Malema says ANCYL traumatised by Zuma

2012-03-30 22:23

Johannesburg - The ANC Youth League was being traumatised and suppressed under President Jacob Zuma's leadership, expelled league president Julius Malema said on Friday.

"Under President Zuma, we've seen the youth of the ANC being traumatised and expelled from their home," said a fired-up Malema during an ANC centenary lecture in Johannesburg.

With his voice gradually intensifying in volume, Malema said Zuma's leadership had suppressed the voice of the youth and replaced democracy with dictatorship.

"We've seen intolerance. People are impatient with the youth, people do not appreciate new opinions. They suppress new opinions," he said to thunderous applause from a packed hall at Wits University.

Malema said opinions by youth league leadership were possibly seen as a threat by the mother body.

"Those are our observations. It cannot be entirely correct. Other people can differ," he said.

Drawing ANC treasurer Mathews Phosa's attention, Malema said it was nothing personal but that leadership must accept criticism.

"We must be honest and not pretend. We must give a true reflection of what's happening," he said.

"If you want to be pretenders, then you have chosen the wrong career."

Malema said leadership must always welcome criticism because that built them into strong leaders.

"Beware comrade Mathews, when people stop criticising you, you must worry. But when they criticise you, it means they care."

Malema, who is appealing his expulsion with the ANC's national disciplinary committee of appeal chaired by Cyril Ramaphosa, questioned the logic behind disciplinary procedures instituted against him and other league leaders.

"What is so ill-disciplined about thinking? Lets debate that. You've got the right to think even if we think of wrong things," he said.

"You need no permission to think, you are born with it. It's your birthright and your own baby to nurse."

Malema charged that the league could not be punished for thinking.

While the league had made pronouncements on toppling Botswana's government, it did not act on it.

It was just a thought, he said, adding that the leadership of the African National Congress was expected to call them to order instead of disciplining them.

Malema was found guilty of sowing divisions within the party, partly for his statement on Botswana.

Phosa, who sat listening to Malema attacking Zuma's leadership, had arrived with Malema an hour late to much excitement at the Wits University's Great Hall.

He replaced national executive committee member and Sport Minister Fikile Mbalula who cancelled due to other commitments.

Malema praised Phosa for not treating the youth league "like those who think we have political leprosy".

"People are scared to associate with us. So when someone from leadership comes when requested, it inspires hope," he said.

"It tells us not all is lost and that we still have courageous leadership."

Some students were restricted from entering the Great Hall as it was filled to capacity.

The turned-away group of students were directed to the foyer where they could watch through monitors mounted to the walls.

Earlier, youth league supporters sang and danced and sang struggle songs as they waited.

Some songs were in support of Malema, with some mocking Zuma as "troublesome shower man" and ANC secretary general Gwede Mantashe as the "troublesome goatee".

The league has continuously voiced their preference for Deputy President Kgalema Motlanthe to replace Zuma and Mbalula to replace Mantashe.

  • Lacrimose - 2012-03-30 22:57

    One of Aesop's fables (good reading for all who have missed them) called "the boy who cried wolf". First Mbeki was the wolf, now JZ is the wolf. We could put Mandela back in power (or someone of his spirit/ethos) and JM would still cry wolf. Here is a child who has finally discovered that his gods have feet of clay. That they are mere mortals. That their houses are built on sand. JM IS the Achilles of the ANC's house of cards. ANC convinced countless generations to sacrifice their present for a shiny, bright future. It ain't gonna happen - or it's going to happen in a very different way. The world's moved on. The sad, sad thing is that someone of JM's generation, with all he has access to, still hasn't awakened to where we are; 2012. The whole world's unemployed, the whole world's battling with housing, water, food, jobs. You're no longer special just for being a black South African. The whole world is tired of your wolf cries and 200yr old ideas.

      Jayson - 2012-03-30 23:29

      @lacrimose. Wow. I'm impressed. So well put. Excellent. I had to read it three time's to get the full value of it. Good writing. And well put.

      Jayson - 2012-03-30 23:29

      @lacrimose. Wow. I'm impressed. So well put. Excellent. I had to read it three time's to get the full value of it. Good writing. And well put.

      Jayson - 2012-03-30 23:36

      Sorry. Sometimes you post a comment. And it comes out twice. Still a brilliant piece of writing.

      Judith - 2012-03-31 10:21

      @lacrimose: great comment but I think you meant to say "Achille's heel' Achille was an athlete god, I think, and his weakness was in what is now called the Achille's tendon which runs behind the leg into the heel. You only have to cut this tendon and you have disabled the athlete.

      Dawn - 2012-03-31 14:31

      @Lacrimose..that was well put...nothing has's true

      Smell - 2012-03-31 18:43

      Malema is completely missing the point - the little set of "ideas" he espouses is not new at all. It is the same tired, idiotic ideology that has resulted in virtually the entire Africa sinking into increased poverty since the fires of the uhuru in the 1960s. He is a big-mouthed fool with old ideas. Why do Africans always end up fleeing from countries where the so-called "African agenda" has been implemented. The so-called African agenda seems to be effective in taking away from the drivers of the economy, food producers and providers of infrastructure, and fails absolutely in delivering anything substantial to the poor except increased hunger, crumbling infrastructure and the collapse of decent health care. Mr. Zuma is wiser and more benevolent than many people realize. He does make mistakes, like everyone else, but South Africa is a very difficult country to govern to the satisfaction of all. The majority of voters is desperately poor and impatient. Many South Africans are not getting Mr. Zuma enough credit. And I will remind you of that fact when his eventual successor proves to be someone like Malema.

  • lavida.locca - 2012-03-30 23:00

    Juju Mzansi youth is behind u... if u hate Malema its....ur just playing ur position....

      Kolobe - 2012-03-31 08:58

      ancyl is going to liberate this country from struggle heroes

      Frank - 2012-03-31 09:50

      Kolobe, so how many times do you want to "libberate" this country in our lifetime? Why don't you make a wise decision to start with and kick all the idiots, Juli-ass included, to the gutter and vote with your mind!

      Warren - 2012-04-01 02:44

      @Frank...Let Africans make their own decisions...who ever they vote for is none of your business , isn't that the democracy you claim to have brought to the continent?...what a hypocrite..its a pity!!.

  • Fourhundredkg - 2012-03-30 23:08

    Juju,keep it up boytjie! Da whiteys need your help destroying the ANC!

      Vusi - 2012-03-30 23:24

      LOL LOL LOL The best comment on here by far!

      Patiwe - 2012-03-30 23:51

      You should encourage the president of the ANC, the way I look at it is that when he goes down, there is nothing left of the ANC. Polokwane was the big mistake.

      Vusi - 2012-03-31 00:02

      @Patiwe. The ANC will survive Zuma. Within the ANC there are far better and far more educated choices for leadership. Our problem is the fact that a freedom fighter doesn't necessarily make a good politician. The fiscal mess we find ourselves in is testament to that. We need to elect the experts within the ANC to run the ministerial portfolios and stop electing friends and relatives.

      Patiwe - 2012-03-31 00:30

      @Vusi, Yes it will survive at a cost. The ANC of today is not trustworthy at all. Look at the way he instill fear to those who oppose his second term and the laws that are being enacted. Soon we won't be able to coment and speak our mind on issues we don't like about the goveernment. Look at what is happening within the security cluster, the justice, governance and many more. I'm losing hope everyday. Lot of people with good qualification are unable to secure jobs because they do not know that person who hold the purse strings of the state even if you are in business. The next seven and a half years or two and a half yars if we are lucky are too much of a long time with the president we have got.

      Vusi - 2012-03-31 00:38

      I agree 100% Patiwe. You have hit the nail on the head. All I am saying Malema is not our future leader. You simply can't be part of R400 Million tenders and then run around pretending you are fighting for the poor.

      siyadyosiba - 2012-03-31 02:37

      ....and Mbeki is sitting in his small corner giggling and saying..... I AM AN AFRICAN #in mbeki voice#

      John - 2012-03-31 05:13

      @Vusi. "The fiscal mess we find ourselves in is testament to that." SA as a whole is not in a fiscal mess if you go by the World Bank and International Monetary Fund, we are ranked 25th and 24th respectively "", which is another reason why China has set it's sights and ambitions clearly on us. Our internal fiscal mess we find ourselves in is due to theft and corruption, which is depriving our citizens their basic human rights. The ANC needs to do as you say. Have responsible experts in the various ministerial portfolios.

      Warren - 2012-04-01 03:16

      @JohnB-That table you referred to measure the GDP of each country and it does not show the true size of the economy taking into consideration unemployed numbers and poverty. Y not use income per capita could give you a true picture of your economy and standard of living.A higher GDP value is often determined by the population number and it does not mean RSA is the 25th richest economy or India is the 4th largest you think RSA is better off than Sweden ,Malaysia, Switzerland and Norway..probably in the number of townships ?...Bwaaah.aah.aah..

  • Ian - 2012-03-30 23:38

    MK needs to start drilling some holes here.

      Patiwe - 2012-03-30 23:45

      Mhhh... condoning murder. I wonder what is your thought about the centurion murder.

  • Ma-role - 2012-03-30 23:57

    There is so much positives aspects Malema mentioned Indeed our media is in the hands of those who do not seek progress in the ANC therefore you just citing this issues you feel will evoke unnecessary debate. This is poor journalism, what was the event about? What did Phosa say? You focusing on issues that do not really concern you. Malema spoke the truth with regard to the poor suffering, economic freedom, leadership but hey continue trying to taint society Media 24 and we are very much aware hence it is only the minority that will give biased insulting comments. ECONOMIC FREEDOM IN OUR LIFETIME away WITH RACIAL INEQUALITY. Economic Transformation is what this country needs, even if JUJU is to go down he would have made his point N we will keep up the Economic Freedom. Sizabazeli lizwe lo khokho bethu.

      Patiwe - 2012-03-31 00:06

      I wish this promise can be kept. The gap had widened a lot quicker and the employment escalated. Thesr are the real issues raised by Juju and no one engage on them other than his expulsion. Mawungayekwa lomzabalazo kuba amaqhawe okwenene omzabalazo yeyona nto ayeyilwela.

      Ma-role - 2012-03-31 00:10

      And platforms such as this once that hide behind Mandela and claim to to want trasformation while taunting our leaders well we are aware of this and we'll not let you do that. I mean why sideline issues spoken about. THE MANDATE WILL ALWAYS BE CLEAR

      Patiwe - 2012-03-31 00:18

      The reason is because they are leaders for their own and families, anyone who has the aspirations of the downtroden is vilified. I understand when Juju say their pronouncements had upset the big business and gave order to the ANC to silence Juju. But not knowing that the voice had been heard already. As the youth we need to rise from the pain of hunger and poverty we are subjected to by thepeople who are supposed to liberate us.

      Vusi - 2012-03-31 00:26

      Let me sit down and help you Ladies understand our real problems and not the stuff Malema is shouting all day long. For us to address the unemployment issue we need to encourage manufacturing in this country. We can't allow the Chinese to sell all their manufactured goods here, it is killing our people. There is no benefit in nationalising the mines. They already employ hundreds of thousands of people and the wealth of the mine will never be shared amongst us. Think about what happened to Aurora mine and then apply some wisdom to the nationalisation debate. Ma-role you speak of Racial Inequality......I'm not experiencing any of that. You need to ask yourself who you voted for. If you voted for the ANC then you must blame yourself for the problems you are experiencing because you voted for the so-called Inequality. The ANC creates it with all the corruption and nepotism. We have to be very careful when we follow uneducated people like Malema that doesn't understand how the economy functions. We could create our own death.

      Patiwe - 2012-03-31 00:43

      @Vusi you need help as well. When the debate was brought up by the youth league it was not the finality of the issue, hence the ANC went out of it's way and commissioned a study about "WHAT CAN THE STATE DO TO EXTRACT MORE VALUE OUT OF THE MINING SECTOR?" I understand the propaganda that was pushed by the big business so as to preserve their the seaeus quo as it is to their benefit. Aurora was a disaster you can not use that as it was deemed an unprofitable mine and they took a risk with the hope of getting support from a company from China. They backed off when they realised that realy this mine is not profitable. Voting is an individual choice. Which political party that you may suggest I vote for next time when ellections come?

      Patiwe - 2012-03-31 00:47

      oops " status quo"

      Vusi - 2012-03-31 00:53

      Patiwe, you need to vote for any other party BUT the ANC. It is not about the party you vote for, but more importantly to create an opposition. Until we have a viable opposition party the ANC will continue to traet us like voting fodder. If we start understanding the magic of our democratic vote, we will create the country we all desire. At this given time our freedom has become nothing else but a Grand Scale Theft of the old freedom fighters. We deserve better! You are right about Aurora, except that the directors knew that from the start and stripped the mine and ran off with the money.

      Vusi - 2012-03-31 01:07

      Patiwe it so nice to debate the issues with an intelligent girl who has an opinion! I really enjoyed this debate with you and may you sleep well.

      Patiwe - 2012-03-31 01:14

      @Vusi, the question of a credible opposition lies with the poliyical parties that exist, I will move your argument further by saying "all political parties should sweat for each and every vote" the anc is corrupt yes we all know that. Try get the message to the voting fodder in our rural areas and see. BTW we lack alternatives as the electorate that we can trust.

      John - 2012-03-31 07:02

      @Ma-role, you're another one bleating about ECONOMIC FREEDOM IN OUR LIFETIME, now I've asked this question from you bleaters before, what is your idea of economic freedom? Please tell me! Because the way I see it economic freedom has always been here in SA, we're not quite a communist state yet. Does your idea of EF entail getting everything for free? You and your ilk must get up off your lazy asses and exploit the EF all around you. The fact that you are the Sales Manager at Micampus magazine tells me that you already knew that but it's in your makeup to holler about nothing as usual.

      John - 2012-03-31 07:07

      @Ma-role, sorry I forgot to add, it seems like you have gender problems from your avatar. Come to Thailand I can recommend several great clinics to help you for only R10grand.

      Kolobe - 2012-03-31 09:01

      ma-role your are very much on point

      Thami - 2012-03-31 10:15

      @Ma-role you have a point, so is the message by Malema. @JohnB you have a point too. South Africa is "Alive with possibilities" its up to each and everyone of us to take up those opportunities. We need to exploit what we good at. For example, blacks excel at stockvel's, why don't we have a corporative bank that focusses on investing in black business, turning unproductive land in our hands into productive projects that create jobs. Last year there was R43bn saved in stockvels. What did that money achieve? Bought nice furniture, food for christmas, nice clothes, etc? We need to change our consumer mentality and really start building assets. We certainly don't need the political parties to do that, the government has created the policies and platforms, do we expect them to hold our hands as well?

      Thami - 2012-03-31 10:24

      To the professionals/emerging middle class, stop taking your appointment letter to a car dealer to buy a flashy car before you even see your first salary. Stop wasting money on flashy branded clothes. To my brothers and sisters ekasi, it doesn't make sense that you take your hard earned cash to buy expensive carvellas, who are you enriching? Certainly not yourselves.

      Jacqui - 2012-03-31 12:35

      JohnB, your comment about gender is uncalled for.Thailand deserves better expats.

  • Mirrorman - 2012-03-31 00:39

    Traumatised by Zuma??? Now I've heard everything! Ag shame!

  • Nkuna Andries - 2012-03-31 00:43

    Give a dog a rope to hang its self.Juju were is your critical thinking.

      Patiwe - 2012-03-31 00:48

      I don't understand your metaphor of a dog.

  • Hummy - 2012-03-31 02:01

    Keep on soildering juju, ANC please do something i see a big problem comming.

  • Anele - 2012-03-31 02:18

    lelizwe yelakho nawe juju!

  • siyadyosiba - 2012-03-31 02:42

    Why dont you just go and look after cattle as you promised in dawn? Now its the dusk you leaving your promise. You are loaded after all.

  • Arthur - 2012-03-31 02:51

    "... other people can differ" and just before that "... to thunderous applause" and just before that "... dictatorship". Anyone who doesn't realise the bipolar lunacy of this megatard should be expelled from the gene pool before we all turn into Sushi weilding wannabes with nothing but perverted ramblings of poverty and bling blah blah billion Rand bashes reminiscent of Gold Standards twisted by media and the weak willed keyboard warriors of today. I could say "Off with his head!" but I won't because it's pointless, there are ten others to fight over his seat at the table where all the other piggies froth over the stupidity of the general public. I'm alright Jack, I see your game, I call your bluff, I continue with life and for me, that is... enough.

  • Lucastra.khezz - 2012-03-31 04:03

    Malema is right,let the youth lead the nation.Why do politicians dont retire at 60 like other workers?

      Bahle Mathe - 2012-03-31 06:12

      Then Life would be boring there would be no Mugabe's

  • thulani.sparks - 2012-03-31 04:09

    I'm worried about University students who are actually listening to doesn't look bright for our future if those kids instead of spending time working on their calculus,theorems,thesis,liquidation accounts,computer programs or whatever the case myb-they decide to listen to MALEMA wow!!!as much as its a weekend...but going fishing wud hv been more productive to these young minds!!!And wt do we say to Matthews Phosa???Somehow its a worry 4 Zuma I guess that only Mantashe seems to be publicly in his corner in the top 6 of the ANC...Kgalema and Phosa r Malemanites.....Mbete will never commit while Modise well heaven knows wts going on in that ladies head!!!...Zuma could b unseated in Manguang...I wonder who will b nxt to milk our country 4 Millions...!!! Maybe u ppl here must vote 4 me!!!

      Lucastra.khezz - 2012-03-31 04:29

      Not every1 goes to University to study accounting and calculus...ANCYL deputy president holds an MBA(LLB) and he`s a fully qualified lawyer.Zuma is abusing the freedom of youth and very scared of it.Malema is fully right with is saying,yes,Zuma has traumatised ANCYL.

      Collen - 2012-03-31 04:32

      It is simply because you are an idiot...hall fill to capacity and 99.9 percent of those students are more intelligent than you. Who are you trying to impress?

      thulani.sparks - 2012-03-31 04:35

      @Lucastra.khezz...I see its still early in the morning mate...your hasn't kicked off yet!!!Can I quote from what I said:" if those kids instead of spending time working on their calculus,theorems,thesis,liquidation accounts,computer programs or whatever the case myb" Highlight "OR WHATEVER THE CASE MYB"...this line includes everything else which I ddnt list in my comment (including ur LLB,Sports Management,Drama,Music,Medicine,Social work)..its serves the same purpose as saying ETC!!!..or would u rather I list each and every course offered in the University??_You IDIOT

      Lucastra.khezz - 2012-03-31 04:37

      Collen,i`m more intellegent than u and ur whole family combined,just shut ur stinking mouth idiot.U dont S.A politics moron!

      Lucastra.khezz - 2012-03-31 04:41

      Thulani,just list everything so that an idiot like me can understand a moron like u.

      thulani.sparks - 2012-03-31 04:47

      Hahahahahahahaha then I wonder what's better an idiot or a moron???do u even know the difference???WTF man!!!

      Lucastra.khezz - 2012-03-31 04:50

      I`m just like my Pres.Zuma,not educated and very dumb.pls differentiate btwn the 2.

      Jacqui - 2012-03-31 12:39

      Lucastro the deputy president have all these credentials and he still can't speak English. Now that is tragic. Are the rest of his crededentials of the same calibre?.

  • Mirrorman - 2012-03-31 05:20

    Youth of South Africa beware! Julius only cares for himself. He is a very very dangerous power hungry man.

  • Gerald Jordaan - 2012-03-31 05:39

    Julias what happened to ' we'll kill for Zuma' and ' we'll die for Zuma ' ?

  • Bahle Mathe - 2012-03-31 06:06

    Zille constantly reminds us what a mistake it would be to Vote for a white party(thank U Zill). So what R my options? Azapo no! PAC no! ANC? Yep! Let me rather stick to the Devil I know. Viva khongolose VIVA!

      Mirrorman - 2012-03-31 06:21

      If people think like you, then this country is doomed. Look what the DA has done in the Western Cape. Give them a chance to apply a different approach to fixing the country. If you are not happy, vote them out at the next election. Its a democracy remember?

      Thami - 2012-03-31 09:57

      @Mirrorman, I'm confused, wasn't the Western Cape under ANC until 2009? So what has DA done in the last 2 years, build open toilets, finished off projects started by the ANC, maintained the level of education started by the ANC in the 5 years to 2009? What's has Zille done really? Reversed the gains made for women equality by appointing an all while male provincial cabinet, Window dressed with Lindiwe Mazibuko, called south african children refugees and the want to benefit from an education standard created under Rasool. Please!!! I'm not a big fan of Zuma and his administration but let us not full our selves, DA has not achieved anything to warrant me giving them my vote.

      alansmartSnr - 2012-03-31 22:42

      @ Thami..There are some good comments here.. and some stupid and silly ones. Never dreamed I would see such a dumb one as yours. It is so obvious that the DA took the Western Cape because of the ineptitude and bad governess and corruption of the ANC. They (ANC) were on the verge of getting the W.Cape into the same situation as the 7 Provinces that have had never got a clean Audit and were all involved in corruption and mismanagement. The people in W.Cape were just a bit wiser and got rid of that scurge. I predict that at this rate more voters in other provinces will gradually also become wise to that scurge and will follow suit.. It may take a while but it will happen. So.. please think before you post such Bull s$%^t and show your ignorance. It should be embarrassing to you but then again..shame.. some people are just born retarded.

      Clive - 2012-04-01 13:12

      @Thami, your contribution is full of nonsense, poor spelling and typos. The W Cape cabinet is not "all while" (white); the ANC has "build" (built) far more open toilets than the DA, who are at least rectifying this blunder; it takes more than 2 years to undo 5-10 years of ANC/NP maladministration; many projects started by the ANC were in a total shambles regarding tendering and accounting procedures: Lindiwe has more intellegence in her little finger than all of Zuma's female cabinet ministers put together have in their skulls; she was elected by a majority of DA MPs, not foisted on them dictatorially, as happens in the ANC; people who come to the W Cape from the dysfunctional E Cape in search of a better life ARE economic refugees whether you like it or not; need I go on? So, Thami, you do "full" (fool) yourself if you continue to vote ANC in the hope that things couldn't be better. Finally, what has the ANC really achieved - in terms of improving the lot of the ordinary person - to warrant your vote?

  • Nkosinathi - 2012-03-31 06:06

    South Africa is traumatised by Malema phobia

  • Simson Möller - 2012-03-31 06:25

    Malema is n ongeletterde turf jakkals! Hy moet maar Zimbabwe toe trek en met sy oom Rob gaan tee drink.

  • thanuj.thulsie - 2012-03-31 06:42

    nice shades juju , changing your looks wont change your personailty though you smuck face

  • Ramazan Katunda - 2012-03-31 06:43

    ok, we got enough with

  • Skhathisami - 2012-03-31 06:52

    Malema is right! Ours is the struggle for economic freedom right to our land right to our economic resources and right to become masters of our own destiny

      Schalk - 2012-03-31 07:24

      having finacial problems? wants to steal money. being part of corruption? though so

      Shirley - 2012-03-31 11:16

      With that attitiude your destiny doesnt look all that rosy!

      John - 2012-03-31 15:41

      Skathisami, you failed in Zimbobwe and you come here looking for economic freedom and economic resources and want to be the master of your own destiny. you are probably an illegal alien, get back to Bob and preach your S#$^yte to him. you are not even a SAcan. Passport please, don't have one? why am I not surprised. You're sponging off us and robbing some SAcan of a job.

  • willium.moyo - 2012-03-31 07:00

    Not that Malema is quite wrong guys, but pliz his rhetoric will destroy this beautiful country. Do you want another Zim here? I hope not.

      marumobongani - 2012-03-31 07:05

      they can go nobody invited them you guys may need them in zim because here they not going to be worshipped

      Lesego - 2012-03-31 07:11

      Juju is correct! We need someone who can take us to the promised land! Let zuma remain with the guptas! Most white people are opposed to juju because they refuse to change!

      boltonbarry - 2012-03-31 07:11

      And he will destroy it for all Africans. Black, White, Indian etc. I am of the opinion after reading some of the news24 comments over the last couple of months that both Black and White South Africans just want to get on with living in this beautiful country and put the race card politics behind us. Yes there are pockets of resistance on both sides but it looks like the majority of South Africans are sick and tiered of empty promises politics

      watsongeorgejan - 2012-03-31 13:54

      @Lerato.My dear i'm a proud African, brown skinned, black eyed and dreadlocked. Lastly i'm an africanist. Now, i know this a concept you might not understand, this is a ideology that instills African pride by promoting identity cohesion amongst Africans, upholding high moral values and self preservasion. Having said that let me not be the first person to tell you that Julius Malema is an embarrassment to me as an African.His utterances are ill informed, his rhetoric does nothing to foster unity among Africans, and like Mr Manyi he's got no respect whatsoever for the people of this country. The proud African in me wouldn't want to be judged by other races based on the Malema yardstick.

  • marumobongani - 2012-03-31 07:13

    now the whip is under the black masters and is gonna crack real hard I know juju gonna make it this is nothing

      boltonbarry - 2012-03-31 08:18

      You talking about that whip that is actually under your Chinese masters who is controlling the strings that dictates to the A.N.C. how and where to move. Wonder how long it will take you to learn the words for "yes Sir" in Chinese. It looks like this FYI "??,??"

      marumobongani - 2012-03-31 15:46

      barry come on bro you know exactly what am talking about

      John - 2012-03-31 15:49

      You right the whip is under the black masters, like everything else they're to lazy to get up, how the frig are they gonna crack it? JuJu is doomed by the very man he was prepared to die for, watch this space.

  • bluzulu - 2012-03-31 07:20

    Load of BS, Viva ZUMA.

      John - 2012-03-31 15:53

      You been smoking too much of that sheep dung over there.

  • smanga.ndlamlenze - 2012-03-31 07:22

    Mxm wht anc doing for us? U can fight for ths malema bt our country is going down in drain. Malema must face conseqences finish.

  • mpho.pink1 - 2012-03-31 07:30

    The president & the ANC has canned Malemas suggestions because they were not relevent to the growth & wellbeing of this coutry.It is Malema who has misled the youth,making them think they can do as they please,he is making this country a laughing stock.

  • mpho.pink1 - 2012-03-31 07:30

    The president & the ANC has canned Malemas suggestions because they were not relevent to the growth & wellbeing of this coutry.It is Malema who has misled the youth,making them think they can do as they please,he is making this country a laughing stock.

  • mpho.pink1 - 2012-03-31 07:30

    The president & the ANC has canned Malemas suggestions because they were not relevent to the growth & wellbeing of this coutry.It is Malema who has misled the youth,making them think they can do as they please,he is making this country a laughing stock.

  • Mbuso - 2012-03-31 07:30

    I have a problem with certain NEC members of the leading party, ANC. The NEC collectively agreed to discipline Malema. Now other NEC members seem supporting Malema because is vocal and those NEC members are opportunist. The NEC is not supportive to the President of the ANC and Secretary General of the party. I cannot understand Deputy President of the Party and Country, and members of the NEC sharing the podium with pending appeal for ill discipline member for misconduct. It is clear that certain members of the ANC are working against The President of the party and the Country. SA citizen are not stupid they are observing the ANC practice and it is not going to be ANC all the time in power things need to change since the ANC misuse the power and citizen mandate to their advantage. If ANC does not change its practices will lead this Country into the mess and ungovernable. SA citizen are now less intolerable of this type of conduct by the ANC. Fighting for power all the time in a dirty tricks at the expense of the SA citizen is untolerable. I wish the NEC may sort out this dirty sickness that implanted in the individual within the NEC. They must not forget that they were put by the masses in power and masses have mandate to disempower them as well. Thank you. Anonymous

      Ramohapelwa - 2012-03-31 08:24

      Which collective NEC decided 2 charge Juju? 6 officials with 2 small heads r not better than whole NEC of 80 plus members. It's never been discussed @ the NEC pls. Disciplinary process r meant 2 stiffle debate. Bring Youth 2 de table- engage dem. Finish & klaar. No wonder ANC Officials postponed de meeting with Youth League Officials- moments b4 their meeting & charged them afterwards.

  • Col - 2012-03-31 07:42

    I'm not sure if Zuma has traumatised the ANCYL, but I'm quite certain that Malema has traumatised 98% of South Africas population and 2% of the rest of the world.

      Lucastra.khezz - 2012-03-31 09:15

      Malema traumatised 15% by Nationalisation and Expropriation of land while Zuma traumatised 100% by showering to prevent AIDS.

  • Ramohapelwa - 2012-03-31 07:47

    Gloves r off! Asikajiki! Not very long ago, Juju said 'THINKERS bcum FORMERS' in de ANC. He's bcum a thinker like TM, NDC 1 2 make him a FORMER. Juju's WORDS R LIKE RAIN- it brings life, but its arrows can cause death. He's on ETV 2morow @ 15:30.

      boltonbarry - 2012-03-31 08:50

      It is just amazing to witness that most of Malema's Champions on these posts can hardly Type in English..

      boltonbarry - 2012-03-31 08:55

      “No matter how big the lie; repeat it often enough and the masses will regard it as the truth.” ? John F. Kennedy

      Jacqui - 2012-03-31 12:49

      Boltonbarry, blame it on the education they are getting. It always make me feel sad.

      Ramohapelwa - 2012-03-31 17:03

      Philosopher English Dictionary baltonbarry and Jacqui, I am schooled. Queen's Language is just a part, issue raised and constructed are an ISSUE. Try me, I'm multilingual and articulate not English only but on the level of comprehension of issues. I was inducted in Cape Town, on 9 December 2005 by late ANC veteran, Professor Kader Asmal. I never heard of Juju by then. We heard many things about his Matric results. He's now in university, and prepared. I'm nobody's follower, critic, sceptic.

  • Ramohapelwa - 2012-03-31 07:47

    Gloves r off! Asikajiki! Not very long ago, Juju said 'THINKERS bcum FORMERS' in de ANC. He's bcum a thinker like TM, NDC 1 2 make him a FORMER. Juju's WORDS R LIKE RAIN- it brings life, but its arrows can cause death. He's on ETV 2morow @ 15:30.

      Kolobe - 2012-03-31 09:11

      my president

      Themba - 2012-03-31 12:26

      Malema's orange overalls are being designed as we speak. He is going to jail SOON!

  • charmaine.mcdonald2 - 2012-03-31 07:48

    Yo, I had some peace these past few days without news on Melema, The freak is back!!!!!

  • Teboho - 2012-03-31 08:01

    Hayi khona Juju. How times have changed. It's hard to believe that this comes from the very same mouth that was once so vocal in its support for Msholozi,even to the extent of being "prepared to kill for Zuma"... Ja ne...'nuff said.

  • Pheladi - 2012-03-31 08:05

    Just because the mother body does not agree with the Youth leaque, so it means they surpressing them? Surely they must have a valid reason for disagreeing with the youth leaque.

      Thoko - 2012-03-31 09:05

      Which is?

  • Doug - 2012-03-31 08:23

    Divide and rule......keep it up prick......the DA needs you

  • Matase - 2012-03-31 09:03

    malema must move on, n stop makin silly excuses during his term he got rid of every1 who disagreed with him nw he got the taste of his own medicine

  • Den - 2012-03-31 09:08

    what alot of drivel

  • Shirley - 2012-03-31 09:29

    The first lie in this story is that Zuma prevented the ancyl from thinking-they are incapable of thinking! Secondly the only people traumatised are white citizens by having to listen to his racial incitement to kill the whites! He is now a rusty ship afloat in a sea of shyte without a rudder and heading for the rocks!

      Bless Boswell - 2012-03-31 14:04

      Shirley, the youth themselves are traumatized, this is true. Instead of being mentored and taught how to behave and encouraged to better themselves by following the example of educated and dedicated people, they have been exposed to a racist, militant leadership that has taught them to expect everything on a plate - without first earning their place in society. The major problem is that even if they wanted to be productive and earn an income, they cannot, because their education is so poor that they are unemployable. In 18 years government has done nothing to improve the lot of the youth, it has in fact deteriorated. The youth needs new leadership that is not self serving and has their BEST interests in mind.

  • Marshall Ross - 2012-03-31 09:59

    Dock head

  • Zaida Khan - 2012-03-31 09:59

    OMG! It is your right to think! So use your brains! Why is he still part of ANCYL forums? Wasn't he kicked out?! Quite frankly, if you act like a child, you must be treated like a child! If there is one thing Zuma did right, then it's ridding the ANCYL from a rotten apple like Malema!

  • tony.mollagrean - 2012-03-31 10:37

    What genuine starfish

  • Logan Porter - 2012-03-31 10:51

    Keep up the work and big mouth juju..... Voters need to be able to compare, you make the DA look like an attractive alternative!

  • watsongeorgejan - 2012-03-31 12:21

    I'll tell you the parts i liked about this statement, when he says we should welcome criticism(remember BBC journalist?) and when he says they think in the ANCYL, bathong !. They've had brains all along !. Now i know why they were sacked, they were not using the brains the leadership knew they had all along. As it's said , you cannot fool all the people all the time. Eish!!

  • Jacqui - 2012-03-31 12:26

    We are all traumatised by Malema, that young man doesn't know what he is talking about anymore. Shame.

  • sbriedenhann - 2012-03-31 12:32

    Traumatised? Oh shame! And what about your dictatorship, Juliass?

  • Jeremy - 2012-03-31 13:51

    I hope we all realise that the next general election is likely to be the LAST of its kind until the NEW struggle to unseat the Mugabe style government Zuma has developed around himself has been acted out by ALL the people of this sad land. It is as clear as the nose on my face that he has set up as many institutions to serve HIS purposes as has so far been realistically possible. Even Malema recognises his Dictatorial tendencies. With the secrecy bill in place and the Constitutional court 's review completed, there will be NOTHING anyone can do to him. Zuma's ANC is going to go down in History as the first political movement in Africa to make Robert Mugabe look honest. Zuma is fully aware that Mugabe has been seen to have murdered countless thousands of his people, steal and rob his countries economy blind, whilst the world DID NOTHING. So why should Zuma worry that anyone will do anything to him once he proclaims himself progenitor elite, emperor king of SA. In other words a symbolic rebirth of Shaka Zulu at his rightful place at the helm of the country, and the eventual Zulu victory in the Mfacane.

  • Bless Boswell - 2012-03-31 13:55

    The whole country is traumatized by Zuma!

  • bzengetwa - 2012-03-31 14:08

    Malema re-appealing, giving lectures in Witz and so on. I like him when he attacks the crooks in leadership 'shower head Zuma' but i think it is time he accepts reality 'he's expired'.

  • Michelle - 2012-03-31 14:38

    Oh BooHoo Juliarse, dry your eyes! You and only you got yourself into this predicament!

      feedmelemonsandcallmeparker - 2012-04-01 07:12

      The new South African president, His Excellency, the Honourable Pres. Julius Malema, watch this space....teach your kids to spell the name Malema!!