Mdluli's job a 'police matter'

2012-05-24 20:55

Cape Town - Police crime intelligence boss Richard Mdluli is still at work and his possible suspension is a matter "between employer and employee", national police spokesperson Brigadier Lindela Mashigo said on Thursday.

Earlier this week President Jacob Zuma declined to be drawn on the merits of an earlier decision to reinstate Mdluli to the SAPS, telling in the National Assembly that law enforcement agencies were "operating as they should".

"He [Mdluli] is still in the service," Mashigo said.

"He is working here. There has been no suspension. This is a matter between the employer and employee."

Zuma had been asked by Democratic Alliance parliamentary leader Lindiwe Mazibuko whether he had been informed of all the considerations resulting in the decision to reinstate Mdluli.

He was also asked to give his view on whether the considerations were "rational" and whether Mdluli met all the requirements for performing the duties of his post.

In his response, Zuma noted that Police Minister Nathi Mthethwa had appointed a task team to investigate some aspects of this matter, while the Inspector General of Intelligence was also probing aspects that were within her mandate.

However, ultimately, the appointments, suspensions, reinstatements, transfers, and all staff movements in government departments were the responsibility of those departments "and not the president".

There were government prescripts and procedures in place to deal with performance issues within departments.

The president did not manage the performance of officials in government departments, Zuma said.

Mdluli was first suspended in 2011 when he was arrested on fraud and murder allegations, but that suspension was lifted in March this year.

Mthethwa announced on 9 May that Mdluli would be moved from crime intelligence to a position in the office of the deputy national police commissioner for operations, Fannie Masemola.

On Monday, Mashigo declined to confirm whether acting police chief Nhlanhla Mkhwanazi's office had signed a notice to suspend Mdluli.

"If somebody has been given a notice of intention to suspend it is an internal matter," Mashigo said.

"If and when somebody is suspended, then I can make it public," he added.

Earlier Mkhwanazi told SABC radio news: "I signed a notice of suspension on Sunday [13 May] but other than that I'm not sure... was it delivered and what's the latest on it."

On Friday, Mdluli told the public broadcaster he had not been served with a suspension notice.

Mkhwanazi said it was up to "a deputy national commissioner" to communicate to Mdluli.

  • danny.levin.351 - 2012-05-24 21:05

    you bunch of morons! maybe in a police state like Zim or Iran it is a "police business". SA is a DEMOCRACY and the public has a lot to say about the appointment of corrupt criminals to any public service jobs, ESPECIALLY in the police! Mdludli must be prosecuted (by a non corrupt prosecutor) and if he is acquitted he can take a public office. however, we al know that the chances are greater that he will be PAPA's girlfried...

      Squeegee - 2012-05-24 21:13

      The ANC just does not get it. In a democracy this argument does not work. We realize that the chief spy and his grandmother have all sorts of goodies on our Presidents open Zipper policy, but we want to be rid of him!

      Oscar - 2012-05-24 21:33

      How do you explain to a grade 4 child he is totally can't because he doesn't have the intellectual capacity to understand that he does not understand....and that is the problem with Zuma.

      Charles-Bronson - 2012-05-24 21:49

      Dear ANC moron thiefs, please remove your useless tottie-less president also, and all our usesless ANC leaders.

      thozi - 2012-05-24 23:37

      OK, The Spear, Mdluli, the crying Advocate, City Press, lime-light seeker Blade, etc, etc. But where the hell is Juju? If I don't hear from him in the next two hours, I'm lodging an urgent application in the Cons Court...

      carpejugulim - 2012-05-25 07:41

      With all the exposure that the prez has been getting over the last week or so you can't really expect him to multitask can you? Yes Mdluli should go but that isn't really top of the priority list as he is still trying to work out how he is going to wriggle out of the Cele issue

  • Phepishi - 2012-05-24 21:11

    But other have been suspended pending investigations. Consistency please

  • Bob - 2012-05-24 21:15

    This is unacceptable arroganceā€¦! Does this fool not stop to think that the tax payers pay his salary and he is therefore fully accountable in ALL respects to the public!

  • Rob - 2012-05-24 21:17

    Any politically influenced appointment in the public service becomes a public matter. Any suggestion that this is not true needs the strongest possible political and public exposure and resistence...come on DA doe your stuff. This mess is the direct result of politicising the public service. Of course there needs to be ministers that are political appointments, but it would be more effective if EVERYONE else was a professional non-political appointment.

  • siliziwem - 2012-05-24 21:18

    hold on, are we dealing with Chuck Norris or Steven Seagul here? It seems as if this Mdluli is untouchable!

      Squeegee - 2012-05-24 21:20

      No he just stinks like a skunk...

  • Zulu - 2012-05-24 21:20

    I remember listening to one of Malema's interviews. He said every time he phones the Secretery general, he greets the secretary gerenal first and then he greets Mdluli because he knows Mdluli would be listening

      farmfreund - 2012-05-24 21:26

      Zulu LoL, The Anc is under pressure at the moment they start to make mistakes and you will see it will get worse now the race is on who will lead the ANC in the next elections, the people are loosing patients with service delivery. and the government are so under pressure that they cant consentrate on the basic and simple daily tasks.

  • Christian J Denyschen - 2012-05-24 21:21

    This guy must have some serious dirt on them.

  • eric.schollar - 2012-05-24 21:21

    What an incredibly ignorant thing to say!

  • maseratifittipaldi - 2012-05-24 21:21 a matter "between employer and employee"... SO? The people are the EMPLOYER and Government (including SAPS) is the Employee. Don't you understand D E M O C R A C Y ?? The Employer controls the employee...not the other way round !!

  • bobi.tsotetsi - 2012-05-24 21:24

    Mdluli again u see this is wat we shud be talkin abt not cryin adv and potraits. now its employee employer story

  • gee.raaf - 2012-05-24 21:36

    Incompetent fools.

  • Mark - 2012-05-24 21:53

    Brigadier Lindela Mashigo needs to be reminded that Mdluli's Employers are public servants and thus paid by the tax-paying public. That makes Joe Soap and I, Mashigo's bosses. Do your job Brigadier and stop appearing to protect the criminals in your midst.

  • Jacques AkaShreko Stander - 2012-05-24 21:57

    That's what happens when you appoint people into positions above their IQ,no experience ,no character ,no respect,no ........... You know how the rest goes . SAD

  • daniel.motlhatlhedi - 2012-05-24 22:07

    so Thuli Madozela is not looking into Mdluli's matter.

  • Crracker - 2012-05-24 22:17

    Isn't it a South African matter? It is not recalled that the country belongs to the police. Dammit. This is OUR country.

      Bless Boswell - 2012-05-24 22:26

      It's fast becoming a police state, and it has nothing to do with us?

  • Crracker - 2012-05-24 22:19

    Some elements in this country are busy to seriously annex the country for themselves. The rest must just bend.

  • Erna - 2012-05-24 22:23

    It is only the president's 'responsibilitx' when the decision favour is in his favour. These people lie so much that in the end the truth never comes out. They even lie under oath.

      Erna - 2012-05-24 22:27

      Sorry bad grammar but you catch the drift!

  • Grant Howard - 2012-05-24 22:27

    Forget the Rhino. Somebody better save the buck because it's getting passed from one end to the other.

  • frans.vanderpoll - 2012-05-24 22:33

    Some of these big shots seem to have less backbone than a common garden snail. To scared to take a decision.

  • gregory.jurgens - 2012-05-25 05:56

    Ultimately Zuma is protecting his criminal cadre, so safe the bullsh**t speeches for your illiterate followers.

  • Michael Kleber - 2012-05-25 06:02

    the SAPS is becoming a joke by these appointments of crooked people to lead it , its time an honest and competent person was appointed so that the men in uniform can feel proud to wear the uniform

  • anthro45 - 2012-05-25 07:21

    By saying that, Zuma gave them permission to do whatever they like.

  • david.diego.14 - 2012-05-25 07:41

    we choose the wrong people to lead us,just look our president he is busy protecting his friend MDLULI the one who was convicted with the murder case,JACOB ZUMA he don't deserve to be our leader again too much corruption finish

  • franco.beukman - 2012-05-25 07:55

    Again ppl becareful who u Vote for. Just like the old NP the ANC should have left with apartheid. We the ppl have the power to make changes in our SA . Let's not keep bumping our heads against the same old black nd white block.

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