Minister and Cele escape scrutiny, again

2011-10-07 18:32

Cape Town - Public Works Minister Gwen Mahlangu-Nkabinde and National Police Commissioner General Bheki Cele will no longer appear before a scheduled joint meeting of two parliamentary committees on Monday.

ANC chief whip, Mathole Motshekga, said on Friday he had received a "proposal" to postpone the meeting.

The duo was scheduled to appear before the National Assembly's public works and police committees in connection with the SA Police Service lease deals.

Public Protector Thuli Madonsela was also scheduled to attend.

Motshekga said the meeting would not have been able to "adequately attain its intended goals" due to problems relating to the unavailability of several committee members.

They had unavoidable commitments in their constituencies and other parliamentary deployments, he said in a statement.

Mondays are dedicated to parliamentary constituency work.

For this reason, the chief whip accepted the proposal from the committees to postpone the meeting until further notice.

Motshekga advised the committees to, in the interim, take full advantage of the upcoming parliamentary budget review and recommendations process (BRRP) meetings to deal with the contents of the public protector's report and make appropriate recommendations to relevant authorities.

The BRRP is an annual mechanism used by Parliament to evaluate and scrutinise the overall performance of government departments, including budget spending.

‘Delaying tactics’

"After the conclusion of this highly intensive and well focused process, Parliament will make appropriate recommendations to the departments, including the treasury in an event of financial indiscretions, for remedial action."

Should these processes not sufficiently achieve the desired objectives, a special meeting or meetings of the relevant committees would be rescheduled to deal with the matter, Motshekga said.

The decision was criticised by Democratic Alliance MPs Dianne Kohler Barnard and John Steenhuisen.

They said this was the third time the minister had failed to appear before Parliament to explain herself on this issue.

It was now clear that the establishment of the joint committee was not motivated by a desire to hold the minister and the commissioner to account.

"It was set up so that President [Jacob] Zuma could delay acting on the recommendations in the public protector's report. These delaying tactics fool nobody."

Zuma needed to show South Africa that he had the courage to act against corruption in his government.

He should take action against Mahlangu-Nkabinde and Cele without any further delay, they said.

  • Witsie101 - 2011-10-07 18:35

    Banana Republic

      johnnoh - 2011-10-07 18:41

      Yellow, bent and hang in bunches!!!!!

      Sedick - 2011-10-07 18:47

      Please be patient while Zuma applies his mind.......

      Met - 2011-10-07 19:00

      Openly liers too, other than thieves, vagrants and gangsters. They dont even pretend to be otherwise. The time has come for the opposition parties to re- assess their position. What they are doing, aint working

      THE-SRG - 2011-10-07 19:02

      I have had it up to my bloody eyeballs with these people...if the people of SA cant see through this crap then i just dont know what will happen from here on...they make me sick to my stomach. Every time i read this BS i wanna puke.Its high time that the people that pay their way here stop paying!

      Met - 2011-10-07 19:03

      Cont- The presense of the opposition parties in parliament, is merely giving credibility to evil

      Rolie - 2011-10-07 19:32

      We must pray for their downfall. I hope they all get the pox these Maaifoedies!!

      Rolie - 2011-10-07 19:34

      Public Works Minister Gwen Mahlangu-Nkabinde has got a face like a box full of burst sphincters!!!

      Dingaan - 2011-10-07 19:45

      @ Sedick. Agreed. He is probably battling to find one.

      Coconut - 2011-10-07 20:28

      The ANC is a criminal organization finnish and klaar.

      AMS-Dammer - 2011-10-07 21:11

      "........"It was set up so that President [Jacob] Zuma could delay acting on the recommendations in the public protector's report. These delaying tactics fool nobody."............" Yep.... this is a FINE EXAMPLE of a BANANA REPUBLIC AT WORK!!!! Keep it on ice... until the "URGENCY" runs out... FFS... Jacob Zuma... tell your CHINESE MASTERS you are a SERVANT OF THE PEOPLE.... and NOT THEIR KING/SAVIOUR/MESSIAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fire these DEPLOYED CADRE'S.... they are WORTHLESS and CORRUPT.... send them to JAIL WHERE THEY BELONG!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Vlooi - 2011-10-07 21:37

      @THE-SRG - do you think that is what happened to juju?

      cliffarc - 2011-10-07 23:49

      - Another theft about to be swept under the carpet. How much longer does the Anc believe they can blatantly steal from taxpayers , without consequences ? All the talk about getting tough on corruption was just another Anc lie. How will this country ever prosper and advance under a govt. with no morals or integrity ? Apart from their sheer incompetence in running the country, the Anc are responsible and have set the tone for the criminality that is now endemic to S. A. The Anc circus plunders this countries fortunes and future by the day.

  • george60 - 2011-10-07 18:40

    How long will Zuma be such an embrassment for ALL in South Africa? Shit its bad, just shows the incompetancy of the whole lot in the ANC!!!!

  • leonard - 2011-10-07 18:42

    As predicted,the evil ANC get their way.They will never allow any of the top brass to be found guilty of anything,this would be admitting to failure at which they are gold medal winners.I spit on them all.

      KarooOstrich - 2011-10-07 19:00

      You spit on them all - I would not even urinate in their faces if they were lying dying of thirst in the desert because they r too disgusting for words. Really plain bloody useless.

      leonard - 2011-10-07 22:00

      @Myself........Had an additional thought on Cele.Should have known early in the week that something was up.Cele was very full of himself ,said that he was here to stay and had things to do.He very obviously knew at that stage what was to come.More proof of the conivance of the evil ANC under Zuma.Where are the good,honest ANC bigwigs of which I am sure there are a few? Stand up and be counted before it really is too late.

  • Vela Stardust - 2011-10-07 18:42

    The ANC government is incapable of making good decisions! Izibhanxa!

  • Phlegm - 2011-10-07 18:45

    Postpone, postpone, postpone, Delay, delay, delay, With any luck the problem will just go away!

      cliffarc - 2011-10-07 23:57

      - Deny, deflect, duck and dodge.

  • Ross - 2011-10-07 18:46

    anyone surprised?

      em_oh! - 2011-10-07 20:33


  • gatvol4corru - 2011-10-07 18:46

    so much for democracy,responsibilities and accountability. SA is the joke of the world with our corrupt and incompetent 3rd world government. F*king pathetic. Load the pockets more comrades

  • KarooOstrich - 2011-10-07 18:46

    Here we go again!! Exacly NOTHING will come of these things. Protecting their own is far more important than clean government + looking after taxpayers money. Typical delaying tactics employed + eventually the whole thing will just frizzle out. Any burning embers still left will just get swept under the carpet as usual. THIS is the whole reason why corruption will not stop as long as the ANC are in power - because they see that they get away with it almost every time. Sies man - absolutely disgusting. Bloody morons. They have outlived their time. Time for a new govt. the people + the country deserve much better. These lying thieves have no shame whatsoever.

  • Deset Rat - 2011-10-07 18:47

    The ANC is in lockdown mode. As is already evident the "secrecy bill proposals" are already in full force. No need to think of a review. Baton down boys and girls, you better believe it the state secret police are listening to your ever word and movements.

      Roche - 2011-10-07 20:32

      You dont honestly believe they are capeable of operating a working inteligence agency ? the state secret police are lisening to kwaito or rap/hip hop.

      sniperman - 2011-10-08 10:34

      Don't underestimate the state secret police!!!! They have the most sophisticated equipment and are eaves dropping on every form of electronic communication there is for any anti-ANC sentiment. What do you think RICA was for? To combat crime? No, for the exact above mentioned reason.

  • chargall - 2011-10-07 18:49

    The African National Conmen at their miserable best.

  • mermaid - 2011-10-07 18:50

    These maaifoedies really get away with murder not even public protector can hold them accountable. Shame on you anc.

  • IsThatAFact - 2011-10-07 19:08

    Don't you think its getting very near the point where the peace loving and honest people who are trying to make it work in this country are feeling enough is enough with all the crap dishonesty and stealing from this government if you can call it that its the perpetual and total disappointment in the so called government who are supposed to be taking this country into a free and fair and prospers future.

      KarooOstrich - 2011-10-07 21:11

      Yea, we the taxpaying public are gatvol for their bloody crap + corruption.

  • leonard - 2011-10-07 19:11

    News24.I am now doing the African thing.I demand that you remove the picture of Blade the red.Enough already,it really is making me ill.

  • Shayne - 2011-10-07 19:19

    Absolute disgrace

  • John Galt - 2011-10-07 19:19

    Bloody mafoedies!

  • The Kaapman - 2011-10-07 19:25

    I think it is time that the public take action! This action should be targeting the ministers and leaders who miss use our tax funds! We should sit outside their homes, their offices, their friends houses, their family houses! We should show that we will not allow Government the right to miss use our trust! We should encourage that it will be to their interest to resign and not for a puppet president to make his friends say, I am sorry! We should all vote against ANC Forever! I may have voted for them now and then if they showed good leadership and disciplined their members. I'll Now Vote DA or Cope or UDM as they show proper leadership. Amandla SA Amandla DA!

      umlaut - 2011-10-08 10:02

      Yes kaapman --good ideas, but we will be arrested and these guys are on the same wave length as Assad of Siria- The voters made the wrong choice for a democratic government--They voted anc and the majority says, that is the way it will be done---...steal it ...--do what you want with SA, even if they don't get a penny out of it. THE PROBLEM IS NOT THE GOVERNMENT--THE PROBLEM IS THE PEOPLE THAT VOTED THEM IN. Find out who voted for them and go and sit on their grass or outside their homes and demand from them the money back that They ALLOWED TO BE STOLEN...!!!! ..!!!!The true TRAITORS of this short lived democracy are the voters that put them there---I wonder how they can sleep at night knowing they are helping to destroy SA.

  • 106SA - 2011-10-07 19:27

    Gosh...I am so surprised????Normally the ANC are so transparent and honest?They have nothing to hide or deny??This must be the work of an agent!!Or Max Du Preez??Or Tutu??

  • Slapper - 2011-10-07 19:34

    I wonder how much more sh8t can fit under the carpet? It must be so high now it is near the ceiling.

  • Kate - 2011-10-07 19:38

    Ah, let us see if Cele can book himself into a private hospital with flu like symptoms. Bloody agent

  • Dingaan - 2011-10-07 19:42

    @ Sedick. I agree. He must be battling to find it.

  • li'l cherub - 2011-10-07 19:42

    Why am I not in the least surprised!

  • mengelbrecht1 - 2011-10-07 19:46

    The Untouchables

  • Lauren - 2011-10-07 19:47

    Here's the deal. I go to work every day in order to earn a salary. You, the Government, takes a nice portion of the money that I have earned in exchange for delivering a service to me and my fellow South Africans. That is how the democracy that you, the ANC, subscribe to works. Now do not be suprised when I get annoyed that the money that you take from my pay cheque is used to fund your members' lavish lifestyles. I will gladly give to anybody who is in need and asks me for help. You guys aren't even asking though, are you? You are just taking it. Not to help others. To help yourselves. I honestly believed that you would take my money and apply it to the upliftment of the poor. Use it to deliver a service. How deluded was I? If you are not into truly governing, but rather into ruling and taking and spending, just rather come out and say it. You seem to be doing it in any event. I don't like it. As your employer and salary payer, I take exception to this. If you want to be "rulers" and rule over a kingdom until Jesus comes back, do so, but say it. Then we all know where we stand and we can stop hoping and dreaming for a better tomorrow for all South Africans. We are hanging onto hope though. It seems however that, ANC, is not where it's at. You did a good job with liberating us from Apartheid. Thanks for that. After that, you let us down. It is shameful.

      em_oh! - 2011-10-07 20:43

      So true....well said

  • StoneAngel - 2011-10-07 20:08

    "They had unavoidable commitments in their constituencies and other parliamentary deployments, he said in a statement." Why then don't you tell us all what and where these esteemed 'committee members' are doing and going that is so important - so we can check up and see if it is really so important to miss such a pressing problem. Actually I think you are lying to us all in the RSA. Funny when I am subpoenaed to attend court I have to go on that date 'come hell or high water' as the saying goes - why does this not apply to civil SERVANTS as well.

  • Joubs - 2011-10-07 20:13


  • StoneAngel - 2011-10-07 20:14

    When oh when are the DA or any other opposition party going to stop this government screwing us around with this nonsense. Please let us know why we vote for you - you appear as if you too are gutless.

      Off Grid - 2011-10-07 23:06

      Political parties have no power over each other, unfortunately. The only power lies with the people. So if you have to call anyone gutless, it is US, the citizens of South Africa :(

  • Levett - 2011-10-07 20:15

    Why is this not a criminal case handled by the court? ANC maaifoedies above the law or what?

  • Robert Hurn - 2011-10-07 20:20

    Roux Shabangu and Cele met where? Let's see who is smart? Robert Gumede's R 60 million wedding in Mpumalanga. Where incidentally Malema was also a quest speaker. Robert whom donated something like R 20 million to the ANC Polokwane conference or elections. Wow the plot thickens - The brain behind Who am on line nothing R 2+bn And not delivered. What's to easy about this government and its private allies is tying ropes. Read your news papers.

      Robert Hurn - 2011-10-07 20:30

      You guys have no idea how and what is going on around Robert King Gumede, This guy is evil.

      Robert Hurn - 2011-10-07 20:36

      What happened with his gripe with the Mail and Guardian paying top officials top dollar from his wife's account to win a tender. Suddenly quiet. Nothing about of that ever was mentioned, who did he pay to stop. I was a bid thing. Look deeper my people of Africa. He is rich.

      Robert Hurn - 2011-10-07 20:55

      What you guys dont know - He has these fancy Gauteng toll gates that will F.... us all. He won the tender. How is that. He King Robert has won numerous tenders in Gijima (Run) in African Language and Not complete in English (F....up). Focus on the money line - Where is Mail and Guardian on this guy - Hands in the cookie Jar. R 60 million for a wedding a people starve. Common people this is your next evil comrade, Not Julius.

  • gatvol4corru - 2011-10-07 20:26

    it even looks stupid

  • semaj - 2011-10-07 20:30

    Sorry boss, mondays are my laundry day so I cannot come to work, but please do not dock my pay

      em_oh! - 2011-10-07 20:49

      You have a job? Hold on buddy cos after Zuma nationalises everything the only one who will have a job are his buddies.

  • vanommen.jan - 2011-10-07 21:04

    I wished it was not...

  • Mark Haupt - 2011-10-07 21:09

    One word - bullsh*t. They now spend more time making up excuses for why they're not doing what they're paid to do than they do working. If the government/ANC were a public company they would have been bankrupt a while back.

  • Robert Hurn - 2011-10-07 21:12

    Robert its not the people you think open mouth. Its very close.

  • Daniel du Plessis - 2011-10-07 21:32

    more pathetic excuse than Mr Malema and it's eaten up as the gospel by teh lame brains in Parliament - I agree wholeheartedly with teh Wits academics that our leader are morally bankrupt

  • James - 2011-10-08 02:16

    one word - pathetic

  • James - 2011-10-08 02:22

    Zuma - we the South African public - who you are answerable to (contrary to popular belief) demand answers, and you are obliged to provide. Get off your a r s e and show the world and SA that you are not a soft and worthless leader as is really popular belief

      umlaut - 2011-10-08 09:43

      James---he hasn't got time for that---he has a big extended family to look after and he must fly around the world sorting out political problems. And did you know they are flying to SWITZERLAND to have his planes serviced and then he goes on a holiday as well at the tax payer's expense. THESE GUYS ARE EVIL. There is no way to save SA. We all know we must get out of here soon or we shall be sitting with nothing and not even a safe future for our children. And yes, we can all see there is interference in the way news is controlled. The anc has definitely got some hold on News24-threats of arrest??? Threats of harassment?- The anc can easily say they will raid them on some or other imaginary charges and that will set them back months to get organised again. News 24 must get themselves established outside of SA so that they can't be closed down.

  • James - 2011-10-08 02:26

    Freedom of press expression and press!!!!!!!!!! Anybody notice how all the Julius Malema articles do not have the facility to post comments after the hammering he got recently for his hospital stint. Could it maybe just a teeny weeny bit possible that there might be just a fraction of a little bit of political interference somewhere???

  • James - 2011-10-08 02:27

    Oops, meant to read Freedom of press and freedom of expression!!!???

  • MnrFotograaf - 2011-10-08 07:46

    What a load of bullocks. The Thuli should just take this and make a fraud case against both these people. She has the proof, so what is she waiting for. Political bosses should have no standing in cases like this.

      umlaut - 2011-10-08 10:58

      The forces of corruption are so strong that Thuli can truly not function properly. Bribes at the right place and time can do wonders to upset logical thinking and to upset schedules. This corruption has already destroyed the democracy and the only way for their new evil system to function is to keep corruption going and to spread its tantacles to touch and embrace as many as possible--that is making them untouchable with many layers of cancer that will first have to be penetrated before they can be touched--and in SA now ------- never,-never will they be touched. Let us call it South Africa, the NEVER-NEVER-LAND..... Never never will we see our democracy again- it is gone. They will put the seal on the future of SA by having their dictatorship as to finally protect their corruption network and gravy train.--Unless a miracle happens-all the voters vote for Masibuku,--- or mokabe's disease wipes out the anc and their voters, or----.. we haven't got the majority vote, but we still have Wouter,--he can make a mixture of something that is in the drinking water that makes the IQ of all peolpe rise by 100% and then all the people of SA vote for the DA.

  • umlaut - 2011-10-08 09:11

    Mathole is the man that said that the constitution is an obstacle for the activities of the anc and that the law is hindering them to "function". So this is not surprising--he is obviously aiding them to get out of this mess. GIVE A FEW MONTHS AND THE CASES WILL BE SWEPT UNDER THE CARPET. Sorry to say but SA is on a path of self destruction under the anc attempted leadership. The forces of a democracy are unable to resist this growing dictatorship. This problem is much wider than just certain cases- the rot of lawlessness is filtering down all the way to the bottom. If the top guys are getting away with it the guys at the bottom will try their luck also, and that goes for human right abuses also. Vusi Shongwe (safety and security) appointed a new intervention unit and it seems he gave them the instruction to terrorise whites because this gang attacked a farmer. CORRUPTION with this leasing scandal is costing the tax payers lots of money and the claims against the police also. (R11bln. so far) This farmer will also lay a claim against the police and every little case is adding up. This dictatorship is not even fully established yet and we can't get rid of it already. Coming election time they would probably have bribed every black in SA (with stolen tax payer's money) to vote for them, or they would have changed the voter's areas as to neutralise the oposition. Then they have 80% votes and ---you have your fully fledged dictatorship for another 40 years at least.

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