Mkhize blasts 'Malema' song

2012-05-13 22:39

Newcastle - Ill-disciplined ANC members do not deserve to have their names uttered, even when songs lambasting them were sung, KwaZulu-Natal ANC party chair Zweli Mkhize said on Sunday.

In what appeared to be a reference to expelled ANC Youth League leader Julius Malema, Mkhize said: "We must not allow the need for public censure of individuals whose misconduct we disapprove of to be elevated to ANC songs."

"Some of the people are so ill-disciplined that they do not deserve having their names uttered by ANC mouths."

His comments drew much applause and laughter from delegates.

Mkhize said he noted the creativity of songs that were sung by delegates at the three-day conference held in Newcastle.

On the opening day, before President Jacob Zuma delivered the keynote address, delegates sang songs criticising Malema. The lyrics to one of the songs sung was: "We were almost tricked into removing Zuma because we were being fooled by Malema."

Mkhize said the songs should unite members of the ANC and should reflect the struggle credentials of the party.

It was not the first apparent reference to Malema at the conference.


On Friday, Zuma made it very clear that any organisation formed by the African National Congress belonged to the party, which would have the final word on it.

"There are many other youth leagues... but this one belongs to the ANC. The fact stands: This is the ANC's youth league and the ANC has the final word," Zuma said.

Zuma said even the organisation's armed wing Umkhonto we Sizwe had remained subservient to the ANC during the armed struggle.

After Zuma's opening address on Friday, Mkhize presented his political report to delegates.

Mkhize said disrespect of ANC leadership, party structures and policy decisions was leading to dysfunctional structures.

"Even though they may not be features of the ANC in our province, they remain symptoms of an organisation beginning to self-destruct and will also have a significant impact in the future of our movement," he said, presenting his political report.

"There are members who have deliberately flouted rules of the organisation, persistently disregarding any guidance, which itself is rejected with derogatory remarks about elected leaders."

He said this resulted in the erosion of the credibility of the leadership and the ability to maintain internal discipline.

  • Sechaba30 - 2012-05-13 22:49

    The most tribal region in SA has spoken, this region is supporting someone who is screwing everything he sees in this country. Malema told us that Zuma is bad news for us and I support his comment. Tribalism will never lead us to economic freedom. Goodluck KZN with your dictatorship tendencies.

      Hadebe - 2012-05-13 23:18

      Pkheswa, u better keep your mouth shut, if ungazi ufuna ukthini.

      Sechaba30 - 2012-05-13 23:38

      KZN is the only Province where lobbying for Mangaung leadership is open , why? the answer is simple. Support the dictator and you are safe.

      Hadebe - 2012-05-14 00:03

      @ thabane shame, bungenaphi ubulima la?

      Inkunzi - 2012-05-14 00:15

      Most Tribal Region? Interesting don't you think? Do you have proof that the KZN province supports dictatorship? Which dictatorship are you talking about? Once you answer these questions then we can debate politics, until then I shall consider you "a refugee" to the politics.

      thabane.dladla - 2012-05-14 00:19

      Kyangena! Race cards and tribalism unacceptable ....only idiots who brings them.

      Mark - 2012-05-14 02:14

      One thing's for sure, you guys can't blame this one on apartheid... What am I saying? Of course you can! :(

      BuyaniAlja - 2012-05-14 03:01

      Economic Freedom in Limpopo, could the National Government Administration be used to support your KZN dictatorship claim?\r\nTribalism? Clearly you listen to uniformed people like your mentioned 'mentor', I suggest you go to countries like Afganistan or Bahrain, until then you'll not understand what tribalism is.

      twetwisa - 2012-05-14 04:27

      @sechaba well said my brada we need 2 start tellin th truth,I personally thot every black community wil vote 4 anc particular Madiba in 1994 bcoz of wht thy dd 4 struggle,I'm nt surprised tht these leaders Blade,Sdumo,Gigaba,Mthethwa n Mkhize r supportin Msholozi

      Chumscrubber1 - 2012-05-14 06:30

      At least somebody admits tribalism is alive and well in SA. These pesky Zulu's. To be fair to Malema, there is not much to respect about the leadership of the ANC - bit shallow coming from someone like Malema though, who is an even worse example of someone that does not deserve any respect.

      Schmee - 2012-05-14 07:13

      My goodness, it seems the natives are getting restless. *sips tea*

      Michelle - 2012-05-14 07:17

      Sechaba, while what Malema may say about Zuma is true; Malema is even worse for this country because he generates HATRED amongst the people of this country

      Gieljam - 2012-05-14 07:41

      When one reads of the general political culture and thinking of the new dispensation one cannot comprehend the low maturity level displayed or complete lack there off ..

      Hudayfah - 2012-05-14 07:47

      no :o . .did someone just say refugee? I will report this racist statement. :-)

      Nkululeko - 2012-05-14 08:08

      Sechaba, ur head is only big, it is empty, people in KZN will vote for whom they believe is suitable for the position. Voting for Zuma is not a crime, for ur info. As long as I still believe he is a good man for the position. I seen u r crying about "screwing everything", for ur info again, that is none of ur busines, unless u want him to screw YOU. U talk about tribalism, do u understand what tribalism mean? Or maybe u just overheard a term passing by. U say u support Malema's comment saying Zuma is bad news, but let me tell u, Malema is a disaster in this country.

      Lorain - 2012-05-14 08:12

      @ Sechaba30 Tell me, at what point did Malema decide that Zuma is bad news and screws everything in sight? I'll tell you when, when the president called him to order. how quickly we forget statements like "we will kill for Zuma"and that statement made by malema himself that the lady in the rape charge case enjoyed herself. You people ( malema's supporters) wnat to move the goal postrs whenever it suites you. I will have Zuma anyday over malema (that's just my personal opinion).

      Musawenkosi - 2012-05-14 08:13

      These comments Sechaba are showing how ill discipline you are, they are careless and rackless. When attacking the ANC and its president and leadership just do it but not the Zulus because they have got nothing to do with this.

      Peter - 2012-05-14 08:37

      HAHAHAHA i love how the ANC supporters fight amongst themselves like children in the sandbox, keep it up Hadebe + Sechaba30. I want your ANC to crumble :)

      Freddie - 2012-05-14 08:51

      Dissention in the ranks? Love it. "We were almost tricked into removing Zuma because we were being fooled by Malema." How thick do you have to be to be fooled by Juju? Apparently the ANC collective IQ leaves a lot to be desired. BTW, you can still remove Zooma and keep Juju out, that would be a start. Just a tip for the future, try pick a leader who has at least passed matric and can read a speech without using his finger to trace where he is.

      Nigel - 2012-05-14 09:12

      Seems Mr Malema has managed to even divide blacks along tribal lines, this will rip the ANC apart, you can already see that there is no love lost between Zuma & Malema supporters, well it seems the poor will get poorer & the uneducated & jobless will stay that way, all this while the ANC squabbles for power, with the 3 stooges (thugs) Malema, Zuma & Sexwale using everything in their power to get or keep power, Zuma using the police, Malema using the poor & creating racial & tribal division & Sexwale using Malema (Comrade Condom), basically they are all using the people of SA to get money & power, fantastic.

      chilli.stephenson1 - 2012-05-14 10:52

      @Hadebe... Speak English please... id like to know what you are actually saying! Thanks

      Kuno - 2012-05-14 11:49

      Nore will Malema lead you to economic freedom... but keep on dreaming

  • lownabester - 2012-05-13 23:03

    "The erosion was started by the top brass in the ANC, so dont cry now. Its done, Same with the boycotts of paying for services in the Apartheid times, Now its 10000% worse. You started it, now what now??? Stop it, Not a chance.

      Kolobe - 2012-05-14 06:37

      does zweli really believe zuma is the best that mzansi can come up with?lets not fool ourselves we have a fool at the helm

  • dnetili - 2012-05-13 23:31

    dats y i hated politics dey dnt hv truth

  • siyadyosiba - 2012-05-14 00:02

    So KZN does not support Malema. Which other province doesn't? And he is hoping to come back. I feel pity for the young man, he brought all to himself. He allowed himself to be used like a "condom". He now eats with the ants in the trash bin.

      Hadebe - 2012-05-14 00:07

      Haybo! khuzeka phela nawe

      siyadyosiba - 2012-05-14 00:45

      @Hadebe, ngikhuluma iqiniso moss. lo mfana usetyenziswe ngumsholozi ususa uMbeki, wayekwa waphuncuka isimilo. manje bamkhabela ngaphandle xa elwa nabo.

      Msika - 2012-05-14 09:35

      News24 are so racist!! Why remove my comment and still leave Sharon's?

      siyadyosiba - 2012-05-14 10:31

      @Sharon, my apologies. Just that Hadebe commented in Zulu, I had to respond in the same laguage.

      Jacqui - 2012-05-14 10:50

      Sharon, good on you. I can add a few languages too and we will be multilingual. Of course with all this Zulu here we are already being prepared, that if they get the majority we will all have to learn Zulu overnight. Wonder how they want to do business with the outside world?

      Jacqui - 2012-05-14 10:52

      Msika, what the hell is racist about Sharon's post?. Using a language the majority of the people can't understand is rude and childish. Get a life.

  • mandla.shikwambana - 2012-05-14 00:29

    Gudluck kzn bt im tlng u guys u il b disappointed viva juju viva.

      Aya - 2012-05-14 09:28


  • mandla.shikwambana - 2012-05-14 00:29

    Gudluck kzn bt im tlng u guys u il b disappointed viva juju viva.

      indianajohn - 2012-05-14 06:57

      You might get a response if people could understand a word of what you're trying to say. What the hell kind of language is that?

      Sharon - 2012-05-14 07:25

      I too can speak another 3 languages, perhaps I should post in French which is a language spoken by a small tribe in Europe that has a massive inferiority complex.

      Aya - 2012-05-14 09:42

      @Sharon, post what ever u wanna post, in what ever language u like..freedom of speech.

  • mandla.shikwambana - 2012-05-14 00:29

    Gudluck kzn bt im tlng u guys u il b disappointed viva juju viva.

      Sharon - 2012-05-14 07:26

      I too can speak another 3 languages, perhaps I should post in French which is a language spoken by a small tribe in Europe that has a massive inferiority complex.

  • thabane.magcaba - 2012-05-14 00:35

    Most peaople who are supporting malema are from lompompo and not onve have they bn called tribalist but when kzn peaple support umsholozi are tribalist but they were not tribalist when they supported mandela and mbeki.

      twetwisa - 2012-05-14 04:17

      @thabane th 1st election u ppl voted 4 IFP never voted 4 Mandela n u burnt TM's t-shirt,anc kzn only win wf tht majority bcoz of Msholozi so plz dnt fool yoself baba

      thabane.dladla - 2012-05-14 08:40

      Twetwisa your level of think is embarrassing !!who told you that? Its the people like you who dragging ANC back because you are full of tribalism and you don't know anything about ANC and IFP only the poeple who are originated in Kzn who knws the truth !!!stop being dump yeerrrr!*typical*

      Aijaman - 2012-05-14 10:24

      I wish KZN people can stop killing each other

  • Carlo - 2012-05-14 00:51


      wesley.bischoff - 2012-05-14 10:17

      Wow, he seems like an amazing leader, someone that people can look up to and respect. YEAH RIGHT!!! Blatant incitement of hate and murder! I mean really! And then he expects white people to respect him, after singing a song that is about killing us?

  • Monica - 2012-05-14 03:05

    Gudluck kZN bt i'm tlng u 'u be cm shkd viva juju viva.

  • Pule - 2012-05-14 04:18

    KZN has a right to support shower head but We now want an educated president who is not in fraud and corruption,which is why we going to vote for Kgalema in North west and Northern cape...What about you Limpopo?are you voting for Zuma or Kgalema.Pta dominated by pedi n Tswana will support Motlanthe again...Sick a tired of hearing pastor zuma,he can't even read speech in context...He was lucky last time he'll be ashamed come Mangaung.

      Piet - 2012-05-14 06:55

      still voting ANC clearly you can not learn from your mistakes....

      Ngaka - 2012-05-14 08:08

      Limpopo for anyone who is a non-zulu.Down with the tribalists and dictators down!!

      Nigel - 2012-05-14 09:32

      he wasn't lucky, Cosatu & ANCYL voted him in, nothing to do with luck, just incompetence & stupidity, we sit with Zuma because of the fools that voted him in, now the same fools are dictating who is next, they don't care about the poor man, they are all fighting like chickens for power & money. Vote the ANC out, then you will see change, but 18 years later & there is no black opposition, this is your mistake.

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-05-14 10:19

      Yeah, Motlanthe at least seems like he is a respectable, intelligent individual, who has the people's concerns at heart.

      Jacqui - 2012-05-14 10:57

      Mothlante can't make up his mind. Here today, there tomorrow. I don't know. He is a nice man though, I got my Luthuli from him.

  • George - 2012-05-14 05:47

    @sechaba30, I'm confused. Is this not the same malema who said he will kill for zuma? The ANCYL is a confused bunch. Malema an company thought zuma and the ANC leadership where going to be subservient to their tenderpreneur demands.

      Nigel - 2012-05-14 09:33

      lol, they were fools, Malema would have more chance with the DA than with Zuma.

  • Sganja - 2012-05-14 05:50

    Zweli Mkhize is nobody.

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-05-15 08:44

      Oh, so you and him will get along great as you have that in common

  • Carry - 2012-05-14 05:59


      Hadebe - 2012-05-14 06:12

      Cant u c what the da is up to?

      Stewart - 2012-05-14 06:38

      Hadebe that is because you are plain stupid.

      Sam - 2012-05-14 07:17

      Hadebe, you still have a small screen old style TV. When you release that all the corruption by the ANC is limiting your means to upgrade to a flatscreen! Tat is the day I will celebrate

      Nigel - 2012-05-14 09:38

      Hadebe, you look 20, where did you learn to be such a hater

  • david.diego.14 - 2012-05-14 06:00

    MKHIZE the song that u'r complaining about is our struggle song even the late PETA MOKABA he sing it u ZULU'S u hate MALEMA because he dont want our corrupt president ZUMA,do u thnk we dont see what is going on u'r trying to shield u'r ZULU BOY we dont need ZUMA to be the president again to the next term finish

      Nkululeko - 2012-05-14 09:53

      @ David.diego.14, what corruption r u talking about? If u say Zuma is corrupt, what r u talking about, for ur info, ur F*&%$# Malema is the most corrupt idiot in this country. He claims that he is fighting for the poor, but he demolished 3m worth of house to build a 16m worth of house. If he really fights for the poor, why didn't he sell a R3m worth of house and donate that money to the ophans? I think you are as much stupid like your F*&%# brother Juliarse Malema.

  • nkosingiphile.cofu - 2012-05-14 06:00

    The national disciplinary committee of the ANC made pronouncement on comrade malema not the kzn. It should also be noted that people making views critical of kzn were too young in 1994 to understand the then political dynamics of the time in kzn. They do not know that the IFP never won the elections but stole them . We let them get away with it because we wanted peace. You may not know this young people in kzn alone in a decade we lost more than 20 000 people violence unleashed by the nationalist party and the ifp to the ANC members. It is wrong to say people joined the ANC because of Zuma. It is also wrong to presume that because zuma is zulu he get support due to that. We won kzn under comrade Mbeki presidency a Xhosa we were never accused of tribalism by then. Not every person in kzn is a Zulu. I appeal to you stop seeing things through through the tribal eye as some of you are spitting tribal vernom. If you dont want zuma say so without being tribalistic. Comrades solidarity is the power.

      Musawenkosi - 2012-05-14 08:00

      @Nkosingiphile let's carry on to discourage tribalism and racism, if somthing is wrong it must be condemned.

      Nigel - 2012-05-14 09:53

      @ Musawenkosi, tribalism, racism & xenophobia are all basically the same thing, intolerance to people not like yourself, Malema started with Whites, then Coloureds, then Indians, now he is busy with dividing blacks, this is what he does - divide & conquer, which Malema must have cut & pasted from Julius Ceasar, he wants to cause division & steal power, with his co-conspirators Sexwale & Winnie Mandela. Watch out, he is not to be trusted.

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-05-14 10:21

      I agree Musawenkosi

      Xulu.Thulany.Xaba - 2012-05-14 20:19

      Thank you!

  • promise.ozuzu - 2012-05-14 06:50

    Wow..... Malema is too much, just let him face he's life.... He not in your meeting but yet you are killing your self.....

  • Piet - 2012-05-14 06:53

    What happened to "We will die for Zuma"? The ANC has let you down again.

  • Bless Boswell - 2012-05-14 06:53

    The "leadership" has no credibility. Every day another worm come crawling out of the woodwork making it progressively more laughable.

  • Raymond - 2012-05-14 06:57

    This is what the masses want as they are ill-disciplined themselves and want they want ill-disciplined leaders.This country needs a new government as a msatter of urgency.IF YOU INCAPABLE OF DOING THE JOB,DON'T PRETENT THAT YOU CAN DO IT.YOU HAVE FAILED DISMALLY.

  • Mokhoaetsi - 2012-05-14 06:59

    maybe they thnk anc is shaka impire

  • mzukisijola.jose1 - 2012-05-14 07:09

    Ill discipline what is mkhize talking about, where was mkhize when zuma called mr mbeki a dead snake ?mkhize u don't have to fool south africans , the zulus are just a tribalist who don't respect the other people axcept zulus , your province realy divide the anc , this historic movement will never be same again thanx to zuma

      adolframabulana - 2012-05-14 07:21

      Jose1, u ar rite man, but dnt judge the zulus like dat, coz u think u ar helping by speaking the truth, infact by doing dat u ar put south africa in a dagerous position. Sure my man

      Musawenkosi - 2012-05-14 07:27

      @mzukisi, I concure with you 100% Malema was raised by the current leadership of the ANC and no one has ever stood up and condem Malema s utterances, in other words chicken are coming back home to roost. Also we agree that the ANC will never be same, but however I disasgree with you when you attack certain people instead of directing it to the ANC. Let us be very careful brother that when dealing when the issues let's face them head on.

      thabane.dladla - 2012-05-14 08:21

      Suites your self man if you got problem with Zulus its your own baby not ours ...lastly it shows your level of thinking that you paint everyone with th same paint!!!just get a life you idiot.

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-05-14 10:25

      STOP GENERALISING PEOPLE!!!! It is wrong and there is not point. Each and every one of us is different to the next, so we cannot all be put in one box. Let us realise this, that we are all different, yet similar in certain aspects too, and STAND TOGETHER :)

  • Sam - 2012-05-14 07:14

    Seems like the decay has set and starting to separate the gum from the tooth

  • david.motloung.7 - 2012-05-14 07:27

    I'm always worried by comments of senior leaders. Comments by both the Pres Zuma and Cde Zuma are divisive in nature. The is that they are always want to justify the expulsion of cde Malema in every platform, really we must desist from this utterances.

      Mduduzi - 2012-05-14 07:54

      Power 2datand stop making noise

  • Frans - 2012-05-14 07:35


      Jacqui - 2012-05-14 11:01

      Frans, they don't agree with each other. There's hope for us.

  • Sikanyiso - 2012-05-14 07:41

    Congratulations KZN, but bear in mind the coming conference is not about electing a regional leader, but we will be electing a national leader which needs the support of all provinces. The entire Eastern Cape is fully behind Kgalima Montlante for Presidency. Comrades from hear have noted with trepidation the tendency to side line leaders of this province and other provinces in government positions. Eastern Cape is the home of the ANC, people of this region were the major role players in the liberation struggle so any endeavor to phase them out of national politics will not succeed.

      hilton.andile - 2012-05-14 12:06

      kgalema who, the coward?

      Nkululeko - 2012-05-14 14:20

      @ Sikanyiso, u better wake up Papa from dreaming, what you mean if you say Eastern Cape is the home of ANC? Do you mean the Mangaung was in Eastern Cape in 1912? I believe your resources are not reliable. I doubt you are the member of ANC. And again, this is exactly what devides the party, if you gonna look at where the leaders comes from, you are wrong Papa. Leaders are for every ANC members,not not only Eastern Cape. The root, the home of ANC is where the ANC was formed, not what you say. If you say Eastern Cape is the home because people of that region played an important role, what about John Langalibalele Dube from KZN, what about Chief Albert Luthuli? Please stop misleading people. Don't look at the tribe or race.

      WhiteNut - 2012-05-14 14:43

      Let's help this tribalist, out of the 4 lawyers who 'formed' the ANC, 3 were from what is known today KZN i.e Seme, Msimang and Alfred Mangena. None was from your eastern cape to your disappointment! You managed to make me stoop to your level, tribalist

  • tsietsi.koza - 2012-05-14 07:45

    M jst worried abt da ANCYL cause it seems like thy put all thier faith in Comrade Julius Malema nd nw dt he hs been expelled, i sense some quiteness frm da league nd evry Senior Leader of da ANC jst like Dr Zweli Mkhize will hv capitalise on that nd m suprised y dd it took Mkhize so long to realise that some members names need not to b uttered in ANC.

  • Gerald Jordaan - 2012-05-14 07:55

    Someone should compose a song 'MALEMA IS A DOM D**S' !!

  • Cassandra Eileen Olivier - 2012-05-14 08:25

    Well done KZN please compose more songs about Malema

  • Sam - 2012-05-14 08:32


  • Antwahn - 2012-05-14 08:37

    So when is the "Mkhize song" coming out?

  • Wayne - 2012-05-14 08:46

    No Zweli, it is not "disrespect of ANC leadership, party structures and policy decisions that is leading to dysfunctional structures", it is the ANC (and your) insistance on the principle of "Party before country" which results in cadre deployment, which is leading to disfunctional structures!

  • Carry - 2012-05-14 09:31


  • wesley.bischoff - 2012-05-14 09:46

    So now it's the ANCYL fault for the loss of credibility of leaders in the ANC. F**k, they can NEVER take responsibility for their actions, can they? It's always easier to play the blame game.

  • smahlaba - 2012-05-14 10:12

    Why would anyone want to support Juju? It's not tribalism.

  • Aijaman - 2012-05-14 10:17

    IFP has taken over ANC in KZN. We all know how tribalistic they are.

  • Jacqui - 2012-05-14 10:33

    Can you get more stupid then this?.

  • Jacqui - 2012-05-14 10:36

    If you all want to write in Zulu or Xhosa go start your own News 24.

      smahlaba - 2012-05-14 11:27

      luckily there is a Zulu news24.

      yolande.rwaai - 2012-05-14 22:39

      Do you echo the same sentiments to those who write in Afrikaans?

  • smahlaba - 2012-05-14 11:22

    Mandela and Mbheki's presidency were dominated by amaXhosa. Zuma has a bit of a mix.

  • Phillip - 2012-05-14 12:01

    The Zulu monarchy Zuma has spoken He still want to rule SA FROM KZN,ANC is for everybody not Zuma Homeboys only.

  • Phillip - 2012-05-14 12:05

    Look this KZN lineup for Mangaung Sdumo,Blade,Mthethwa,Gigaba,Zuma,Cele this people have been assured the top Post in the ANC top six,important posts.

  • Nigel - 2012-05-14 12:29

    Honestly, if it wasn't for the deep routed evil and criminal element, it would be like watching a kids puppet show. Pathetic.

  • WhiteNut - 2012-05-14 13:15

    Well done ANC KZN! Dr Pixley KaSeme must be very pleased in his grave by the level of discipline you continue to display

  • mochabelamochabela - 2012-05-14 19:21

    Come 2014 if this Buffoon called Zuma is still the pres for ANC I'll definitely not waste my vote. I still can't understand why vote 4 a man who slept his daughter's friend,marries whenever he sees a woman,slept n impregnated his friend's daughter,had a corrupt financial adviser. It only happens in SA n Africa. In the US he wudn't 've made it to a mere ward councillor. Same applies to his cabinet the likes of Mbalula, shiceka who had 19 kids.

  • Andricca - 2012-05-14 20:44

    Bunch of tribalist Zulu warriors

  • Andricca - 2012-05-14 20:49

    Zuma just can't be the best thing that South Africa ever had, after all nobody want to respect him because the man's reputation is dented and embarrassing

  • Sugar - 2012-05-14 21:35

    We blame whites for being racist bt are our hands clean??? NO!!! Zulus want a zulu to rule them nd the same goes to xhosas, pedis the list is endless. Racism wil only die in our next lives...

  • Abram - 2012-05-16 09:17

    Why KZN is the only Province where lobbying for Mangaung leadership is open.

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