Ministers’ private schools mystery

2012-09-02 19:00

Johannesburg - “Get lost!”

That’s the overwhelming response from South Africa’s top elected leaders when asked if their children go to state or private schools.

Media24 Investigations sent questions to President Jacob Zuma, Deputy President Kgalema Motlanthe, the 33 national Cabinet ministers, their deputies, 9 education MECs and 400 MPs asking them if they sent their children to private or public schools.

The only Cabinet minister who responded was embattled Basic Education Minister Angie Motshekga, who revealed that her child went to a private school.

Cosatu said it was “unfortunate” that Cabinet ministers would not reveal these details.

“The only conclusion I can make is that their kids are in private schools,” said labour federation Cosatu’s spokesperson Patrick Craven. “It shows they don’t have much faith in their public institutions.

"Our public schools should be of such a high standard that ministers would want their children to go there.”

Media24 Investigations' questions were prompted by the national debate on the ­quality of public education.

Spin doctors

Knowing where South Africa’s elected political leaders educated their children indicates their confidence in the system for which they oversee policy and budgets, and which is currently responsible for educating 12.2 million children.

But government’s spin doctors stepped in to stop ministers from replying.

The Government Communication and Information System (GCIS) advised ministers and deputy ministers not to respond.

“It is not a matter of public interest,” said the GCIS’s acting chief executive, Phumla Williams, when asked why they had advised ministers against responding.

Motshekga said her only son was in a private school, but later clarified this, saying he is a second-year student at the University of Johannesburg.

Motshekga has been basic education minister since 2009. Before that, she was the MEC for education in Gauteng.

Fourteen ministers formally refused to provide details of their children’s schooling after the GCIS’s advice, and the rest didn’t respond.

They were given more than three weeks to address the questions.


Doron Isaacs, the co-ordinator of advocacy group Equal Education, said political leaders were “hypocrites” for defending a system they themselves seemed to avoid.

He called on political leaders to choose public schools for their children.

“I think if Minister Motshekga was trusted to improve the quality of education in public schools, it would matter less that her children are in private schools.

“Unfortunately, the public no longer trusts her. On textbooks and school infrastructure standards, she has failed.

“She has seemed aloof and lacking in empathy. Therefore, that her children are not in the public schooling system will anger many,” he said.

South African Democratic Teachers’ Union general secretary Mugwena Maluleke said that those who served the public should use public services.

The union did not believe in private education.

Police Minister Nathi Mthethwa said he had discussed the questionnaire with his legal team and said that it was his “constitutional right” not to divulge any information.

'State doesn't pay'

Minister in the Presidency Collins Chabane said he didn’t understand why the information should be public.

Zuma didn’t respond and Motlanthe refused to participate.

Williams said government had “applied its mind” to the matter, and that the matter doesn’t fall within the “purview” of the state because the state doesn’t pay the school fees of ministers’ and deputy ministers’ children.

Craven said that although public office bearers had a right to privacy, the public had a right to know how they regarded public institutions like schools and hospitals.

Derek Luyt, the media and advocacy head at the Public Service Accountability Monitor, said it was reasonable to want to know where elected political officers sent their children to school.

But he cautioned that if politicians sent their children to private schools, this did not mean it was a blanket vote of no confidence in public schools.

  • Rodney - 2012-09-02 10:20

    truly this is not fair to our children in public school. And even our citezen are very ignorent. We dont see this zuma admin play us.

      tinotenda.panashe - 2012-09-02 20:03

      Rodney, show us any rich person who sends his children to a public school. Even if you where to win a lotto today, you will remove your kids tomorrow from a public school. you want the best out of your kids

      joe.bat.52 - 2012-09-02 20:24 correct especialy nowadays with this government!!! in the apartheid days the public schools were the best schools that even in the first world countries admired South African public schools with the highest academic standards with a pass rate for university acceptance not less than 70% pass rate as nothing but the best..hence everything was running like clock work because only the best people were tasked to improve and innovate the definitely cannot say that with the current people that are tasked to get South forward but politically connected people.

      chris.nel.35 - 2012-09-02 20:33

      Why do they insist on calling these parasites "leaders". We do not have any such thing in this goverment at this stage. They are all just making money and not doing anything to better this country.

      anton.vonvielig - 2012-09-02 22:18

      Tinotenda, ministers are not supposed to be classified as rich, stop defending these paracites

      warren.vanwyk.3 - 2012-09-02 22:29

      Maybe they don't want to tell us coz their kids are in private schools overseas?

      althea.meintjies - 2012-09-03 11:18

      @ Tinotenda - Isn't it their fault that our public school's level of education is so poor? Yet they send their own children to private school, so they are actually showing us all that they don't have any confidence in the South African Public School Sector... This doesn't make sense, The South African citizens are the ones paying their salaries in order for their children to go to private schools and what about our children? We can't afford private schools because our taxes needs to be paid, because petrol prices increases every month, because of inflation and because we get such low increases on our salary and even if you do get a increase it still goes to please make me understand what exactly is your point because I just don't get it!

      fredhoffman62 - 2012-09-07 08:16

      Dear Rodney I have suggested to government authorities to bring in the educational administrative standards that private schools use to ensure quality education but then the unions couldn't have control on rubbishing true education. I am a principal of a mostly black private school in Limpopo and we get 100% matric pass yearly. Only because my teachers, who are paid less than govt salary, no housing, no pension, no medical are committed to the student and classroom. I would love to see the govt education use our principles of administration. Bless you

  • mashiyane.klaas - 2012-09-02 11:18

    That's obvious. The whole parliament member have no faith in public school. Even myself I can't take my children there. And don't ask \why?\

  • harry.kgatle - 2012-09-02 11:38

    I would have loved to hear a response about this Q from madam zille and her tea lady mazibuko. Do their children go to school at a private inatitution? Haaa

      Isabel - 2012-09-02 19:34

      Typical ANC supporter. Deflect blame from the mistakes of your own party by attacking the one person who's running the best province in South Africa. Perhaps you should find out the facts, Harry, before you stick your foot in your mouth again. Thanks for clarifying that, Danita. The public schools in the Western Cape are used by ministers there because they work properly.

      frikdt - 2012-09-02 19:34

      Typical ANC response, when you're cornered try to divert attention and focus from yourself by pointing fingers at others, even if they were in no way involved in the topic under discussion.

      TsietsiMaruping - 2012-09-02 19:44

      Big-up my Brother. We would also like to know the answer of the journalist of this article.

      claudia.meads - 2012-09-02 19:49

      harry.kgatle Evidently a garden boy like you (note - if you call HZ a 'madam' the I have a mandate to call you as such) did not go to a private school in SA - Haaa..! If nobody told you - the DA id not in government, the ANC is - I would have been disappointed if her children went to a (ANC) government school - get it.., no, I did not think so... But that is why the ANC wants you in their schools, hospitals and eventually in their jails - so you can remain dense enough to defend them and vote for them, while the 'spear' screws you senseless. Robert Mugabe never went to the hospitals he forced upon his own people - clearly you deserve what you vote for.

      tinotenda.panashe - 2012-09-02 20:04

      You talk a lot of sense Harry but look at what they think of you! This society!

      louis.langenhoven - 2012-09-02 20:16

      wow Claudia! please remind me not to get in your bad books!

      burningdogz - 2012-09-02 21:09

      You Harry are obviously vomit barfed up from one of the ANC's pathetic failed institutions called a public school. Helen Zille's choice in schools is irrelevant as she was and is not responsible for the current state of our education system. The ANC on the other hand has to take responsibility. Why would any logical, intelligent person blame Helen for not wanting to send her children to an institution that failed because of ANC rule? You also have a bit of pie in your face as the Helen's kids did actually attend public school, making her more proudly South African than the muppets in the government. Sadly Harry you are not capable of critical thinking. Your entire argument is dripping with inherent flaws which you are unable to see due to your obvious limited outlook. I wonder if you and Mr Malema who started the "Madam and tea lady" rubbish notice how racist your statements are? Quite frankly you are pathetic. If you truly believed the garbage bubbling from the air-hole you call a mouth then I challenge you to compare your criticisms to the ANC and you might wake up a bit.

      om.nom.nom.01 - 2012-09-02 22:12

      The ANC is in charge of education & Ha Ha Harry wants to blame his madam, TsetsiflyMaruping wants to blame the the journalists & tinotenda.panacakes wants to blame society. It boggles the mind that these 3 clowns demand to be treated with the same respect that intelligent human beings deserve???

      pws69 - 2012-09-03 06:18

      Harry just HAS to show publicly what retards ANC supporters are. Harry, Zilles children are 28 and 23 respectively. Lindiwe Mazibuko has no children. SO, just to be sure Harry understands, I'll type this slowly. N-E-I-T-H-E-R H-A-V-E C-H-I-L-D-R-E-N I-N S-C-H-O-O-L

      pws69 - 2012-09-03 06:21

      For the record, when Zilles children were at school, they went to public schools. Typical ANC. Too stupid and too lazy to do a simple google search.

      phillys.winterbottom - 2012-09-03 09:52

      the "Tea Lady" does not have children yet you crotch stain.

  • danita.renecle - 2012-09-02 13:37

    To answer Harry's question Helen Zille's children went to public schools. Google "Interview Helen Zille- Helen Suzman Foundation." My question to the readers is R207billion is budgeted for public schooling in SA. Shouldn't we privatise Education ? Channel R207billion into the educators hands directly to uplift our education. On a programme "Despite all odds, Zimbabwean children attained 93% pass where there equivalent Matric Papers are marked in England using the Cambridge school system. This school is in JHB in a derelict building,with Zimbabwean teachers working for peanuts, because they say that education will always give their country's children the edge over others. Can't we have "against all odds children as well?" We as civilians of the country have fully understand that our children's capabilities when compared to the rest of the world rate 133 out of 142. Teachers who understand grade 6 maths content: our teacher's ability rank lower than Namibia,Botwana,Swaziland, Seychelles,Tanzania, Uganda Zimbabwe, Kenya. Kenya rates the highest, Zim next highest etc. Check Politicsweb.

      Isabel - 2012-09-02 20:30

      Sad that we're even behind Zimbabwe, acounrty that was functioning well till Mad Bob got his claws into it.

      dan.gleebits.33 - 2012-09-02 20:37

      Danita - thanks for this. It brings statistical reality onto the insane situation in SA where the ANC are simply able to rely on outdated "liberation" credentials as a guarantee of continued power, while they have simply become a new elite exploiting the public purse for self-gain as services collapse. How does this message reach the voters? That is our problem.

  • dan.gleebits.33 - 2012-09-02 19:28

    Nationwide collapse in educational standards, and the disasters in the Eastern Cape and Limpopo and we're told "it's not in the public interest" to know where our new elite leadership are sending their kids to school? Just when you thought that the arrogance and disdain for ordinary citizens has gone as far as it can, they drive the nail in further. There is a massive surprise coming up for these "comrades".

  • nicolas.gombert.16 - 2012-09-02 19:30

    Similar questions should be asked to our honourable ministers on: 1. Which health system do they use? 2. Do they call SAPS or a private security firm? I'm also quite sure they will prefer to stay in a private prison than a state prison!

      petr.valcik1 - 2012-10-05 17:46

      I think we all know that they get special care when it comes to hospitals including jumping the queue with receiving organs. However - why would they need cops when us the taxpayers provide them with a private security detail around the clock? In other words as you already know - they don't practice what they preach.

  • howard.dembovsky.5 - 2012-09-02 19:37

    Oh please! “It is not a matter of public interest,”Fourteen ministers formally refused to provide details of their children’s schooling after the GCIS’s advice, and the rest didn’t respond." simply says "go screw yourselves!" Of course government doesn't pay the school fees, but it pays the Ministers with money it gets from the public and then says “it is not a matter of public interest”? These Ministers are public SERVANTS, not rock stars and the sooner we start demanding that they be held accountable for their actions, the better. If politicians send their children to private schools, this certainly DOES mean it is a blanket vote of no confidence in public schools on the part of all who send their kids to private schools!

      althea.meintjies - 2012-09-03 11:29

      100% Howard!

  • jeanpierre.vandervyver - 2012-09-02 19:37

    Education is vital importance, it benifits a better healthier future. This country should invest education, Math, Language, is most important to move to a next level. Giving South Africa hope for a better future, stop hoping and start projecting and doing it. Knowledge will lead things to better use.

  • TsietsiMaruping - 2012-09-02 19:41

    So What if their children are in private schools? Everybody wants the best eduction money can buy for their children including our public representatives. We are paying them well as tax payers.

      FeebleGastro - 2012-09-02 19:51

      What a dumb remark. Pure African stupidity.

      malcolm.macleod.562 - 2012-09-02 20:18

      dan.gleebits.33 - 2012-09-02 20:28

      Tsietsi - whilst respecting absolutely you view on this, do you get the point? This is about saying "F*ck you" to SA voters, in particular the poor who are suffering the most with the corruption and incompetence of this government. Will we continue to support these people who simply do not care? If so, do not complain in 15 year's time when your own kids sleep in shacks while the children of these "comrades" drive past in whatever replaces the BMW X5 at that time, blue lights flashing.

  • alf.pop - 2012-09-02 19:46

    Williams: State does not pay school fees of ministers' and deputy ministers' children! Who pays their salary for stuffing everything up - THE TAX PAYER!How many of those oxygen thieves send their brats schools overseas? And we are not entitled to know what they do with our money! SOUTH AFRICAN KLEPTOCRACY IN FULL SWING!

  • Vince.York - 2012-09-02 19:50

    Perfect result of reverse racist AA & BBBEE 'trough feeding' jackals and hyenas & iselesele neh? DO AS WE SAY BUT DEFINITELY NOT AS WE DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NXA

  • ben.spreeth - 2012-09-02 19:51

    Ministers would send their children to private schools because they are neither poor nor stupid. They only want the rest of the population to be poor and stay stupid. It suits them as that is the only way they can stay in power.

      malcolm.macleod.562 - 2012-09-02 20:20

      They sure aren't poor but I'm not so sure I agree with you on the stupid part.

  • janti.cloete - 2012-09-02 19:59

    This should go for hospitalization as well...

  • lionel.defrontignac - 2012-09-02 20:06

    C'mon guys! Keep voting ANC. If you continue to believe their promises, things can only improve - NOT! - Wonder if they go to State Hospitals and clinics like the rest of us?

  • VinceMol - 2012-09-02 20:12

    News24 investigating team have managed to plagiarize "The people`s manifesto" demands by the revolutionary movement called the September National Imbizo check the people`s manifesto`s demands here :

  • khanyisile.mkhize.14 - 2012-09-02 20:14

    Tea lady attended a private school hence she lost her identity.

      ndumiso.gagayi - 2012-09-02 20:19

      So ppl tht went to private schools lost their identity? So how did you lose your brain?

      Isabel - 2012-09-02 20:41

      Well, garden boy (you called Lindiwe a tea lady) you are jealous because she is an intelligent, well-educated articulate lady. Pity you can't say the same about yourself.

      thandazab - 2012-09-02 21:11

      Wow that is so nasty of u. She's lucky she got the best education ever n has chosen what she best relates to n likes. Who r u to judge her. She's an articulate young lady n ppl shud stop calling her names n such. U don't know who she is because u don't even know her. M sure she knows exactly who she is. Jealousy makes one nasty!

      burningdogz - 2012-09-02 21:17

      Lost her identity? Exactly what benchmark are you basing your statement on? Is it because she speaks decent english? I ask because on a radio talk show two african ladies were criticized as being 'un-african' because they didn't have an accent. Is it because she recognized that the ANC failed the people and decided to join a party that seems more efficient and better suited to guide South Africa to the future? So she lost her identity because she is able to think for herself? You are insulting your own people Mkhize. Oh, and to point out, at this point it seems that all our government officials are sending their children to private institutions. I truly hope that they then lose their "identity" so South Africa might have a good future.

      pws69 - 2012-09-03 06:27

      We'll if that is the result of "losing her identity' then here is hoping all 12,2 million current pupils can "lose their identity" the same way. It will only be good for the country. But I think it is too late for you to "lose your identity". Now stop playing on my computer and wash the cars. When you are done with that, mow the lawn.

      phillys.winterbottom - 2012-09-03 10:00

      typical ANC retard, never argue intelligently, always wanting to divert attention to others, always blaming others, never had the balls to admit failure. shame i feel sorry for you.

  • willem.dehaan.94 - 2012-09-02 20:16

    Hehe, explains it, does'nt it? Knocking apartheid all the time but secretly loving it - keep their own children seperated from the lower classes! Bunch of hypocrites! Probably also only go to private hospitals, demanding to be treated by white doctors only! Lovely! If they had the slightest confidence in their own people and their great plans they would prove it by supporting them! Best vote of no-confidence one could ever have had. At least the Nats had enough confidence in their own people and institutions to support them - put their children in government schools and went to Tygerberg hospital for treatment.

  • roslyndavidrose - 2012-09-02 20:20

    Most of the teachers in rural areas send their children to former Model C schools (which receive no Dept help apart from some salaries)I don't blame them as the Dept of Educ has failed E Cape rural schools miserably. How sad that you can't even believe in the schools that you work in, and yet teachers are repeatedly blamed for poor pass rates while the MEC does nothing. It starts at the top

      Vince.York - 2012-09-02 20:23

      are you indicating that the new official language "Uguh Uguh" didn't stem from the eastern cape then, but from out of nkandla?

  • juannepierre - 2012-09-02 20:25

    Everyone has the right to educate their child as they see fit, however if none feel that a public school is a good option it brings into light the level of education in the public sector. It's how a government "trains" it's people. Do I really need to explain this? Is Bantu education that far from everyones mind? Politicians feed fodder, don't be a mule, leave the fence and eat the green grass. There is enough for everyone, that's the secret they don't want you to know.

  • mphozana.manfred - 2012-09-02 20:25

    It must be private school for their kids, they know very well what a mess public schools are, with the overcrowding and lack of everything, m so sure if they had their way it was gonna be private roads for them, blotted fat cats. Cosatu should just shut their stuffed mouths, they are barking on the side line, after that they tell us to vote for these... For lack of a better word, what is in there for them?

  • Benruster - 2012-09-02 20:30

    Bwaaaaaaa-hahahahahahaahaha... government had “applied its mind” kwaaaaaa-hahahahahahaahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!! *wiping the tears from my eyes.. O that's so funny. cANCer believe they have a mind.. Roflmao

  • tin.can.501598 - 2012-09-02 20:38

    Clearly they do when they are in control of everything.They know whats good FOR THE KIDS but do not deliver to the people.Just another clear example of abuse with a peoples party 1

  • michael.j.anderson.144 - 2012-09-02 20:43 should rename itself to Of course our ministers' kids go to private schools. Zuma's building himself is own hospital. Building an exclusive school would cause a real genuine uprising, so private schools will have to do.

  • Lethabo - 2012-09-02 20:46

    show me a rich person who is taking his/her children to publc schools.the schooling system has changed and that's why everyone would want their children to go to private schools even the journalists themselves

      Brett - 2012-09-02 20:55

      The issue isn't about rich or poor or about where journalists take their kids.The issue is about the 12 Million kids getting poor education while the ANC jets around the world playing the big freedom fighters.

  • sefako.mokgalaka - 2012-09-02 20:46

    Better life for ALL? Betrayal of the poor voters. I disagree with those who want to blame madam zille and her tea girl. This is ANC's big mistake. We need leaders who lead by example. If private schooling is good let's up the standard of all public schooling. it is back to the basics comrades. Apartheid failed a black child and sorry comrades you are failing a poor black child.

      Brett - 2012-09-02 20:53

      They don't care Sefako. At the centennial celebrations Motlanthe said they will be eating the cake on behalf of everybody......He meant it literally.

  • phumlani.veliti - 2012-09-02 20:48

    why not....if you can afford it. Government needs to set its priorities straight. 85% of learners are in public schools and they serve as a future of this messed up country. Tax payers' money need to be utilised wisely and transparently.

  • jeremy.forbes.1293 - 2012-09-02 20:49

    There isn't a person in this country who would voluntarily send their children to state schools if they can help it.This is all very good news in a way, we are dividing on the basis of class and income, not colour. Wonderful!!!

      Brett - 2012-09-02 20:50

      Brilliant comment!

      tamzyn.horn - 2012-09-02 22:58

      Exception - my son's went to a brilliant Model C Government School which we paid for dearly, but which I wouldn't change for any of the "private schools" - Go Jeppe Boys and Jeppe Prep!!!

      tamzyn.horn - 2012-09-02 22:59

      oh and oops I chose to send them there

  • steve.matsane - 2012-09-02 20:51

    Dr Aaron Motsoaledi (Minister of Health)'s son had a succesful operation from a public hospital last year...

      pws69 - 2012-09-03 06:30

      Doc Aaron is one of a few exceptional individuals in the ANC. One of only two I respect.

  • themba.moses.54 - 2012-09-02 21:06

    Pls join the September National Imbizo on Sep 12,09:00am in front of parliament(Cape Town), to demand the People's Manifesto be made law. The People's Manifesto demands that "Politicians and Public servants be forced to use public services, starting with schools, hospitals, transport and housing!" See you in People's Parliament, Cpt. People's power! Forward ever, backwards never!

      burningdogz - 2012-09-03 07:20

      This is brilliant Themba, and definately a march that I would support. Sadly I am not close to Cape Town, but I wish you best of luck with that and truly hope you reach some success.

  • Malizba Liz Mhlanga - 2012-09-02 21:16

    how we have hoped for equal education and equal treatment for all citizen of new republic the only classless place is the Kingdom of God..

  • henk.tredoux.7 - 2012-09-02 21:26

    I wonder what the turnaround time would be on textbook delivery if their kids attended a public school affected by that slight oversight! "Get lost" are they refer to the orders for the textbook that got lost "through our structures"?

  • social12345 - 2012-09-02 22:04

    Change the "question?"..."what? your educational background?..."...:)))))))))))))

  • leon.vanwyk.16 - 2012-09-02 23:23

    I wonder if it will be unreasonable of us, the public, to expect from our public office bearers to make use of the public facilities with which we, the public, that work for and pay the taxes with which our public office bearers are remunerated and enables them to manage said facilities to the best of their abilities and to the benefit of all the people that entrusted them with that responsibility. Then, maybe the public facilities will not be in the condition that they are now because while they are seated next to one another in the benches, they can receive close and personal reports and feedback regarding what issues are imminent at what public schools, public hospitals, etc. Will it be unreasonable?

  • Bfoq.Za - 2012-09-03 00:03

    As it says in George Orwell's Animal Farm: All animals are equal. Some animals are just more equal than others... That is how the pigs justified their leadership and the perks thereof. \r\nAwesome!

  • klaas.waarzegger.7 - 2012-09-03 06:19

    If anyone is interested, my kids goes to a public school (Even though I attended a posh private school). A very good public scool, one supported by the parents and governing body who dig deep into their pockets and spare time to coach etc. and refuses to let standards drop.

      pws69 - 2012-09-03 06:33

      I'm a SGB chair, and I can tell you that the number of these very good public schools are declining. Ours was the top school in ANA's last year in our region (about 220 schools) and in the top 5% of the best in the country, and it is directly attributable to the school management team, teachers, and involved parents. Then again, SADTU is not the dominant union either, NAPTOSA is.

      pws69 - 2012-09-03 06:33

      Having said that, we couldn't find a decent public high school within our area, so from next year we are going private.

  • pws69 - 2012-09-03 06:46

    Anyone interested in the facts relating to our education system must read this:

  • klaas.waarzegger.7 - 2012-09-03 07:04

    I agree Pws. As soon as a school builds a good reputation learners gets bussed in from other areas by parents who are not really interested in paying their school fees and give a hoot when it comes to assisting with maintenance or participate in any fundraing events etc. We call them passengers.

      pws69 - 2012-09-03 07:16

      There is a sliding scale on the school fees you must pay, even in a quintile 5 school, based on income. I've worked out that once more than 25% of pupils get a 50% plus rebate (up to 100%), that school will begin to fail. Just look at the example of Sandringham High. One of the best in JHB, now insolvent and giving IOUs in leiu of salaries.

  • vivian.harris.73 - 2012-09-03 07:14

    All their kids go to private schools cause they know they messed up the public schools to keep the masses illiterate....u honestly think they would allow their own kids to be without taxt books for half the year?

  • tyrone.merwe - 2012-09-03 09:06

    ......and this is why my kids are in private education

  • joe.soap.1806253 - 2012-09-03 09:45

    This happens all over the world; so why the hell is it news here? Private schools always have better education what public schools; those who can afford private schooling will send their children to private school. This entire article is pointless.

      joe.soap.1806253 - 2012-09-03 09:45

      Typo: "better education than* public schools"

  • sharon.houghton.984 - 2012-09-03 10:17

    Any well off person in this country or any other country would send thier kids to private schools. If I had the money so would I! They seem to have more amenities for sports, and schooling and they seem to have better teachers, although there are some good treachers at state schools. better than state schools here and in other countries!The kids seem to fair better and go on to university.

  • diana.gill.18 - 2012-09-03 10:28

    I dont see anything wrong with sending your child to a public school but ONLY if the conditions are suitable for the kid to be in there, i. e. if he's receiving enough attention from his teachers, if the class is not overcrowded (which negatively influences the quality of education), if the food is safe to eat, if i am not scared that the roof can just collapse on students' heads and so on. That's why we've started with education policy for our son and see no other option but to send him to a private school, unless by the time he reaches 6 something is going to be changed.

  • moi.carla.1980 - 2012-09-03 11:09

    If I could afford it, I'd also send my kids to a private school. All parents want the best for their children and at this point in time, the level of education at the private schools is much higher. Also, the added benefits of the additional subjects and all the sports options are not available at the majority of public schools.

  • grant.montgomery.5074 - 2012-09-03 12:22

    It may have not occured to Phamla Williams that the taxpayer does pay the ministers childens' education as we are paying their salaries.

  • gerhard.vanniekerk.16 - 2012-09-03 13:23

    "Williams said government had “applied its mind” to the matter..." My perception is that once this "applying its/his/her mind" phrase has been uttered it generally means we will hear no more about it. Example: where is the feedback from our illustrious leader following him "applying his mind" to the Limpopo textbook saga? Methinks "applying its/his/her mind" is cANCer speak for "go away and leave us alone"...

  • mark.henning.921 - 2012-09-03 20:50

    There is a fundamental flaw in the arguments of those who insist that public schools be used. This is that private schools are havens of wealth and privilege,separated from the problems of the mainstream of society, while public schools are the institutional embodiments of democratic pluralism itself. Neither proposition is valid. They need to ask if public schools, like other public monopolies, are serving their democratic purpose. Private schools are expensive because of the way in which they are funded. Their parents pay taxes, but get no return from the state; unlike in democracies like the Netherlands and Sweden.

  • fredhoffman62 - 2012-09-07 08:25

    Dear Rodney. If only govt would apply the standards that private schools use then there would be no need for private schools. I am a principal of a private school, mostly black youngsters in the Limpopo, getting 100% matric pass, salaries less than govt schools, no medical,pension or housing BUT my teachers are committed and in the classroom daily offering well prepared lessons. If teachers do not do the work I will fire them, simple!!!! Sadly certain organisations would not allow this as they would not be able to rubbish the education system for their own gain. Raise the standard of teacher commitment through hard education principles and we will have excellent results. I am in the middle of a pathetic education region which offers rubbish to the children BUT my students attain excellent results, although from same background, same family income, same socio-economic difficulties as students in these other govt schools.

  • johann.enslin.9 - 2012-10-05 16:43

    Every time they "apply their minds" they are screwing something up. Please stop applying your minds and get somebody who can do the job. Time to fire the ANC. Time for a new government.

  • johann.enslin.9 - 2012-10-05 16:48

    Of course they want the best for their kids...this is not the point. If I have to explain it to you you do not deserve and explanation. WTF?!

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