Corruption allegations: Ministers should quit

2012-12-10 19:30

Johannesburg - Cosatu general secretary Zwelinzima Vavi has called on ministers and senior government officials to voluntarily resign if any allegations of corruption surface against them.

He also said people who hold public office, such as the president, cabinet ministers, heads of department, unionists and other officials and their relatives should not be allowed to do business with the state.

Vavi was speaking at the International Anti-Corruption Day in Pretoria today where he said ANC members were likely to reject suggestions that politicians and senior government officials be barred from doing business with the state.

Vavis comments come just days after it was revealed that South Africa dropped to 69th spot, from 64th last year, out of 176 countries in the Transparency International Corruption Perceptions Index in 2012.

“We have to agree on some new rules. If you are the head of state, in Cabinet, in the public service, a government worker, a manager, a member of a union, you are in the ANC leadership and everywhere where you exercise some degree of influence... you must choose between business and the public sector.

"Once you do both at the same time it is inevitable that you will use your power to advantage your other interests.
The power of capital to suck you into that world is just too much to resist," said Vavi.

His comments were also echoed by the chairperson of the public service commission, Ben Mthembu, who repeated the suggestion he had made in Parliament to ban public servants form doing business with the state.

But Vavi cautioned that if the issue were to come up at the party’s upcoming elective conference in Mangaung next week ANC members would reject it.

"There will obviously be resistance from people who stand to benefit from the status quo. There will be resistance.

"Your kids your wife, family must not do business with the institution that you can influence. If we can have only those two rules we will go a long way," said Vavi.

ANC treasurer Mathews Phosa, who also attended the event, said the debate on whether public servants should be allowed to continue doing business with the state was likely to come up at the conference as the ANC was set to discuss "organisational renewal and ethics".

Vavi used the occasion to also suggest that a five-year moratorium should be imposed on officials who want to leave the public service and go into business instead of the proposed one-year cooling-off period.

Vavi repeated his stern criticism of the ANC as having become a party with "Absolutely No Consequences" in reference to the ruling party's response to the scourge of corruption.

"The culture of absolutely no consequences will continue in the absence of total prohibition. You can't be a player and referee at the same.

"It's just not possible. They must choose either to serve the public or go into business," said Vavi.

He added that Cosatu's calls for lifestyle audits to be conducted on leaders - "to see how people live" – was "unpopular" within the tripartite alliance.

He said government, business and civil society should work harder to turn the tide of public pessimism about government’s commitment to fighting corruption.

Vavi lashed some ANC members suspected of corrupt activities for mobilising "psychopaths" outside courts to march in their favour while they face criminal charges of corruption inside the courts.

  • Thebigguyjim - 2012-12-10 17:22

    Yet Mr Vavi, 783 Zoomer still has your support at Mangaung. Go figure.

      pdvermaak - 2012-12-11 03:47

      There will be no one left in cANCer.

  • china.phashe - 2012-12-10 17:31

    Speak Mr Vavi,just speak these morons can hear you.

      johan.jacobs.5680 - 2012-12-10 19:59

      Resign on allegations? Then you too must go.

      marilyn.docherty.9 - 2012-12-11 07:58

      Empty words I'm afraid - all will remain the same!!

  • debduplessis - 2012-12-10 19:37

    I second that .... we urgently await Zuma & ANC "leaderships" resignation!

  • lee.brand.73 - 2012-12-10 19:42

    All of them? Who would be left? Pravin and the tea lady???

      christelle.theron.3 - 2012-12-10 19:49

      I thought the same thing - we will have nobody left...maybe we will be better off!!!

      ancbasher - 2012-12-10 20:15

      What makes Pravin so special? He is supposed to be in charge of Govermnent spending. Is he?

      BoyvandieSuburbs - 2012-12-10 20:16

      I hereby allege that Pravin & the tea lady are corrupt too. Off you go then!

  • sharon.erwin.96 - 2012-12-10 19:45

    Words without action have no meaning.

      christelle.theron.3 - 2012-12-10 19:50

      And how many times have we seen these words - you are right Sharon.

  • werner.pretorius.12 - 2012-12-10 19:45

    So wanneer kan ons Zuma se bedanking verwag, Vavi?

  • solo.mathe.5 - 2012-12-10 19:56

    Them resisting does not mean this should not be pursued. Private corporations have similar policies, so why not the govt, and its even more important for the govt. We are tired of this now...

  • lee.brand.73 - 2012-12-10 19:56

    Vavi is a sharp little fox. There is more to this than meets the eye. Zuma is Mr Corruption right now and Vavi is telling him to step down? All is not well in paradise....

  • tobydt - 2012-12-10 19:56

    Strange... When it was time to vote in parliament if government officials should be banned from doing business with the state, the ANC voted AGAINST the bill.

      lee.brand.73 - 2012-12-10 20:00

      Not strange at all. Perfectly in line with their character!

  • Prince Kgwale - 2012-12-10 20:03

    I understand why they want to kill u Mr Vavi! Your a thorn to this corrupt ANC cadres. The first to step down is Zuma

  • valashiya - 2012-12-10 20:04

    Iyhoo kuyabeda

  • martinvdmerwe.icmi - 2012-12-10 20:04

    I agree with this statement completely

  • riad.mahomed - 2012-12-10 20:06

    And if only my aunty had ball’s, she’d be my uncle…….

  • slick.hounder - 2012-12-10 20:07

    I could not have said it better myself Zweli. I do hope those at the DAFF and DoH and NCC and DTI and SAPS CCU and Competition Commission at National Level read this article. For their days are numbered. This for allowing,permitting and condoning all the heinous,unethical and immoral abuses and fraud in the Food and Beverage Industry's. Against unsuspecting the public and customers and consumers of food and beverage products in South Africa. Whom have suffered this EVIL scenario for more years than can even be guessed at. AND it continues unabated as much as they have all been complained to for many years and all complaints have validated correct by the various Governmental Departments applicable. NO wonder South African citizens get unknowingly so ill / are so ill etc etc. Many deceased so unfairly due to the Government and its Food and Beverage Regulating Authority DON'T CARE ATTITUDE!! Alas, they ALL in for a huge surprise, soon ,real soon!!! in fact legal procedures are at a very advanced stage/imminent and they ALL know it!!

      slick.hounder - 2012-12-10 20:44

      OH and too all those that promote the DA Party. They are also aware of what has and is occurring in the F&B Industry and have DONE NOTHING TO STOP IT as much as they have been complained to for many years. What does this tell the population. Fair well Helen and as I leave the DA after many many years. Never lose sight of the FACT.... Ä way to a persons heart and mind is through their stomachs" in the first instance. ....Just saying...believe it, don't believe it, I really do not care!!

      rodney.scholtz - 2012-12-11 06:10

      add the RAF and DOT

  • zapadela.tistarocha - 2012-12-10 20:07

    Allegations -the member must step aside. If the Member is found guilty , The salaries paid to the Individual must be paid back to the Government back-dated to the day the member was asked to step down. Costs' must be recovered and Criminal charges brought against the now X-Member. Additionally charge the B***rd as a Traitor to his/her People.

      tebogo.makaneta - 2012-12-10 21:41

      As much as i would like to see that happening, paying back the gov will not happen. The same ppl who will be ex'd are not used to paying,they like free things. Haven't you heard that a lot of companies are owed millions of rands by those ppl?

  • tiaan.truter - 2012-12-10 20:12

    There goes more than half of the ANC

  • abdul.cassiem.9 - 2012-12-10 20:12

    Will never happen life's toooo comfortable on t gravy train no wonder u gettin death threats mr Vavi better watch yr back

  • enlightened.bowman - 2012-12-10 20:17

    Mr Vavi seems to be talking all the right lingo. Now..pursue it. Talking about it isn't enough. What South Africa needs is a leader with the strength of some former European leaders to effectively root out the scum that has been ruling this country for the past 20 years and put them back on Robben island.

  • Mbuso Siera - 2012-12-10 20:26

    Cosatu wants stability within the ANC's leadership....but again whats gonna to the proposed new deputy press, Human settlement minister nd the current ANC treasury since they r top business men of this country Mr Vavi...nd i agree with u about the lifestyle auditing of government official.....AND again the partners in crime these white big companies they bribe for these big the DA nd the DA goes publicly complaining about the ANC corrupt government officials....its a vicious cycle....

  • ec.van.niekerk - 2012-12-10 20:28

    I will continue saying this ...RECALL ZUMA its as simple as that !!!

  • slick.hounder - 2012-12-10 20:30

    Haha the Competition Commission is fining Companies BILLIONS of RANDS regularly. WHERE IS THIS MONEY GOING AND TO WHOM?? YET when the Competitions Commission is found out to have allowed and be allowing.permitting and condoning ASTRONOMICAL fraud and abuses against unsuspecting F&B consumers and the Commission is complained about. THE GOVERNMENT AS A WHOLE RETAINS A DEATHLY SILENCE AND NO ACTION IS TAKEN!! Need more be said people and these are FOOD and BEVERAGE PRODUCTS. Products WE have to have to survive before anything else. Not cars, and holidays, and houses etc etc!!

      slick.hounder - 2012-12-10 20:41

      OH and too all those that promote the DA Party. They are also aware of what has and is occurring in the F&B Industry and have DONE NOTHING TO STOP IT as much as they have been complained to for many years. What does this tell the population. Fair well Helen and as I leave the DA after many many years. Never lose sight of the FACT.... Ä way to a persons heart and mind is through their stomachs" in the first instance. ....Just saying...believe it, don't believe it, I really do not care!!

  • Mbuso Siera - 2012-12-10 20:38

    white owned companies offer bribes to secure big deals in government ....then fund the DA nd the DA makes noise through the media that ANC government is corrupt....both DA nd ANC r partners in corruption.....nd most of these white companies blow up the if they r innocent.....

      Erna - 2012-12-10 20:51

      You have one hell of an imagination!

      lee.brand.73 - 2012-12-10 21:00

      You guys always blame eveyone else. The ANC cannot take responsibility for anything.

      lee.brand.73 - 2012-12-10 21:04

      Heh heh. Does the white madam bother you?

      dave.hardman - 2012-12-10 21:13

      You really hate white people! You say more about yourself, when you judge others. Grow up! Every comment you make is driven by hate for the white man. Man, you must hate being black!

      musa.kamashobane - 2012-12-10 21:17

      Wena Mbuso talk substence and share what we don't know about DA. Throw a few companies' names and will check them out, please. Zuma with all the scandals If I were him I would resign for having lied so much. Who finance hum? Criminal SHaik and still to be caught Vzivian Reddy. Bring it on MBuso will be waiting

      daniel.machet - 2012-12-10 21:19

      I just hope you believe it enough to vote for some other party... well there goes wishing

      kevin.moxham.3 - 2012-12-11 06:52

      Mbuso you have these facts or is it just a thought - let us know

  • corrupt.anc.3 - 2012-12-10 20:40

    Of course then every politician will accuse every other one of corruption. They are all pure evil.

  • sbudesh1 - 2012-12-10 20:41

    The last part is dedicated to malema lol

  • John - 2012-12-10 20:43

    Yay! Does this include Zuma? Damn it! he is not a minister so he must be excluded!

  • John - 2012-12-10 20:47

    Yay! Does this include Zuma? Damn it! he is not a minister so he must be excluded!

  • dbo.kacebisa - 2012-12-10 20:48

    Your comment deserves a standind ovation...bravo well said

  • John - 2012-12-10 20:49

    Yay! Does this include Zuma? Damn it! he is not a minister so he must be excluded!

  • dbo.kacebisa - 2012-12-10 20:52

    Now for my single malt...*sipping*aaaahhh. Even mr Vavi's wife was involved in some workers insurance thingie and tht vanished somehow

  • Mbuso Siera - 2012-12-10 20:56

    Then we wont have government to run this country,no politicians & political parties , no public servants,no Cosatu.... ,no DA no Zille....because no 1 is clean Mr Vavi...its a vicious cycle of partners in corruption...

  • musa.kamashobane - 2012-12-10 21:03

    Vivi I suggest you are being politically correct in your statement by conveniently choosing to leave out Zuma and his NKandla compound, why? Are you scared of Sidumo and his cronies of KZN ?

      lee.brand.73 - 2012-12-10 21:07

      I dont think he did. He was speaking generally about goverment. When I read it JZ is the first to spring to mind. Subtle approach. Foxy Vavi.

  • sminx.r.mandla - 2012-12-10 21:07

    Vavi is a damn hypocrite, he's against corruption but yet still supports the most corrput president for a second term!! Vavi must go hang himself...

  • - 2012-12-10 21:14

    John Block, MEC FINANCE in Northern Cape, untouchable provincial chairperson of Anc. Do the honourable thing by heeding Vavi's stance and resign.

  • daniel.machet - 2012-12-10 21:14

    ummm... but who were the psychopaths marching in favour of our now president while he faced corruption charges??? hint hint - go look in a mirror

  • alivap.aliva - 2012-12-10 21:27

    Uvavi unyanisile abantu mabayeke ukuyo march xa senior oficials ze anc. Zinetyala

  • trompie1 - 2012-12-10 21:36

    VHAAAVI is just a decoy...

  • tebogo.makaneta - 2012-12-10 21:50

    Going through the whole thing obvious names came up...if what Vavi is suggesting is adopted in Mangaung i wonder who will be left in the ANC's current leadership.

  • douglas.reid.921 - 2012-12-10 22:19

    It works like this, you get a nice position with the keys to the safe, this may be your only chance, you take as much as you can. If you get caught you blame everything and everyone else and worst case you get suspended on full pay and benefits till they find another position for you where you just do it all again. Since everyone is doing it you don't have to worry.

  • ron.samuels.129 - 2012-12-11 01:49

    That would mean we'll be without a government and leadership!lol

  • Terence Hermanus - 2012-12-11 02:35

    at first i thought i really like this guy and what he is saying. then i read some comments and was reminded that he is backing zoomer... how does one have that much guts to make a speech where he does tje Exact opposite? guess he is exactly like cANCer he is aligned with....

  • corrie.steyn.75 - 2012-12-11 03:27

    Zuma en sy trawanta sal nooit bedank nie, wie gaan hulle dan besteel, indien hulle wel loop sal hulle nog betaal word elke maand, daar is so baie korrupte goeters in die gowerment, nee wat daar is net een uitweg met die spul, maar sal dit eerder nie noem nie

  • piero.mendace.5 - 2012-12-11 05:32

    Ha, Ha, Vavi. Nice try, interesting timing where was your loud choice when our deputy president was being labelled corrupt. That's right not enough evidence, or maybe evidence which was not suppressed by your beloved ANC.

  • arthur.salvado - 2012-12-11 05:56

    The whole system is corrupt. Very few would be left in government. Then the next would move in and steal what's left. Viva Africa viva.

  • kevin.moxham.3 - 2012-12-11 06:27

    talk and more talk - put this talk into action comrade - otherwise you are just like the rest - all talk and no action....!!

  • vivian.harris.73 - 2012-12-11 06:38

    If u can't get Zuma to quit with all the evidence against himn then how u gonna get the rest of the corrupt fools to quit?

  • zwivhuyamufamadi - 2012-12-11 06:41

    I think you bin sayn that for the past 4yearz. Is time you act. We tired of you always sayn the rite thngs on the paper bt in practise same old corrupt government official getin richer n richer.

  • attie.gerber.1 - 2012-12-11 06:49

    vavi in your life time and millions of south africans life time it will never happen and you know that. the whole of africa is the same for many, many years and so corruption will continue. it is what you people call " the african agenda and democracy " enrich yourselves at the expense of the poor

  • andrew.mackie.90 - 2012-12-11 06:52

    How many members would then remain in Parliament if this action was followed?

  • Graham.Cooper2 - 2012-12-11 07:41

    And then who takes over an empty cabinet?

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