Millions for training detectives

2011-11-09 22:29

Johannesburg - A total of R16.2m has been set aside to train detectives in a drive for a higher conviction rates, Police Minister Nathi Mthethwa said on Wednesday.

He said 1384 detectives would be trained during the 2011/2012 financial year.

"The SA Police Service shall continue to ensure it trains more specialised detectives as well as the upskilling of investigators."

In a speech prepared for delivery in Parliament, the minister said the training of detectives would be an ongoing process.

Mthetha warned criminals that the police would be on high alert this festive season.

"If they think this is going to be a festive season, well how wrong they are, because I have instructed police to have no mercy on these scoundrels."

Mthethwa said there had been 16 834 recorded murders in the 2009/2010 financial year, in which 8 547 arrests were made, 3 060 of which resulted in convictions.

"We need to strive for more convictions around the murder cases, which will not only show how serious we are about dealing with this scourge, but equally cement society's trust in the police," he said.

  • Cracker - 2011-11-09 23:39

    Credibility is also important. Given the evidence for so many reasons not to trust police testimony in courts, it is suggested (once again and with urgency) that the human factor be removed as much as possible by making it compulsory that admissions and confessions not be allowed as evidence in the normal course of events - meaning circumstances may SOMETIMES demand otherwise -in court proceedings if not video taped. As for everyday run-of-the-mill police operations like patrol car activities the proceedings or actions must also be video taped. The law must be changed. It should be noted that the even some of the most credible witnesses are susceptible to wrong impressions of what they in all honesty believe they perceived.

      Dirk - 2011-11-10 06:34

      Good and well to provide money for training. The question is are the recruits trainable? The ones I know, makes me doubt this very strongly.

      roboman1 - 2011-11-10 08:33

      They need to pay David Klatzow, the forensic specialist to come in and train the detectives on how to secure a crime scene

  • Maxodin - 2011-11-10 00:12

    If my calculations are correct it means that detectives only R11 000 worth of training each. I have a better idea, re-allocate the money budgeted for the two long distance jets for the prez and deputy prez and provide more training for All police officers.

      Fred - 2011-11-10 04:38

      You beat me to it.

      Hunter - 2011-11-10 07:36

      For that amount of money they might be able to take down a statement properly once the training is completed...

      PB - 2011-11-10 08:01

      Spot on Maxodin! Our members of SAPS are a scarily undertrained, unqualified bunch at this stage. If the bar was set a bit higher for the police recruits, we might not have to waste so much money in first training them how to write - let alone the rest of it. Yes we need much more policemen and women, but we need competent human beings - of ALL races and languages - to fill those posts. It does not help slapping a uniform onto every dude who DEMANDS a job.

  • George - 2011-11-10 05:18

    17 years on and only now do they realise that training is needed. 20 years ago we had the best and now the new smart asses think they are better and you "cant tell them, they know" Well they know jack sh@t and thats why we are where we are Thank you anc what a fine force you have made

  • raymond.kok3 - 2011-11-10 05:23

    please in the process teach them manners because in their own mind they think that they are Sherlock holmes

  • Yar - 2011-11-10 05:35

    @Max & @Fred The amount is almost exactly 1/1000th of what thes ANC turkeys want to spend on 2 luxury jets with blue lights on top. I would have thought that fighting crime would have been much more important than the jets.

  • Andrew - 2011-11-10 06:37

    What good will training detectives be if the prisons are overcrowded and courts with backlogs as long as 6 months and more with continual postponements. The whole system needs to be ugraded.

  • Jack - 2011-11-10 07:17

    R16 million to train detectives, but R100 million for the ANC party? Priorities are clear!!!!!!

      jody.beggs - 2011-11-10 11:06

      Don't forget about the extra R400 million for the bloem upgrade so the can have the party, out of tax payers money !

  • Hugh - 2011-11-10 07:19

    Rather a low figure to train a specialist. What about using some of the Billion rand that would have been wasted on the Shabango building deal to up the training package to improve the what look like a real crappy conviction success rate. 3000 convictions out of 16000 murders.

  • Andrew - 2011-11-10 07:28

    R16 million to train police detectives, R1.6 billion for two jet aircraft, R100 million for an ANC party. Priorities are screwed up

      Henri - 2011-11-10 07:42

      you forgot 400m for renevations that seem to be cancelled. cancelled my front teeth.

  • Hunter - 2011-11-10 07:33

    No mercy: that is why they help two nigerians beat up a 19-year old in front of witnesses. Not sure if training without discipline is going to help much. Hope they screen those to be trained properly so we at least get the best ones trained.

  • Vincent - 2011-11-10 07:48

    Train them not to be corrupt as well please !!!!

  • swavka - 2011-11-10 08:00

    If they were trained properly in the first place they wouldn't have to throw good money after badly trained police in the first place. Besides once they become "detectives" it's called work.

  • peta.davidtsz - 2011-11-10 08:04

    if they actually retained the trained and skilled staff, instead of losing them due to AA... these stats would be much better. They spend thousands on training every year, but the excellent members find better paying jobs outside of the police, many overseas, leaving only the dreggs behind... the ones who cant find anything better, and dont give a damn.

      Hunter - 2011-11-10 08:35

      Some of the ones oversees tried to help old Gadaffi, remember. Maybe oversees is not always better.

  • Goodman - 2011-11-10 09:41

    Please let the Police chace criminals not dirstub our peace, they have the tendency of not chasing criminals and decide to interfere with our peace plsssssssssss, we want to enjoy our money that we work for it

  • lukas2 - 2011-11-10 12:51

    Money is going to be wasted. Instead they should revive the reservist programme; which will be more beneficial, by training new volunteers, than training existing members of the force.

  • George - 2011-11-16 14:17

    But ever more for a bladdy party as if they are not FAT enough

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