Minister Cwele urged to quit

2011-05-06 14:14

Johannesburg - Opposition parties on Friday called for the removal of State Security Minister Siyabonga Cwele after his wife, Sheryl, was sentenced to 12 years in jail for drug dealing.

The Inkatha Freedom Party was one of the parties that called on the minister to resign immediately.

"We congratulate the NPA on a job well done. This ruling does not only send out a clear message that our criminal justice system is sound and independent, but the ruling speaks to South Africa's commitment to root out all forms of crime, especially organised crime," said IFP spokesperson on crime, Velaphi Ndlovu in a statement.

"Furthermore, we call on Minister Cwele to resign his post as minister of state security as his integrity has been severely tainted by his wife's conviction. This is yet another embarrassing blow to the credibility of the South African government."

Minister accused of incompetence

The African Christian Democratic Party urged President Jacob Zuma to fire Cwele who it charged had failed in his duty to protect the country from drug trafficking.

"It is incomprehensible that the State Security Minister can have an alleged drug trafficker in his house without him being aware of it. How can such a person be aware of drug trafficking in his community and the country if he cannot detect one in his own house?

"The ACDP believes State Security Minister Siyabonga Cwele has failed the state by failing to uncover drug trafficking happening under his nose," said ACDP leader Kenneth Meshoe in a statement.

He said the fact that there were children as young as ten-years-old who were hooked on drugs highlighted the "crisis" the country faced.

The minister had failed the country and particularly its children and should therefore be removed from office. Cwele and her co-accused, Frank Nabolisa, were sentenced to 12 years for drug trafficking by the KwaZulu-Natal High Court on Friday.

First offenders

Delivering the sentence, Judge Piet Koen described their offence as very serious, saying that many lives were destroyed by drugs.

"Many families are affected by drugs which are brought here illegally. They suffer as a result of dealers who often initiate addiction by constant supply and thrive on that addiction."

The judge said he had considered the fact that the two were first offenders and that they had good prospects of being rehabilitated.

They have indicated that they would appeal the sentence.

  • Slayer - 2011-05-06 14:21

    It would be the right and honourable thing for him to step down and that is exactly why that wont happen.

      sheep - 2011-05-06 14:30

      Slayer tell something if your wife sent a text message, does that mean you must loose your job. come on boet , apply some common sense.

      Slayer - 2011-05-06 14:33

      If I was the security minister of the country yes dumbass I should lose my job. And she was convicted for drug trafficking not sending a sms. Dont go full retard on us please sheep

      SimonP - 2011-05-06 14:40

      @sheep, 1. Cwele did a bit more than send a text message, she organised drug running. 2. How can you have any confidence in the Minister for STATE SECURITY who didnt realise his wife was an international drug dealer?

      Aj - 2011-05-06 14:40

      Like a husband doesn't know all the coming and goe'ings of his wife... riiiight ? personal retirement fund there mr minister ?

      sheep - 2011-05-06 14:41

      @slayer - i dont know why does it have to go on position the person holds, you logic and that of opposition parties is very discriminating, let us move forward please, we cant afford to have apartheid back whereby we discriminate against the people because of the position they hold, the judge did not find the minister guilty for heave sake why must he be punished?

      Slayer - 2011-05-06 14:43

      @sheep you are trolling now. GTFO.

      mummford - 2011-05-06 14:48

      sheep...You have never held a high position before.With a very senior position comes a lot of responsibility.As State Security Minister you are going to have to take responsibility for your wife smuggling drugs into other country's right from under your nose.That just shows you how capable the ANC are in their jobs! I think the ANC should change their name to the DAH Party.Maybe you could join them.Get rid of these filth ruining our beautiful country.

      YourNightmare - 2011-05-06 14:49

      No i agree the minister and his family have shamed the nation.... this is a joke... the security minsters wife is an internationl drug pedlar.... we can't have this rubbish in government... Get out now Minister the people have spoke...

      Slayer - 2011-05-06 14:55

      @YourNightmare... WTF buddy? You ok? You are actually *gulp* making sense! ;)

      Perfume - 2011-05-06 15:00

      @sheep, Cwele's husband is the Minister of Security, that says a lot about his position, an honest person would of either stepped down or resigned, pending the outcome of the case, but no he continued working and earning a salary, my gut tells me that he was part of it and is now playing dumb, watch out now that Sheryl or the Nigerian has been sentenced one of them will start eating canary seeds and sing!!!!!

      D2D - 2011-05-06 15:01

      Yeah YOURNIGHTMARE! You are just freaking me out now!

      Wolraad Woltemade - 2011-05-06 15:07

      Sheep - If you are the Minister of foreign affairs and your wife is found to be a terrorist, will it be correct to say you as Minister are incompetent to be a Minister? Why don't you apply logic.... geeeezzzzzz - Are you for real or just irredeemably brainwashed!!!???

      HolyMan - 2011-05-06 15:16

      Thats why we call a sheep a sheep

      OuBoerseun - 2011-05-06 15:17

      @sheep. No where in the post was anything racist mentioned, you raise a weak argument and you are corrected by other readers of the forum. You do not like being corrected and have no proper argument and BANG!!!!!!! OUT COMES THE RACE CARD. This happens every time from people like you, it would be better if you just read the articles to try and improve your grammar and not post articles on forums, not that the folks who write the news articles have the ability of the journo's of old any more.

      WhiteAfrican - 2011-05-06 15:23

      @sheep You name fits well.

      WhiteAfrican - 2011-05-06 15:24

      @sheep You name fits well.

      Dave - 2011-05-06 15:40

      @ YourNightmare - you started drinking my mate?

      Notbuyinface - 2011-05-06 15:41

      Wives can do many things without you noticing. But a spy boss should at least be better vigilant. I agree he should just resign.

      Allin - 2011-05-06 15:50

      Honourable and politician are two mutually exclusive terms...

      Niknac - 2011-05-06 16:19

      @ sheep - you such a sheep

      goyougoodthing - 2011-05-06 16:55

      It must be so embarrassing being an honest black person trying to prove that this country can run when the rulers are making the stereotypes into reality over and over. Greed, corruption, crime, theft, incompetence and not taking ownership...

      Master debat - 2011-05-06 18:30

      Cwele, Mahlangu-Nkabinde, Chiceka, Cele- 4 proven corrupt 20 to go! We are almost there ladies and gents not lang now.= maybe we can ad jay zeem- he knows we all now he is rotten to the core.

      Matt - 2011-05-06 20:55

      yeah - these ANC guys are greedy snakes

      onetickie - 2011-05-07 10:40

      He shouldn't quit, HE SHOULD BE FIRED, IMMEDIATELY. This story is being sent around the world as are other stories of the shocking ANC shenanigans that are never ending and always to do with crime, corruption, greed SELF-ENRICHMENT - screw the poor!

      mexicanman - 2011-05-07 11:22

      @sheep. your comment is completely illogical.

      Simpiwe Cele - 2011-05-07 13:19

      Wikipedia definition : Minister of state security + wife committed of being a drug smuggler. Answer : OXYMORON How embarrassing for SA to have this calibre of people in our Govt !! what a joke ANC Trash !! I comment the NPA in this regard !! well done !!

      Winston - 2011-05-13 15:13

      Exactly! Bet he or his wife will not take any responsibility... No wonder our country is in the state that it is...

      Winston - 2011-05-13 15:15

      @ DUMBSHEEP. Do you seriously think he did not know what his wife was up to?? if you do, then you are more stupid then I thought...

  • ? - 2011-05-06 14:22

    How can he be dismissed,when this is one of the requirements to get a promotion in the ANC government? Silly article

      Logs01 - 2011-05-06 15:22

      Agreed. He might be in line for President now. JZ & Malenema must watch out!!

      WhiteAfrican - 2011-05-06 15:27

      You actually make a good point. This is afterall how they get ahead. Maybe he'll even take over from ol JZ

      Playnice - 2011-05-06 15:31

      she may even be offered the post of "minister of Trade and Industry"

      em_oh! - 2011-05-06 17:00

      Probably win her appeal and take over her husbands position.

  • Gabba - 2011-05-06 14:24

    I agree! how can that State Security Minister be married to someone who commits crimes that go against what he has been appointed to prevent! Totally shameful....

      paulf - 2011-05-06 14:27

      I guess he knew about it and is probably involved as well. Let the story unfold and be surprised of the outcome.

      sheep - 2011-05-06 14:31

      lets wait for the appeal before we jump to conclusions, please also take into acoount that some of the judges are not yet transformed still suffering from pre 94.

      Barry - 2011-05-06 14:36

      He was probably also involved and in this case not drinking gravy but eating whole big chunks of succulent lamb and swallowing it whole. I agree with the entire opposition that Mr. Jacob Zume should fire Him live on National tv during prime time.

      SimonP - 2011-05-06 14:41

      @sheep, thats right blame aparthied.

      Perfume - 2011-05-06 14:44

      @Paul, that is what schemed as well, and now he is playing dumb!!!!

      Electronic Cemetery - 2011-05-06 15:18

      @Sheep what on earth are you talking about? Guilty is guilty!!! Pre or post 94 what this woman did was and is wrong. There is no need to even bring up apartheid or any such nonsense! The convicted will appeal the sentence not the crime! Read correctly! She is and was guilty now stop bringing up irrelevant matters about "transformation" you sound like a um... SHEEP! If people like you started thinking for themselves outside the box we could make a change in this country. The minister should stand down as this brings his own judgment and ability to do his job correctly into serious question. It's an embarrassment before the rest of the world that our Government has so many people in positions of authority they are clearly not capable of maintaining!

      clark - 2011-05-06 15:41

      - Now Anc supporters are at odds with one another - nightmare and old sheepy. Much like their party leaders who contradict each other. Guess this is what happens if you're living with lying.

      amos - 2011-05-09 10:54

      The minister is i believe separated from Sheryl and she got her job at Hibiscus Municipality although she is not qualified for it. Was it a job for pals because of her link with the Security Minister ?

  • Darter - 2011-05-06 14:24

    There a plenty of husbands and wives who don't know every single thing their partner gets up to. Whether it's affairs, drug abuse, etc etc. Political parties can just sound desperate at times....its actually quite sad.

      sheep - 2011-05-06 14:32

      Amandla, we need more people like you. i trust you know what to do on the 18th.

      SimonP - 2011-05-06 14:42

      Darter, you honestly think the minister of stae security who couldnt spot his wife drug dealing is competent?

      Craig - 2011-05-06 14:43

      DUDE when you the SECURITY minister of a country you make sure you KNOW what your partner gets up to......

      briansmith702 - 2011-05-06 15:19

      That is fine but not when you are the Minister in Charge of Intelligence you fool!!! Pure incompetance!!

      Felix - 2011-05-06 15:31

      @Sheep, sadly there are way too many people in this country like you and darter...

  • paulf - 2011-05-06 14:25

    Democracy at Last!!!!

      Notbuyinface - 2011-05-06 15:44

      Brought to you by the ANC

  • Darter - 2011-05-06 14:25

    There are plenty of husbands and wives who don't know every single thing their partner gets up to. Whether it's affairs, drug abuse, etc etc. Political parties can just sound desperate at times....its actually quite sad.

      as i see it - 2011-05-06 14:33

      you are spewing crap. Catch a wake up dude.

  • sheep - 2011-05-06 14:26

    that is why i will never vote for anything outside the Mighty ANC, so what they are actually saying is that, the Minister has connection with her, he must quit, according to this mickey mouse oppositions anyone with connection to her must loose their job, their family must loose their job, the neighbours must loose their job as matter of fact it will end up being all the people in the country loosing their jobs. n we have some idiots who voted for this idiots to even qualify to be in parlament. their logic is pathetic i cannot believe the husband has to loose his job because the wife sent an sms.

      Slayer - 2011-05-06 14:31

      Ok numb nuts... Try to follow... He is the security minister of SA. She has been convicted on international drug dealing. He apparently doesnt know. Not very competent for a security minister. Do you get it now or should we whip out the crayons? - 2011-05-06 14:32

      Well sheep (a very apt name considering you seem to be a blind follower) her husband has been given the job of preventing the very crimes his wife has committed. Furthermore it wasn't even his department that made the bust. So even if it was not his wife, the evidence shows that he was not even doing his job. In any other business that means you get fired.

      daaivark - 2011-05-06 14:36

      BAAAA. Jeez. Use that thing on top of your shoulders. And I don't mean your hat.

      k1200s - 2011-05-06 14:37

      @sheep. she was not convicted for just sending a sms.catch a wake up my friend. she was convicted on evidence proving beyond a reasonable doubt that she was involved in trafficking.common sense tells you her hubby must have known or suspected something is going on.

      Barry - 2011-05-06 14:37

      Gaan weg Gaaaaaan weg man Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan weg Bliksem

      mummford - 2011-05-06 14:39

      @sheep...exactly.I mean these other parties were calling for Zuma to be fired just because he has impregnated half of the Zulus nations young women,had a corruption charge laid against him, had a rape charge laid against him, says that he does not use protection because he just has a shower and it all goes away! Dont these idiots get it that it should be the women and the people that laid the charges that should suffer.I mean if you are married to someone by law and you are the head of STATE SECURITY and your WIFE is smuggling drugs from under your nose why should you lose your job.I mean you can trust this guy!Stupid other parties.

      VuyosWors - 2011-05-06 14:39

      Does it hurt when you try to think? Go lay down in your shack, take a disprin and rest your brain cell.

      Herman - 2011-05-06 14:41

      hey skaap...jy's alweer 'n regte karton boks met 'n halwe baksteen vir 'n brein...

      sheep - 2011-05-06 14:44

      i fail to see the connection as to why the minister has to loose his job for a job he wasnt part of. or maybe i am missing something here, did the untranformed judge find the minister guilty answer no, so why are victimising wrong people. by the way the minister wife has appealed so lets wait n see , hopefully something true will come out this time. Long Live ANC Long Live. Amandla

      Biker - 2011-05-06 14:47

      the anc sucks, can the real ANC stand up, ANC led by a bunch of criminals...incompetant and uneducated bunch of idiots...

      nkulu.bgumede - 2011-05-06 14:48

      he is the minister of state security, not sports and recreation.

      Chelle001 - 2011-05-06 14:55

      @Sheep - you have your head as deep in the sand as the rest of your "mighty anc" buddies. Slayer I think we may need more than crayons with this lost sheep!!!

      mummford - 2011-05-06 14:56

      @sheep...i agree with you - Long live crime, corruption,rape ,murder, no service delivery, ruling party's drug smuggling wives-LONG LIVE THE ANC...VIVA ANC.

      ET - 2011-05-06 14:57

      isn't that whats happening right now, everyone is loosing their jobs!

      OB1 - 2011-05-06 15:02

      "maybe i am missing something here, " ---> a brain?

      k1200s - 2011-05-06 15:10

      @sheep. its soooooooo clear you have no but no understanding of whats going live in this little world of yours in your head where you only see what you want to see,. firstly,what the f..... has a referance to a untransformed judge got to do with it,or are you playing the race card again.let me tell you something,a transormed judge would have given her 20 years. secondly,its not a question on if the husband was convicted,what is important here is that the husband due to his position in parlaiment and the trust he portrays,has to resign if he wants to show to the world out there that goverment will not tolerate corruption and crime,directly or indirectly.does this make sense,or must i spell it out to you.just for the record im not a whitey if you thought so :)

      Graeme - 2011-05-06 15:20

      Sheep, you have to be somebody fart arsing around here, surely you're not *that* naive as to be this serious. I think you're just trying to get a response and stir the pot. If a policeman's wife is running a brothel at the back of the house he can't simply say he wasn't aware of anything suspicious.

      Valis - 2011-05-06 15:20

      It's "losing" people, not "loosing". Good grief.

      Doublepost - 2011-05-06 15:24

      Whip out those crayons Slayer, he still doesn't get it!

      Felix - 2011-05-06 15:34

      Obvious sheep troll is obvious.

      Toolman69 - 2011-05-06 15:38

      What a chop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Gedoente - 2011-05-06 15:40

      @ sheep. What is the integral of ln x^2 over a 1 to 10 time period?

      Baas-Julius - 2011-05-06 15:40

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      PMG - 2011-05-06 15:41

      Sheep - you are a complete D@OS - Yes they must lose(note one o)there job.That is what public servants do ,you moron.

      Love - 2011-05-06 16:04

      @ Sheep - it's people like you that slows down the transformation of this country - cant believe you actually trying to justify the fact that our Minister's wife got convicted of drug trafficking , and that he should stay in office regardless of this fact?? And then blamimg apartheid and all kinds of irrelevant issues , stop living in the past boet !!! Stop being like a sheep and stop behaving like a puppet !!

      Caissy223 - 2011-05-06 19:40

      So you don't want to see improvement I assume sheep? You are just blindly happy with things being "ok-ish to borderlining criminals" running the country. People don't get more skilled or fit for a job where you come from? Jeez, how can you be happy with this situation? If he was divorced it would have been a little different - but now he just portrays someone who is plain dumb. - and so do you.

      Ralph Long - 2011-05-06 23:28

      It is LOSE not LOOSE, good grief, someone who can't spell or use a word correctly, doesn't have the right to comment in my opinion. You are just what your name says....... a sheep.

      Winston - 2011-05-13 15:19

      Yes, sheep, you are missing something... YOUR BRAIN!!!!!!!!!

  • BigMoose - 2011-05-06 14:27

    I always said state security was a coke-up.

      Barry - 2011-05-06 14:38

      Good one

      Master debat - 2011-05-06 18:47

      Ha !

  • Jean - 2011-05-06 14:27

    PS.. to the ACDP .. they are no longer "alleged". They have been found guilty. So they are drug traficers. What an embarrasment. But this has become the norm in the corrupt ANC. Nothing will happen to him and the ususal supporters will even defend him as far as thay can.

  • Showahed - 2011-05-06 14:28

    Sorry to say, but it is a known fact that most of the ANC high profilers in the current government has got one or other suspect case/s hanging over their heads - either ignored or just swept under the carpet - yet it is acceptable for them to serve in a body supposedly controlling our country. So how on earth will Cwele be forced to quit? It is after all his wife who is the culprit. And by the way, 12 years for this crook is a measly sentence compared to what Tessa Beetge had to endure so far. As indicated, she will appeal, and finally come off scott free. Watch this space.

  • No1Dutchman - 2011-05-06 14:31

    Internationally this is a test for South Africa.

      No1Dutchman - 2011-05-06 14:34

      Mr Zuma the world is waiting for your answer and don't forget our ex Minister of Police and head of Interpol, Jackie Selebi.

      VuyosWors - 2011-05-06 14:37

      South Africa will fail any test of integrity. Our so-called leaders do not have the genetic make-up to possess integrity or logic.

      johncarlos.biza - 2011-05-06 14:37

      The first test was passed i.e the independence of our justice system.

      VuyosWors - 2011-05-06 14:53

      @johncarlos.biza the same justice system that let Zuma off the hook?

      johncarlos.biza - 2011-05-06 15:05

      Yes, and the same one that got a police boss a 15 year sentence

      the_truth - 2011-05-06 15:21

      SA has failed the test since 1994..

  • Gundaan - 2011-05-06 14:32

    He,s bonking his drug trafficker wife every night no doubt , & he is not aware of what she,s up to ..hah hah,s a bloody disgrace ...

      Sedick - 2011-05-06 14:42

      She probably told him that the white stuff she was snorting to pep their sex life was icing sugar.......dufus that he is. But he will not resign, Zuma will not fire him, so he will continue on his merry way.....ANC forever, VIVA...

      Barry - 2011-05-06 14:57

      Because of this incident the ENTIRE ruling party MUST abdicate in favour of the DA

      Barry - 2011-05-06 14:59

      The bonking bit I thought of it earlier. S@#$t I am slow today

      Master debat - 2011-05-06 18:56

      The problem is that he was not, clearly the Nigerian dude was, why else would she be hanging out with him otherwise ? Ha ha this dude is clue less about the world less state security.

  • - 2011-05-06 14:33

    Maybe he can get a job as a mule driver or a donkey or an ass and if he's lucky a horse.

  • Mad man - 2011-05-06 14:34

    I request the minister not to accept the wishes of the enter racist white community which sees no difference between him and what his wife did - as they are just narrow minded as during apartheid.

      lekker.b4k - 2011-05-06 14:40

      You are measured by the company you keep! Ask Selebe. But of course not when the relationship is to your advantage and you can benefit. She made her money by baking cookies in the kitchen all day. Yeah right

      Perfume - 2011-05-06 14:48

      The last time I checked the leaders of the IFP and ACDP are both black!!!!!!

      Biker - 2011-05-06 14:49

      dude, i'm black, and this dude needs to be removed as its an embarassment to the entire SA.

      Slayer - 2011-05-06 15:04

      Another one going full retard... Attack of the trolls...

      willieman - 2011-05-06 15:15

      Mad man get it in your head HE IS THE MINISTER OF STATE SECURITY HE APPOINTED TO FIGHT SUCH you got it repeat it a million times don't be like a sea horse and forget after every second.Cherie on top i'm black

      the_truth - 2011-05-06 15:23

      @biker - please teach mad_man some wisdom

      Felix - 2011-05-06 15:39

      @Slayer it's been one of those days... Just as Thsepo starts making sense we get another 5 white bashers.

      Slayer - 2011-05-06 15:47

      @Felix yea I think Tshepo making sense is one of the signs of the endtimes mate...

  • johncarlos.biza - 2011-05-06 14:34

    Quite the opposite will happen. His wife will get a cozy government job after serving a 2-year sentence. She's now in demand in parliament after joining the criminal list

      the_truth - 2011-05-06 15:24

      she will not even smell two years, will do a shabir.......

  • paulf - 2011-05-06 14:35

    The Higher You Fly, The Harder You Fall!!!

      Rocky_III - 2011-05-06 14:59

      No no no. You got it wrong. This is the ANC. The higher you fly the better position you get.

  • FaxM8 Fax - 2011-05-06 14:37

    Fire this accomplice to drug dealing

  • Anton - 2011-05-06 14:39

    Cwele is a Zulu, Zuma is a Zulu - nothing will happen, although if it was me I would resign out of sheer embarasment...

      Valis - 2011-05-06 15:24

      I think this lot are missing their embarrassment gland.

      Khaya - 2011-05-06 17:31

      This has nothing to do with Tribalism, running a country is not owning a Shebeen where customers are always wrong. Dr Cwele is a minister of state security and the wife is an International Drug Trafficking Artist, surely he must bow-out and clear his name and the country on a public domain.

  • Marcell - 2011-05-06 14:40

    She can now become a minister.

  • oddearring - 2011-05-06 14:40

    Methinks Sheep is a troll.

  • penada - 2011-05-06 14:42

    what a load of him for what exactly...for not knowing that his wife is a drug pusher...that is a crime?...while we are at it lets fire all the ministers whose children have met the wrong stick of the law. these couple was not staying together, even if they were, how can any of this be his fault...politcal parties have stooped too low now...this is a personal family matter, and it is a civil matter, like stupid terre blanche's death had nothing to do with the kill the boer song, like the white guy whose crazy son went and stalked and killed his girlfriend. perspective people, please...

      Cupra - 2011-05-06 15:11

      Are you that blind? The MINISTER OF STATE SECURITY's own wife is involved in INTERNATIONAL drug trafficking!!! Under his own nose!! Whether he was involved or not, whether he knew about it or not, this is all irrelevant. It is an embarrassment to the country!! Once again showing the lack of ANY competence by the "comrades" running this nation!!! Do you not understand this?????

      penada - 2011-05-06 15:23

      cupra the minister of security is not a law unto is one thing to turn a blind eye...if he did, then he deserves out...but his position renders him nothing more than a public official ok, he cant have was he to know...because he is the minister of sercurity he must have tapped her phone, have her followed...what, he must use state resources for his own ends...are u people actually sane...i would charge him with corruption if he had intercepted the calls on his own...

      the_truth - 2011-05-06 15:25

      go play on the railway line you ape.

      Kooven - 2011-05-06 15:29

      It's not a crime, but shows his lack of ability to do his job! If he can't spot criminal activity under his nose, what makes you think he'll be able to spot it anywhere else? The minister is guilty of not doing his job..Come on Penada, use those 2 brain cells God has given you, or are they too busy trying to keep you warm? lol!

      penada - 2011-05-06 15:31

      how intlligent of you the_truth, and mai add, also very mature... insults will not deter me from my thinking, and i dont care its not the popular are not the 1st to call me ape anyway, so did your parents and grandparents

      penada - 2011-05-06 15:38

      ok kooven you are too intelligent for me, pardon me as i try to keep up...only 2 brain cells remember... please enlighten me...hypothetically speaking...if were in his are married to this criminal...but you have since moved out the are no longer "together"...sure you arer civil to one another...there's kids and so on...but her life is hers, and so is yours...please show me how you would have come to know what your wife was upto

      Kooven - 2011-05-06 15:53

      If they weren't staying together fair enough, then I don't think the Minister should be held accountable, but if we was then surely you can see the logic in him having to resign? But refer to numerous reports, they were still apology if they were indeed separated.

      penada - 2011-05-06 16:08

      they are still married kooven but they are also seperated...but please...assuming they were not seperates how could he have known...i mean that is like saying one knows their partner so totally that they can nevr be cheated upon, or if they were cheated they would know 100% of the time

      Chewbacca - 2011-05-06 16:28

      @penada - The fact that she is STILL his wife AND a PUBLIC FIGURE is why he should be fired as he is bringing the SA government into disrepute (like it's not there already). Maybe he should be let off the hook as he may be a PUBLIC NIGURE and not a PUBLIC FIGURE?

  • Perfume - 2011-05-06 14:43

    The day the story hit the news, he should of resigned, that would of been the right and honourable thing to do, or has the train not stopped at any station for him to jump off!!!!

      Martin du Plessis - 2011-05-07 12:41

      I think you're abusing those 2 pooor words horribly. Using "right" and "honorable" in reference to an ANC member is a violation of the Geneva lexicon convention, if memory serves.

  • vusi22 - 2011-05-06 14:43

    This is cheap politics fro IFP/ACDP. They want to be on the political centre stage. They belong to the political dustbin

      maseratifitt - 2011-05-06 17:04

      Politics is already a dustbin. First in, was the ANC, rotting by now.

  • - 2011-05-06 14:44

    Can the firing please start with that sorry excuse for a president who appointed him?

      djg - 2011-05-06 15:17

      please dont insult the word "excuse"

  • nkulu.bgumede - 2011-05-06 14:46

    i agree he needs to step down. how on earth could someone from outside your house uncover such information when you go to bed with the same person every night? if he really care for the security of this country and did his job, he would have reported his wife. the NPA should investigate him as well.

      the_truth - 2011-05-06 15:26

      perhaps she screwed the drug-mules, not her sheep husband

  • Rocky_III - 2011-05-06 14:55

    Anybody else out there that is starting to feel that the entire country is actually run by the Mafia or is merely a huge crime syndicate and nothing more? I don't know if the ploiticians are just so stupid they do not realise or so clever that they are running it. I tend to think the latter.

  • impilojen - 2011-05-06 14:56

    In most civilised countries, if any person of such standing was involved or had close family involved in such a shocking crime, they would naturally "stand down". He should resign (gracefully) and disappear. But we all know he probably won't, ever. Many won't respect this person again, and it'd be good if he could realise that.

      penada - 2011-05-06 15:06

      ok, i haven't come across something like this before...i know in any democracy a person found of guilty of any illegal/corrupt activity they would resign..but do u know any example where a seperated husband of a criminal had to step down because of their enstranged wife....please provide us with examples of such people/countries

      Valis - 2011-05-06 15:27

      @penada: The Valerie Plume affair. That's just off the top of my head. If I had to actually go look I can give you millions.

      penada - 2011-05-06 15:56

      valis... these are seperate situations tiger 1) wilson and valerie were still fully married and not seperated 2) wilson was not fired because the wife was a CIA operative, he was fired because of his "niger findings" which did not agree with the governments view that irag was buying yellow cake (uranium) from niger 3) infact the whole story about the wife being CIA was leaked within a week after niger refused to change his views now please go find the ral precedence you so speak of

  • moiraine - 2011-05-06 14:57

    I was under the impression that they had been seperated for years, if that is the case then surely it has nothing to do with him. However, if they are not seperated then yes he should be fired since he cant be very competent.

  • quinna - 2011-05-06 14:58

    its apartheid's fault

      cara - 2011-05-06 15:07

      OH PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Till what new century??????

      djg - 2011-05-06 15:17

      why dont u blame it on ET - idiot

      Felix - 2011-05-06 15:42


      E.Nuff - 2011-05-06 16:26

      Haha! Very funny! Love the sarcasm!

  • nic69ers - 2011-05-06 15:10

    Of course he didnt know! He didnt get the job cos he knew what to do, he got the job for other obvious reasons!! Hahaha!!

      W H Kotze - 2011-05-06 20:17

      The obvious reason? Would that be consorting with criminals?

  • Matt - 2011-05-06 15:12

    If you're in the ANC, you can commit mass murder adn still stay in your job. What a disgusting government.

      Khaya - 2011-05-06 17:22

      During apartheid era it was a criminal offence to be a member of the ANC, now its Democracy era, being an ANC member means Tenderpreneurism irrespective of ability or competitiveness. Vote! Angaz Nam Catz!

  • shozi - 2011-05-06 15:13

    yo partner can cheat on u and never find out if u're lucky u'll be told by other people so the Minister travels a lot it was not possible for him to find out about what his wife was doing....

      the_truth - 2011-05-06 15:28

      Hi mate, he was the minister of dumtelligence, of course he should have known, how do you think his bank balance was growing by the day!!!

  • Sizwe - 2011-05-06 15:14

    Here is the flaw in the opposition's argument; they have been estranged for years and they live in separate households. Unless they are suggesting that he should have stalked his wife, then he had no reason to know or should have cared to know what she does as an estranged partner. Thus I say she is an adult who willingly and freely associated with others and should face whats coming, as for the Minister he has nothing to be ashamed of as he had nothing to do with this saga, this can simply be assumed as no party (including the prosecution) has neither alluded to nor alleged such. Naturally a person should not be punished for things that they could not be reasonably expected to know especially if they had no interest in that specific matter.

      willieman - 2011-05-06 15:33

      Sizwe get it in your head HE IS THE MINISTER OF STATE SECURITY HE IS APPOINTED TO FIGHT SUCH CRIMES.Now you got it repeat it a million times don't be like a sea horse and forget after every second.The world is having a problem with drugs(cocain,tick,dagga,nnyaope etc)this drugs pass through customes and you are telling us stalking,estranged,association all this do not count what counts is "HE IS THE MINISTER OF STATE SECURITY IF HE FAILS TO TRACK DRUG TRAFFICING THEN HE MUST GO

      Achmed - 2011-05-06 15:35

      Siswe. The timing needs to be considered. Is it not true that they became "estranged" at the time that the whole drug mess came to the fore. That begs the question when did she start with the drug traficking and not when she was eventually caught. I suppose we will never know whether the drugs triggered the split or the actual exposure thereof or none of the aforesaid.

      Khaya - 2011-05-06 16:54

      According to Mrs Cwele's defence mitigation 'she has children that need to be looked after and their father is always away on business trips' there's nowhere their separation is quoted and furthermore the Minister is seen in court to support her on a bail application proceeding and he has never come out clear on a public domain distancing himself from this Drug Artist.

      spacemonkey - 2011-05-06 17:10

      @Willieman As the Minister of State Security, his job is to OVERSEE our intelligence agencies. He is not personally responsible for gathering intelligence. Do you fire the CEO of a construction company because he's not able to do, say, an engineer's job? No, provided that he's hired competent engineers. You can't infer anything about the minister's competence from the fact that his wife was found guilty of a crime. His personal ability to investigate crimes of this nature has no bearing on his ability to do the job he was appointed for. And, given that he's estranged from his wife, Sizwe's absolutely correct -- 'investigating' her personally would amount to an illegal invasion of her privacy. Using state resources to investigate or keep her under surveillance, unless it was done in his official capacity and with just cause, would amount to the abuse of those resources (to illegally invade her privacy).

      spacemonkey - 2011-05-06 17:17

      @Achmed I agree partly. It certainly raises suspicion that the minister had a close relationship with someone who has now been convicted of a crime. If, however, he was investigated and there was no evidence that he was aware of or, even worse, involved in the crime, I don't see any reason for his resignation or dismissal. I'd like to see evidence of such an investigation -- I think it's in the public interest. I don't, however, want to see a precedent set for ministers being fired or resigning over vague suspicion of a crime. It just makes it all too easy to get rid of political opponents by spreading rumours and making false, albeit remotely plausible, allegations.

      spacemonkey - 2011-05-06 17:20

      @Achmed And, I'll add: I'm tempted to say that there a few politicians I'd like to see removed from the public stage by whatever means possible, but I'm careful what I wish for. I'd hate to see those same politicians use dirty tactics to get rid of those I support.

      spacemonkey - 2011-05-06 17:39

      @Khaya I'm not so sure about your first point (about the defense mitigation) -- is it relevant whether they're separated or even still married if he's the only one suitable for custody? Your other two points seem relevant to me. I'd like to see some evidence that he's been properly investigated and that there's no further reasonable cause for suspicion of his involvement (active or otherwise) in her crime. And, by 'evidence', I don't just mean him protesting his innocence.

  • Wolraad Woltemade - 2011-05-06 15:15

    I am impressed Yournightmare - I have followed all you okes; it seems quite stupid the comments from both sides of the coin - But seriously, Are you blaming apartheid for his wife's actions? You have to be kidding me!? If a person is a counsellor for rape victims and the spouse is found to be guilty of paedophilia will you employ that counsellor on your child? Really sheep - You are acting like a sheep based on these comments!

  • mufasa - 2011-05-06 15:16

    While we are at it why dont Zuma, JuJu, and the whole ANC just F' off and leave the politics to the DA... at least they dont steel and deal drugs....

  • keng - 2011-05-06 15:19

    Two days ago I had a very unpleasant experience with dealing with the "new and improved" SAP. "People" broke into my shop and ran away when the alarm activated. They only stole our Standard Bank credit card machine; probably thought it was a very large cell phone. Hope they sell it to one of their friends. I wasn't too concerned but thought I should report the crime to the "Police". There were 3 "officers" on duty. 1 whitey 1 so called coloured and another. Unfortunately I drew the "another". This bastard made my life hell, was rude beyond words, was arrogant, and ignorant. I simply told him that ADT had phoned when the break in occurred. It took him 1 yes 1 hour to write up the report. At no time was I offensive to him, I gave him my ID number and he still insisted on my date of birth. Having given him my DOB (1st 6 digits of ID) he then asked my age. When I pointed out that he had my ID and DOB he became really upset. The coloured cop probably handled 15 cases whilst I stood waiting for this bastard to write his report. I didn't have a "break in" on the report, I had a "braking" but decided not to point out various errors. Next time I will let other people go before me if "another" is available and take my chances with the C's or W's of this world. It's a pity how one "Little shit" changes our perspective of a whole ethnic group

  • michael.e.bowery - 2011-05-06 15:19

    Which of them gets high blood pressure first, then hospital, then parole and learns golf?

  • Orosman - 2011-05-06 15:21

    Why must the husband be a victim because of his wife's doing???If it can be proved that he knew then he must be out. however if not why should he lose his job.What about men that have sexual had boys without the wife's knowledge. Must she be punished. Get a life opposition party. Everyone has the right to a free trial and be dealt fairly in a democracy.

      Doublepost - 2011-05-06 15:35

      Listen orange tubby, this is the security minister of South Africa we're talking about here, not some normal citizen. This also entails DRUGS! If he is not aware of what his own wife is smuggling into and out of this country. How can we trust him when it comes to security in the rest of the country?! Can you follow that simple line of thought? Or is that too hard?

  • Wolraad Woltemade - 2011-05-06 15:21

    And P.S. @ Sheep - Why do you think it's always about punishment - He is not being punished if removed, we are being punished should he remain - The country is not there to provide him with position, his position is there to SERVE the country... Something he cannot do in this regard, clearly! Read the Bible, one should not even be allowed in a position of Eldership in a church if one's house is a mess!!! This is common sense - I believe in individualism but within reasonable limits and not at the expense of others - Humanism now applies to the one in charge, are you ridiculous, Isn’t it supposed to go for the protection of the children who fall victims of drugs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????

  • fieddels - 2011-05-06 15:21

    BBC News Top Stories: Sheryl Cwele, the wife of South Africa's intelligence minister, has been sentenced to 12 years in jail for drug trafficking. Banana Republic or not

      em_oh! - 2011-05-06 18:03

      Yeah 12 years!!!!!!!!! Totally sick....she should have been given 112 years. Pity she only got caught here and not in a country where she probably would have got death penalty or at least life. But,just wait....she will win her appeal and be walking the streets again soon.

  • mabsie - 2011-05-06 15:22

    Yes. He is in charge of a very important security portfolio. His wifes antics definitely impact heavily on him continuing in this post. I cannot believe he had no idea of her involvement in the drug world.

  • Nawe - 2011-05-06 15:23

    @ Mafusa Sure the D.A don't 'Steel''.... Bloody agent! go back to Bloem son of a wors

  • Psalm - 2011-05-06 15:23

    What a splendid country SA is turning into - 1. our then police chief was friends "finish and klaar" with a known mobster, all this while casually acting as SA's face at Interpol; 2. our current Security Minister lived, ate and slept with an international drug dealer he called "wife". If he is this blind to criminal activities going on in his house...that explains our crime level (somewhat); 3. our president sings about machine guns, his HIV prevention strategy is a shower after unprotected sex, he collects wives as a hobby and has promoted himself to the position of "doorway to heaven" *cough "hell" cough*; 4. we are examplary in applying the "rule of law": if you're an ANC hotshot serving a jail sentence, call in fatally sick, spend months in hospital, get medical parole and... miraculous healing will follow. This "rule of law" does not apply to non-ANC hotshots; 5. we cannot afford to give Mandela proper public healthcare - so the ANC suggested a new form of medical procedure called "vote for ANC to keep Mandela alive". The procedure is too costly for sane voters and is unlikely to provide Mandela with any proper medical care; 6. I can't continue - it is too depressing....

      Jan Spies - 2011-05-06 15:41

      I lol'd...and then I sad'd :/

  • Graeme Sears - 2011-05-06 15:28

    IT's about compitence, if he knew about it; he's corrupt. If he didn't know about it he's incapable of putting strangers behind bars for the same crime.

  • Achmed - 2011-05-06 15:28

    Cwele and his wife are just making sure they have the up to date credentials for the next election and deployment to gavurmunt. Silence!! I ---- you.

      Playnice - 2011-05-06 15:38

      she may even be offered the post of "minister of Trade and Industry"

      keng - 2011-05-06 15:41

      brilliant. Sad but true

      spacemonkey - 2011-05-06 17:51

      @Playnice That's not a bad idea. I say we nationalise the drug trade instead of the mines. (For the sense of humour impaired -- I'm joking.)

  • Hlabirwa - 2011-05-06 15:28

    Must he be crucified like Jesus when he died for our sins?

      maseratifitt - 2011-05-06 17:14

      good golly

  • Wolraad Woltemade - 2011-05-06 15:29

    @ SHEEP - We do not need to vote the ANC out, lest the judgement become ours... No need to... There is an old saying which goes like this: If you are in a Hole stop digging - I recommend that for you at this moment - That applies to many politicians - Including your mighty ANC - I promise you, the hole where the ANC is located will cave in upon themselves simmilar to the old NP - They are irrelevant today - Before the comes pride, Before doom comes greed. I will go further now with my daily activities and be rest assured of the above.

  • Wolraad Woltemade - 2011-05-06 15:30

    Before the FALL comes pride, Before doom comes greed. I will go further now with my daily activities and be rest assured of the above.

  • jmokgotlhoa - 2011-05-06 15:33

    The minister must also be investigated for complicity. Surely he was aware of these dealings...(my conspiracy theory-: The Minister is being blackmailed by his shady financiers to commit these crimes. The Mafia seem to target those in key positions i.e. Jacky Selebi, Jacom Zuma, etc.etc)

  • Hlabirwa - 2011-05-06 15:33

    Crime happens right under noses and its rare/difficult to figure out when it happens in your family especially from wife or husband. Looking at both of lives and schedule of work,i'm sure they were not spending much time together due to work responsibilities.This should be a lesson that crime is everywhere, especially places that no one can suspect. Lets look out for crimes in all spheres. Not just outside our homes.