Mbalula praises call for economic freedom

2012-09-27 08:03

Johannesburg - The ANC Youth League must not apologise for calling for economic freedom and the nationalisation of mines, ANC national executive member Fikile Mbalula said on Wednesday.

"You are the only ones [ANCYL] who have opened the debate," Mbalula told students at Wits University in Johannesburg. He was speaking at the ANCYL's 68th anniversary lecture.

"Some of us in the movement are even afraid to utter the words economic freedom in our lifetime. What you must do comrades is to deepen your understanding of economic freedom.

"It's the song everyone must sing about. Even the left in this country, the Communist Party, Cosatu, [and] some of your comrades are afraid to say economic freedom."

This was because it was associated with individuals, Mbalula said, referring to expelled ANCYL leader Julius Malema.

Total liberation

He told the youth league that freedom was about them.

"It is about total liberation and if you are not going to talk about it, who else will? Why shouldn't the youth be obsessed with economic power?"

Mbalula said ANCYL must be careful because when the "second revolution" came it could be hijacked by opportunists.

"They will take it and tear us apart and run with the economic struggle."

The ANCYL has been critical of the second transition which was proposed and debated at the African National Congress' policy conference in June.

Mbalula said the second transition could not be reduced to freedom songs and leadership.

"If you start singing you'll never understand the debate," he said.

"A transition is not an event, it's a process and a journey." He was referring to songs in support of ANC leaders.

Members of the party supporting President Jacob Zuma would show two fingers indicating a second term, while others would show the soccer sign for a change over.

These songs and signs were killing the debate, said Mbalula.

Voice of reason suppressed

Mbalula said the voice of reason was being suppressed by who could sing the loudest.

"The politics of today is reduced to the politics of freedom songs. That is why we don't know what our future and vision is," said Mbalula.

He told the ANCYL not to allow the organisation to be suppressed.

"Think comrades... then you will find allies [in the ANC]."

The ANCYL must not be scared to say that they were unhappy with the leadership elected at the ANC's elective conference in Polokwane in 2007.

Mbalula said Mangaung was going to be different to Polokwane.

In Polokwane, the youth league was fighting for political change not economic freedom.

"Elect people [at Mangaung] and give them a programme of action... Tie them to that," he said.

Mbalula received a rousing welcome from the ANCYL members at Wits University.

The students sang songs in support of him, deputy president Kgalema Motlanthe and Malema.

The ANCYL is calling for Mbalula to be elected the ruling party's secretary general at the elective conference in December. It is also calling for President Jacob Zuma to be replaced by Motlanthe.

Nominations for the ANC leadership are expected to open next month.

  • charlesdumbwin.dumbwin - 2012-09-27 08:22

    Mbalula tell me, how is this going to help our fragile politics in South Africa? There are civilised ways to get things done. Stirring up the people into a rioting frenzy is so stone-age and belongs back in the cave. Grow up man! And get with the modern global economy.

      Gcina.PSJ.Sotiya - 2012-09-27 08:27

      There is a big difference between \rioting frenzy\ and a debate!

      sean.carbutt - 2012-09-27 08:28

      OK now enough of this "we want crap", Mbalula, tell us mere mortals how you intend redistributing the wealth? How are you and your retards going to improve the lives of the poor? How will you better SA? You are very good at the std "we want speech", but as yet, you have not offered nor given a single viable solution to the very problems that you and the retards are bitching about.

      heathway.master - 2012-09-27 10:44

      Well at least one the most unexplained phrases "Economic Freedom" as so favoured by Malema has finally been spelt out to me by call INS on local radio stations. It stands for Nationalization of all the countries mines and industries with no compensation, taking over all commercial farms with no compensation, and the complete re-distribution of all wealth from the rich to the poor. Truly magnificent Malema with you tremendous foresight, and the best of luck once you have produced a South Africa true to your messiah and godly like vision. You are truly a man of the times, and will always be remembered for the salvation of SA and the creator of “Economic Freedom” for the oppressed masses. A road to everlasting wealth and privilege based on the “Give me for nothing and zero effort” principle.

  • morama.sebata - 2012-09-27 08:25

    Now you are talking Mbalula but i tend to differ ith you because there's no competancy in the whole ANC leaders!

      sanda.mnyazi - 2012-09-27 09:01

      Hence they are calling for change in leadership, Zuma's error has been the worst since 1994

      riad.mahomed - 2012-09-27 09:32

      @morama.sebata & sanda.mnyazi: Forgive me for asking but please enlighten me about Economic Freedom being achieved by Nationalization, and how such freedom would reach the people of Mzansi. Would this come from increasing social grants to a broader spectrum of beneficiaries or do you suppose this would be in the form of subsidizing the people in some form or the other. If this is the case (subsidizing), how would this reach the people in the rural areas. Like I said, please forgive me for asking such questions since I sincerely would like to understand this concept (Nationalization) of Economic Freedom because to me, Economic Freedom means self-empowerment through education and entrepreneurial skills which ultimately create employment.

      ed.gutsche - 2012-09-27 10:43

      yes it was an error Sanda, yet who made it? it was not just the ANC< it was the ANCYL, COSATU etc. Worst of all, it was an electorate who voted EN MASSE for someone who appealed to them. how can you change that? not easy. it is more concerning to me that the masses will vote for somebody who is corrupt and to put it bluntly, thicker than pig$*it than Zuzu or Juju himself...

      infijar.ken - 2012-09-27 11:30

      Funny Ed, because as far as I am aware only a few hundred people actually voted for Zuma. The "EN MASSE" voted for the ANC. They were then were presented with the man who would select the Cabinet, from all the people who chose themselves to be an MP, and ultimately to represent the country.

  • Gcina.PSJ.Sotiya - 2012-09-27 08:25

    It's true these revolunionary songs will not get us anywher, coz at the end of the day the youth will still be financially challenged, and unless we(the youth) do something abt it, ther will be no change!

      bennie.kruger.5 - 2012-09-27 08:48

      Start doing something constructive springs to mind , start your own business control your own destiny - but the problem is you cant you desire a baas, and when you have a baas youre someones bitch so thats how the cookie crumbles.

  • sj.fourie.56 - 2012-09-27 08:26

    Mbalula stick to what u know boy. Sport. Dont meddle where u know ziltch about. Shut ur trap n move on.

      sanda.mnyazi - 2012-09-27 09:03

      And you're saying that because you know better than him right? Riiiiiiiight!!!

  • atholl.canterbury - 2012-09-27 08:29

    Less than 3 months ago, the 'Second Transition' was rejected : 'The majority of the 11 commissions on the ANC's strategy and tactics policy discussion document on Tuesday (26 June) rejected the second transition document'. === What is the Second Transition ===== Goebbells-Zuma: 'Zuma telling delegates during his opening address on Tuesday (26 June) that the country has completed the first transition – which was mainly about political freedom – and now needed to shift into the second transition, which focuses on economic and social transformation' === What is the Second Transition ===== Truth : Create a problem - then point to the problem (socio-economic/education/crime/corruption/chaos) in order to : .... nullify any voice of reason (the enemy) by associating the problem with your opponent (the enemy). .... associate yourself as the one with the solution to the problem (that you created). === Why create a problem == What is the Plan ? === In order to disguise your hidden intent for {Power}, {Control} and {Money} == { in short, to subvert, diminish and destroy the Constitution } == === Where is the best example ? == Zimbabwe, Nazi germany. and Angola, Kenya === How else can the 2ns Transition be translated ? === {Divide} by : ... SA - race ... Zimbabwe - Ethnicity ... Nazi Germany - Religion ... Kenya - Ethnicity ... Angola - Tribalism. the {Rule}

  • bheki.dingiswayo - 2012-09-27 08:33

    Please help me- What is economic freedom? You can even refer me to the document/book that indicates how it works?

      simon.richansen - 2012-09-27 09:05

      I agree. Would love to know how u get there!

      raymond.buis.3 - 2012-09-27 09:28

      It's a slogan nothing more nothing less. Something to chant. A catch phrase to trigger mob mentality. check it out.

      mantothieve.missingman - 2012-09-27 12:28

      Accoridng to the ANCYL its when each member drives a range rover owns a couple of mansions and dont have to work for it.

  • sj.fourie.56 - 2012-09-27 08:38

    Admit it when u cant do something u know nothing about.

  • phumi.ntlabati - 2012-09-27 08:39

    I concur to what our SG with content is saying! and he deserves around of Amandla applouse for being couragious! This is the kind of decisive leadership we are talking about! The reason the neoliberals and their newly found freinds from the so called left, hate Julius Malema is because the topic of Econimic freedom threatens their narrow interests!

      DrGonzoSA - 2012-09-27 08:43

      What exactly is economic freedom?

      Desilusionada - 2012-09-27 08:45

      OK so YOU explain what is economic freedom and how does it threaten narrow interests (whatever those are)?

      phumi.ntlabati - 2012-09-27 08:59

      Economic freedom is when we reduce the gap of inequalities, and redistribute the wealth of our economy to favour the majority, instead of the few white males!

      sean.redmond3 - 2012-09-27 09:01

      Please explain EF.

      James - 2012-09-27 09:22

      @Phumi, you are exactly where the problem lies. You think economic freedom is redistribution of wealth which you had no input at making. Why are you and your people unable to produce your own wealth? Or anything for that matter? Because at grassroots level (school) you are too lazy to work hard at obtaining an education and creating something for yourself. Aren't you ashamed that you can't make it on your own?

      Desilusionada - 2012-09-27 09:41

      @phumi.ntlabati "Economic freedom is when we reduce the gap of inequalities, and redistribute the wealth of our economy to favour the majority, instead of the few white males!" OK now this glib, cliché sounding sentence laden with racism sound great to the uneducated, but you being superior, should then please tell: 1) What is the wealth of our economy? 2) The biggest net value of our economy is currently being distributed to 14 million grant receivers to the tune of R 12 Bn per month. The largest per capita welfare state in the world. This favour the majority as the majority is black. So how does this promote economic freedom for them? 3) Are you suggesting that a "few white males" as the highest income earners in South Africa, should have their salaries "re-distributed" to increase the income of the rest of the population by R1.14 per annum? 4) What about the black high income earners, are they exempt from this re-distribution? Such as Mr. Malema? 5) What is the "gap of inequalities"? Are you suggesting that all people are equal, and thus should earn the same incomes. Except the leaders that are more equal and thus should earn more? 6) If Economic Freedom means what you believe/espouse to mean, how do you justify a R 250 000.00 Breitling watch? The fancy suit and the the nice new car and uncompleted house? Oh when you have achieved this Freedom and you find that the education level of the freed is not enough to sustain this freedom, what then?............

      roger.hess.14 - 2012-09-27 09:55

      @ Phumi: your explanation of "economic freedom" clearly shows you have no clue about what you are demanding, other than it could put money in your pocket that you didn't earn in any way, shape or form. Try getting an education 1st.

      christian.g.lee - 2012-09-27 11:40

      Right, Phumi - I think you missed the definition of Economic Freedom: "The freedom to prosper within a country without intervention from a government or economic authority. Individuals are free to secure and protect his/her human resources, labor and private property. Economic freedom is common in capitalist economies and must incorporate other civil liberties to be deemed as truly free." Where, pray tell, do you find the words 'redistribution' or 'few white males' in that definition? If you have your own definition, please coin it differently, seeing as the words 'Economic' and 'Freedom' have already been defined under the term Economic Freedom, and it has sweet blue F-all to do with 'a few white males' or taking anything from anyone. Have a nice day ;)

      roger.hess.14 - 2012-09-27 13:03

      @ Skyeberry; you are actually the 1st person who gave the CORRECT answer to this question! Good to finally hear someone who knows what they are talking about. @ Phumi: Pay attention to his words and you will see that it's nothing even close to that crap being spread by JM and his lunatics.

  • DrGonzoSA - 2012-09-27 08:42

    Rule number one of a politician: Tell your audience what they want to hear. P.S. The first step to economic freedom is to eliminate corruption

  • kuno.tschumi.5 - 2012-09-27 08:42

    the idiots just don't get it. economic freedom doesn't mean to take it away from one person and giving it to the next. its not a robin hood thing. sure nationalization of mines it the way to go... government has proven beyond any doubt that they cannot organize a p...up in a brewery. anything they touch is going south to the dogs. eskom a mess, service delivery a mess... oh well the whole country a mess. its time for change, time to get rid of these thieving idiots, time for someone to step up to the plate and do the job for a change. Voters remember next time...

  • jannie.kotze.7 - 2012-09-27 08:43

    Econommic Freedom the cANCer's way is to steal everything from the White people by means of thieving, corruption, fraud, murder robberies etc. To anc every act of crime is a hero's deed and they get promoted as incompatent idiots to the highest office. Nation building is definately on part of their agenda.

  • zwelakhe.lekgoro - 2012-09-27 08:47

    fikile is right the songs shift focus we need to nuderstand more about nationalization of mines and economic freedom rather than sing more about it

      paul.fevrier - 2012-09-27 09:06

      I agree with you, no use singing about it, that will achieve nothing. Economic freedom stems from an education and hard work. There are no short cuts here. Nationalisation infers a dividing of wealth, economic freedom can only be created in an environment where wealth is created through hard work. "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask rather what you can do for your country". Wise words indeed.

  • Tony Lapson - 2012-09-27 08:48

    "economic freedom" is the marketing term for communism. Just like apple calls a simple high resolution screen a "retina display", it fools the sheep into thinking its something better.

      sean.redmond3 - 2012-09-27 08:56

      It is.

  • zimzon.zimzon - 2012-09-27 08:49

    Start open debate on economic freedom, what does it mean in practice, get some tv shows going that we can see what these guys are suggesting and get some business people involved and do these debates in open..

  • aaster.druzalebete - 2012-09-27 08:51

    AYE SABA AMAGWULA " "It's the song everyone must sing about. Even the left in this country, the Communist Party, Cosatu, [and] some of your comrades are afraid to say economic freedom."

  • jannie.kotze.7 - 2012-09-27 08:52

    Fikile Mbalula what is your deffinition of economic freedom. Has that anything to do with hard work, taking personal risk, doing business in an honest way with integraty - not sit on your backside and wait for handouts. I doubt it! You know only one way and that is genocide and pocket the takings with blood on your hands!!!!!!

  • sean.redmond3 - 2012-09-27 08:54

    Zambian mines are now privately owned, and are making a profit. Mbalula, I thought you had some brains, I was wrong.

  • jaco.human.562 - 2012-09-27 08:56

    The only way you will achieve economic freedom is when you start working, you will not achieve it from taking it from others. Dicipline, hard work, endurance are great attributes to economic freedom. Toy toying and the cANCer will leave you just where you are.

  • Marcel Marais - 2012-09-27 08:57

    The youth of now are lazy, useless, dum why cant you the youth work for wat you want and need!!! I started working when I was 17 from early in the morning till late at night and I got wat i deserved and all you the youth want is to sit back talk about stuff you dont know of and want everything for free!!! the best of all iets mostly the black youth i am not saying whites are not the same but al you hear about is ANCYL!! whites and black youth must pick up there lazy asses and work for what u whant you have to start small dont expect to earn big from day 1

  • bfvillet - 2012-09-27 08:57

    Nationalisation Now.Dont back down

      zimzon.zimzon - 2012-09-27 09:22

      Yes please! I also want a farm and a mine!

      burningdogz - 2012-09-27 09:56

      Hmmm, Zambian mines were nationalised. Did not work out very well. The realities of nationalisation vs. Privatization is horribly distorted to the masses. Sadly I think your too high on 'rally speak' to debate the matter with objectivity and reason.

  • David.J.Swart - 2012-09-27 08:59

    Not sure what economic freedom they want is all about. Everyone in this country is free to start a business and contribute to the economy. Unfortunately this means you have to actually work - it does not come for free. Nationalising mines etc and business does not guarantee that all will benefit - this has been shown in Africa in the past - only a few money-grabbers benefit. The solution is to stop giving things for free and draining money that could be used on work-creating projects. In short, get off your @sses and do some work!

      raymond.buis.3 - 2012-09-27 09:32

  • simon.richansen - 2012-09-27 09:04

    I would love someone to explain what this economic freedom that is being branded around means and how exactly you get to it? Should we be using Malema as an example? Is it a corrupt government tender? There is only one way to freedom and that is through education, both at a basic level and tertiary. But this is a long term solution and will not line the pockets of the current leadership.

  • mlungisi.mwelase.9 - 2012-09-27 09:06

    Fikile you are a coward, why don't you say it yourself? You want these Kids to get into trouble by doing your dirt job. We know that u against Mantashe u have leg to stand. You know that JZ Camp wins u might loose job that why u are barking frm the corner, come out coward.

  • mlungisi.mwelase.9 - 2012-09-27 09:07

    Fikile you are a coward, why don't you say it yourself? You want these Kids to get into trouble by doing your dirt job. We know that u against Mantashe u have leg to stand. You know that JZ Camp wins u might loose job that why u are barking frm the corner, come out coward.

  • mantothieve.missingman - 2012-09-27 09:12

    I am now free but I am stil dom

  • ontlhabanetsesteve.baepile - 2012-09-27 09:24

    Economic freedom means stealing from gorverment.

  • conrad.marshall - 2012-09-27 09:32

    Fikile pandering to the masses.... the "economic freedom" they talk about is simply in their minds: taking from the whites and giving to the blacks. the whites are blamed for their "inequality", hence they are the ones oppressing blacks economically. God help us....

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-09-27 09:44

    Second revolution?. I must have slept through the first.

  • burningdogz - 2012-09-27 09:49

    Highschool kids in uniform at the Malema vigil. Highschool kids in uniform picketing with the ANCYL during school hours demanding jobs on their posters. All this directly prior to the exams. You want jobs and economic freedom? Stay in school, focus in class, study, get some decent qualifications. Work hard with your qualification to get a job or take the entrepreneurial route and start your business. Profit. Save. Get rich. That is economic freedom. You think Bill Gates got rich from jumping up and down with a cardboard? Then you moan because them evil whites are getting good jobs even 20 years after the fall of apartheid? Because while you are dancing with the ANCYL getting your begging stance sorted the evil white kids are in school getting themselves educated. Equality does not mean getting the same results for doing less work. You want to be respected and taken seriously? Then stop throwing tantrums like children and start acting like professionals. I am still waiting for someone to give me a clear definition of economic freedom. Or is it another meaningless term the people chant because it is the latest trend like YOLO.

      Sidney Olifant - 2012-09-27 10:03

      AMEN burningdogz man you should b president even in the apartheid era some of those went to school during that time have top jobs even Fikile him nee man guys what are you preaching to our children

      keith.ngobeni - 2012-09-27 14:59

      @BURNINGDOGZ, bravo to you my brother/sister your comment is well thought and put. The problem with our youth is anything which sound like a quick-buck scheme they'll support it that's why our universities are full of foreign students.

  • unathi.l.menze - 2012-09-27 10:31

    All south African politicians are good for is debating issues in air-conditioned confrence halls, let's stop talking and start acting

  • peter.jefferies.90 - 2012-09-27 10:47

    At the risk of sounds very stupid!! what do these clowns mean when they talk about economic freedom??

  • lwazi.zibi.7 - 2012-09-27 11:04

    Something tells me this guy will in his lifetime lead this country...

  • andy4real - 2012-09-27 11:21

    Spoken like a true revolutionary

  • phillip.mvundura.5 - 2012-09-27 12:49

    You have to have politics of entreprize, open, honest and competitive politics, and not the one of Julius M, which is only about power change, which he calls (POLOTICS). Its not gone work in this country otherwise all will crumble in our faces.

  • foxiloxi - 2012-09-27 13:05

    Financial freedom will only ever be achieved by getting a decent education and working hard, You CANNOT get economic freedom from redistributing wealth,it has been tried for centuries and it has NEVER EVER EVER EVER worked, the masses end up starving while the elite live the lives of kings,Please go to North Korea and see what a government owned economy does!!! Wake the F*&* UP, get off your backside and start making your own wealth!!!!!!!!!!!

  • mudzingiri - 2012-09-27 20:45

    I have reservation on how populist leaders would want to implement their nationalization. Will nationalization bring wealth to ordinary south African per se or will this increase corruption which everyone is not denying that its rife. While having a stake in mine means reaping profits it also means Government costs should be on the increase. I am waiting for that day when all those who praise nationalization will be able to implement it successfully and all or majority of South Africans will enjoy.My own policy position is simple, South Africa must encourage foreign nationals to increase the scarce capital in the economy but should ensure that it draw policies that force them to build physical structures and industries to export finished products. If one is forced to build say a dam in SA he can not carry back the dam if he decides to disinvest. Look, ladies and Gentlemen, the current government has quite a lot to improve the welfare of its people. Proper use of taxes can not be under estimated. Mark my words, all policies that will fully develop this economy are not the populist. Of course as politicians when ever we talk people should clap hands. If they do not clap hands then the vote is difficult to come by. Have we ever looked back and examine the number of beneficiaries of BBBEE. If they are a majority in South Africa then lets move ahead with our Nationalization. If we want some honey lets be prepared to be stung by bees.

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