Mangaung 'watershed' meeting for ANC

2012-06-07 22:31

Bloemfontein - The ANC’s Mangaung conference in December will be a watershed conference for the party, President Jacob Zuma said on Thursday.

"Mangaung must take South Africa forward," Zuma told delegates at the ANC's Northern Cape elective conference in Upington.

He said the ANC, its leagues and the alliance had to consolidate and take the national democratic revolutionary forward at Mangaung and at the national policy conference being held from 26 to 29 June.

He said South African and the ANC were at a point of a second transition for the country, which made the 2012 national conferences more important than usual: they needed to shape the future.

"We approach Mangaung in the same spirit [as] other landmark conferences in the past, watershed conferences."

Zuma, who is also president of the ANC, urged the delegates to discuss the party’s policies and to make meaningful contributions at the upcoming national policy conference.

Zuma urged party members to use the conference to make the ANC stronger.

Discussing the importance of provincial conferences, Zuma said there was a culture for party members to elect leaders first and then hold conferences later.

He said it was more important that provincial conferences first decide on programmes and take resolutions, and then elect leaders to take the chosen programmes forward.

Zuma said the ANC should elect leaders on merit.

"They are absolutely important to guide us, the African National Congress, the organisation of comrades, not of friends."

Zuma paid tribute to the ANC Youth League in his address and saluted all the youth.

He reiterated that the ANC belonged to all in South Africa, and not to just a few people.

"The ANC has always fought for the national interest, and not the few."

Zuma also discussed the traditions in the ANC and focused on unity, discipline and respect for the organisation.

"You act in the ANC to divide, you commit a crime, and have no right to do so."

Zuma, who was showered with praise at the conference, urged the delegates to "be the ANC and unite".

The conference ends on Sunday.

  • Henk - 2012-06-07 22:34

    "Zuma said the ANC should elect leaders on merit." The you should pack up your stranded three certificate and vacate the presidency...

      Henry - 2012-06-07 22:45

      Judging by your grammar, you shouldn't throw stones...

      EricksonTL - 2012-06-07 22:47

      Actually, he has two degrees. They're honourary, but who's counting!

      henryian73 - 2012-06-07 23:08

      Henk you spot on bud! Zuma was by far the worst ANC president ever and without any doubt the worst thing for South Africa and our nation as a whole. Time to go!

      Thozi - 2012-06-07 23:12

      @Thoughtsandstuff Who, Henk or the President?

      Nicolaas - 2012-06-07 23:57

      @Henk this time yu one up on me mate!

      allcoveredinNinjas - 2012-06-08 08:37

      Second transition? been in reverse for a while now , lets just try get into first . Doubt anything but leadership battles and position jockeying will happen alla Polokwasne .... that was a 'turning point',' watershed' conference too.

      Steve - 2012-06-08 08:44

      Let's hope that they bolt the chairs securely to the floor. Chair-throwing has become the way forward in dealing with disagreements at these cANCer conferences. If the cANCer has always fought for national interest and not the few, then why are there so many of their people a whole lot worse off than they were 20 years ago?

      bernpm - 2012-06-08 09:56

      I do hope that they shed more than just water.

      Glyn - 2012-06-08 10:34

      @Henry - So you went to a posh school!? Why is grammar important on a blog that requests comments from all and sundry, not only from arrogant cooks who call themselves chefs? @ Henk - Well said!

  • Sharon - 2012-06-07 22:46

    He talks with great bravado, but honestly, I think he is not as confident about his leadership as he appears. If I were him, I'd be sleeping with one eye wide open.

      Godfrey - 2012-06-07 23:41

      Lets hope the "watershed" will wash away words like revolutionary, comrads, caders, apartheid and the struggle lay to rest.

      Sharon - 2012-06-07 23:45

      @ Janine - I reckon the spear is blunt from overuse!

      Nicolaas - 2012-06-08 00:01

      Sharon, maybe a stif spear to poke those that want to oust him? LOL!

      Nicolaas - 2012-06-08 00:03

      @Godfrey, he was not meaning that watershed, he is going to have a bath instead of a shower and water will be shedding everywhere. It take a mammoth bath and tons of water to accommodate the pap spear!

      Juan - 2012-06-08 02:32

      What leadership?

      Adam - 2012-06-08 06:21

      The only thing of his that is open is his one-eyed-snake. Maybe the choose the one with the biggest spear. These conferences and elections are becoming a joke, all the clowns together, all polishing their spears. Bunch of wankers.

      Jacqui - 2012-06-08 13:20

      Sharon why sleep with one eye open? He is sleeping between five women, with everything open.!!!!

  • Stewart Croucamp - 2012-06-07 22:53

    It is sad to see how stupid people are that they don't even realise that they are stupid.

      Sharon - 2012-06-07 23:50

      There is no one as dangerous as someone who thinks he knows a lot!

      Azande - 2012-06-08 04:58

      @Sharon, I'm sure that does not refer to JZ because he is aware that he is clueless and just a puppet used to beak doors for the corrupreneurs. He will be puked as soon as their stomachs are full. Watch Mangaung.

      hlonipha.b.kwatsha - 2012-06-08 07:50

      I think going to school plays a huge role in one's thinking.had he hv gone to school he would know what's good for him,since common sense seems to be absent.

  • ThaboShakuNews24 - 2012-06-07 22:54

    "Zuma said the ANC should elect leaders on merit". That clearly excludes him!

  • Theo - 2012-06-07 22:56

    Zuma said the "ANC should elect leaders on merit." "They are absolutely important to guide us, the African National Congress, the organisation of comrades, not of friends." WHAT ! Merit not friends ? Now thats a new one for our Mr President.

  • henryian73 - 2012-06-07 23:01

    Dingaan the second.......

  • kingpin.molema - 2012-06-07 23:25

    Eish!! The sooner he realise that he is an embarassment to this country the better.

      Linda - 2012-06-08 08:27

      He doesnt care how much he embarrasses SA - he has managed to spend hundreds of millions (if not billions) of rands of taxpayers money on himself and his family to live like rockstars for centuries to come. This is all that is important to him - and he has achieved his goal.

  • Erna - 2012-06-07 23:48

    1. Rome is burning and the president is electioneering. 2. 'Leaders are elected on merit' - they must have got it hopelessly wrong when they elected Zuma!

  • Nicolaas - 2012-06-07 23:59

    Zoomer, should you not have said this " you steal the tax payers by corruption, renovating your harem for R 64 million,employ corrupt cronies as a favor because they helped me to oust Mbeki so that I can afford expensive suits, marry 6 wives, have illegitamet children, you commit a crime, and have no right to do so"

  • Millos Mpofu - 2012-06-08 00:45

    Stupid this is a war . Zuma is a stupid because he is a Zulu or because he is a black leader of the country . But the truth is white government fail and their were too much corruption to them and why we have stress when Zuma want a second term but Xhosa rule 15years no complain all this thing of corruption was cause by the second president because of leasely work

      Azande - 2012-06-08 04:48

      @Millos, the minute you comprehend that you have to go school to sharpen your thinking capability and rid your thickness will be the minute you will be doing justice to you and your fellow blacks like me. Your comment is totally absurd and embarrassing.

      Nkululeko - 2012-06-08 08:03

      @Millos Mpofu, thanks for a good comment, to add on that, the main reason why the whites are commenting like this, is because now they can that the leadership is not in their hands anymore, now they are trying by all means to discredit whoever is in power. This is not for the first time with Zuma if you remeber, even with Mandela Himself, at first there were talking all nonsense they like about him, including comments like "there is no prisnor that can rule the country", as a result, until late 2004 or 2005, Mandela's name was still on the list of "terrorists" in America, just because America was led by another stupid G.W Bush. Even Thabo Mbeki suffered the consequences of being black leading the whites. So, I'm trying to show you that, this critisism is old. Then we have people like Azande, I really can't blame her for commenting like that, she doesn't really know who she is, maybe her parents were also brain washed by the white, she can't even tell you who she is.

      colin.dovey - 2012-06-08 08:53

      The day when we can talk about the LEADERSHIP of this country being in the hands of a GOOD LEADER.....without reference to race.....THEN the young democracy will have arrived. But as long as you see this country being "not in the hands of the whites any more" - we will NEVER move forward. I have NO QUALMS about our LEADER being black, green, yellow, pink, or anything in between - as long as they are not corrupt, self-seeking criminals, and put the PEOPLE of South Africa FIRST...SERVING the PEOPLE, not themselves...and the ANC at the moment is too divided at the moment to see the wood for the trees.

      Azande - 2012-06-08 10:28

      @Nkululeko, you are the one brainwashed by JZ and ANC. I am a member of the ANC but what is currently going is totally unacceptable. It is common cause that JZ is a total disgrace in the history of our democratic leaders and tribalizing his criticism is absurd and totally out of line. Let me explain JZ's conduct, 1. unprotected sex with an HIV+ woman while having wives already - aldutery and idiocy 2. the shower stupid explaination - idiocy 3. his spate of dubious appointments which in fact were declacred unlawful by the court - stupidity 4. Impregnanting your friend's daughter twice - aldutery and idiocy 5. Protecting criminals - stupid puppet 6. Up spiraling corruption rate - greedy and selfish 7. Service Delivery protests that destroying the infrastructure we built - ignorant and selfish I can put another guys better realise before it is too late that JZ is destroying this country.

      Jacqui - 2012-06-08 13:25

      Nkululeko, like usual your rantings are neither here nor there. Climb out the pit.

      Jacqui - 2012-06-08 13:26

      Xavier, I can't agree with you more.

  • Hudayfah - 2012-06-08 01:04

    'Zuma who was showered with praise' Come on guys stop with the name calling hehehe. On a more serious note, why would they praise this man? Is that conference filled with zombies? The country is in turmoil and the guy behind it gets praised. Can you believe this rubbish? There is Something seriously wrong with some people. Theres just no other explanation.

      Nicolaas - 2012-06-08 02:49

      @Hudayfah, there is a logical explanation. Does the word stupid not come to mind? I mean, how the hell can a man be praised for leading a country down the drain?

  • Azande - 2012-06-08 04:52

    Every time I look at JZ I feel like puking, its so unfortunate. He is an oxygen thief.

  • dennis.vermaak.5 - 2012-06-08 05:50

    "The ANC has always fought for the national interest, and not the few." AND this idiot made this statement ???????????

      Jacqui - 2012-06-08 13:28

      Deeteem, in whose interest where they performing like idiots about a painting?. Was that in the national interst?. Zuma talks crap.

  • Christopher - 2012-06-08 06:01

    The Showerman said cANCer need 2 elect leaders on merit,bt he not been elected on merit on emotional well he's a president of primary level.Zuma step dawn cos u r not differ with Gadaffi n Hosni Moburak of Egypt who serving life sentence in jail.South Africa is a laughing stock cos of u?

  • Sewela Marcia Rapudubudu - 2012-06-08 06:06

    I don't like the man himself, whatever JZ

  • vernon.samuel.7 - 2012-06-08 06:14

    I suspect that South Africans would prefer a realistic leader who acknowledges problems and gets everyone involved to fix them. Not a delusional leader whose speeches are always dripping milk and honey and who always makes pie-in-the-sky promises and then fails to deliver on them. I feel sorry for JZ, either he has bad advisors or he really is clueless (or perhaps both). Either way, he does not inspire confidence or respect when he opens his mouth. If we are indeed stuck with the ANC as our ruling party \till Jesus comes\, I hope that they at least choose a leader who is able to lead effectively and command respect, and not another dithering idiot. In that respect, the Mangaung conference will be a watershed moment for us all, not just the ANC.

  • maseratifittipaldi - 2012-06-08 06:42

    "The ANC has always fought for the national interest, and not the few." Now, THAT was a good one! Haven't laughed so much in a long time. But hey! let's stop this idle chatter. Let's talk about women. Another beer?

  • Wayne - 2012-06-08 06:42

    JZ, Mangaung is going to highlight the deep divisions within the ANC. Cant wait to see the snot fly.

  • Charl - 2012-06-08 08:11

    Taking the country forward? with all of his corrupt cronies in charge the only direction we are going is backwards.

  • Vince.York - 2012-06-08 08:16

    Duarte & Mantashe are about the worst face that the anc & government can push before the citizens and the world - not to mention the silent rats like Pahad et al in the background as this zuma cabal thrust their indian friends into the financial control usurping what was previously white domination by a pseudo tribal hegemony. SA truly needs a change and far from the rabble ancyl, the YOUTH and new and educated voting force need to wake up fast to make good change NOW.

  • Loo - 2012-06-08 09:52

    "Mangaung must take South Africa forward," The only thing he's moving forward is his hips

  • Andrew - 2012-06-08 10:05

    They must discuss policy. First 5 minutes done and then we can continue fighting each other, organizing court dates, discuss who's more corrupt, and then have an expensive lunch while we laugh about the poor people voting for us

  • john.lonsdale.5 - 2012-06-08 10:27

    Lets hope it is Water(Shed) and not Johnnie Walker Blue paid for by the Tax payer.

  • Jacqui - 2012-06-08 13:14

    May they all drown then.

  • gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-06-08 13:49

    Zuma urged party members to use the conference to make the ANC stronger. How so if he is the weakest link.

  • Siphiwo - 2012-06-08 16:11

    Mangaung will be a water shed again?....wasn't Polokwane the one?....where next?.....turning around in circles yet!!!!!!!!

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