Malema hearings affecting ANCYL

2012-01-22 15:34

Johannesburg - The disciplinary hearing against embattled youth leader Julius Malema could have long term negative effects on ANC Youth League, the Gauteng branch of the league said on Sunday.

ANCYL regional chair Lebogang Maile said the disciplinary process was affecting the league's capacity to discuss important political issues because its leadership were focused on their hearings.

"There is the potential for the youth league to become toothless and useless. Members could become scared to speculate and speak on certain issues," he told reporters in Johannesburg.

Maile said the league would not hold a demonstration ahead of Malema's appeal hearing on Monday.

"We wish the leadership well and we hope that the DC [disciplinary committee] rules in their favour," he said.

"We can't comment [on the hearings] in detail because that is a sign of ill-discipline. As an organisation we will be able to sit and discuss the outcome, whatever it is," he said.

'Populist' statements

Maile said the leadership of the ruling party had to avoid making "populist" statements in public.

"We call on leaders to avoid making reckless statements. Leaders have a responsibility to comment positively on issues."

Maile denied that he was referring to ANC treasurer Mathews Phosa's recent comments on Malema's disciplinary hearing.

"This is a general statement. We are not for or against this or that leader. We support the ANC, not individuals. Individuals will come and go, but the ANC will always remain," he said.

Maile said the provincial executive committee (PEC) discussed the hearing, as well as the possibility of a succession debate within the party, at its first meeting for the year.

"The issue of leadership seems to be the principal pre-occupation over policy," he said.

"We would like to appeal to the leadership of the ANC to open this debate... This will go a long way in curbing the tendency of factionalism and anarchy that will destroy our glorious movement if left unattended and [which is] featuring most in the media."


Maile said Cabinet and the National Treasury's recent intervention into alleged financial maladministation in Limpopo needed to be pro-active and not "a public relations exercise".

"Often, unauthorised expenditure does not mean that there was corruption. Here in Gauteng there is R6bn in unauthorised expenditure, but this might be because a hospital needed a machine, and someone made a decision to get it without there being a tender process," he said.

"In Gauteng the population is growing. It could be the case where KwaZulu-Natal might be allocated more money because of rural peoples.

"But those rural people come here [to work]. There needs to be a review on how resources are allocated."

Maile said the league was calling on government to scrap the process of tenders because it was a source of corruption and conflict within the party.

"The state needs to create opportunity for itself. There are instances of a lot of wastage -- that money can be used to invest in internal ways to create more jobs," he said.

"Business people need to sweat and work hard for money. We don't want to have instant millionaires because of [people] having friends in departments."

  • bernpm - 2012-01-22 15:44

    "There is the potential for the youth league to become toothless and useless"......If you cannot control your over aged leader your ANCYL will become useless. The ANC DC will then have no option then to make it toothless

      Spyker - 2012-01-22 16:28

      "...toothless and useless...", as opposed to being braindead and useless - I would say the initial will serve the **YUF far better. ** - For the benefit of a international audience - definition of "yuf" = a being in the body of a fat middle-aged person, with the cognitive capacity of a toddler. "...Members could become scared to speculate and speak on certain issues..." The YUF should absolutely be scared "speculate and speak" - you need functioning cerebral reasoning (evidently no such words in Pedi) to do dat ting... "...Often (note - "often", not eg 'sometimes'), unauthorised expenditure does not mean that there was corruption..." I was about to fall off my chair, but then I realised this is post '94 SA and "unauthorised expenditure" is in fact a fundamental ANC requisite. "...government (must) scrap the process of tenders because it was a source of corruption and conflict..." Yuuueees.., scrappa da tendurs, she makes two metch trooble - peeple want no 'PROCESS' - dis ting she iz not in my peeles culture. If you need da 'machine', just call a comrade, she will just transformation it from da white people, no need for da corruption and conflict tendencies anymore - simpil... "...The state needs to create opportunity for itself..." But that is very easy - eg, you take white people's money - sometimes incorrectly called 'tax' - and put it straight into your pocket, then you make more laws to take more money from white people and still incorrectly call it 'tax'.

      Alfred - 2012-01-23 01:55

      Spyker, I just laughed a yogi sip through my nose reading that. Best comment I've read on News24 in months, nicely done!

      Mike - 2012-01-23 08:00

      "to discuss important political issues .." Does that include toy-toying, screaming and throwing chairs at each other? The day the ancyl can sit down and "discuss" issues like adults will be a miracle!!

  • Hunter - 2012-01-22 16:01

    "Business people need to sweat and work hard for money. We don't want to have instant millionaires because of [people] having friends in departments." Said in the same breath as expressing the hope that the DC will decide in JuJu's favour. Has JuJu sweat and worked hard for his money? Do these guys think, and write a few notes, before they talk to the media. The other quotes about the unauthorised spending in Guateng does not really make sense either.

      Juan - 2012-01-22 16:55

      Business people need to sweat and work hard for money. We don't want to have instant millionaires because of [people] having friends in departments." Yes what they say must be correct. I mean anyone can afford multimillion rand properties on a R20 000 per month salary. They are really insulting our intelligence.

  • Chumscrubber1 - 2012-01-22 16:06

    The only contribution the ANCYL makes is negative anyway, so who cares. Its an irrelevant organisation that manipulates youth of this country into a negative mindset, in order to achieve the dubious political ambitions of its leaders. The youth do not receive anything positive from this organisation. It just teaches them to carry on littering, thats how much they love "their" country, treat it like a dustbin.

      teboho.tsoku1 - 2012-01-23 15:15

      the anc yl is here to stay for a long time in SA politics. they are champions of youth struggle. You tend to confuse individuals within anc yl with the organisation.The organisation will survive.

  • Piet - 2012-01-22 16:09

    Outlaw this bunch of criminals. Satan gave birth to a demon, now raise it...

  • Larry - 2012-01-22 16:16

    Should read "Malema and cronies affecting ANCYL". He is like a virus that is difficult to get rid of,

  • Alex - 2012-01-22 16:23

    The effects of Limpopo will last a little longer.

  • Arnold - 2012-01-22 16:38

    Often, unauthorised expenditure does not mean that there was corruption. Here in Gauteng there is R6bn in unauthorised expenditure, but this might be because a hospital needed a machine, and someone made a decision to get it without there being a tender process," he said. Wow, these guys do not have an inkling...a machine or 2 and 6bn goes out the window...f&%king idiots of note

      Thuthukile Madlabane - 2012-01-22 17:38

      i totally agree with you my man, how can they spend so much on unauthorized expenditure and yet spend little on more serious matters like the Limpopo state affairs when it comes to education and the like.

      Pur - 2012-01-23 07:39

      Yeah. A hospital needs a machine. Manufacturer produces and sells for maybe R1 million, but state buys it from another business owned by some ministers wife for R1 billion, without a tender... No corruption. Just "unauthorised expenditure" in a perfectly legitimate business deal with a willing buyer and a willing seller. They are now so crooked they don't even know what straight is any more.

  • pws69 - 2012-01-22 16:58

    Shame, and we care because? Access to tenders starting to dry up? Freeby trips all over the world drying up? Payments for influence drying up? Multi million rand lotto payments for kissing contests drying up? Boohoo, I'm crying crocodile tears. Besides, the ANCYL is already useless and toothless. Have been for some time now.

  • Max - 2012-01-22 17:11

    The ANC normally does exactly the oposite of what they say in the media, I am getting worried that Malema is going to get out of these hearings even stronger than before. That will be the last straw and the end of any reconciliation in the country.

  • ISO - 2012-01-22 17:40

    I bid you farewell Malema, but most of all GOODBYE! Your comrads can say what they want, never the less your days are counted for. Your future will be seen behide bars! The current ANCYL is useless, anyway children should be seen not heard!

      Archie - 2012-01-23 08:51

      He is not a child but a very dangerous moron who found the honeypot in limpoopoo and wont let go because all his ill gotten gains will be exposed if he loses his power base and Cassel will go down with him.Its not the fact that he will spend a month in hospital before being declared unfit to go to jail that worries him ,he wants to hold onto his honeypot.

  • Sinudeity - 2012-01-22 17:47

    What do the ANCYL do anyways?

      ISO - 2012-01-22 17:57

      i cant think of anything, because there isnt anything they have done for the youth or the country!

      Travis Vermaak - 2012-01-23 07:16

      Never heard of anything positive they have done, all the news from them is scandal and demands.

      Spyker - 2012-01-23 09:32

      What do the ANCYL do anyways? Come on, be serious - they are very busy; they are engaged in the "STRUGGLE" - the 'struggle' to think...

  • Hector - 2012-01-22 18:07

    HAHAHA none so blind as those that do not wish to see... You morons are the reason the ANCYL is becoming/has become useless.

  • Mike Bosman - 2012-01-22 18:11

    The anc is useless whats the first thing they did. The arms deal massive loot to dodgy pockets. The youth league just waiting for the train to stop.

  • Thuthukile Madlabane - 2012-01-22 18:14

    Maile must have been out of his mind when he was talking about an unauthorised expenditure of R6bn, does he mean that one in politics can just spend money like that and not be referred as corruption. Isn't the state suppose to know when to use money and when not to use money? So as to avoid overspending. And oh year when he was talking about 'instant millionaires' of politicians put into power, we've seen such things happen many times and such politicians do not care about the people, they just exploit them promising to do things for them while in truth they want to be voted back into power for making money. Politics is now seen as money making by hypocrites as those in ANC.

      pws69 - 2012-01-22 18:47

      Blow R6 BILLION of taxpayers money without accounting for it, and it is all fine. Misplace just one invoice for R1000 in a VAT audit, and SARS treat you like a criminal, public enemy number one. Two sets of rules, one for the piggies at the trough, and another for the rest of us.

      Spyker - 2012-01-23 09:55

      Good post Thuthukile.., Their fetid hypocrisy is only outdone by their greed to exploit their own people. These vile charlatans hide behind a mask of supposed "concern about corruption", it is little more than a charade, they themselves are the 'devil himself' - stealing from the 'sick and the poor'. Maile is another high-school drop-out, riding the 'gravy-train' of swindled tax-payers money and tenderpreneuring (like eg the other two Zuma's). While SA must certainly have created some of the highest instances of 'instant' millionaires since '94 - all riding a collection of cars worth multi-millions, with houses worth a hundred times that, living a life-style 95% of people can only dream of, SA has legitimately got one of the worst education systems in the world...

  • Nqabeni Thabede - 2012-01-22 18:53

    Very positive i wish the author meant it

  • Gregory Jurgens - 2012-01-23 05:37

    Yeah sit and discuss stuff. Throw a few bricks and burn some stuff while you at it.

  • Archie - 2012-01-23 08:42

    What machine does a hospital buy for 6 billion ? Only the youf league will know, idiot!

  • Matthew - 2012-01-23 09:38

    Maile actually sounds like the most intellegent individual in the Youth league at the moment?

      Spyker - 2012-01-23 09:57

      He is another high-school drop-out...

  • Gail - 2012-01-23 13:08

    The demise of the youth league can't come soon enough for me and millions of others who are starving and don't live like THOSE POLITICAL UPSTARTS WHO CONSIDER THEMSELVES YOUTHS IN TRAINING AND WASTE TAXPAYERS MONEY ON STUPID CONFERENCES AND RIDICULOUS MARCHES.

      teboho.tsoku1 - 2012-01-23 15:06

      the anc yl is here to stay, but individuals who disobey anc rules will go. The anc yl does not organise conferences with tax payers monies, that illogical of you.

  • Gail - 2012-01-23 13:12

    You know the ANCYL and their parent body do not need cartoonists to send them up. Everytime they open their mouths they say something bordering on farce that makes me laugh. I thought toothless was a fashion statement in certain cultures?

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