Manuel calls for Malema probe

2011-10-08 11:11

Johannesburg - Minister in the Presidency Trevor Manuel says all individuals with power over political processes should be open to public scrutiny, including ANC Youth League leader Julius Malema, according to a report on Saturday.

Manuel told United Kingdom-based Channel 4, in an interview for a documentary on Friday, that officials should be transparent about their finances.

Asked specifically if this should apply to Malema, he said: "I do think that he should [be transparent], I think that all of us who have influence over political processes should be open to scrutiny."

Manuel's comments follow numerous allegations of corruption and tender fraud which have plagued the league president.
He had been set to appear at an African National Congress disciplinary hearing on Thursday, facing charges of bringing the ANC into disrepute and sowing division within party ranks.

He recently said the ANCYL would send a team to Botswana to consolidate local opposition parties and help bring about regime change.

Charged with him are ANCYL spokesperson Floyd Shivambu, deputy president Ronald Lamola, treasurer general Pule Mabe, secretary general Sindiso Magaqa and deputy secretary general Kenetswe Mosenogi.

His hearing was postponed to October 15 because of his ill health.

Malema was admitted to hospital on Wednesday for flu-like symptoms which the youth league described as "not major".

"He was discharged this morning," said spokesperson for the Limpopo Medi-Clinic Istha McMillan on Saturday.

  • jamesbond - 2011-10-08 11:20

    "not major".???? DAMN!!!!!!!!

      So What If.. - 2011-10-08 11:30

      We were all waiting for something MAJOR. At least something that would take his life without prolonging his suffering... And our's!

      Thandiwe83 - 2011-10-08 11:50

      Malema did nothing to make the country free

      Andries Pretorius - 2011-10-08 11:58

      Dubula iMaaifoedie They are Tenderpreneurs They eat too much KFC They wear Breitling watches Their "poor" build R16 million houses They are atmitted to private hospital for "flu" They are pulling a Shaik Dubula iMaaifoedie

      Adrian - 2011-10-08 11:59

      @OldSA. Can you listen to yourself? It's OK to enrich himself at your expense. Corruption and thievery is never justified under any circumstances. Get some morals

      cliffarc - 2011-10-08 12:19

      - @ Adrian - Our problem in this country , is that the likes of these idiots dont pay income taxes . They are mostly recipients - not payers. They dont lose anything through corruption. Their problem will come when the Goose that has always laid the golden egg for them is no longer around.

      Met - 2011-10-08 12:19

      Foot and Mouth, maybe?

      WhyLikeThis - 2011-10-08 12:30

      Watch Juliass be back in hospital on the 14th, hopefully he gets a brain transplant, if they can find one small enough to fill the cavity.

      saabnut - 2011-10-08 12:48

      Well that's Trevor's Mangaung 2012 chances out the window...

      RACINGCAT - 2011-10-08 13:17

      Funny I also used to get sick on weekdays and then get better on saturdays .However my mother wasn't stupid so I had to take Saturday and Sunday in bed with her helping me with my homework just so I was healthy for Monday...

      Benny66 - 2011-10-08 13:21

      @WhyLikeThis. You obviously know very little about the human anatomy! You cannot transplant something if it does not exist.

      disappointed - 2011-10-08 14:08

      @dithala - defaming

      pants - 2011-10-08 14:18

      OldSA...... HAhhahahahaahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahaha......

      Oompie - 2011-10-08 14:38

      @oldSA and Pants - there is still hope for our country - there are still at least 3 people (me included!) that have a sense of humour!

      BOER - 2011-10-08 20:12

      Malemmer should eat more so he can get fatter so he can get a massive heart attack and persih. So feed the fat pig alot of Boerewors.

      Denise - 2011-10-10 04:11

      This documentary about South Africa was aired on Friday 7 October in the United Kingdom on Channel 4's UNREPORTED WORLD . New 'Unreported World' reporter Krishnan Guru-Murthy visits South Africa. Seventeen years after it was freed from apartheid, he finds a country in which violent protests against corruption and the lack of basic services mean its ambition to lead the continent as a prosperous democracy hangs in the balance. UK news reporter confronts Malema about the allegations of corruption and how he can afford his new home. Malema's response: 'It's none of your business. Mind your business.' Trevor Manuel, the senior government minister in charge of the national planning commission, tells UK news reporter that there is too much corruption, investigations are poor and conviction rates are too low. While he says that every instance of corruption is one too many, it's clear to the team that a lack of concerted action is affecting national security.

      Makgowaaraci - 2011-10-10 10:16

      The headline is misleading "Manuel calls for Malema probe" Manuel was not referring Julius but leadership as a whole including himself, i don't understand this obsession with Jujus, for you own info Juluis is here to stay, those who are using disciplinary processes to settle political scores we will deal with them at the branch, regional, provincial and national level not through media but within the rank and file of ANC members by the way we are not coming back from Mangaung with the same leadership especially the president.

      Freddie - 2011-10-10 10:30

      @dithala, you obviously have no idea of the definition of defamation. Stating a fat pig eats KFC is not defaming KFC, it is derogatory to the fat pig, but is also true so no defamation there either. Brilliant prose Andries Pretorius.

  • BigMoose - 2011-10-08 11:22

    A manual probe? I know a very good proctologist.

      Ripley - 2011-10-08 11:33

      Up the Moose ! Good one.

      SatanTheAccuser - 2011-10-08 11:41

      Typical SA, the rest of the world are probing automatically now.

      leonard - 2011-10-08 18:09

      @BigMoose........Nice comment.It is however even nicer to see that maybe Trevor has found his balls at long last.Now if he would just put them back in the right place,we might get some response from the evil ANC.Some advice for Trevor,join the opposition and make a meaningful change to the country.You are indeed wasted at the moment.

  • twolips - 2011-10-08 11:23

    The voice of sanity from Trevor! Now try put it into practice and see how far you get.

      cliffarc - 2011-10-08 11:55

      - If just half of the Anc ministers were clean and corruption free, there might be a 50/50 chance of stopping this runaway corruption train. The sad truth is that they are all guzzling at the gravy train table, from Zuma at the top,all the way down. It's a case of honour , or more aptly dihonour, amongst thieves that will forver prevent the Anc house of cards from ever tumbling. They view their ill- gotten self enrichment gains far above the interests of the country, it's people and our future prosperity. These Anc thieves are committing acts of treachery and treason against this land and it's survivability.

  • Aleg - 2011-10-08 11:23

    As with all other corrupt officials, tax payers' money will be wasted on a probe, but no one will be held accountable, nor will any disciplinary action be taken against the corruptions uncovered.

  • Lyndatjie - 2011-10-08 11:26

    Bloody Agent!

  • kingv - 2011-10-08 11:27

    Manuel is a fence sitting ANC puppet. He'll say what he's told to say when it benefits the ANC/Govt in the political tug-o-war with Malema. A real pity though, he's got huge clout with the Int. business world and he could make a world of difference if he wanted too.

      cliffarc - 2011-10-08 12:10

      - Agreed. However, his influence and relevance has been diminished in the new Anc order. He has been dropped from the A team and now sits on the bench. It also would'nt surprise me if he had his own little slice of the arms deal pie.

  • Ripley - 2011-10-08 11:31

    Fat boy's "flu-like symptoms" ?? I believe a Johnnie Walker Blue hangover is much the same as any other.

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      Ross - 2011-10-08 11:53

      Tel us more.

      cliffarc - 2011-10-08 12:28

      - Yep - the tradegy is for those that dont have a means of exit.

      Neles - 2011-10-08 12:31

      must be the luck of the irish

  • beicime - 2011-10-08 11:33

    Agreed. We can't have a parallel and unaccountable political force.

  • Doober - 2011-10-08 11:34

    serious editing error for the title of this article...MANUEL...NOT MANUAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      RACINGCAT - 2011-10-08 18:51

      Cause they didn't read the manual

  • Antwahn - 2011-10-08 11:36

    I say: probe him! (Please bend over, Juliarse)

      Dave50 - 2011-10-08 11:41

      With a big sharpe stick

  • Piet Opperman - 2011-10-08 11:43

    Misleading headline with Trevor Manuel's name misspelled. Embarrassing.

      JMan - 2011-10-10 07:41

      Agree Piet, he didn't "call for a probe"... he merely said 'he should be transparent'.... typical news24.

  • jerhone - 2011-10-08 11:50

    does that include old showerhead wetpants

  • Myth - 2011-10-08 11:55

    Malema thinks democratic freedom equates to a free ride.. oh, wait, so does the rest of the anc.

      omrisho - 2011-10-08 12:43

      old sa... two wrongs make a right, freaking grow up already

      Dave50 - 2011-10-08 13:34

      @oldsa no political party have been totally clean , how many farms had Botha before and after office. But they never reached the level this government have and to look at old sa, check how Bara hospital is now and was then, ask the people that have to go there for treatment, they openly say the ANC have turned back the health care clock for them by 30 years. forget the party fanatics who would do anything their party told and beleive it too.

  • Dimitri Papazoglou - 2011-10-08 11:56

    I am fed up with news24 posting these stories that have such loaded headlines. The headline leads the reader to think that it is a huge story and then once it is read we are left disappointed and irritable. this isn't the 'YOU' magazine. I come here for news not this junk!

      Ripley - 2011-10-08 12:11

      Wait till Malema gets his own back - then you'll definitely have a loaded headline - "Malema Calls for Manual Probe" !

      jimzimbo - 2011-10-08 12:38

      Did you watch the documentary Dimitri....did you see how fellow chaeted south africans are living....did you notice a burning fuse perhaps

  • SirFGrumpy - 2011-10-08 12:02

    Totally agree. He is guilty by association but it will be washed away again!

  • Johann - 2011-10-08 12:08

    I can not beleave that this maaifoedie, @!OldSA can actualy justify stealing!

      DW - 2011-10-08 17:11

      His name suggests that either he is a troll or he is making tongue in cheek statements.

  • Gaina - 2011-10-08 12:13

    About time his finances are probed, I can t figure why sars hasn t, he is living very rich for a poor African child. Why sars why???? And the rest of them.

  • Robin - 2011-10-08 12:17

    Doesnt sound like much of 'a call' to me...

  • Slapper - 2011-10-08 12:19

    Malema needs to be jailed first and them probed by some very big guys on the inside.

      Robin - 2011-10-08 12:24

      must be going well if you can check into hospital for a few days, just for a flu

  • 2zbunu - 2011-10-08 12:48

    >Juju is back on feet therefore we waiting for his DC. Now to ad on that Trevor Manuel is talking about the "probe" We r waiting 4 dat 1 as well.

      Robin - 2011-10-08 12:58

      you hoping for alot of rain..

  • dithala - 2011-10-08 14:06

    The UK media are the first to peak on our affairs, ever wondered why? we are the best and their thread.

      Jaydee64 - 2011-10-08 18:09

      Hmmmm...I think you meant SPEAK on our affairs, and their THREAT..Anyway..The UK and many other countries are the first to speak on SA's affairs for the simple reason that the world is watching very very closely that the ANC don't destroy the last stand of Africa..Every country in Africa controlled or ruled by a non white has crumbled..That's why they are the first to SPEAK on our affairs..That's my say..Ever visited Nigeria dithala?

      leonard - 2011-10-08 18:47

      @dithala......A bit of advice if I may.People like you,and there are many come onto a forum where you are so out of your depth that it is laughable.You slaughter MY mother tongue and your comments are akin to those who are brain dead.I would suggest you move to a forum that caters to your mother tongue which I would never venture into.

  • Buffalo - 2011-10-08 14:42

    Manuel wants malema to open himself up to a probe? Jeez-Lou-eez Trevor, never thought that you were . . . into that sort of thing. Asking malema to expose himself to public examination. Shame, would probably bring him into more disrepute than anything else that the little . . . chop has done on his own. Black boy with a little willie - shame.

  • IgRoodewal - 2011-10-08 15:10

    With a little bit of luck, it was seroconversion that made him ill...

  • Jay - 2011-10-08 16:11

    People need to start standing up and challenging these idiots. We need a lot more journalists to challenge politicians in interviews. Malema for one is not clever enough to respond properly, that why every time he gets challenged he gets angry and blames it all on the apartheid struggle and taking back what is 'rightly' theirs. Truth is he is taking it ALL and leaving the people who did the real fighting to suffer in shacks with no water or anything else for that matter.

  • cuckoo2011 - 2011-10-08 16:57

    EVERYONE - Please comment on this story!

  • ChiefJustice - 2011-10-08 18:25

    Minister in the Presidency Trevor Manuel that a pretty good idea the ANC might win Cape Town and maybe an 82% if they make Mr.Trevor Manuel the ANC party Leader. He's election song will be block the ANCYL from taken POWER...

  • Wilma - 2011-10-08 18:33

    Riggggggggggggggggghtttttt :>

  • qwerst - 2011-10-08 18:53

    An other Shabir Shaik playing the sick game so as not to be punished.Not only do we have a BANANA Republic we also have a BANANA justice system.

  • jaqui.hewett - 2011-10-08 19:57

    What a hypochondriac...admitted to hospital for a sniffle.

  • JMM - 2011-10-08 21:22

    The headline of ths article is disingenious to say the very least!! Trevor Manual was stating general principles related to the fact that "all individuals with power over political processes should be open to public scrutiny" When he was asked whether or not this should include Malema he said yes it should. That is MASSIVELY different from calling for a probe into Malema.

  • Michi2 - 2011-10-08 21:51

    Was hoping it was a serious case of Swine flu - but sadly, not the case

  • BardofAvon - 2011-10-08 22:04

    Malema is the poster child for basket-case black Africa.

  • maseratifitt - 2011-10-08 23:33

    Presumptuous pesky Polokwane political pervert picannin poses perplexing problem. Presidency proposes probing political party perfidy plus pilfered party power protecting prostituted profits.Perfect political power play pirouette preceding polls. People's perceptions paint poor picture portraying party politicians' priviledge.Pathetic penthouse playboys performing poorly. Paid profusely. Probe process presents potential procedural problems. Properly planned perfunctory probe precludes prickly press presence. Proceedings presumed Presidential party political preserve - public participation process permanently pending. Public protector parricidally paralyzed.

  • Craig Louw - 2011-10-09 02:18

    Nice alliteration there.

  • ex-pat - 2011-10-09 04:10

    The Channel Four programme was shown on Friday night, 7 October. It is called Trouble in the Townships, and shows that the West knows all about the corruption in South Africa. The expression of fear on Melema's face is a treat. Watch it:

  • Dondol - 2011-10-09 14:59

    Media is so obsesses with Juju. i mean anything that does nt even concern him they drag him into it. Leave juju alone

  • roth.eugen - 2011-10-09 17:56

    'Flu like symptoms'...????? Maybe Malema's 'sniffles' were not caused by a virus but by some white powder. I wonder if he had some major heart palpitations as well.

  • arne.tenvelden - 2011-10-09 22:12

    Why was Malema wearing a Chris Hani... T shirt when walking out of his hearing ?????? Does anyone else read what I see into this.

  • Nicolai - 2011-10-10 07:26

    I don't get what Manuel is doing int he ANC. He sounds more like a DA man?

  • Freddie - 2011-10-10 10:26

    @dithala, you obviously have no idea of the definition of defamation. Stating a fat pig eats KFC is not defaming KFC, it is derogatory to the fat pig, but is also true so no defamation there either. Brilliant prose Andries Pretorius.

  • mpiyakhe.dhlamini - 2011-10-15 12:41

    tenderpreneurship can destroy our economy,it has nothing to do with the free market

  • Kevin - 2011-10-15 12:58

    @ makgowaaraci. Not sure who the "we' is that you are referring to, but you make it sound like you are in with the ANC boys. So perhaps you could tell us how it will be 'dealt with' internally?? The usual big publicity beforehand and no result afterwards?? I know there has to be a lot of pay-offs negotiated, but trust me, that's not really why an enquiry is supposed to be held. Do me a favour, the ANC's disciplinary hearings couldn't scare a chicken. BTW please keep JuJu on the team, he is starting to show the international community what our politicians are REALLY like.

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