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Media misled on Zuma speech, presidency claims

2012-11-02 21:02

Cape Town - Some media reports on President Jacob Zuma's opening address to the National House of Traditional Leaders on the traditional courts bill are "grossly misleading", the presidency said on Friday.

"[They] indicate that the president has wholeheartedly supported the bill, and has deliberately left out his acknowledgements of [its] shortcomings... which have to be addressed," Zuma's spokesperson Mac Maharaj said in a statement.

Zuma spoke to traditional leaders in Parliament on Thursday.

"Media reports on President Zuma's speech... [have] been sensationalised by some newspapers to the point of being grossly misleading," Maharaj said.

Earlier on Friday, The Times reported that Zuma, in his address, had told traditional leaders that Africans had their own way of solving their problems through traditional institutions.

"Let us solve African problems the African way, not the white man's way," it quoted Zuma as saying.

"Let us not be influenced by other cultures and try to think the lawyers are going to help us. We have never changed facts.

"They tell you they are going to change facts. They will never tell you that these cold facts have warm bodies."

The newspaper reported that Zuma's comments could be viewed as an endorsement of the traditional courts bill, which is currently under consideration in Parliament.

In his statement, Maharaj quoted extracts from the speech, in which Zuma acknowledged the bill "has been criticised for being flawed for a number of reasons".

Further, Zuma had said that all the concerns raised were being addressed as part of an on-going parliamentary process.

Maharaj said the bill clearly needed further work, and everybody had acknowledged that fact.

"It is unfortunate that the information was excluded from reports in order to convey a particular view and stereotype.

"In the interest of fairness, we believe that the affected media should carry the adequate and proper correction," he said.

The bill was first submitted in 2008. Its opponents say it empowers chiefs to act as judge, prosecutor, and mediator, with no legal representation and no appeals allowed.

The Times reported that if enacted, it will affect about 19 million rural people who live on tribal lands ruled by chiefs.

Comments
  • sihlangu.hokweni - 2012-11-02 21:14

    No! he said that the CONSTITUTION must be amended sothat JUDGEMENTS from those COURTS CANT BE APPEALED at HIGHER COURT LEVEL.

      lsfreak - 2012-11-02 21:37

      Misleading hey... Quick question. Did Mr. Zipper utter those words?? Yes we thought so. So what's the problem :D

      frank.vankaapstad - 2012-11-02 21:47

      I'm confused. You dress like a white man, you drive a white man's car made in Germany, you use a white man's technology for communication, work and entertainment, you cannot wait to go shopping in a white man's shop like Gucci or Prada, you eat a white man's food and drink a white man's wine, you use a white man's banks and stock exchanges. Every advanced thing in this entire country comes courtesy of the white man, yet you want to solve problems the African way? I'm sorry, you can claim to want to maintain your traditional values, but everything you do in modern day South Africa comes from white people. It is time that the way you do things reflects the times in which we live. You chose to live the white man's way so accept it and get with the program.

      sihlangu.hokweni - 2012-11-02 21:54

      The cANCer musnt tamper with the CONSTITUTION for their OWN ends.Every agrieved CITIZEN has a RIGHT to Aproach a HIGHER COURT if they aren't satisfied with a particular JUDGEMENT.So why should there be no legal challenge to JUDGEMENTS passed by UNDEMOCRATIC STRUCTURES?

      pierre.devilliers.9231 - 2012-11-03 06:02

      @frank - the "German" car is manufactured in the Eastern Cape by black people (and not in Germany; and that is largely true for German right-hand steer cars in the world), the economy you so depend on has its base in SA mines, mined by black people. The house you live in was build by black people. The road you take to work, the office building and most of the city infrastructure you depend on were built by black people. The Casino, Canal Walk, and the Waterfront in your lovely Cape Town … you guessed it. Yes I know the technology and experience come from a handful of experts, however don't fool yourself, not all Whites are experts; actually by far the most are not, and not all experts are white either. But the point is, the black person's contribution to this country was and is as valuable as anybody else's.

      morne.demeillon - 2012-11-03 07:31

      @Pierre, cleary you do not know much! cars build at VW SA is the polo's only, all other VW/Audi brands are imported. Where do the machines come from that are used to mine the resources, definatly not SA, only the operators are. Our imports exceeds our exports, and that says pretty much! SA is not competitive! Yes, we have plenty of black expertise in SA which contribute alot for SA, just a pity that we do not have this expertise in the government, where it is most needed!

      frank.vankaapstad - 2012-11-03 09:13

      @pierre - Thank you pointing out to me that the majority of the labour force in this country is indeed black, I was not aware of that. I think you missed my point. The majority of this country have embraced 99% of everything the white man brought to this country. Africans didn't invent anything that they use or aspire to use in their daily lives, and they certainly didn't invent any of the things I mentioned in my initial comment. Yes they build them now because they have been trained to do so. And it's not just products they embrace, it is financial services, medical services, even soccer; these are all white man's things. If Africans are embracing almost everything white and essentially living in a "white" society, why then is Zuma telling them to solve things the African way? Times have changed.

      pierre.devilliers.9231 - 2012-11-03 11:41

      ISO don’t nit-bit on specific models, if you buy a right-hand-steer German car anywhere in the world and definitely in South Africa, chances are good its manufactured in SA. Frank, that is exactly where you got it wrong. The South African "white" did not bring the technology we have today to this country. Technology was imported after the European set foot in this country from various parts of the world and not just Europe and USA, but for example from Japan and China too. So don't come with this nonsense that the "South African white" did everything. Your original statement is for one wrong and secondly in my opinion just plain racist. The point that both you missed was that all people contribute to SA and not your narrow minded view that the "whites" are carrying everybody else.

      frank.vankaapstad - 2012-11-03 12:18

      @pierre - Firstly, nothing about my comment is racist. If you go to Europe, America or the East, you don't see anything that came from or was invented in Africa. Nothing. That is fact, not racist. Look around you in South Africa and you see European style houses, clothes, services, mannerism, etc. Barring one or two small things, most of the people in our country, and certainly the wealthy Africans, live European style lives. You can get all nitty about South African white, European, USA or whatever, the point is modern day Africans live like Europeans and they totally embrace it. If everything in your society is based on a European way, including the constitution, then you accept that and do not regress to a tribal society in matters as important as the law.

      keithpatkell - 2013-01-25 14:32

      Pierre...are you, by any chance, analy retentive? No-one is arguing whether the "black" man or the "white" man or for that matter the "Asian" man's contribution is any MORE or LESS than anyone else's here in OUR country South Africa! The point Frank is making (which point everyone else appears able to grasp) is why is the "western" culture so easily adopted by "Africans" (read: "black"- even though as a "white" I am an "African", born and bred)when it suites them (read: the zoomer and his cronies) yet so vehemently criticized and rejected....also when it "suits" them! Capito va bene?

  • ????? - 2012-11-02 21:17

    mac.... what you have not denied in Zuma's speech says everything..... it seems that as a truth conductor you say it best when you say nothing at all... thus mac, I will continue to ignore your spoken word, and listen to the gaps in between.... that is where the truth begins and the lies end....

      george.outremer - 2012-11-02 21:42

      The obstreperous Maharaj forgets the salient point in this issue - which is that his president has publicly given voice to this bill. Media reports indicated previously that this bill has been re-tabled despite NO revisions since 2008. So why then would his president give attention to this bill now, if only for Maharaj to now state: "...the bill clearly needed further work, and everybody had acknowledged that fact"? Admit that the horse has bolted from the stable rather than using tactics of obfuscation.

  • BulletProof. - 2012-11-02 21:19

    Yes the coments back fire as usual now they try to put the fire off.I think the president should get a fire brigade car with blue lights to be able to put all this fires off.

      maureen.churchill.9 - 2012-11-05 10:16

      We are back to normal DENY, DENY, DENY, God help us if Zuma serves another term. Teachers marching supporting Zuma, yet our maths and science have been rated 62nd out of 62 places. Shame students my heart goes out to you, you are on a very slippery slope, and its not your fault.

  • Ollie - 2012-11-02 21:20

    Whether or not he supports the bill doesn't change the fact that he insinuated that there is in fact a distinction between being white and African. Just imagine David Cameron saying we shouldn't follow the examples of blacks instead solve our European debt crisis the European way.

  • asdhasgd - 2012-11-02 21:25

    Bro, if you say "Let us solve African problems the African way, not the white man's way," then i'm going to call you a racist and bigot. It's fine if you say "Lets solve our problems the african way, not the way of the west or our cousins to the north" then thats fine... BUT DONT YOU DARE DRAG US INTO YOUR FIGHT >:( WE'RE HOT AND BOTHERED WITH YOU MESSING UP THE COUNTRY ALREADY !!

      superfastglue.stickittodaman - 2012-11-02 21:33

      @opinionmaker / fully agree with you

      blip.noodlum - 2012-11-02 22:57

      Imagine if Helen Zille were to say "We must solve the Western Cape's problems the Western way, not the black man's way" what a huge hoohah that would kick up !

  • sminx.r.mandla - 2012-11-02 21:25

    This fool always contradicts himself, one minute he says this and the next thing its that! Sounds of a desperate man looking to buy favour for a second terms that he hardly realises when he talks BS, the cracks are widening!!

  • njdejager - 2012-11-02 21:34

    Ok. We are sooo tired that the Pres. Always says one thing but means something else. Can he not just say what he means. This is so boring and tiresome. Makes him look stupid every single time after a speech he read. And Mac just denies. He looks even more stupid. WASTE OF TIME.

  • arthur.hugh - 2012-11-02 21:34

    A bunch of uneducated traditional leaders holding their own court - above the law? Really clever Zipper, I'm so sure that will work like a charm. As for your white comments, don't worry, I don't think you're a racist moron. Not at all.

  • amelda.davies - 2012-11-02 21:39

    You make me sick! You and all your butt buddies! Sick!

  • toni.watson.169 - 2012-11-02 21:39

    If u r against white man's way,leave white mans technology,leave white mans inventions,loose white mans language,what will be left that is black man's?

  • ernest.lwandle - 2012-11-02 21:44

    how long is this mac going to be zippers ar***s wiper

  • neil.lovegrove - 2012-11-02 21:46

    none so dangerous as an uneducated peasant risen to power

  • andile.nokhetshe - 2012-11-02 21:50

    I was going to suggest that this Zuma guy start making use of the spokeperson more often but boy who do we have...!

  • ryan.a.smith.3958 - 2012-11-02 21:58

    what a moron

  • rofhiwa.ronald.1 - 2012-11-02 22:05

    Away with ascient kangaroo courts

  • frans.visserdsb - 2012-11-02 22:05

    mac, Denial is the longest river in africa...

  • Erna - 2012-11-02 22:06

    This is Mac doing damage control, as usual, and not very well.

  • rorisangv - 2012-11-02 22:18

    I don't wana assume something, but for your information, they are a lot of black inventors. Stop being ignorant and go through this link http://blackinventions101.com/inventionslist.html

      Stlouis Heidtmann - 2012-11-02 22:35

      @rorisangv google the names a bit bro you will see that only a couple first time invention most are just added on already invented stuff only real stride was the aircon the rest is not that important or just streamlined from other inventors ideas.

      rodney.bevan.58 - 2012-11-03 00:32

      Check that list again, then check out the reality, the list was put together by a black group to try and promote black people. It's almost all made up. now do yourself a favour and check youtube for Reverend Manning, a black American pastor and see what he has to say about his own people, you will be very surprised. The brilliant thing about pastor Manning, he can't be hit with the race card as he is a black man. He tells it like it really is. Go eat humble pie. In fact, here's the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AspYhwB8THU

      rodney.bevan.58 - 2012-11-03 00:34

      Or this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMwRM7LIVKo&feature=related

  • princemxolici - 2012-11-02 22:28

    Mac Maharaj is proving to be a TOOL.The man never disagrees with what the President says or does, he is always defending him. Wait,its his Job.A perfect example of why you shudnt settle for a job you hate jst bcos of a mere salary.

  • penny.stone.589 - 2012-11-02 22:30

    Poor old Mac Maharaj. Forever having to explain Zuma's utterances to the populace.

  • blip.noodlum - 2012-11-02 22:55

    If he said those things, he owns those words. No point denying or fudging it.

      Solly Matipwili - 2012-11-03 11:23

      Bring back the media tribunal. They will think before misquoting anyone.

  • Prince Bird - 2012-11-03 00:34

    Who cares when idiots speaks!

  • barry.pointeer - 2012-11-03 05:52

    back to the DARK ages.

  • marilyn.docherty.9 - 2012-11-03 06:46

    Zuma addresses the 'Gallery' He is 'two faced' and swings which ever way he thinks will be of BENIFIT TO HIM! The Costitution means very little to him!!!!!

  • andrew.mackie.90 - 2012-11-03 07:30

    Did Jacob Zuma use the words as stated in the report if affirmatve then there is no misunderstanding.

  • dehlia.fredericks - 2012-11-03 08:13

    zuma: i blieve i can fly nd take u with! plse vote 4 me!

  • heinrich.coetzee2 - 2012-11-03 08:38

    Maybe the Presidency should not use English to communicate anymore, they seem to be completely incompetent; sounds like they meant something different than what they said?!?

  • jafta.sehona1 - 2012-11-03 08:50

    IF THIS GUY GET A SECOND TERM I SEE MORE PROBLEMS IN SOUTH AFRICA,THERE WILL BE NO JUDGES AND PROSECUTORS ANYMORE,AND U CALL THAT DEMOCRACY,NO WAYS.

  • osama.pascal - 2012-11-03 09:01

    Mr President I suggest you get someone clever enough to write your speeches cause surely whoever you have does not have what it takes

  • gerrit.vanpletzen - 2012-11-03 10:16

    Mac, shut up, and let the fool explain his own gaffes. You are making a fool of yourself defending another fool.

  • gerrit.vanpletzen - 2012-11-03 10:24

    Wait a minute, he's actually the power behind the throne. He tells Zuma what to say, then when Z becomes befuddled and messes up the speech, he steps in to clarife. You can call Mac the puppetmaster. OMG, South Africa is actually being run by an Indian.

  • Christovb - 2012-11-03 12:29

    I will feel insulted if I were the media. How many times have the media been misled or misunderstood? The media cannot be wrong every time. Or is it HFW's fault?

  • bill.mckimm.9 - 2012-11-03 14:44

    JZ is a racist, pure and simple. Being racist is not restricted to whites, coloured and indians as the ANC would have us believe. This country is suffering because of ANC racist comments and behaviour. We need to be a non-racist society and the ANC needs to believe in this and act accordingly. The first thing they should do is dump racist and put someone in place who can lead this country, not watch it go down the drain as JZ has done.

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-11-04 12:03

    Maharaj don't have a mirror in his bathroom, he is too ashamed to look at his lying face.

  • suash - 2012-11-05 11:04

    Mac Maharaj is Zuma's bum boy. He needs to STFU.

  • keithpatkell - 2013-01-25 14:50

    Yeah...it's all very amusing and irritating and controversial and whatever else we wish to call it... the salient FACT is that the "president" of South Africa is not a sophisticated or erudite man and thus appears to enjoy a propensity for making ill conceived, oft injudicious statements, all the while believing he is being clever! How's this one for bizarre? I quote: "Let us not be influenced by other cultures and try to think the lawyers are going to help us. We have never changed facts. They tell you they are going to change facts. They will never tell you that these cold facts have warm bodies." What THE HELL is THAT supposed to convey….someone PLEASE translate this zoomerism for me? I am convinced that even that “master” of the English language, the urbane raconteur, MAC-the-mouth will fall foul of translating this statement!

  • anaska - 2013-01-26 11:26

    This man has been critized so many times and everytime he open that big mouth of his, more lies follows!!

  • Joe Black - 2013-07-09 14:27

    Yet he has been happily trying to use lawyers to get money from cartoonists and news papers. He will say anything to get support.

      Joe Black - 2013-07-09 14:27

      And money of course.

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