News24

Motlanthe: I won't lead by arrangement

2012-12-03 07:48

Johannesburg - Deputy President Kgalema Motlanthe was not interested in leading an organisation where he was elected "by arrangement", he said in a newspaper interview published on Monday.

"I don't want to lead an organisation where I have no sense of what the members think of me - and by arrangment. I would never do that," he told Business Day.

"Once it's interfered with, if I offered them sweeteners or jobs, I would never actually know whether they have confidence in me or not."

Delegates in most provinces have nominated President Jacob Zuma to be elected for a second term at the governing party's national elective conference in Mangaung in December.

Factional discord

However, nomination conferences were plagued by factional discord, with three provinces failing to nominate their preferred candidates for the party's leadership by Friday's deadline.

"The fact that you hear noises from time to time saying, 'you mustn't stand, you mustn't do this' and so on - there is no appetite for elections.

"Elections in an organisation are an instrument for strengthening an organisation, not weakening it - but that's only when it works and people accept it," said Motlanthe.

"At [the SA Communist Party] conference now the central committee consists of 62 members and all nine provinces nominated the same 62, which means there was no need for elections.

"That influence played itself out at the Cosatu [Congress of SA Trade Unions] conference.

"It is that same influence that is going to play itself out in the ANC at Mangaung," said Motlanthe.

Comments
  • hendriek.woede - 2012-12-03 07:55

    What does that suppose to mean? Defeated without a fight?

      fanie.viljoen.73 - 2012-12-03 07:59

      Sounds like it, he would have made such a difference. So few real leaders that don't get power fever when they smell it, Kgalema is one.

      aniken.vader.31 - 2012-12-03 08:28

      I am sorry but his statement that he would NEVER rule by arrangement is totally devoid of TRUTH! What happened when Thabo was removed??? He was placed in the position of president BY ARRANGEMENT! He is just trying to say that he won't go against zuma (his boss) because he is his b1tch and just does not want to experience a tragic political death! He is such a coward!

      mlungisi.botha - 2012-12-03 08:52

      No Hendriek. It means this man wants out coz his backside is sore from sitting on the fence - a very thin fence at that. It's obvious he's been waiting to see what the support was like before saying yay or nay. He's now done his political career in either way. He's lost the chance of remaining Zuma's deputy OR of having a crack at the top job - that's fence sitting for you

      andre.vandeventer.16 - 2012-12-03 09:25

      Motlanthe is not a leader, he is a good follower and supporter at best. He made a big mistake by backing the wrong horse (Julius Malema). By supporting Malema he thankfully proved that he should not lead!

      piet.motsoeneng - 2012-12-03 09:50

      I think his comments are about latest talks of making and arrangement for him to remain the leaderin one position or the other through negotiations. It does not necessarily mean he will decline the nomination. What he is saying he will remain in leadership through a vote not arrangement. For those who suggest he is hypocritic since he bwcame the president of SA through arrangement, I thin he has seen what arrangent does to you so he does not want to repeat that mistake again which is not wrong for him to think like that.

      sylvia.shaw.7 - 2012-12-03 19:14

      Political speak. Smoke and mirrors.

  • sipho.mbuyazi.9 - 2012-12-03 07:56

    The truth is the deputy president has been endorsing the ANCYL unruly youth and as a result he is seen by branches as unsuitable to be part of the forth coming mandate. In any company or organization , a director can be voted out for being seen as in contradiction with the company objectives. Lets see what Mangaung holds . . .

      fanie.viljoen.73 - 2012-12-03 08:00

      Sipho, you are misinformed.

      p.borchard - 2012-12-03 08:10

      Fanie, I think Sipho is actually spot on. I've always thought Mothlanthe is the Great Hope, untill he started supporting Juliaaaaaaaaaaas. How great can you be if you can't see that that twat is a bad apple?

      piet.motsoeneng - 2012-12-03 08:18

      I dont think thats necessarily the whole truth Sipho, but to some extend yes. This is almost the same as pre-Polokwane. Sometimes people dont vote you out because you support this or you dont support that, they would vote for someone who is popular to the masses not that the other is a bad leader or this one is a good leader. I thinl Kgalema's biggest mistake is silence even when its not necessary. Like Ma Mbeki said, at times you just dont know what he stands for which is the problem with some members. I dont support Zuma but I find it difficult to associate myself with someone who is closed book, someone you dont know which direction he is heading to and you have to speculate all the time. Thats his problem in my view.

      dumi.zulu.31 - 2012-12-03 08:25

      I wouldn't say he's supporting them but simply saying you could have dealt with them in a better way.

      boyisile - 2012-12-03 09:49

      I agree with you Dumi.Zulu31. Kgalema has publicly reprimanded the ANCYL and Julius. He sad he believe the ANC could have dealt with them better. Throwing them at the street cannot be the solution. When your son misbehave you dont chase him out the the valtures.

      ronald.stilianou - 2012-12-03 12:01

      Well said Piet

      ronald.stilianou - 2012-12-03 12:13

      @boyisile, let me put it to you in more perspective than that,(and with an African flair). The child did not only misbehave, he tried to pour poison into the drinking water of all the livestock of the village. He managed to kill more than a third of the cows, when asked why he did it he said that the cows must only belong to his family and not to everyone, and besides, we can buy milk from the other villages (no matter the price) So, boyisile , what do you do with this child, knowing that all he wants do do is poison the waterwell?, not only will the cows die from the poison water, but the innocent children and old people that also drink from that poisoned well.

  • chris.gill.9849 - 2012-12-03 08:02

    Who cares what members of the organisation think of you??? You're being asked to lead a country, not just the ANC. The day that they stop about answering to the ANC and worry about answering to the people of SA is the day we'll see this country moving forward.

      piet.motsoeneng - 2012-12-03 08:33

      Unfortunately the ANC has to make it possible for us to make that decision, otherwise we are powerless, maybe because he is on the wrong train. The train that would not take him where he actually belongs, in Union Buildings. This is a similar story to that of Mbeki, a lot of people may like you but first some people will have to decide for them which options they will have. Maybe this means our electoral system needs to be reviewed.

      wenzeslaus.majola - 2012-12-03 09:38

      If you care to know ChrisG29 the ANC is the people of SA and the leader of the ANC as the majority party is the leader of the country. Let me advise you if you want to see a difference in the leadership of the country: join a party that will beat the ANC at the polls and stop telling us about what you want to see happening in the ANC that I can sense you despise at any rate. Hows that for putting some sense into your misguided head!

      boyisile - 2012-12-03 09:55

      He first has to lead the ANC before leading the country. Once Zuma win in Mangaung then DA can start stocking a lot of Champagns for celebration in 2014. A lot of people will not vote for Zuma to lead the country again. Unless if he remains at Lithuli house and send someone to the union building. That could also bring problems because the one at Union building could be a puppet of Lithuli house.

  • JanGrimbeek - 2012-12-03 08:05

    "Once it's interfered with, if I offered them sweeteners or jobs, I would never actually know whether they have confidence in me or not." He's definitely not referring to himself LOL.

  • piet.motsoeneng - 2012-12-03 08:08

    I think Kgalema Motlanthe is right, you can't be a leader of an organisation that clearly has little or no confidence in you. The risk would of course be that you will be a puppet and you will always be reminded how you ended up leading. You will always have to please your 'masters'. So, I say Kgalema should take his chances and accept the nomination for presidency and if he looses atleast he would have gone down with a fight because in any case it looks like Zuma camp is going make sure he is not elected to any position since he is seen as a threat to Zuma's leadership. Kgalema spoke like a true leader there.

      frans.visserdsb - 2012-12-03 08:59

      Piet - I think this is what happened with Zuma. He was brought in by the puppet masters behind the scenes who though he would be easy to manage. The problem is they underestimated his popularity. It should have been so easy - they just help him with the gravy train, and if he proves unruly, they just get rid of him by exposing all his dirty washing... The problem is he still remains amazingly popular despite the dirty washing... and is clinging to power like a barnacle. Now they are looking for another puppet. Ever ask yourself why the real power behind the throne do not come forward? Why no Sexwale, Ramaphosa, Phosa in the run? From my point of view, a leader like Trevor Manuel would save SA... and the ANC. I think the DA is praying for Zuma to be re-elected, most moderate middle class people I know (white , black, coloured, green, pink yellow) are fed up with all this corruption... he may win the battle at Mangaung, but the ANC may then lose the war in 2014...

      piet.motsoeneng - 2012-12-03 09:42

      I agree with you 100%, however and some people support him not because they think he is a good leader but because there is just so much to lose for them if they decide to be against the man who is as popular as Zuma is. We should also remember that to most people politics is a career and no one wants to mess with their livelihood. On the issue of DA counting on 2014, I think its quite a long shot. The problem is the longer the person stays in power the more friends he makes and favours dished out. Eventually you come to a point where he has done so much for so many that most are prepared to die for him because they owe him no because they believe in his leadership. A classic example is what is happening in Free State where Ace Magashule has been the Anc chairperson since the begining of time and it has become almost impossible to removed.

      frans.visserdsb - 2012-12-03 12:39

      Yes, ok, 2014 is a long shot. but hopefully there is a strong opposition in place that can challenge and keep them honest. I for one believe the only time a politician is honest is when he is not in power... so i have no problem with the ANC governing, but have a major problem with them having a massive majority which means they can (and do) get away with anything... And I agree with you that he has built a buffer of cronies that protect him... using Malema as a prime example of what happens when you don't toe the line with JZ was a clever move.

      piet.motsoeneng - 2012-12-03 13:19

      I strongly believe DA has a good chance in 2019 if they are in allience with other opposition parties and on its own they should only think of a realistic chance of dethroning Anc in 2024. The challange with allience is difference in ideologies and power struggles. It will be difficult to keep everything under control if you have for instance people like Lekota, Buthelezi and Holomisa in the same group. Otherwise the DA is doing quite a good job of being an opposition in parliament. The biggest problem is this outright majority, I dont think its good for democracy.

      frans.visserdsb - 2012-12-03 13:50

      Piet - agreed - power corrupts... and absolute power corrupts absolutely. The ANC seems to have become a party who no longer cares about people, and is interested in power for the sake of power. They were once a party for the people,but now it seems every petty politician is only interested in feathering his (or her) own nest, and doné worry about the kids not having books at schools... I think someone like Trevor Manuel would be great for SA - and the ANC - a leader who has global admiration and respect. However, he would never become president. Which is a pity.

      frans.visserdsb - 2012-12-03 13:55

      Furthermore, despite the whistling in the dark, it seems there are major cracks showing in the tri-partite alliance. Cosatu is nt happy about the e-tolling and also have questions about the information bill. And Vavi is very outspoken about corruption... The SACP seems to be quiet. I honestly believe that Zuma will cause a major rift in the ANC along tribal lines. or between the ANC/Cosatu.

      piet.motsoeneng - 2012-12-03 15:57

      I thinl ANC has destroyed its rich heritage of being a party that was viewed as a symbol of lebartion of the majority(blacks), it is now simply a money making scheme like yoj suggested. Trevor and Pravain have proved that they are credible and two of the most intelligent leaders in this country, the only problem with them is that their qualities are organisational and administrative which is not always appealing to th majority who are not necessarily that informed in that front. So, fo anyone to lead Anc you have to prove your political credibility which appeals to the majority. The other problem with them is the colour of their skin, whether we like it or not SA politics are colour concious. We will never see anyone in the near future who is not black leading Anc. So, for them to have any hope of going higher ghan they are at the moment, they need to be out of Anc, as long as they are there, they are going nowhere. Majority of South Africans will take quite some time to come to a point where they view politics hollistically not only the political acumen of an individual, even though I still dont understand why a person like Zuma is so popular to the masses because he has none of the things I mentioned above.

      frans.visserdsb - 2012-12-04 07:19

      Piet, I tink our major problem is education... If it was up to me, I would make Trevor President with the primary goal to grow the economy, and put Prof Jansen (from Free State Uni)in charge of education... I have huge respect for that man.

      piet.motsoeneng - 2012-12-04 08:00

      You are absolutely correct Frans,You see, the biggest problem with ANC that landed us where we are today is the political cadre deployment. You just never know why people like Prof Jansen, Br Mamphele Ramphela are not occupying any significant positions in government,education specifically. It also seems to me Trevor was put in planning position on purpose since the position is a more of behind the scenes position. When you are JZ you dont want intellctuals like Trevor, Pallo Jordan, Jansen, Mamphele and the likes to occupy thkind of in your face positions because they might just draw attention of ordinary people on the streets and expose just how much of an empty head you are. So, you make sure they stay on the backstage. With the recnt release of ANA results that continue to wxposjust how bad our education system is you need to bring people like Jansen on board if you are serious about addressing education. You'll never understand why Angie is minister of education, even worse you have just another empty minded communist Blade leading higher education. Jasen is one person who makes most sense each time he speaks about education. In fact when I think about our education system, I get depressed, its just one big mess that politicians dont think is worth all their attention.

  • marilyn.docherty.9 - 2012-12-03 08:09

    Kgalema is sitting on the fence - I think he has lost his ticket for the 'Gravy Train'!

  • Khayoh Mfiswah - 2012-12-03 08:09

    Lol Zuma already defeated Kgalema Mothlante without a fight. lelilizwe elikaMsholozi

  • Bishop Simon Ntlemo - 2012-12-03 08:11

    I think there is some truth in you Sir. Even if you're not elected, note that truth is substituted for lies in the modern political framework but at the end truth wil prevail. Amen

  • geoffjleach - 2012-12-03 08:12

    Maybe you need to............until we have a credible leader, you did it for Mbeki........ A few seconds ago · Like

  • oliver.lankes.3 - 2012-12-03 08:19

    When they say 'I would never do that' it actually means that they would love to do that. Remember when Zoomer said 'I only want to serve one Term'

  • nhlapop - 2012-12-03 08:19

    He doesnt know where he stand.

  • lulama - 2012-12-03 08:20

    Typical Motlanthe making no sense as usual.

  • david.khasebe - 2012-12-03 08:21

    Motlanthe is no better than Zuma - remember he was a forgettable Pres for a year from 2008? He treads too carefully at a time leadership is required. I know some will say a year is too short to demonstrate qualities, it is not! The question is whether the black majority's national support will exceed 50% in 2014? Are they going to punish JZ or ask for more of same?

  • MatomeAnchor - 2012-12-03 08:22

    Motlanthe's comments in my opinion characterize a hesitant leader. One may conclude that he is not going to stand against "showerhead"

  • Daniel Mah - 2012-12-03 08:22

    subtle way of admitting that without promising some goodies to the comrades better forget about being elected

      ntebu.mthi - 2012-12-03 10:59

      Motlanthe and Zuma have been in the ANC since 1994 and therefore they both know what makes delegates tick... which is in line with the kwaito song which goes like "...fak'imal'uzobona". Meaning, show me the money. All comrades know that there is a culture of brown envelopes and black plastic bags during an elective conference - so whoever has be best packages of jobs, tenders, protection against corrupt tendencies is the Elective Conference Winner. That's how it works in the ANC.

  • mashikwane.sempane - 2012-12-03 08:23

    what a waste of my time reading this.Zuma is going in for the second term.Its about time everyone dealt with it.he's our president and hes here to stay...

      Lucky - 2012-12-03 08:31

      heaven help us. he is not going to!

  • phuti.hlabane - 2012-12-03 08:24

    The country does not need Zuma as a president,he has so many scandals.Motlanthe is not corrupt.

      Mazwi Biyase - 2012-12-03 08:44

      he doesn't have balls either.

      ntebu.mthi - 2012-12-03 11:05

      Phuti that's not an issue. This country functions because of corruption. If the corruption that happens between big business and government would ever be reported, the majority will get a heart attack. This is besides the corruption that happens within ANC comrades in government. Therefore the country's wheelers and dealers need Zuma to continue with the corruption unabated and in turn Zuma needs the presidency to protect him going to court for his corruption charges whilst the state assists him to maintain his bulging family. Which Mangaung delegate will support Motlanthe if they know there is no rewards for such?

      hendriek.woede - 2012-12-03 12:05

      Are you sure he's not corrupt? really sure?

      mandla.dlamini.524 - 2012-12-03 12:23

      quite ridiculous statement in this country we said we are democratical, is it democratical to speak on our behalf, there are opposition parties in parliament, there is an judiciary system, if you spaek about allegation, setup agenda of capitalist most corrupt people in the world surely as well in the heaven, blood suckers who cushion themserlves with the constitution, they outside down the court challenging the president just because the president is the only man who show calibre on ensuring the work hand in hand with the alliance, so those who are the agences of foreign forces who fight against the socialist, planted many evils to sabotage the struggle of our freedom in many forms, but it was great to see western cape farm workers, their blood was sucked for many years, exploitation of years no one ever have that political will to intervene there and to act. aluta the struggle is continuing, long live jacob zuma long live.

  • blessed.gilman1 - 2012-12-03 08:25

    So what does he imply when he says , if I offered them sweeteners or jobs? For sure he doesn't deserve the top post just like MaMbeki said he has little confidence.

      Malusi Zikhali - 2012-12-03 08:37

      the masses are against him his just been realistic by wt his doing!!! leading the South africa is list of his worries!!!

  • sthembiso.jali.50 - 2012-12-03 08:28

    There goes everything !

  • lucas.chingonzo - 2012-12-03 08:28

    Useless man

  • Lucky - 2012-12-03 08:30

    stand on principle KM, i agree with you. however, how do you get to a point where that will happen? the anc must lose its majority and introduce citizen electing candidates and ultimately the prez. cannot for the life of me understand the blind loyalty to an out-and-out thief! now his brothers homes were improved as port of the compound rip-off, the man has no morals, shame or dignity and yet these slaves vote him in to crush them until 2019!! can you imagine what a mess we will be in given another 7 years of zoompipe!!

  • khumo.lebone - 2012-12-03 08:31

    Once in a while someone needs a good pair and this man doesn't have it. When SA goes down the drain as it would under the Zuma leadership, he can't come back and comment on anything as he was given the opportunity to reverse the tide but didn't take it.

  • morrisn2 - 2012-12-03 08:31

    Its just shows that Kgalema is a man of principle, hes not easily swayed by ppl who wanna make him a stooge, he knws what he stands for and its obvious that some ppl wana use him as a tool 2 fight Zuma, and what will happen after if he loses? U cn guess!

  • denepaul - 2012-12-03 08:32

    We need a leader with the strength to stand up to those who are pillaging and looting this country and this guy obviously hasn't got the balls to do this. He seems to be content to stay in the shadows. Well if that is the case what is he doing in politics and unless he is part of the bunch of crooks that are supposed to leading this country. Such a pity - I had hoped he would pose a serious threat to Zuma and his "wild bunch"

  • zakhele.mashazi - 2012-12-03 08:36

    Hmmm yep I like wat Kgalema is sayin coz some people re jst wana use him only they fight their own war against zuma let me tell u b4 u jajarag zuma zuma all the way

      thulanit - 2012-12-04 01:55

      I have been and still saying Motlanthe is the weakest link, he can not stand Hellen Zille, Lekota and Holomisa, now he is throwing a towel before he even get to the ring !!! What if he was electeted as the President of this country, would he stand firm against challenges ???????

  • Nhlanhla Zondi - 2012-12-03 08:37

    Cde Mothlante don't try and act all innocent here cause we know that the people who are campaigning for you use the same strategies as Zuma so fight your battles quietly and dont try and play the media and us

  • nthato.thema1 - 2012-12-03 08:37

    “Elections are suppozed to strengthen the organisation not weaken it” he actually puts his point across as the ideal president,but majority of the country is vouching for a charismatic leader - we in this cause of him clearly we don't need him.

  • pelmane.mulongo - 2012-12-03 08:37

    Mothlante...

  • kenny.dhlamini - 2012-12-03 08:41

    well said DP,its not about an individual concern or influence of power hungry ppl but a concrete stability of the african national congress an its ppl is paramountly important not the tenderpreneurs individuals .''you can not arrange for me to be your president so that you can achieve the platinum and diamond found underneath the Limpopo province.ungijwayela kabi wena Malema nawe wena Mashatile'' DP Motlanthe said.kikiki.. very brave Deputy Pres.

  • sCruu - 2012-12-03 08:44

    This clearly means he's not gonna stand for the party presidency despite nomination.

  • sipho.mbuyazi.9 - 2012-12-03 08:45

    Zuma is here to stay , the DA needs to make peace with that. They must also expect him in the AU in future. We will not vote for the National Party ... Oops I meant DA . If the vice president were to win as president ... you white people that always attack Zuma and the current ANC has a lot to worry about . Malema will be back in the ANC , the taking of land without compensation will be eminent , your courts will not help you. Mines will be nationalized and the companies were you don't wanna promotes black people .. we be addressed by force. Sometimes you need to open your eyes and look beyond . . .

  • matthews.magodiela - 2012-12-03 08:47

    Mothlanthe is a visionary leader who refuses to be used by those who operate at the backyard. Obviously it shows that there were terms and conditions given to him if he become the president. This is what happened with Zuma hence he is getting criticisms from all his former allies who supported him from Limpopo. He couldn't fulfill all conditions for those who supported him hence they turned against him. We need principled leaders like Mothlanthe in our country and its pity we are still stacked with the current leadership that promote corruption, cadre deployment while undermining skilled and educated candidates and promoting uniteral decisions while undermining majority rule. Hope Cyril will stabilise the situation.

      siyabonga.phungula1 - 2012-12-03 08:51

      'undermining majority rule' Matthews its the majority that voted for them.

  • Tee Crush - 2012-12-03 08:48

    don't use Kgalema,,he is not a fool,the fact that the hooligans wants him,we rather sacrifice with Gedley'hlekisa, viva African Natoinal Congress viva,sohlangana naye eMangaung uMsholozi madoda!

  • jacob.khoza.39 - 2012-12-03 08:50

    Sorry money comrade(HYENAS),We have a clear mandate 4 mangaung>jacob zuma 4 second term>, one wrong move by cde kgalema.he is out.he must not be used by people pushng their own selfish interest.

  • maokeng.mankge - 2012-12-03 08:50

    Your statement is loud n clear you cannot buy ppl with sweets n jobs to keep on electing you with ur incompetence,lack of leadership n corruption..Zuma is corrupt its a fact

      lunga.mazeka.77 - 2012-12-03 09:06

      Zuma has so much money that he can buy for the whole country to support him!!! Think again, the man is charismatic, that's all , he is loved just for who he is, down to earth and humble. More badmouthing Zuma, more votes for him

      maokeng.mankge - 2012-12-03 09:33

      Joke..Zuma got money through fraudulent activities yes he can buy d country with tax payers money not money he worked for..come 2014 ANC will retain 40seats in Parliament we not gonna vote for corruption

      maokeng.mankge - 2012-12-03 09:51

      Zuma can't even build RDP`s for his Nkandla neighbors who sleep in mud houses,how on earth do you support an ignorant criminal who only cares about himself..Let him 1st build mansions 4 his Nkandla resident.

  • blessed.gilman1 - 2012-12-03 08:51

    I wonder if Juju is going to call the DP a compromised sellout! Traitor! And Counter- Revolutionary!...*thinking out loud

  • jabumokoena.c.7 - 2012-12-03 08:51

    True leaders don't. You are in the wrong party boss.

  • siphoza.zandela - 2012-12-03 08:54

    Mr Motlanthe, if you know what is good for you, then dump the ANC and come join the DA, that will send shock waves through the corrupt, greedy, self enriching ANC. You are not that kind of man, your are more descent and better then the ANC. Come join the DA, they will take you in with open arms.

      siyabonga.phungula1 - 2012-12-03 08:59

      how can they help montlante when they cannot help themselves?

  • siphoza.zandela - 2012-12-03 08:55

    Our beloved Helen Zille will Welcome you. You are educated and have a brain. The ANC is for the uneducated and the brainless..We call the Zombies.

  • khokhiejustin.dubazana - 2012-12-03 08:57

    is this a joke this guy is a coward,he took over from Thabo mbeki as a stand in president of which was arranged

      johnny.august.31 - 2012-12-04 01:50

      DONT BE DUMB KHOKHIE HE WAS DOING IT FOR THE COUNTRY NOT FOR THE ANC

  • luzukotosh - 2012-12-03 08:59

    you are a coward

  • georgebrightons - 2012-12-03 08:59

    Congragulations comrade Jacob Zuma. This implies President has won unchallenged. The challenge will be the deputy president of the ANC where Kgalema Montlhantle, Cyril Ramaphosa, Baleka Mbete, Matthews Phosa and Tokyo Sexwale will be contesting. We urge the President to pull up his socks and deliver by taking the Party where it's supposed to be. Never ever that the ANC will be infiltrated by hooligans for their own benefit.

  • yanga.tamela - 2012-12-03 09:02

    Cdre was just mshini kaZuma (tool) to oust our President Thabo Mbeki. U are nothing but just a toilet paper.

  • haroldcecil - 2012-12-03 09:07

    Mxm Kgalema is scared of Zuma.U were a aranged president when u took over from Mbeki u could'nt say these things that time.Why u dnt jst come out and say that u scared 2 take on showerhead

  • muke.matshaba - 2012-12-03 09:09

    Malema is tormented by this suprising two term elect of Zuma where ever he is,he has come to realise that the charges are as serious s they stand.Its a final nail to fatboys coffin.

  • more.pido - 2012-12-03 09:11

    kgalema h iz nt a pig

  • elkita.robbertse.96 - 2012-12-03 09:15

    The ANC:the corrupt,the bad and the ugly

  • sipho.mbuyazi.9 - 2012-12-03 09:16

    One cannot say Motlante is a victim of Hooligans , he is part of the hooligans and endorses them ... however he is ensuring he is not directly coming out clean because he is afraid of being kicked out. Motlante has not said no to whatever the youth league is proposing , he says they must be engaged. He has come out and said it was wrong to fire Juju . . . The Youth League wanted Zuma to be a pone and they failed as he is not a yes man.

  • tshepo.g.kutumela - 2012-12-03 09:17

    is this not how presidents are elected in the anc, by arrangement? seems to me that mr. motlhanthe is finding fault with the internal electoral proceses of the ruling party.

  • sello.mabele - 2012-12-03 09:22

    U show that ordinary ppl need selfless leader not sum1 who gives benefit for his suppoters and tolerate corruption for followers. Atleast u saw it and not manuplated by it.