Malema talks up nationalisation again

2012-09-19 11:24

Johannesburg - Expelled ANC Youth League president Julius Malema has likened critics of the nationalisation of mines to those who opposed the end of apartheid.

Malema was asked by Talk Radio 702 host John Robbie on Wednesday how the nationalisation of mines could take place and whether it was plausible.

"You sound like people who opposed our struggle for freedom," answered Malema.

"You are arguing exactly like they argued, that we cannot run the economy... I am telling you that it can sound difficult until it is done."

‘Don’t want blanket nationalisation’

Malema said the government should "not necessarily" expropriate mines, but should instead use Botswana as a model, where the state owned 51% of mine shareholding.

"Why are you not having a problem with Botswana? [Mine companies] are more than willing to work with government in Botswana, but when they come here they are refusing," Malema said.

"I'm not calling for wholesale, blanket nationalisation. We still encourage the involvement of the private sector. We're talking about greater control and participation of the state in the economy."

Malema also responded to questions about reports that the Hawks had concluded their corruption probe and he would soon be arrested.

He said he was not aware of any intention to arrest him.

"I hear that from you at the start of the programme. I hear that from papers," Malema said.
"I've been 'getting arrested' since 2009," he said.

Malema said that if the police wanted to arrest him, they would not have to "create an unnecessary scene".

"Those that are looking for me, they don't have to create an unnecessary scene, they just have to call me, 'Mr Malema, report to Polokwane police station at 09:00', and I'll be there," he said.

‘Anti-Malema faction in ANC’

Malema also told Robbie that he would return to the ANC, regardless of the outcome of the party's national elective conference in Mangaung.

Malema said he was expelled from the party because a "faction" in the ANC, which was led by President Jacob Zuma, was determined to be re-elected to positions.

"I was booted out by those who felt threatened by my presence in the organisation," Malema said. "They thought my presence threatened their re-election at Mangaung."

He said that once the pressure of the election contest was over, he would be welcomed back into the ANC.

"Once they get re-elected or not re-elected, we will still be welcomed back into the organisation, because they will be cool-headed and they will no longer be afraid of the unknown," Malema said.

Will go back to ANC

He said that as an expelled member, no administrative rules prevented him from rejoining the party.

"Being expelled from the ANC means that you can wake up tomorrow and apply to be a member of the ANC," Malema said.

"I'm not rejoining the ANC, I'm joining as a new member of the ANC."

Malema said he still had a good relationship with his branch and participated in its meetings.

"It's my branch. I've never had bad blood in my mind. I've got a bad blood with those ones who have an ambition to be elected," Malema said.

Robbie asked Malema about his continued commitment to the ANC and whether that commitment was reasonable following his expulsion.

"But you're living in cuckoo land. You say you'll die for the ANC, all that wonderful stuff, but the ANC has kicked you out, aren't you living a dream?" asked Robbie.

"No, no, no," answered Malema. "I would have walked away if I was an opportunist."

  • tgif.wtfaw - 2012-09-19 11:34

    Infantile !!!!!!

      sean.carbutt - 2012-09-19 12:08

      hey long, why don't you just fawk off back to china or wherever you come from. Thats a pretty rich statment coming from a communist. Your own people are starving, killing each other, only allowed to have one child, why, because of the stupidity that is rampant in your own country.Remind me again are you white or black, not sure about what you lot want now.

      rbphiri - 2012-09-19 12:13

      @ Yung S.H. Long cut down on the sushi! it's bad for your political rationale. Can some one donate several stoves to china, the side effects of salmonella is really making some of them sound stupid. Maybe a cooked meal will give you more sense.

      mihaip007 - 2012-09-19 12:19

      @kyle - "All white people have benefited from an unjust system." I am white. I did not benefit one bit! I worked for all I got! oh yes - I cam DIRECTLY from EASTERN europe where your wonderful system FAILED as it failed throughout the entire European COMMUNIST block! You want the SAME to happen here? When we actually have an OPPORTUNITY to make it happen for ALL? The opportunity arose in 94. the same opportunity exists today! To work TOGETHER for a better SA! Instead you point at 400 years of "white supremacy" when in fact we are talking of a few decades of apartheid. During which sa has made a hell of a lot of progress in terms of economy as well as infrastructure that was eliminated by a mere 18 years of anc regime. The "white supremacy" that you speak of was actually composed by a number of nations that came and affected sa history! English etc etc..! WHITES as we are today are composed by MANY cultures. The same as the blacks that are composed by many tribes and cultures. TOGETHER we form SA! To simply state whites have this and blacks have that is too simplistic of a point of view! The indians are also coinsidered of a black perspective. THEY succeeded - why didn't you? Also the WHITES have and CONTINUE to give millions of dollars in handouts to africa! WHY do you still complain? oh yes because none of that goes into YOUR pocket, they go into the fat cats of africa's politic VIP's - which are black..! enjoy humble pie...

      djgmaestro - 2012-09-19 12:20

      @Wolf: The education system we had did not anticipate blacks being leaders and now we are learning in practice. This will end soon. Even your superior education system you had did not anticipate that one day you will be led by a black person and now you are learning in practice. this will change soon as well. The past is the past but you are what or who you are based on your past. Which is too different to what we blacks have. I am not hoping to relive the past nor do I wish it to happen to someone else. I have hopes, dreams and kids who I wish to have the best or better history than mine, if you have the same that might mean you have to loose something and start anew, sounds scary doesn't it?

      ed.gutsche - 2012-09-19 13:10

      young schlong.....hahahaha

      mihaip007 - 2012-09-19 13:12

      kyle - let's analyse your point of view. Blacks - composed of black, indian, chinese and coloured. excuse me if I left some out, but will focus on these four categories. Indians - mostly in business owning, working hard all the time. NEVER complaining and whinning and requesting nationalization. Not moaning on the racial lines. Chinese - mostly in business owning, working hard all the time. NEVER complaining and whinning and requesting nationalization. Not moaning on the racial lines. Coloured - mostly workers. Don't see them compaining much and whinning and requesting nationalization. Not moaning on the racial lines. Blacks - mostly workers, some in business. ALWAYS compaining along the racial lines. Always demanding. Requesting nationalization. Spot the difference???????? Whites - mostly working and some business owning. NEVER complain along the racial lines ONLY when they are called racist or when the conversation turns into racial connotations. NEVER ask for nationalisation. There is OBVIOUSLY something wrong with the black classes.

      mihaip007 - 2012-09-19 13:12

      kyle - should we analyse the same in terms of crime?

      mphogift.mukwevho - 2012-09-19 13:31


      maltacular.zinj - 2012-09-19 14:23

      Honorable president Mr Julias Malema. I cannot wait for the day when you are in the office fixing the social inequality problems that we have now. Africa for Africans #teamjuju

      luke.dekoker - 2012-09-19 14:37

      Yung SH.t, rich coming from you? Kyle, you are a blind idiot..What did you do for the past 18 years other than wait for handouts, rely on BEE, AA to get somewhere in life? White people have the advantage because they work hard to get on with life, we are not corrupt as most of your hangerson are.

      marco.bischoff.35 - 2012-09-19 14:38

      @ YungSHlong F$#*K off back to China then where everybody is wealthy and happy!! What are you doing here?

      tannie.marie - 2012-09-19 14:53

      Kyle Smith Joined Facebook 20 hours ago Well then.

      tannie.marie - 2012-09-19 15:07

      @marco... Yung S.H. Long (obviously not a long schlong) Joined Facebook September 11 He has 1 friend. Ditantane Kganakga. Something tells me Ditantane IS in fact the young schlong. He's most likely in Polokwane, and not in China.

      darren.raath.5 - 2012-09-19 16:58

      @kyle why dont the black people get out of the bush,pick them selves up and go forward. instead of herding goats they should be studying! its not 400 years of white oppression,ITS 5000 YEARS OF stupid tradition that is holding them back,not to mention a lot of laziness as well. im sick and tired of people always asking for stuff,especially from the wjites.

      claudia.meads - 2012-09-19 17:38

      You have to p1$$ yourself at this freak - what is the most prehistoric species on earth.." No it is not the Coelacanth - it is the BLACK CHAMELEON... First he calls the Botswana government - "...a foot stool of imperialism...", now suddenly he wants to use their socialist mining models - but trust me, the zombie-mobs he represents, will still sheeple after him... He had conveniently forgotten that Zimbabwe follows the same "model" - look where it took them (links below). Trust that those rabbit-chasing, muti slurping miners who are zombified by him are ready for a ten-fold REDUCTION in Salary. The fundamental challenge is not the economic model - it is THE PEOPLE. BTW: Juju's "nationalization" is simply a code-word for TENDERS (eagerly prompted by his parasitic Chinese backers).

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      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-09-20 11:00

      Yung SH. Lng. What do you know, you have become black to benefit from BEE measures. Do you really think you are the appropriate person to speak about our politics?. What is that about not surpressing the voice of people. In your country China people have been put to death for practicing their right to free speech. May be you can better spend your time encouraging your fellow Chinese to use ther age old wisdom and stop killing our animals and our economy with thrash they export here and you sell in your shops.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-09-20 11:04

      R Phiri, The honourable Mr Yung S. H. Long is Chinese he doesnt fancy Sushi, would rather eat dried sea horses and maybe have some snakeblood for his digestion. For his hangover he will grate up some Rhinohorn and his own special 'chomp' stamp will be made of Elephant tusks. What are these people doing here?.

  • rbphiri - 2012-09-19 11:34

    I thought my girl friend's cooking was bad, but juliArse takes the cake.

      heathway.master - 2012-09-19 11:58

      Wish the police would take him to some isolated locality in Kalahari Desert, lock him up and never disclose the locality. Let him just disappear from society. He insults our president all the time, and why Zuma tolerates this rabble rouser, and inciter to violence, really mystifies me. Why allow him to try and destroy investment in this country, and try and make the mining industry ungovernable. He is destroying jobs at a phenomenal rate, and severely reducing tax income to the State, which it so desperately needs to uplift the poor, and improve their living standard. The man is dangerous with his militant and radical ideas, and surely the state can silence him and remove him from society, so that he can do no more harm to Zuma's stated aim of creating more jobs for all. He has never been responsible for any good in this country, and never will be. With our Secret Service, things could be done in such a secretive way, that when and if he is released, the State can categorically deny having any complicity in the event.

  • charlesdumbwin.dumbwin - 2012-09-19 11:34

    Arrest this tsotsi for incitement. Time for Fatboy to go down.

      bongani.nsele.58 - 2012-09-19 12:09

      dumb charles as usual....i stand for my race no matter what... that's how dumbwin dumb down thinks

      mihaip007 - 2012-09-19 12:24

      bongani - he did not call him in racial terms - he called him "Fatboy" which is also an euphemism for self-enriched ath the poor's expense while saying he fights for the poor! So to say "i stand for my race no matter what" would be like me saying "I stand for my race (white) no matter what - even if that person who is white may be HITLER!!!" Stupid comment...try again

  • andres.dewet - 2012-09-19 11:36

    Nationalisation like Apartheid? Psycho much, dough-boy? Horrible oppressive system compared to private property ownership? What the hell? OMG! I cannot believe this oke, can we stop covering this guy... he's lost the plot.

      andres.dewet - 2012-09-19 11:38

      Plus, you say in one breath the State is oppressive and can't provide leadership AT ALL. Then in the next, you want the State to run all the mines, the very mines you go to, to tell the miners the State does nothing for them and can't lead? What the EF is wrong with you?

      heathway.master - 2012-09-19 13:54

      In the official court records of Malema versus Afri-Forum, with regards to his hate speech "Kill the Boer, Kill the farmer" the following statements appeared in the final judgement “The Constitution in Section 16 provides for the freedom of expression. The right in Subsection (1) does not extend to Propaganda for War b) Incitement to imminent violence c) Advocacy of hatred that is based on race, ethnicity, gender or religion, and that constitutes incitement to cause harm. The above three crimes against the State and its people, fall outside any protection of rights as stated in the Constitution. I consider that every time Malema talks to a frenzied mob, he commits one of the crimes above, and therefore forgoes his right to freedom of expression. He has already been charged and found guilty of hate speech, and has been already charged with incitement to violence and anarchy.

      tate.morele - 2012-09-25 19:09

      YOU WISH

  • sakhi.TheNextKent.dlala - 2012-09-19 11:37

    Malema has a 51% stake in News24 ...

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  • Robert - 2012-09-19 11:40

    Dear Editor The news reporting about Mr Malema has now reached tabloid proportions. Do you have a permanent army of paparazzi folowing the man to headline any utterance he makes?

  • themba.mkhize.5494 - 2012-09-19 11:41

    Malema For President

      raymond.romans.5 - 2012-09-19 13:21

      And then it will be inkingayabantu. Box!

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  • mzondistanley - 2012-09-19 11:42

    Nationalisation can not work because the Metal market is again controlled by them and a good example is Zambia they have gone back to PPP or private ownership!

  • nkadimeng - 2012-09-19 11:43

    We behind you all the Juju, all these antagonists can scream and shout all they want. We don't need their approval to be in this movement. #ASIJIKI

      heathway.master - 2012-09-19 14:34

      Nkadimeng : Sometimes I assume that the majorities attitudes can be summed up in 5 words : 1 )Stupidity 2) Ignorance 3) Entitlement 4) Envy 5) Greed

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      Dave - 2012-09-19 11:53

      I thought Floyd was behind him....

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  • hermann.hanekom - 2012-09-19 11:46

    Wow, the big struggle hero living in cuckoo land.

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  • osmaseko - 2012-09-19 11:48

    Phambili ngo Malema...I support your Economic's not going to be simple as we've see...but it is going to happen.

      mihaip007 - 2012-09-19 12:31

      can you please define "Economic Freedom" for all of us? Two reasons - so WE can understand it, but most important to see if YOU can understand it!

      Dave - 2012-09-19 12:43

      osmaseko, why dont you hold your breath for maybe, hey, 1 hour and see what happens?

      nads.delange - 2012-09-19 13:02

      Mihaip, he can define it, but he cannot give you a way to achieve it. It's all quick fix theories without focusing on what we really need for true "economic freedom", an education system that works, and a competent government who cares about people instead of money.

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  • louis.hager.12 - 2012-09-19 11:49

    Oh! so this week Juju LIKES Botswana?!

  • keke.lesetla - 2012-09-19 11:50

    Don't worry Juju no one is gna kill u, It's my constitutional right to be entertained lol. I'll March alone to Parliament

      gretchen.oswald.3 - 2012-09-21 00:19

      Enjoy your march. Maybe you also become headline news on News 24, and you will be a popular as Malema. Take on the challenge and lets see.

  • mabhekana.nzuza - 2012-09-19 11:51

    Please Malema, change your Pumpers it's smelling very bad!

  • mmangaliso - 2012-09-19 11:52

    isn't julius fat enough

  • edgar.mooi - 2012-09-19 11:53

    There's lot of good ideas in our head julias even dose dt critisez you like me saying u a not educated have no knowledge and understanding like u .i olso like the issue dt u dont hide ur feelings and u share ur view to dose dt dnt understand the trueth of the wealth of the country .thank u to open my mind ,dont talk much of land because we blacks are nt good in ploughing adawise the white will go and u will look like Somalian or Ethiopia . Ur overall thinking is good at certain point . Im nt ur supporter bcs some times u act like u bigger than urself .

      lizette.wilsenach - 2012-09-19 12:08

      Man everybody except the owners would like it if profits from the mines could be distributed amongs the people. Only it will take a very Great person to be in charge of that much money and not take it all for himself in the end anyway.

      nads.delange - 2012-09-19 13:10

      Edgar, well said my man. Julius has lost the support of most educated people because of his hatred for whites, and his inability to see the bigger picture, together with just being plain greedy (for attention and money). If he spent nearly as much time on the education crisis in SA as he did on an unworkable theory of nationalisation, maybe he would have more support. You need to fix things from the grass roots, otherwise it will always be rotten at the top. I just wish he would use that big mouth of his to fight for the youth, the school going kids who are suffering tremendous injustices at the hands of our incredibly incompetent government. The problem is, his "fights" consists of more hot air than anything else, it leads to a few strikes and Zuma getting angry at him, but nothing else will come from it, so even if he had to actually focus on something constructive, it wouldn't lead to anything.

  • danie.strydom.7 - 2012-09-19 11:56

    LMAO - take the mines. That would be a shrewd move to appease the uneducated. Let me check the currency rates again. Sure I can cash in. And from the Chinese representative (Yung S H Long) : The same path as in China would work well in South Africa. Limit everyone to have only ONE child. Imagine that. The quality of life for the masses in China should be indicative that you are a complete MORON.

  • malungisa.samuel - 2012-09-19 11:57

    You are gud boy i support u 100% people of SA they like too much apartheid although we are near to be free but because zuma is oppressing us by using his old rules

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      mihaip007 - 2012-09-19 12:34

      eish - I am lost! now it is apartheid, the third forces, the bloddy agents, the people with white tendencies and zuma and his henchmen..! All of these people piling up against malema

  • ansie.b.badenhorst - 2012-09-19 11:57

    Has this sob not caused enough damage to this country yet????? Wake up ANC and smell the SH!$

  • pawmetmhla.mqadi - 2012-09-19 11:57

    Malema24.... .sick! Enough already!!!!!

  • martin.gee.godfrey - 2012-09-19 11:58

    The 6 million taxpayers are already overburdened paying for our bloated and highly overpaid government officials and now you still want our taxes to fund the mines? Malema, you fail to realise that the minerals of this country already belong to the people, the mines are just private enterprise that pay for the RIGHTS to mine those minerals. The cost of bringing just one ounce of gold, platinum or coal is hundreds of thousands of rands. One can not condone the poor slaries paid to the miners and one hopes that their increases to R11 grand a month (at Lonmin) will help those who work underground. One can also hope that all those miners who get an increases remember to file their personal tax returns and help the rest of us over-burdened tax-payers!

      nads.delange - 2012-09-19 13:14

      Don't forget about Malema's tax return ;) And what he doesn't seem to realise about this whole pretty theory of nationalisation, is that OUR tax money needs to then be redirected to the mining sector to run the mines. Then, IF we get anything out at the end after all the corruption, the proceeds of the mines will go to the other areas of our budget. Great idea! The fact is, it works in Botswana because they have a competent government. Here, well, we have a bunch of greedy, incompetent retards.

  • Jackie - 2012-09-19 12:00

    Was listening to him on 702 talking about it, and actually I starting to get a sense of what he is talking about. I urge those you just blast the man to stop and use their mind freely and see the light. Guys you are free do have your own opinion, and stop been brainwashed by the media who is actually been owned by the very same people owning the mine, and e everything else in South Africa

      mihaip007 - 2012-09-19 12:39

      I ALSO listened to him! And there are MANY flaws in what this guys is saying! However he is OBVIOUSLY NOT an idiot as many say! He can talk his way out! At times he simply overpowers the oponnent with his rethoric. However, what he wants has never worked succesfully. The idea is a dream! It only works on paper. In reality, the corruption and the lack of accountability will prevail and destroy this dream he wants to put forward. He is also not wanting a debate as he claims. The whole thing HAS been debated and found wanting. He simply states that it WILL happen! Which AGAIN sounds very much like a dictator. This man has many hidden agendas, and he says something else to what he means! We are NOT dumb! We are intelligent middle-class people (white or black) and we CAN see past what this guys is saying with or without the media! If he had it his way the sa would be like the countries you see in the movies like the "blood diamonds" where everything is ruled by the mob. please man...

  • guyt1 - 2012-09-19 12:01

    What an absolute wanker /tosser you are malema.... fat irritating child

  • John Peter Steyn - 2012-09-19 12:01

    I don't own a mine so I don't really care.

      lizette.wilsenach - 2012-09-19 12:16

      me either

      Dave - 2012-09-19 13:13

      me neither, wouldnt rush out and buy one too soon either

  • AdriaanD.duPlessis - 2012-09-19 12:03

    This is SA, not Botswana you idiot!

      mihaip007 - 2012-09-19 12:41

      besides - WHY does he look at borswana as an example? Is botswana a SHINING example? I would say that the usa is more of an example! For freedom and opportunities. or England. Or Australia or even better yet - JAPAN! Where hardly people do crime! But this idiot is using botswana - the same country who he said that the gov. is ripping their people off and that the youth league was going to go and invade or something..!

  • mmangaliso - 2012-09-19 12:05

    Just tell one person today\r\n \r\n\let us not be blinded by fruitlesss loyalty\ the people who fought for this country are too old or dead. These economic fighters are fighting for themselves no1 else NO1 ELSE and thats the motto

      nads.delange - 2012-09-19 13:16

      SO TRUE!!!!!

  • keith.ngobeni - 2012-09-19 12:09

    This is the same Julius malema who claims to enjoy massive support from his followers, so why can't he open his own political party? and challenge the ANC and other political parties on the ballots so that we can see how popular he is as he claimed before. It shows that he's just an empty vessel and always talking hogwash and trash no wonder his followers are just blind wankers like their idi amini(Julius malema)

  • Alfjoe - 2012-09-19 12:10

    Nw i see that ths boy is a fool, he is praising what is happening in botswana yet he wanted a regime change there? 51%? Just lyk mugabe?

  • thulani.jiyana - 2012-09-19 12:19

    I support you 100% Malema it will take very intelligent and analytic people to understand you however keep up the good fight sinawe Juju.

  • thomas.andrews.520125 - 2012-09-19 12:19

    I really wish president zuma and the anc would de-bark malema like a nusense dog.

      gretchen.oswald.3 - 2012-09-21 00:26

      Thomas- please dont insult dogs. They are mans best friend ok!!!!

  • lvhukeya1 - 2012-09-19 12:19

    there is nO case here MALEMA is being arrested for bad mouthing de current pres 'polygamist.

  • molopa.kabelo - 2012-09-19 12:29

    If we don't embrace change, it will enforce itself on us.

  • bob.sinclair.3114 - 2012-09-19 12:30

    They thought my presence threatened their re-election at Mangaung."

  • ShuaybR702 - 2012-09-19 12:33

    Malema wants the government to take over the mines, but this government is SO corrupt at times, what would happen if the government had control of the mine? Do you think that Lonmin incident wouldn't have happened? No Ways! It would still have happened. The Government is even more greedy than the private owners. That's the bottom line.

  • khathu.rasi - 2012-09-19 12:39

    Lol Juju is a funny man, He always has sumthing to say or to defend himself

  • ShuaybR702 - 2012-09-19 12:40

    @ Yung S.H. Long- You come from a country that killed muslim people cuz they want to practice their religion amongst MANY other human rights atrocities. So you will excuse me when I say, why don't you just keep your opinion to yourself and don't talk about freedom and social wealth when your own people supress the rights and freedoms of people in your country!!!

  • winifred.watson.9 - 2012-09-19 12:42

    What does this guy know about nationalization absolutely ditto squat. What about nationalizing the cadres pockets a much better idea. Go and get a degree in business economics then come and debate the issue.

      Touchy More - 2012-09-19 13:04

      ur demand 4 a degree here shows u might b learned bt definitely nt educated, again its not ur fault, i blame the system. learn to reason to a fact nt who said it then u will go places.

      charlesmakgale.radingoane - 2012-09-21 10:58

      Your comment show me the capacity of mind and education. They are many economist which their brain are empty

  • matsosotsika - 2012-09-19 12:52