Malema set to plead not guilty

2011-09-15 07:19

Johannesburg - The disciplinary hearing of ANC Youth League president Julius Malema, four other office bearers and spokesperson Floyd Shivambu is expected to continue on Thursday.

According to SABC news, Malema was expected to plead not guilty when he took the stand on Thursday.

The hearing was postponed on Tuesday because of the availability of all parties.

The hearings are being held at the Klipriviersberg Recreation Centre in Kibler Park, south of Johannesburg.

Malema, ANC Youth League secretary general Sindiso Magaqa, deputy president Ronald Lamola, treasurer general Pule Mabe, and deputy secretary general Kenetswe Mosenogi, are facing several charges.

This came after comments that the youth league would help bring about regime change in Botswana, a statement considered to be embarrassing for the South African government in diplomatic circles.

The ANCYL leaders face charges in terms of rule 25.5 (q) and rule 25.5(o) of the ANC's constitution, which deals with members' discipline.

On the opening day of the hearings at ANC headquarters in Sauer Street, Johannesburg, groups of people pledging support for Malema threw stones, bricks and bottles in the streets of the CBD.

The venue of the hearing was subsequently changed.

  • kolobe - 2011-09-15 07:22

    malema is a stain you cannot remove, rather adjust

      McDaNife - 2011-09-15 07:37

      The result will only go one way and its a pity. Anc is too meek.

      ConcernedMom - 2011-09-15 07:55

      @kolobe - send him to the cleaners!

      Bernard Visagie. - 2011-09-15 08:44

      If you have any doubts about how guilty this scumbag racist is of more than what's mentioned here, just watch this and remind yourself what we are dealing with here again: (Youtube link)

      therapist - 2011-09-15 09:18

      love the picture. he looks like a 3 year old who just got a lekker hiding. finally he looks like his maturity level

      Martin du Plessis - 2011-09-15 09:19

      If you have clothes with unremovable and obvious stains on them, you throw them away or give them to charity.

      GuyverXT9 - 2011-09-15 09:48

      @kolobe: so you admit he's a stain. pretty sure some industrial strength bleach should sort it out.

      Cogito - 2011-09-15 10:12

      A lot of people fail to acknowledge the power and influence that Malema has, which is something the ANC leaders & some in the white community who loathe him, fail to see beyond. Moeletsi was, to an extent, not wrong in saying the DA should embrace Malema. In fact, everyone should, so that unlike the situation that was allowed to escalate in Zim(Bob), he be cooperated with and his energy and ideology guided towards parity. South Africa has reached the precipice of tensions due to race and poverty. As we all know - better the devil you know! However much Malema might be hated and sought to do away with, he has left an indelible mark, so if you do get rid of him - a Malema II will come up and he will have a ready support base. I witnessed the developments and degradation in Zim first hand, and this will escalate. Malema is a champion of over 70% of the population in this country, and what is ironic is that some might not be conscious that they are his followers. He is good at identifying and exploiting black, indian & coloreds' needs whether you are educated or not. Even if you say you are more enlightened, not everyone in your family is educated and well off so much so that they can write off Malema as the hypocrite he is, and you will not stand against your parents & relatives who admire and follow him. So for the good of us all in this country, the white community, white capital, and the scathing media, needs to sit down with this man and start making concessions to him!

      Illuminated - 2011-09-15 10:24

      this is such a waste of time and money..this virus will go out of his way to fight to sing a racist song.. WHY? this shouldnt even be happening, government is there to serve us not irritate us.. God just take this brown plague from this planet please...!!

      My Father - 2011-09-15 11:01

      Use "Vanish" to remove the stain.

      PikeLee - 2011-09-15 11:19

      From the daily maverick: history does repeat itself. Julius Malema says: ‘We must control the economy - it’s in the hands of the whites.’ Hitler said: ‘We must control the economy - it’s in the hand of the Jews.’ Hitler appealed to the millions of Germans who had no jobs, after the First World War. Malema appeals to the millions of South Africans who don’t have a job after the apartheid era. I’m very careful about these comparisons because they are very dangerous. But do not underestimate the incredible craftiness of people who make noises on the sidelines and then move into the centre. Hitler also went to jail in the twenties. He wrote ‘Mein Kampf’ and then came out and ruled Europe. So if Julius Malema is thrown out of the ANC, I think he may form his own party. It’s a very interesting time - very dangerous, but very interesting.”

      realist03 - 2011-09-15 12:09

      FACT:malema will eventually become president,its a reality we all need to face,its just what are we prepared to do to aquire real freedom and avoid persecution from this regime,heres an idea for all to digest,what did the jews do in Israel? with that said,what province in SA is not controlled by the anc regime? need I say more.

      Pikkie - 2011-09-15 14:22

      Pike Lee. I tend to agree with you. Better the devil we now know than another to pitch up and do instead of talk. Malema talk, another may go into action. Beware. Us whiteys is vulnerable.

      Powerman - 2011-09-15 14:41

      Wheres my Omo? Make whites whiter doesn't it, I know he hates that detergent.

      Oldbuck - 2011-09-15 18:39

      have any of you guys watched planet of the apes

      BOER - 2011-09-15 21:15

      Remove the stain Malema with a loodpil.

      DEVILS SON - 2011-09-16 08:05

      I am you are julius

      Frikkie - 2011-09-16 15:33

      What are you smoking Cogito!!!!!

  • Slapper - 2011-09-15 07:25

    Here comes a plea bargain and a slap on the wrist.

      Ian - 2011-09-15 07:32

      you mean the breitling R70.000 watch

      myancmyfutur - 2011-09-15 07:54

      An apology will do

      sushi - 2011-09-15 08:24

      i agree an apology will definetly not more not less

      Aleg - 2011-09-15 08:25

      Ian, you may be wrong. Perhaps he'll be wearing his Hublot Big Bang rose gold watch worth R250 000 or his Breitling which also costs R250 000. Or one out of his Rolex collection.

      Kenno - 2011-09-15 09:14

      @myanc and Sushi...An apology for declaring war? For bringing (yet again) your anc into disrepute!! It is called treason and he should be hung! He is trash and that would have to include his blind stupid followers!

      myancmyfutur - 2011-09-15 12:30

      @Kenno, the ANC doesn't hang its own children. I think you're missing the point, Juju is being charged by the ANC for breaking the party's constitution. Its not like if he's found guilty he will go to jail. Furthermore this is an internal process and we never concern ourselves with what happens internall within DA, PAC or any party

  • 1gascan - 2011-09-15 07:25

    Guilty as charged... (Plus more)!! But the ANC supports him you see, and he was "sucking up" to the disciplinary committee with sweet talk - so I doubt we will be very surprised by a ruling that favours him...

  • Phoenix - 2011-09-15 07:31

    The easy way to solve this problem is to restrict ANCYL membership to a maximum age of 21 years

      Thinker - 2011-09-15 08:21

      Be realistic.

      Dan - 2011-09-15 08:35

      I agree the a certain extent. Why is it a youth league if old useless buggers like Malema can stll be part. At 31 he might mentally be below a youth, but certainly not in age.

      mobiles - 2011-09-15 08:43

      @ Phoenix - Also agree , but suppose they so far behind ``time`` , so 30 is still youth for them !

      Oldbuck - 2011-09-15 18:42

      the problem arises when you look at their intellect,30 yr old is equal to a normal persons child of say 12yrs

      Mystre - 2011-09-15 20:05

      @Oldbuck. Setting the bar a little high aren't you?

  • PussyGalore - 2011-09-15 07:32

    Kolobe FOr once I actually agree with you! Malema is a stain ...on society in general. He represents everything that is wrong with society - aggression, ignorance, arrogance, entitlement, hatred, narcissism. The sooner this "stain" is cleaned, the better

      Thinker - 2011-09-15 08:22

      Why ist so difficult to discard him?

      Nkulekweni - 2011-09-15 10:06

      You forgot racism Pussy galore...racism....the scourge of our contry encapsulates all the other nouns you have listed. White and black entitlement, ignorance, agression ect.ect ect....

      CeRvAnTeS - 2011-09-15 10:06

      @Thinker Because he is a mere puppet, beeing controlled by die anc bigshots and thus protected. someone to do their dirty work..

      daaivark - 2011-09-15 12:05

      Kolobe is a staunch ANC supporter, and I respect that. He is NOT a fool. So of course he will be critical of someone like Malema.

  • Jou - 2011-09-15 07:34

    I am NOT GUILTY ... i will APPEAL (The ANC way)

      Overprivileged_Underprivileged - 2011-09-15 18:43

      Racism is terrible.

      k1dbl4ck - 2011-09-15 21:37

      @O_U : so is ignorance.

  • troybee - 2011-09-15 07:36

    NO WAYS..!!! I clearly dont see a point why they keep shielding JM coz he went against the constitutional he is GUILTY, FINISH & KLARR

      Aleg - 2011-09-15 09:10

      Malema knows too much about too many powerful people. This is why he has been allowed to do or say whatever he likes without any consequences. He does not respect his elders or his nation. All the nation building, ubuntu and positive change has single-handedly been broken down by his divisive ranting. He has done more harm to the prospects of international investment, racial harmony and rational people's perspective that SA's youth show promise of a positive future for all. In 2008, when ANCYL delegates at their conference in Bloemfontein pulled down their pants and mooned the cameras, it was like a foreshadowing of the league's attitude to the rest of the nation and the world. Malema sows discord, whipping up the poorest of the sheeples who do not seem to be able to think for themselves & see that while they are stuck in abject poverty he is quietly enriching himself beyond their imaginations. The only person he really cares about is himself and how to further fatten his bank accounts even more. Perhaps he also cares about his expensive watch collection.

  • discontented - 2011-09-15 07:43

    Malema is a moral degenerate and doesn’t know the difference between right and wrong. As a result cannot take responsibility for his actions.

      nommer13 - 2011-09-15 08:16

      Oh, he knows exactly what the difference is...he just doesnt care.

      Dan - 2011-09-15 08:45

      @ discontented. He doesn't even know the difference between up and down, left and right. Right and wrong are way too complex for that peanut brain. For goodness sake - look at him!!!

  • albatross - 2011-09-15 07:45

    The ANC has realized long ago that the more racially divided we are the better for them on election day. If you are a non-delivering and largely corrupt organization with no real solutions to SA's problems, how do you secure majority victory at polls? Simple, portray yourself as party still actively fighting racial struggle against minorities and divert attention from real issues. The objective is clear and Malema is the tool. Unfortunately for all of us racial unity is bad for the ANC. We desparately need a new demographically represented political party whose ideology is racial unity in this country. Our common enemy is not each other but what the ANC has become. It is unfortunate that the content in these blogs shows that they are succeeding in dividing us.

      Pete - 2011-09-15 08:42

      unfortunately, the idea of us all living together as one happy rainbow nation will never work. Since the beginning of time, mankind has conglomerated into tribes, and this will never change. Attempts were made in the USSR, hungary and czechoslovakia to make everyone one happy tribe - look at them now. Funny how when these countries split up into their own original tribes, it was considered good and ethically correct. However, heaven forbid that this gets suggested when there are blacvks and whites involved. Then it becomes a racial issue, and not a tribal one. What those previous countries have effectively done, is institute their own versions of apartheid, and no-one thinks of it as offensive at all. Kinda makes one think...... I hope

  • Rikhogrande - 2011-09-15 07:49

    Juju has too many dictatorial tendencies, we must get rid of him! Do it now before it is too late!

      Dan - 2011-09-15 08:47

      Already too late. He already stained this country, the ANC and ensured the divide between races grew even wider.

  • Lyndatjie - 2011-09-15 07:53

    This is a surprise to anybody? Malema will never accept that isn't right 100% of the time - so no "bloody agent" will tell him any different. duh!

  • sloppycowtits - 2011-09-15 08:02

    I,m afraid that we can only judge the potential actions of the ANC on the way that they currently handle everything else. When I stand on my balcony and look at the Jo-burg skyline I just see corruption, it has become so bad its like an infestation. Sadly that rot comes right from the top and we all know that Malema's corrupt ass is so inter-twined into and with the actual people who are now trying him.

  • sarecen - 2011-09-15 08:05

    Makes you wonder what him and mugabe got up to on his zim visit...seems like he infected him

  • Gadafi007 - 2011-09-15 08:15

    And they removed my comment again ,nxa

      Janine - 2011-09-15 10:08

      Must have been abusive then.

      mike - 2011-09-15 11:51

      or extremely boring

  • nommer13 - 2011-09-15 08:18

    In his speech: "the struggle will continue" WTF Malema?

  • starled - 2011-09-15 08:20

    big surprise there - taking responsibility for his actions is not one of his strong points, actually not sure what his strong points are, wait I know, he is very good at hypocracy. Being of the people but unable to see them through the glare of the sun off his Brietling watch, or overly tinted windows on his BMW, or over the high walls of his multi million rand home.

  • Brett Sacks - 2011-09-15 08:21

    This has been a long time coming.. But how did Malema manage to get such an influence over so many people? Should he not be allowed to sing "Shoot the Boer"? My analysis and opininon in my blog:

  • Charlton10 - 2011-09-15 08:22

    Malema failed woodwork, how is he going to make a new cabinet?

      kalabafazi - 2011-09-15 08:35

      Nice one Charlton:)

  • h3fty1 - 2011-09-15 08:24

    His face make me want to attend a Boxing class

      Kenno - 2011-09-15 09:57

      His face looks as though he has been in a boxing class. Ugly waste of skin that he is!

  • Thandi - 2011-09-15 08:26

    I don't think fatboy has even the vaguest notion of the difference between guilty or not guilty, or the difference between right or wrong. The stain I liken him to is commonly known as a 'skidmark'.

  • FartaWorks - 2011-09-15 08:27

    What is so newsworthy about "Malema set to plead not guilty"? Seems to me News24 is running out of newsworthy material. If Malema so much as fart, Naspers' journos are there to smell it up... Gutter journalism at its best.

      dubula - 2011-09-15 08:51

      Malema is the man we must talk about like it or not he is future president say viva malema viva

      Kenno - 2011-09-15 09:58

      Dubula ...Once again you are happy to prove how stupid you are!

      Powerman - 2011-09-15 14:40

      @dubula - I will spit on Malema when I see him, the white killer. You have started genocide in this country, question is do have the balls to finish it...

  • SA-FAN - 2011-09-15 08:27

    Would like to know what all the black previous presidents say why are they all so quiet, Mandela, Mbeki and currently Zuma they probably all defending him.

      kalabafazi - 2011-09-15 08:36

      I don't think they are defending him out right. I don't think anyone in the goverment has the balls to stand up to him.

      Dan - 2011-09-15 08:51

      They are all partners in crime, just covering their own arses.

  • Born To Fish - 2011-09-15 08:30

    It is time that we put the oppresoors in their place? Who is the oppressed Juju? I did not see any laws oppressing black people. Just go and look at the HDP act. Who is that trying to opress! You are the biggest racist out there. You will be the demise of many people oneday because you are going to move this country into a civil war. Then we will be jut as the rest of Africa. Destroyed.........

  • AndV - 2011-09-15 08:34

    Stop the circus! Who is fooling who here? Racist Malema will get off anyway. He just mimic what the ANC represents and the cowards are hiding behind him. We know where the country is going to...

  • Cyberscep - 2011-09-15 08:35

    I'm not sure what I find more annoying: Seeing Malema's face on TV in a news conference or hearing all the journalists constantly giggling and laughing along to everything he says lke they were have a chat in a pub.. As a white farmer, let me tell you that this "Shoot the boer" issue is NOTHING to be laughed at - especially when white farmers and their families are being slaughtered on a weekly basis in this country!

  • Jozee - 2011-09-15 08:46

    Malema jou vuilgoed!! Jou dag gaan kom boetie...

      dubula - 2011-09-15 08:52

      nee mama jy speel julle dag sal kom

      24JD - 2011-09-15 09:00

      @Dubula: you think we are scared? Do NOT get your hopes up!

      Powerman - 2011-09-15 14:39

      dubula - I fear that Malema will be the end of us all, you are just very blind. But hey vote in this goon, he seems to say the rights things in you ear but they are not necessarily right.

  • dubula - 2011-09-15 08:46

    hey Malema you remind me of young Nelson Malema viva Juju. hey you dont even try to tell us about Mandela you dont know him we know him we stood for what he stand while you oppose him you even put him in prison but today you praise him we praised him then now and forever same with you Julius we praise you now and the future you are the only hope for us you a rich but in your heart you speack for the poor not these blacks who jobs and think they are all that millions of South African love and respect you we connect with you viva Juju may God give you many years so that you can see fruit of real freedom not demon crazy we want aconomic freedom now all mines banks and farms we will take them viva sanishaya

      pop101 - 2011-09-15 08:57

      You are one confused individual sir.

      kalabafazi - 2011-09-15 09:37

      Go look at the value of all Malema's assets. where do you think the money comes from? It's diverted from reaching the poor and into his bank account. So in effect he is stealing from you and you think thats good. HAHAHAHAHAHA

      Wondering - 2011-09-15 09:56

      dubula you are a IDIOT

      Kenno - 2011-09-15 10:02

      You dumb idiot!! If you were old enough to support Mandela in his youth, you are clearly extremely stupid then as an adult, to support Malema the racist. Dubula, you are a sad pathetic loser!

      Powerman - 2011-09-15 14:38

      You remember what happened to Mandela? 27 years ring a bell?

      texx - 2011-09-15 14:53

      HAHAHAHA this guy dubula thinks malema is going to make him rich too.....LOL. No he wont he's gonna rape you and i hope it hurts!!!!!! you a fool for believing him

  • Playnice - 2011-09-15 08:51

    This is not a Disciplinary hearing, it is an interview for a ANC position which he will pass with flying colours. He has proved that he has no regard for the law, is corrupt, only cares about himself and not the poor and is an extreme racist. All the merits of a good ANC leader.

      Playnice - 2011-09-15 09:06

      NO !!!!

  • kalabafazi - 2011-09-15 08:57

    When Jacob Zuma was on trial the likes of Beki Cele and Julias Malema stood behind him and supported him all the way. During this period I imagine they became privvy to certain information about Jacob Zuma's dealings that would send him to jail at worst and into the political wilderness at best. As a result these "leaders" are now able to commit very serious offences and get away with it as the "powers that be" are to damn scared to stand up to them.

  • Fredster69 - 2011-09-15 08:57

    as expected

  • 24JD - 2011-09-15 08:58

    The A.N.C. is making fools of themselves. This man has undermined them so many times, still they want to defend them. The world is watching them, waiting for their judgment. Surely no one wants to do business with a country when all can be taken away “without compensation”? What happened to the threat that if he gets fired as the ANCYL, he will start his own following? The big question is being how he is going to fund that, surely not with his Family trust.

  • chilli - 2011-09-15 08:58

    dont mess with this revolutionary, he agrees to nothing that goes against him, its his way or the ANC'S way, u going nowhere, we will defend u from the back bench in hind sight. Where does he gets the money from to oppose all the rulings against him and his ANCYL party???????? R20K p/m?????????

  • birdman - 2011-09-15 09:15

    Due to his blatant racism and the singlehanded sabotage of the counry's economy, Malema and his croneys have been summarily ousted from the ANC forthwith and cast out into the political wilderness. A watershed day for SA politics as the country can now roll up it's sleeves and get back to work. And pigs will fly!

  • Benign - 2011-09-15 09:23

    I look at this ANIMAL and want to get SICK.He is rubbish and must be treated with disdain !!!!!!!!

  • Piespot - 2011-09-15 09:28

    y can`t they just fire Sello Malema,ke le tsapane le lebodileng.

  • Nzx - 2011-09-15 09:32

    he may be found guilty, but his ideas alive and well, gaining momentum

      mike - 2011-09-15 12:07

      curious, what origional ideas does he have?

  • eric.vanvuuren - 2011-09-15 09:37

    This is all sooo funny.. Its a shame that all the deacent people (Black or white) are sitting on the sidelines and doing nothing.. We will all suffer for this.....Fool.

  • Ascendo Tuum - 2011-09-15 09:42

    Didn't they say they were going to move the hearing to a secret location to avoid further demonstrations?? In the article they give the whole address. Why not publish the GPS co-ordinates just to be on the safe side to make sure the rioters, sorry supporters find their way!

  • Travis Vermaak - 2011-09-15 09:42

    Why do the ANC put up with this embarassment(Julius Melenoma)? Why don't they sack him already and get someone with some intention of leading SA's youth in the right direction, instead of someone trying to start a racism war.

  • Bardy - 2011-09-15 09:49

    Oh p!ss off! I am so tired of seeing your stupid face in the news already! Get a real life please! You are making this country a racist place!

  • happycamper - 2011-09-15 09:59

    now that he is guilty...they gonna groom him for a better leader and president. the little fat f@ck wins again. sweet

  • Travis Vermaak - 2011-09-15 10:03

    Government and its cronies are bleeding South Africa dry, and the blind sheep continue to support and vote for these fools thinking they will be better off somehow. This mentality just defies logic!! Apaartheid used as an excuse every time for the moral and ethical void in SA politics.

  • kaycee007 - 2011-09-15 10:04

    its a strange country we live in ....some of these youths were not even born when apartheid was in rule but now they follow a wanna be leader who has no idea of what hes doing ..... come on guys cant anyone 1 see what this country is comming to ..wake up and smell the fresh air... this country is run by corrupt politicians every single one of them ... why you u guys toi toi and vandalize properties ..shout and scream on teh streets when urll dont get what urll want ..... it you guys who vote them in these seats in teh first place .. so no pint in complaining now

  • Janine - 2011-09-15 10:07

    I spoke to a relative in Switzerland last night - he asked me for an update on the Malema sage. Great - people overseas are laughing at us and how ineffectual our government is. Goodbye overseas investment.

  • riaz - 2011-09-15 10:08

    i grew up south of durban,close to umlazi,what surprises me is that the youth today speak with an accent that is so eurpoean,the dress sense and style is also european and american,so why is juju wearing designer clothes by theses western imperialists,designer watches by europeans and ,forget it,juju is an idiot,at a loss for words,i am.

      Pikkie - 2011-09-15 14:39

      Riaz. You sound like one of the curry people. I was under impression that they have brains. Don't do yourself in. Wear a watch. Wear American style anything. Have you seen any of the ANC , Malema or higher up, doing otherwise. Don't try to find an excuse for living. You were made by God. Malema can hurt your feelings, but he cannot get close to GOD unless he start bending his knees and ask for mercy. His time is running out. Look ank listen.

  • Jan - 2011-09-15 10:13

    Not surprizing he is the president zuma has no balls , but his suproters are total idiots he has millions while his followers have zero.

      Thandi - 2011-09-15 10:26

      Showerhead has big balls - he uses them to shag anything with a pulse.

  • MSHAZIE - 2011-09-15 10:13

    They just dont get it, Malema most of the times say things that makes sense but its just the way he says it that seems to be a problem. And as for those who are left brained calling him a stain... I doubt it if you were to say that if Malema was 'white', if Malema had a wig or something. I hate it when people dont think!

      BloodRiver - 2011-09-15 11:33

      I wish you and your people could think.

      mike - 2011-09-15 12:09

      so you hate yourself? so sad

  • PikeLee - 2011-09-15 11:19

    history does repeat itself. Julius Malema says: ‘We must control the economy - it’s in the hands of the whites.’ Hitler said: ‘We must control the economy - it’s in the hand of the Jews.’ Hitler appealed to the millions of Germans who had no jobs, after the First World War. Malema appeals to the millions of South Africans who don’t have a job after the apartheid era. I’m very careful about these comparisons because they are very dangerous. But do not underestimate the incredible craftiness of people who make noises on the sidelines and then move into the centre. Hitler also went to jail in the twenties. He wrote ‘Mein Kampf’ and then came out and ruled Europe. So if Julius Malema is thrown out of the ANC, I think he may form his own party. It’s a very interesting time - very dangerous, but very interesting.”

  • Tolerant - 2011-09-15 11:41

    We don't need him, he is trying to bring struggle politics back. Malema if you missed it, the ANC has won the elections.

  • dubula - 2011-09-15 11:57

    I wonder what we ca do without Sir Malema you give us hope. VIVA My president they must sentence for two weeks to cuba or Zimbabwe so that you come back to show you have learn what you know viva president Malema

      daaivark - 2011-09-15 12:07

      What on earth is that all supposed to mean? Very confused/confusing.

      mike - 2011-09-15 12:10

      what are you smoking?

      Powerman - 2011-09-15 14:36

      Yes go to Cuba, learn how to ruin a country. You just don't get it, now why is my car not washed, get off my PC.

      Oldbuck - 2011-09-15 18:46

      in zim he will learn a lot he will be able to teach his followers how to climb trees again so they all can go back to their roots