Minister denies R800m 'Zumaville' donation

2012-10-09 16:23

Cape Town - The agriculture department has no plans to donate R800m to the Nkandla development project, Agriculture Minister Tina Joemat-Pettersson said on Tuesday.

Responding to a barrage of questions from members of Parliament's portfolio committee on agriculture, forestry and fisheries, Joemat-Pettersson took aim at opposition parties and the media.

"There is no R800m that was allocated, no R100m allocated, so if certain political parties like the Democratic Alliance and the media want to run agriculture... and we will not allow our agenda to be set by the DA and media," she said.

Joemat-Pettersson's attack came after MPs from across the political spectrum asked her to clarify whether her department would be prioritising funds for President Jacob Zuma's homestead at the expense of other poor, rural areas in the country.

"Tell us how much money you prioritised to favour the interest of the president at the expense of the general public of South Africa?" Congress of the People MP Nqaba Bhanga asked.

Joemat-Pettersson and her officials described any inference of donations from her department to the Nkandla development project as "rumours devoid of truth".

Acting director general Sipho Ntombela expressed frustration at the questions, and said the department had tried to kill stories of the donation, but could not.

"I appeal to this committee to help us bury this story, which is obviously a lie, but is living and kicking out there," said Ntombela.

Chief financial officer Jacob Hlatshwayo said he had not approved any spending on Nkandla.

In August, the City Press newspaper quoted what it called an official document from government as stating Joemat-Pettersson would be contributing R800m to the Nkandla project, which has been called Zumaville.

  • akshar.sookraj - 2012-10-09 16:28

    So the weather in JHB was pretty wet this morning, i see the SUn has come out for a bit... Thats News Worthy... We all know some way or the other this will be done... Hay Anc... Tosser's

      gerry.gee.39 - 2012-10-09 16:44

      Bit of rain in Cape Town this morning, fine now, bit windy. Whale is off the beach at last.\r\n\r\nAnc denial reminds me if Bill Clintons denial: I did NOT have sexual relations with that woman. The truth as WE know it, will come out.

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  • nrgx.nrg - 2012-10-09 16:31

    this would kind of explain why the DG cannot account for some of the spent funds. anc thesaurus: denial = its the truth but we wont admit it

      sharon.erwin.96 - 2012-10-09 17:42

      Deny, deny deny. They can just as well admit it! What is 800 million, anyway? It's just money.... Easy to spend when they never earned it in the first place!

      lacrimose.wolf - 2012-10-09 19:45

      It was probably R999million, so they technically haven't lied

  • nicholas.graan - 2012-10-09 16:36

    Lie and deny. It would not surprise me if this was true. So easy to spend other peoples money ...even easier when you are trying to curry favour with the Chief.

  • gladstone.dyonase - 2012-10-09 16:37

    Of coz you know nothing about this, you are an acting DG. Even if you did, can anyone from this ANC of ours tell a truth.

      christelle.james.7 - 2012-10-09 17:10

      Gladstone, we do not know whether this is the truth, but how many similar stories have surfaced, been denied and later proved to be the truth. I am just asking one question - how can the poor in this country still support the ANC?

      gladstone.dyonase - 2012-10-09 22:57

      These leaders are using our insecurities as a weapon to win in national elections. We, or I am no longer voting for ANC because of my comittment, its because I'm not sure if the DA might not bring back that old Apartheid system.

      christelle.james.7 - 2012-10-09 23:10

      Gladstone - the DA would never bring back the old system. Can I tell you, not even the white people will allow it! You know, our country has gone way beyond black/white. We are all suffering terrible injustices - black people (barring a select few) are becoming poorer by they day. White people are just fight to stay alive Many black and white people are leaving our country Don't let your liberators become your oppressors - if you do not want to vote for another party, I understand, but then do not vote for the ANC either.

      p.borchard - 2012-10-10 08:14

      gladstone, I can't believe that ANYONE can still think that the DA will stand for apartheid. Serious?!? Voting for the DA or any other party - How much more confirmation do you need that what MOST of us non-anc South Africans just want an operational functioning country where the playingfield is not being trashed by powerhungry moneygrabbing thieves. If everyone just 'plays along' to make this the great country for EVERYONE, we could be the best country in the world.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-10-10 12:46

      Gladstone.dyonase. Take it from this remnant of the struggle. The DA will NEVER bring back the old system. Have no fear and don't listen to those within the ANC that tell the people these lies. They are scared the DA will win and that would mean the end of their rich little lives. It will mean they can't steal the people's money anymore.

  • fanie.viljoen.73 - 2012-10-09 16:41

    Sure, we believe you!

  • Eterni80 - 2012-10-09 16:44

    ANC + honesty and integrity = BS wanton waste + corruption = ANC JZ you are a useless waste of space, if you had a pair (6 wives and all that) you'd get on the f'ing Tv and defend yourself instead of hiding in the Karoo. I hope you get what you deserve.

  • gerry.gee.39 - 2012-10-09 16:47

    ... If certain political parties like the Democratic Alliance and the media want to run agriculture... Hell, THAT could ONLY be a great improvement you idiot.

  • george.outremer - 2012-10-09 16:53

    @News24 - so the Agriculture minister has lashed out at the DA and the media. That she is emotional about full disclosure is cause for concern and requires further investigation. How about the official document City Press newspaper has quoted from? More detail on this please.

  • motleleng - 2012-10-09 16:57

    R230 R800 = R1.038bn for Zumaville still counting, what next?

  • BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-10-09 17:01

    Too many occasions have we heard these denials, only to find later there was indeed truth in the rumours. Perhaps it isn't true, but after all that we have witnessed over the years I'll bet it is true, and what we see now is the classic denial and spin routine. (Could be wrong - but I doubt it)

  • david.diale.75 - 2012-10-09 17:02

    R230m R800 and what next.maybe another wife is on the way as usual.

  • larry.piggott1 - 2012-10-09 17:04

    Theres that word "Deny" again, so, there must be truth in it?

  • bongani.nsele.58 - 2012-10-09 17:06

    city press mole is working overtime in this government...they must try the private sector the construction industry and the mining sector with the same vigour and what they see in this government would look like childs play...good work city press but expose everyone no sacred cows without fear or favour as they say...otherwise right now you are conviniently selective at the expense of your credibility.......

      bongani.nsele.58 - 2012-10-09 17:57

      i was waiting for this, i actually left it deliberately knowing some punk will come up with "it is our money, the tax payers" if a private company overcharges the government by 300% isn't that public money

      kent.paulsen.79 - 2012-10-09 18:39

      @ Bongani. The so called private company is there to make a profit. So this punk will answer you. "if a private company overcharges the government by 300% isn't that public money" If the goverment, ANC, allows an overcharging of money it is for kick backs into ANC members pockets or the private company can not do business with the goverment. Why did the goverment allow that tender then if not for kick backs? I agree with Kenny you are an Idi**t, a big one on top of it aswell.

      bongani.nsele.58 - 2012-10-09 21:30

      so the private company can never be corrupt only the ANC even if that company is the corrupter, you are a real dimwit....

  • croix.mactee - 2012-10-09 17:10 We'll see, sis! There is still the matter of the illegal hotel stays, etc. Others were fired for the same by your buddy - now we'll have to see how well you are connected. 'Chop-a-Tina'. Bwaaahahaha! And, you are a U-S-E-L-E-S-S manager on top of everything else! Orange suit, Tina?

  • henk.vanrensburg.31 - 2012-10-09 17:10

    If it is mentioned in the news it turn out to be fact!

  • butch.poulter - 2012-10-09 17:11

    Oh pls let the DA run Agriculture. It will be the only fuctioning dept in South Africa.

  • mxolisi.x.mazibuko - 2012-10-09 17:13

    DA is an opportunist and I think, believe and just hope that's the reason why it can't win our votes. I'm not an ANC nor a DA member, but have failed to be convinced that DA can't lead us astray should we make that BIG mistake of granting it POWERS to rule this country. If they can perpetrate lies in the Public EYE, how much more about other \Conspiracies\ involved while responsible for the Presidency office?\r\n\r\n#I'm convinced they will influence the media to do what looks good for their interest, as is the case now!

      christelle.james.7 - 2012-10-09 17:26

      Mxolisi, why do you say it is many stories have been persued by the DA and found to be truth. Just look at the dust they kicked up about the non-delivery of books to children in Limpopo (amongst others) - and buddy, there children are not white. All political parties have flaws, I don't think anybody would deny that, but the DA has never been found wanting on fraud, corruption, money disappearing, enriching themselves at the expense of the poor. Now that tells me the have integrity - something I am afraid, which cannot be said about the ANC as it stands today.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-10-10 12:51

      Mxoloso.x. mazibuko. You obviously want to believe that the DA is as crooked as the ANC. Not so, but it won't help trying to convince you of that would it?.

  • hitting.thefan - 2012-10-09 17:14

    Why are you turning on the light we like to operate in the dark, another one of the sindicate are exposed. This is a web of corrupt politicians that want to pillage the coffers of the state at the expense of S.Africans and mainly to the detriment of these color blinded majority of this country. It is like seeing a thieve in your house and telling him to come back again and steal some more. I pity the stupidity!

  • Brian Dorning - 2012-10-09 17:16

    Land reform and government agric projects have a 98% failure rate. R800m in subsidies for established sustainable farmers will go a long way in reducing and minimizing food costs for the consumer AKA, the suffering South African.

  • chris.d.toit.3 - 2012-10-09 17:21

    They are stealing our hard earned money!!!! Why are we just sitting here allowing it?

  • john.bhekimuzi - 2012-10-09 17:23

    Tina do that and I will create an armed rebel group to liberate the country from ANC, enough is enough!

  • david.wolpert.39 - 2012-10-09 17:25

    Why not donate the R800m--after all it is a drop in the ocean compared to what she spends on travel and accomodation?

  • mc.segal.5 - 2012-10-09 17:25

    Alicia I nearly gave you a thumbs down for your comment....For the two letters in front of the word fortunately.. But you Are my favourite so gave u a thumbs up

      mc.segal.5 - 2012-10-09 17:27

      I only posted this once

  • steve.dupreez - 2012-10-09 17:26

    Yes Ma'm, of course Ma'm you don't lie Ma'm - I mean, it is unheard of for the government to lie, and plunder the petty cash box - know to us as the taxpayer.

  • hermann.hanekom - 2012-10-09 17:26

    Time will tell, just be patient.

  • lums.zindela - 2012-10-09 17:27

    Why can't zuma go work @ the world bank, cause really we can't afford him he's daamn to expensive for SA. I mean R2bn zumavile; R2bn private let; R238m home up grade now R800m...

  • denise.wilshire - 2012-10-09 17:30

    Please can we have your resignation too! You are underqualified and inexperienced in handling such an important portfolio.

  • johan.harlaar.9 - 2012-10-09 17:32

    Every one is holding their horses to see who is going to be the new boss after Mangaung. That's politics for you in this country.

  • croix.mactee - 2012-10-09 17:33 Your own Government- and Departmental officials keep saying you are trying to 'engratiate' your own bad little self to Mr Zoooomer. What sayeth thee? You're guilty as sin - step down (WAAAAAY DOWWWNN).

  • johan.harlaar.9 - 2012-10-09 17:35

    Maybe Nkandla is just going to be another township in the end.

  • Justin Mettew - 2012-10-09 17:44

    Now I'm really struggling to believe this: ±R200m then R800. Even all 'African dictator' do not have that much in his Swiss account, COMBINED. City Press, really?

      christelle.james.7 - 2012-10-09 17:53

      It's not in their bank accounts buddy - it is our bank accounts they are looting - governments don't make money, we give them money when we pay our taxes.

  • obadia.segwape - 2012-10-09 17:59

    i am getting pissed now

  • Ayanda - 2012-10-09 18:29

    I dnt thnk we cn afford dis zuma lifestyle t is too mch expensive 4 SA

  • wendy.schneider3 - 2012-10-09 18:51

    demand, demand, deny, deny....

  • winifred.watson.9 - 2012-10-09 19:10

    In denial again thats all these cadres know....denial denial and more denial the whole rotten bunch. That is probably her or rather our donation for her to keep her job. Whoever donates keep their job. The king of Nkandla works in misterious ways.

  • alu.rakhivhani - 2012-10-09 19:19

    Every day we see millions splashed, where do you get such money to spend on one project\donation\? I hope is not from tax, government is failing its employees, they are earning peunuts, they can't afford houses with their salaries, but money is being misused everyday by people who doesn't even know how to handle pick and shovel, tjo Msansi all they know is to sign on paper(ministers)

      hein.huyser - 2012-10-10 07:10

      Sorry to p on your battery, but where do you think government get money to splash? Taxes of coarse, YOUR TAXES that must be used for the benefit of all, but especially the poor.

  • maureen.churchill.9 - 2012-10-10 06:11

    There's no smoke without fire, it's always deny and we find out the truth which is usually ugly

  • hein.huyser - 2012-10-10 06:29

    Where there is smoke, there is a fire.....especially with this corrupt government. Just can't trust them can you? With nothing, especially money.

  • arthur.salvado - 2012-10-10 07:55

    Yep Chris, we ate subservient and allow them to steal our money. Tax payers money is NOT government money. It is entrusted to them to create facilities, infrastructures etc and what do they do ? They steal it. What to do to stop this theft ??

  • alf.pop - 2012-10-10 08:33

    Did her lips move when she made the statement? - SHE LIED!

  • stephen.leigh.988 - 2012-10-10 09:13

    This is the same stupid woman that believes it would be a sin NOT to frack up the Karoo!!!!!

  • darryl.maze.5 - 2012-10-10 09:16

    Typical ANC, deny deny deny and tell the other parties they are making this all up. Then in a months time it comes out that there was a R800mil donation and then the ANC bring out the ANC book of excuses and look for the perfect excuse. Minister just tell the truth. Its your name that will get dragged through the mud. Mind you i dont really care. You and all the ANC are in the mud.

  • lenox.ntlantsana - 2012-10-10 11:14

    Not again! My tax can benefit other provinces too!

  • kuno.tschumi.5 - 2012-10-10 11:18

    "There is no R800m that was allocated, no R100m allocated, so if certain political parties like the Democratic Alliance and the media want to run agriculture... and we will not allow our agenda to be set by the DA and media," she said. Well at least if the DA or the media would run the department we may would have a chance of seeing the funds use for what they should be used for. sitting on a high horse again a day after the damning reports about her department yesterday.

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-10-10 12:40

    Tina Joemat Pettertson, just another sardine in a tin of Zuma sardines.

  • braamc - 2012-10-10 13:43

    Another piece of useless thieving ANC c*%nt

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