. Increasing crime 2. Increasing unemployment 3. Increasing corruptions 4. Compromised education system 5. Limited economic growth Come on, is this what the majority of black South Africans stand for? If that is true their standard are very low!

      msendi - 2011-11-25 06:52

      @Spyker_May… Nice video… Nice song…

  • mastersvoice - 2011-11-24 23:04

    All I can hear is dirt being shovelled as he digs deeper and deeper into his own grave.

  • - 2011-11-24 23:15

    If the ANC has "true grit".... then expulsion comes to mind! Naaaah.... never - that would be too correct!

  • Skhanyo - 2011-11-24 23:18

    again Juju speaks the truth!! why are those who have been found to have stolen government money have not been suspended? The ANC,as per the constitution, stands against corruption. They are the ones who should be suspended not a youth league leader who holds a different political view and the keys to the next president of the country. viva Juju viva!! show no fear!!!

      Red - 2011-11-24 23:24

      Do we really want to bring money into this? Certain tenders and interesting trust funds come to mind. Your EX-president is nothing but an oxygen thief and the sooner we see the back of him the better for all South Africans (especially the poor who he has been robbing blind).

      Lauren - 2011-11-24 23:37

      Because he too stole the money through tenders, sweet pea.

      Lauren - 2011-11-24 23:50

      Oh, and Skhanyo, where were you two years ago when I called BS on juju's support of JZ? Probably the first to call me a white agent. What did Julius say? We will kill for Zuma. What a fickle f*cking bastard. I called it then and I am collecting now. Your horror wants to be the next Bob. Power has made him hungry. He is misguided. Will you follow him into the abyss? Apply some sound economics before you jump up and down. For your own sake.

      Gareth - 2011-11-24 23:54

      @Skhanyo - The ANC is so corrupt, dirty and full of lies that not even those who are guilty have the moral compass to find themselves to the parking area after a meeting. Malema is one of many, yes he got suspended, and my hope is that so will the rest but to be frank if we were to suspend all corrupt ANC officials in the morning there would be no one pitching up at work on Monday to "run" the country. Take, take, take and take some more. If its not tenders, its corruption, if it’s not nepotism well then its excessive spending on unnecessary hotels. Even the Minister of Agriculture ended up staying in a luxury Sandton Guest House, what on earth for no one knows cause Sandton is quite some distance from the farms. The Con Court is today in the news under the light of dubious activities and questionable choices, led by the ANC and its wishes. Thing is Skhanyo, nor you or I will see any benefit out of a corrupt government because they take for themselves. They shout "the poor this and the poor that" but when it comes down to it they don’t really care about the poor because it’s not something they have to worry about anymore. We all do though, while they swallow our tax money whole in small tot glasses of Johnnie Walker, in absurd celebration parties, in mindless acquisition of building and in buying photocopiers that could suffice a continent in a province barely able to feed the starving. So keep dreaming Skhanyo, this is not a black and white issue, its Theft!

      Sean - 2011-11-25 00:29

      @Skhanyo ! LOL !! Another clever one !!

      Skhanyo - 2011-11-25 01:56

      People I appreciate your comments but we must not forget that everyone is innocent until proven guilty, I am referring to the allegations of tender fraud Juju has never been charged or proven guilty of such an offence, accordingly as a a true South African I regard him as innocent...I further would like to make it quite clear to you that the status quo of the economy will not be forever..lastly I have done economics and was very good at it, though I do not see its relevance when I am talking about the persecution of Juju by our very own ANC...Let us all remember the words of Carl Sagan: the truth may be puzzling. It may take some work to grapple with. It may be counterintuitive.It may contradict deeply held prejudices.It may not be consonant to what we desperately want to be true. The quote was for you guys.

      Stefan - 2011-11-25 02:09

      Skhanyo... i know for sure that when juju becomes president, that we would probably be poor neighbors together.... honestly... ask juju... what have he done for YOU... did he give you money?? did he give you a car, a R16 million house?? no he didn't... stupid IDIOT!! look at Zimbabwe... everything is being repeated here... and ask the zimbabweans if they are happy??? NOPE... thats why 70% of them are illegal in OUR country... your so blind, and ill probably laugh my ass off at you when we share the same feelings.. hahahahaha.. just wait and see..

      Gareth - 2011-11-25 02:15

      @Skhanyo - If you are quite good at economics then you surely should be able to see the never ending torrent of theft by almost every "elected" ANC official. Corruption is rife, like it or not, it is so as a result of the greed perpetuated by those elected to power by the masses. Those masses still suffer, those masses still go hungry and the officials tasked with alleviating this issue have had a feast of their own. Here are some economics you should consider: The idiotic mumblings of Malema would have you believe that the wealth will be forcefully taken from those who have it and dispersed amongst those who don't in one form or another. Take all the resources and income thereof which sustains an economy, spread it around, thinly enough so it cannot count, steal the rest and spend what is left over. What you will find at the end of this very short honeymoon is absolutely nothing! Carl Sagan's truth mentioned had nothing to do with blind, one sided political greed and the extension of people’s financial suffering as a result of it. Waking up might not be a bad idea, Juju will screw you with everyone else, he already is and you are too blind to see it.

      Gerald - 2011-11-25 06:04

      it is irrelevant to me what happens to Mr malema, the youth league, and or even the da for that matter...politics only matter if they earnestly seek to advance the socioeconomic agenda of its national participants. Regardless of what a cancer male a may seem to the and and country his 'I'll descipline' means he will put the incumbent leadership on its toes...ii is a fact that regardless of youth league's opportunistic hijack of its constitution the DC processes were flawed...similarly his uttetances at Mangaung make sense...most notably why has the proven corrupt thieves of public coffers still retained in the party? Is the ANC leadership confirming that it is less important to betray the voters than its own ideologies...does the ANC admit that it puts itself above the people? I do not agree with Malema's suggested solutions but it is imperative that we realise that the status quo (land issue, widening gap between the rich and poor, taxation, failed and corrupt black empowerment through bee and bbbeee) will only lead to civil strife, even though Mr malema may or may not be hijacking national issues for personal gain it does not make those issues less credible, or him. Bottom line he and those issues are polarising. Perhaps we all should take him seriously, and realise that he has a voice, is a voice, that he has some appeal, maybe not amongst news24 bloggers but let us dipense with the arrogance that we can influence the anc vote or that certain voters are matter than others

      Siyanda - 2011-11-25 06:56

      @Skhanyo. Juju is the last one who can talk about"stolen government money"

      CALAMITYSA - 2011-11-25 06:58

      Skhanyo - The anc stands against corruption - hopefully you too! And a lot others. Then get rid of those who corrupt - like your leader who you are pathetically trying to cover. Corruption is an AFRICAN culture. Stop it.

      theO rAcLe - 2011-11-25 07:28

      You voted for them you savage

      Red - 2011-11-25 07:50

      @Skoli...I mean Skhanyo . You sound like a some what intelligent guy. Innocent until proven guilty is one thing using your own brain to put two and two together is another. Explain to us how JuJu has so much wealth. He has admitted that he has only had one job (career criminal....I mean politician) we also know what his position pays. He could not afford his lavish lifestyle without a lot of support from outside (questionable) sources. Where did all that money come from. The goodness of the hearts of a supportive public? Please. You're not stupid... which leads me to believe that the only other option is that you are such a blinded fanboy that it wouldn't matter if Malema was satan himself you wouldn't see it. You're his sheep, his lapdog.

  • Peter - 2011-11-24 23:30

    @Phuti - Stupid idiot!!!

      Albert - 2011-11-25 07:43

      Phuti,The prophet Zuma said they will govern until Jesus comes.Maybe Malema is just that now that you mention it.He might be the end of you all.

  • Richard - 2011-11-24 23:37

    Hahaha, what a fool. If you are scolded you apologies and do your time, then behind closed doors, stir the pot.... he's obviously to stupid to work that one out. I am curious to know what exam he wrote? Pointing fingers at others is just another sign of his immaturity, and further confirms the decision made was correct. The others he spoke of did not go around yelling about change and dictating to other countries. They simple went with their oath to the constitution and to the public who they represent. They have also earned a place at the top by being respectful of others. Juju when have you ever been respectful of those around you (not including your buddies)?

  • Ryan - 2011-11-24 23:45

    He is right in that its shocking that there are criminals in government

  • Lauren - 2011-11-24 23:46

    So, here's the deal, as I see it....inexperienced warrior of commerce that I am. Julius cries NATIONALISE...mining magnets pull out...State has to FUND mining and PAY mineworkers AND PAY for the running of the mines. We can't afford that right now. Anyway, that being beside the point right now. Government takes said profit and does..what? The same as they do with the rest of parastatels? Jobs are lost. Investment is gone. Oh, I forgot, they are goint to plough it back into service delivery, the same way they do with everything else. M'bad.

  • Nick - 2011-11-24 23:58

    "Ssate"? Do you even have an editor News24? And can whoever typed this not even check their own spelling?

  • Travis - 2011-11-25 00:08

    Skip this article, going to read SciTech...this is crap

  • Smell - 2011-11-25 00:51

    Mr. Mandela and Sisulu were perhaps ahead of their comrades in the ANC at the time. But, in contrast to this Malema character, they were classy, smart and educated men.

  • charmaine.rowlands - 2011-11-25 01:28

    @Maphasa - i'm stunned (maybe i shouldn't be, i've read some horrible stuff on social media today) - that aside, everything that Madiba, Tutu, Sisulu and others fought for, gave their lives for, just got trashed by YOU!! It's people like you who will be the downfall of the Beloved Country. Sleep well dude... one day you will answer, whether you believe or not!!

  • Maphasa - 2011-11-25 02:10

    @Mpho> My point exactly! In fact, Barack Obama extolled the virtues of nationalisation when he said of the world economic downturn; "this crisis has reminded us that without a watchful eye, the market can spin out of control - and that a nation cannot prosper long when it favors only the prosperous". This is where Malema comes in; let the mines benefit all (especially poor) South Africans- not only the Motsepe's, the Oppenheimers and the Ruperts. Even if they silence Malema, thousands of other young people will take the baton, run with the vision and rise up to the occasion. And I'm one of them!

      Mpho - 2011-11-25 02:30

      and i personally think if the DA had propossed the idea white people would be suporting it

      Gareth - 2011-11-25 03:43

      @ Maphasa and Mpho - DO you guys not see the obvious? Do you not see as clear as daylight the charade Malema puts on to enrich himself? I read your words, they clearly come from an educated mind yet you still don't see the obvious. Can you name one, even one successful example of a country going the route of forced land redistribution and nationalising any function into the hands of a absurdly corrupt state? Please, as an educated adult tell me you honestly believe this nonsense will work? Like I have said before something should be done, but your leaders are doing absolutely nothing but telling you what you want to hear and behind closed doors they are robbing you blind. Go ahead and grab land if you think it will work, when you wake up with nothing, not even clothes on your back and you look around and everyone is in the same situation then you can look in the mirror and congratulate yourself on a job well done. Pity you guys see black and white , all white people this all white people that ... its tired, it benefits no one and gets you no closer to a life you might be proud of. To quote your quote - This nation, South Africa, is already only favouring the prosperous. Just so happens the prosperous are the one you voted into power and they are dining out EVERY night on your continued support of the lip service they will continue to feed you for as long as you listen. So take up the baton Maphasa, run with it, the road is a dead end unless you end corruption.

  • Maphasa - 2011-11-25 02:30

    @Charmaine> "feeling" oppressed and "BEING" oppressed are two different things. Again, whether "YOU" were oppressed or you felt oppressed as an individual cannot be independently verified. But, what we all know is that the white race benefited extensively from apartheid; what is beyond dispute is the fact that white people oppressed the blacks as a race for well over 100 years. Rhodes and Kruger made it their policy to screw the people of colour. Verwoed (and I'm not going to check whether I got the spelling right) and Vorster vowed to exterminate the black man. So, don't tell us you "FELT" oppressed when you had freedom of movement, association, ownership and speech. Whether Malema is doing what he does to score political points is an issue for another day; but the 'truth' is that we need someone like him to keep these historical issues alive, lest we forget where we come from

  • Skhanyo - 2011-11-25 02:33

    how I wish people would stop making unfounded accusations about Julius! Even more worse is that the South African constitution states unequivocally that every person is innocent until proven guilty..Is Julius maybe excluded from this right? If so I would then rest my case.. If anyone has some evidence of Juju committing a crime that person must go lay a charge against him! It is simple as that...Shouting that Juju commits crime is not going to help anyone, and you should remember that such actions amounts to defamation of character which is a punishable offence. We all can do better than that...julius is the president of the ANCYL and only those who voted him into power should get to decide if they do not want himm.. My vote belongs the ANC, and I must stress that I will never vote for DA and not even anyone in my family will ever vote for a White-party. History taught me very well about what happens when whites are in government... Sorry folks I am not trying to be racist, but I am just telling the truth

      braamc - 2011-11-25 06:33

      As far as I know he was found guilty, went through a disciplinary procedure, don't know where you have been. Fine to feel either sorry or deserving of his punishment.

      Albert - 2011-11-25 08:34

      Skhanyo,I respect your loyalty to your party,and you would rather vote for a black than a white party.But i am sure you would have voted for a more respectable black party,if there was one.But don`t you think we should stop the racist hate and see what we can do about a place for our children.I can promise you ,we as whites will not leave this country.We are all trying to avert a civil war because we class ourselves as civilized.

  • Brian - 2011-11-25 02:33

    I have watched and read some of the inane banter about the messages from the mouth of Malema, and all the name calling in the commentary. Remember: “Stick and Stones may break my bones, but words will never harm me”. Malema loves the publicity and thrives on the amount of coverage he gets in the media. It is about time that we take Malema seriously!! By this I certainly do not mean take his utterances seriously! What is serious. Is who hears and believes what he says. This is what is serious!! Maybe it is time to talk to Malema, and understand his true motives. Remember the old adage: “Keep your friends close, but our enemies closer” I believe that Malema’s influence on his vast group of followers is far too big to ignore. We need to get closer, and in doing so, maybe there is a small chance that eventually reason will prevail. Like it or not, Malema is not going to go away, and those who want a future for South Africa, need to rally together as reasonable thinking individuals, to find a common solution to satisfy the majority.

      Mpho - 2011-11-25 02:46

      if black people had the same opportunities as white people, trust me the woulndt be a malema and the anc would have been voted out of power long time ago. let me tell you something, last year i went to a cetain airline to do vac work and my job was to watch the planes takes, whilst at the same time the was a white male(same university and same year) and he was given real work it and could therefore write a proper report. made me realise that white people still hate

  • Digger - 2011-11-25 03:01

    @ Maphasa and Skhany it’s people like you that will pull SA down to the level of all other African countries. Yes you will then keep blaming your failures on the whites and you will continue to raise your kid’s to do the same….and so the circle continues. The fact of the matter is without us bad whites you would still be living in the bush, serving one master (The King) with no rights of your own other than his will. You wouldn’t have a vote, freedom of speech or the freedom to choose your own path in life. Yes, check your own African history out and then tell me how better off you all were before we arrived. Yes things weren’t perfect, but they have changed now let’s not mess it all up shall we and try find a balance. Just keep in mind that just about everything you have, from the PC you are using, car, TV, electricity, running water, toilets, roads, schools, hospitals…….the list is endless, was introduced to you by these very same whites that you resent. Now that you are all part of this, why not put your efforts in contributing to the world and improving on what’s already there, instead of breaking it down. Everything is about blaming, finding excuses, hate, taking for free and that’s not what it’s about. You want a farm, then get off your ass, buy a piece of land prepare it from scratch and create one, or no….you what one that’s already finished and all you need to do is walk around saying it’s now mine? Pathetic.

      Maphasa - 2011-11-25 03:56

      @Digger> we are saying the same thing, my brother. South Africa is where it is today because one race oppressed the other. It's the same thing with Britain and the United States; negroes toiled day and night building factories and railways for approximately two centuries. In fact, the world is where it is today because one race screwed the other. This is the fulcrum around which the 99% movement is organised; it is the fact that inspired Marxism and such other anti-oppression ideologies. Be that as your people oppressed my people to produce the South Africa we have now, we cannot allow white supremacy to continue, either in its old form or the new subtle forms. We cant allow your people to exploit my forefathers and let you guys continue to screw us. Haven't you had enough? Aren't your bellies full? Haven't you made enough mockery of the black man? The fact that white people brought "development" to Africa is subject to philosophical (not scientific) debate. The notion that we would still be living in the bush is a teleological illusion that white people perpetuated for decades. It's a progeny of the flawed modernization logic that development proceeds in a linear fashion, and that there is only one path to "development". Regard me to tell you that development is a goal,a condition and a process. We were developed, we were developing and we aspired to develop before your people got here

      Gareth - 2011-11-25 04:25

      @Maphasa - To look historically may serve a small purpose, mostly in how not to be. It serves no purpose in settling the current debate, which it would appear is "I’m black, pissed off that I don't seem to have an equal opportunity and you, the white man, well I’m coming to get your stuff" and conversely "I’m white, I worked for my stuff, I wasn’t given it, go and get your own". Unfortunately though neither of those two points of view work well. Yes I am white, I worked for my stuff, but if my parents had lived through apartheid as black parents there is a strong chance I would have no stuff and be equally pissed at those who appeared to benefit unfairly. Like it or not, that is how it is, you can shout, scream, fight, beat the snot out of everyone it will do little to change the fact. Even more disconcerting is that when given the chance, your elected leaders have opted for ensuring their pockets are lined until they can fit no more, then they will line those they consider family, then perhaps friends and that is as far as the concern goes. So effectively they then need to give you a avenue for your anger and what better avenue that "Screw You Whitey Street". So they lace your ideas with the views you are where you are because of me and the only way up is through me, by god don't suggest with me, because if they did that they would have to lose their stuff... and they just, just, just stole it and aren't quite ready to give it up. It is nice stuff, much better than mine ...

      Gareth - 2011-11-25 04:25

      ... actually infinitely better than mine. If you decided, wait hang on, this white guy isn’t to blame, I am to blame because I think it’s ok that my leaders are giving me nonsense to feed on while they steal my real food, my real opportunity and any chance of real success. I have no problem with equal opportunity; it’s disgusting to even argue otherwise. However what you just can’t seem to see is it is not me, this white guy stopping you from having it, it is the fact that your leaders are so intensely busy getting rich they just don’t have time for silly little things like your problems. On face value, they certainly do talk an amazing game, they really do, you have to admire there unwilting dedication to lies. If you carry on blaming me, and I carry on telling you to get on with it, make a life etc. then no problems are solved. If we work together then that is a very different story, the point is to seek out those preventing this from happening, both white and black, Indian and coloured, whoever is preventing us from being a collaboration and extinguish their flame. Unfortunately that would mean putting an end to Melema's lifestyle; it would also mean having to address the white equivalent. QUESTION IS : Are you ready to do that? I am ready for it but certainly won’t be joining anyone who isn’t 100% committed to that purpose.

      Maphasa - 2011-11-25 05:07

      @Beastley> I agree. In fact this is the argument Sampie Tereblanche has made in several of his writings, ....which I absolutely agree with. And I must say that I'm happy to hear one honest white person admitting publicly that he benefited from the apartheid system. What infuriates many black South Africans is a group of white people who will stand on a podium and tell us they never "personally" benefited from apartheid or that they also "FELT" oppressed by the system. These excuses undermine the oppression that a black man endured for more than 100 years. It also angers us to hear a white man who had ample economic and political resources to study at Bishops Court and UCT making fun of a black Fort Hare graduate when the latter makes grammatical mistakes or when he can't speak intelligently on a certain issue. South Africa needs more Beastleys and less Charmaines and Roberts!

      pws69 - 2011-11-25 06:51

      Maphasa, Ethiopia was never colonised, nor was liberia. What do their countries and economies look like today? Your response?

  • braamc - 2011-11-25 05:56

    Yes Juliass, they are riddled with theft and corruption, as you know and partake, it is ill mannered organisation with no intention serving the people. So fatboy, rather enjoy sushi, your gravy in the train is over!

  • Deeteem - 2011-11-25 06:13

    There is always a free, non returnable trip to zim where you will be with another a&&hole !!

  • christo.brits1 - 2011-11-25 06:27

    You are not a youth Malema!!!

  • pws69 - 2011-11-25 06:45

    Sing like a canary Malema, sing like a canary. We know you have a little black book on all the dirty deeds of the ANC. The monster is starting to devour itself. I'm loving it!

      Gerhard Uys - 2011-11-25 06:49

      Thanks buddy this comment made my day! So true!

  • CALAMITYSA - 2011-11-25 06:51

    1 : "They also openly talked about why they had defied the party". 2 : "The discipline of the ANC" 3 : "He said on the other side the party had people who lied to the state president, stole government money and went to visit girlfriends in prisons" About 1 : Be proud of them - they think! If it was not forced a lot more would have voted against. They are afraid of losing their jobs - and opportunities to corrupt. About 2 : The discipline of the ANC is now showing for the first time. It should have been done 2/3 years ago. It just became too much - with the ANCI(Ignorants)YL leading. About 3: Now realising that corruption is party culture and the world is not only losing trust in the government - they are LAUGHING at you. Shouldn't have been ABLE to happen. Wake up and leave. It might just put the ANC(CORRUPT)C in a LITTLE more hopeful light. We will keep hoping - that the ANCC might learn something and that the voters may SEE and vote for a stronger opposition. A lot are talking - they must now start ACTING.

  • Aggrey - 2011-11-25 06:52

    Because South Africans have lived in the dark for a long time, they fail to see clearly that Malema is insinuating total onslaught on the State. He must be stopped the reason being that once the criminals start killing, they will be unstoppable. why not jail him for sedition.South African democracy is invalidated by allowing such dunderheads to confuse the nation. Tokyo is becoming an idiot by supporting these wrongs.

  • morganpiek - 2011-11-25 07:03

    Empty vessels make the most noise...

  • Elle-Black - 2011-11-25 07:12

    I do agree with one thing though,people who have been found guilty of misconduct should not remain MP's ( I'm not talking about not voting on the bill , I'm talking about misuse of public funds)

  • Richard - 2011-11-25 07:40

    Ag please, do these guys really think that the mother body is going to submit to them and their radical ideas. Dream on!

  • Serame - 2011-11-25 07:58

    Zuma's leadership qualities on the fence 4 de whole world to see..He realy hasnt shown any consistence..He owes a lot of people favours thus he's surrounded himself with shady characters..Ie Schabir Shaik,Cele,Guptas,and now questionable Spokesperson Mac Maharaj..mmmmmmm...Time never lies

  • Nikki Bodenstein - 2011-11-26 06:17

    Go away Malema! Nobody cares what you have to say

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