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Motlanthe is the future, ANCYL says

2012-12-13 22:25

Johannesburg - The ANC Youth League said on Thursday it was excited that Deputy President Kgalema Motlanthe accepted a nomination to stand for election as ANC president

Motlanthe's spokesperson Thabo Masebe earlier confirmed the news, saying: "The deputy president was informed by the electoral commission of the ANC that he was nominated for three positions - president, deputy president, and additional member [of the national executive committee].

"He informed the electoral commission that he would be accepting those nominations," said Masebe.

The ANCYL said Motlanthe was a "fearless leader who refused to be intimidated and stood by ANC principles" and is "indeed the future of the ANC and the future of South Africa".

"Unlike many members and even leaders who continue to erode the founding values and traditions of the ANC by going out to campaign for themselves, comrade Kgalema has reaffirmed the notion that leadership of the ANC is earned through service."

The ANCYL urged party members to stand their ground in the face of tough opposition, saying its decision to lobby for Motlanthe was the right one.

"In Mangaung, victory is certain. The ANC shall regain its integrity and the overwhelming confidence of the people through its conduct and the decisions it takes," it said.

In a news briefing on Thursday, the ANC declined to release the names of those who had accepted nominations ahead of the Mangaung elective conference which starts on Sunday.


Comments
  • crracker.crackerr - 2012-12-13 22:31

    Jacob Zuma will stay at the helm. Julius Malema and his Nostras will go to jail.

      nico.maponya - 2012-12-13 22:38

      Spoken like a real dolt!...you must from KZN.Open your eyes brother

      fort.horseman.7 - 2012-12-13 23:09

      Choosing a President should not be like a chess game,for ulterior motives,and securing positions for buddies nor for any other speculative or non tangible reasons.It should be purely based on the principles of that individuals capability to serve the interests of his country and people before himself,at whatever the cost.And theres no room for error on this occasion!! n24 :)

      lownabester - 2012-12-13 23:10

      Zuma and Motlanthe, both are not to be trusted. From the fying pan into the fire.

      salee.sithwell - 2012-12-14 00:11

      fort.horseman.7 - that's a really naive statement. That kind of world exists only in dreamland. Anyway, Jacob Zuma must go!

      lsfreak - 2012-12-14 02:01

      Of cause the Deputy Prez would accept, he know's that if he doesn't get a top stop he's off the gravy train since he and Zipper don't get along...

      morne.demeillon - 2012-12-14 04:09

      I have to agree with Lowna....Motlanthe backed JM, who is a criminal by degree and for the current ANCYL paralyzed body statements, well i say no more.

      chaapo.sithole - 2012-12-14 04:11

      The greed of these guys! He is no better than Zuma. Running for three positions! If he is he has the courage of his convictions, why not run for one and leave it to the rest to the others to contest? Methings this is just a show to give the illusion of democracy but he is also ensuring his political survival by running ffor all three so that he at least gets one of these postings. This the DP hedging his bets by doing the classic running with the hare and hunting with the hounds to ensure his continued presence at the trough. If anyone thought he was any better, now you have your proof of what kind of a man he really is.

      chaapo.sithole - 2012-12-14 04:13

      By the way - why not have an edit function on this forum? Lots of others have!

      roy.wadhams.1 - 2012-12-14 06:54

      And IF he does the country will stay corrupted because all those who vote for him are crooks,thieves and they must keep him in power so that they can carry on as before

      noeln.petzer - 2012-12-14 08:59

      I hope you are wrong ... but you are probably right.

  • fort.horseman.7 - 2012-12-13 22:38

    A well composed and dignified man.

      sandra.j.rennie - 2012-12-13 23:03

      Julius said the same about Zuma if you can all remember !!!!

      fort.horseman.7 - 2012-12-13 23:18

      Sandra no offense,but why so much emphasis on Julius,he is just like anyone who has a right to make an opinion.We need to stop the paranoia and vilification of people because its counter productive,and im guilty myself.:)

      Erna - 2012-12-13 23:42

      Unfortunately the rest of the anc don't possess these traits.

  • sally.lewitt - 2012-12-13 22:43

    He has his head screwed on right.. Let's hope for the best in the upheaval SA finds itself!

  • andy.mku.9 - 2012-12-13 22:47

    kgalema motlanthe will defeat showerman

  • goodguy.buthelezi - 2012-12-13 22:56

    If Mothlante wins I will vote ANC. if he dosent id rather donate my vote to Azapo, PAC or UDM

      Stefan Erasmus - 2012-12-13 22:58

      Try the DA!!!!!!

      osmaseko - 2012-12-14 07:58

      Viva Azapo viva

      koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2012-12-14 08:12

      Me personally, I’m voting for the first Indian or colored party on the ballad list. Let them have a go. If that don’t work I’m voting for the Chinese. That pretty much sums up South African politics and democracy here and that is pretty much how much influence I have over it…. pretty much nothing.... Viva country house ice cream. Viva Magnum mini’s. Viva!

  • elewies - 2012-12-13 23:00

    He might still win though. Remember the last ANC freak show?

  • riaanvdlinde - 2012-12-13 23:10

    Im confused, are they not doing the same thing now to Zuma that they did to Mbeki back then? Seems to me like its becoming a norm.

      mark.corrigan.3910 - 2012-12-14 09:47

      I wouldn't "lol" if my prime candidate for presidency was Jacob Zuma. That is a very definite FAIL for you and your people.

  • chris.summers.3954 - 2012-12-13 23:11

    At least he hasn't stolen hundreds of millions of randelas from the taxpayers as far as we know. This alone is enough to endorse him for chief thief of the ANC for now I guess.

      beverly.young3 - 2012-12-14 05:39

      I am pasting here a previous post, seems so relevant....(Oxford word of the year) "omnishambles. situation that has been comprehensively mismanaged, characterized by a string of blunders and miscalculations" We might well take this further.........Zumishambles? ah well only a few days to go ne?

      koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2012-12-14 07:46

      @Chris. I think it would be foolish to base a vote on that. If there is one thing I can guarantee you from the president right down to municipal managers and mayors: When their butts hit those big seats it’s not a question of “If” but a question of “When” and “How much” and I will put that in writing for you.

  • mashome.nicholas - 2012-12-13 23:13

    I go with a man with dignity, a wel respectd man MOTLANTHE

      beverly.young3 - 2012-12-14 08:51

      Creful, he might too invest in leopard skin skirts........

  • victor.mabule - 2012-12-13 23:36

    Viva Cde Motlanthe Viva if we come victorious in Mangaung lots of cdes will be put behind bars where they belong self enrichment will be a thing of the past the struggle goes on kill us if u want we will always emerge victorious remember love conquers hate If you know what I am saying

  • mthetheleli.ntshobololo.1 - 2012-12-13 23:45

    NOW THE BIG QUESTION," WHO IS GOING TO BE RECALLED AFTER MANGAUNG??????????

      Sabelo Nathie Zulu - 2012-12-13 23:51

      No one Coz Zuma will still be the boss come the 21th of Dec

      heinrich.etsebeth - 2012-12-14 08:20

      @Sabelo: Well since there is no such thing as 21th it is safe to say that Zuma does not have a chance in hell ;)

      mark.corrigan.3910 - 2012-12-14 09:47

      21th! Yes, bow before your baas, slave! Obey Zuma!

  • Mbuyi Mabuya Maphalala - 2012-12-13 23:48

    Who was the spoke person of the ANCYL, normally they would mention who that person is. Are they afraid that they might be casted out of their positions if they divulge their names? JUST ASKING!!

      thembi.khumalo.73744 - 2012-12-14 05:49

      very good point

  • matthews.bantsijang - 2012-12-14 00:06

    Good... nominated for president, deputy president, and additional member [of the national executive committee]....

  • sphamandla.s.ntshangase - 2012-12-14 01:08

    ANCYL celebrate early cause are de one who said they choose motlante for president while nomination process was not open but nw they c dat zuma iz leading in my province ANCYL wil send just 45 deligates whch mean can make any different ZUMA wil win

  • sphamandla.s.ntshangase - 2012-12-14 01:11

    ZUMA I thnk is going to b a last man standing motlante will be a former deputy president of SA

      Mbuso Siera - 2012-12-14 01:27

      And again Motlanthe's top six support the former ANCYL suspended president.......The ANCYL want Motlanthe because they believe he will bring back their president........possibilities r should Motlanthe win....ANCYL will control Motlanthe's top six....they don't have back bones...South Africa might have it self having the former ANCYL running for presidency in the near future.....

  • Mbuso Siera - 2012-12-14 01:33

    If Motlanthe wins....the suspended ANCYL president rises back....nd possibilities he will want to be president of this country....it happened in Mozambique....the current President was a trouble some child nd he rose to power....

      cape.gtown.1 - 2012-12-14 02:34

      You automatically associate Julius with President Motlanthe because the ANCYL support him; I don't know much about the man to be honest but the way that he has held him self in the last couple of months has been inspiring to see; a honest and old school approach not too dissimilar from our own hero, Madiba!

  • sanzasonny - 2012-12-14 02:30

    Motlanthe iis too weak. He was once insulted by the ANCYL who said he thought of himself as a paragon of ANC politics. He serves with Zuma in the top structures of the movement. He should have resigned as Deputy Pres of the Republic a long time ago if he thought Zuma was messing up. His relationship with the uncouth, vile, ill-disciplined section of the ANCYL makes him look like a real crook.

  • marc.vaneldonk - 2012-12-14 02:53

    Why is there such a focus on Mangaung or, as the founders of the modern city call it, Bloemfontein ?? Why is it, that the ANC rents places in Bloemfontein for their convention, and do not pay there bills. ( see news a couple of days ago. The owners of the establishments are white by the way ). Why is it, that a small group of ANC members waist 140.000 Rand at the Capetown fishmarket during the 2008 elections, on booze and food. ( a truck pulls up at the fire-stairs, with the most expensive liqueur you can find ) Why is it, that a very good friend of Nelson Mandela and former freedom fighter ( Thomas ) told me at the Southern Sun Hotel in Bloemfontein, that they are going to destroy the last white stronghold in South Africa ??? In Europe and Germany, it took 30 years, to see Germans as Germans. Not as Nazi's. But, then, we were talking about genocide! Freeing the black people from Apartheid was a struggle, not genocide. Allmost 20 years ago, and in no way to be compared to what happened in WW2. Let it rest, and build a society together, so all can benefit from it. I hope the new ANC leader will understand, and will keep his backbone straight against all the hypocrites.

  • mikesakiosib1 - 2012-12-14 03:18

    Nnn, theres no ancyl ,is deed already, nd mst b disbunded

  • leko.dada1 - 2012-12-14 03:35

    I was made for loving ANC by youth league's lateral thinking, i took ANCYL into my confidence. over the years ; we had to canvass for ANC , voting for ANC willingly and without constraint or expectation of rewards our vote for ANC has been always based on reason - yes , race does make smaller part of the set... and i cannot deliver a false statement claiming i'm color blind . I'm thinking again - we 've been rewarding freedom fighters (enough), since 1994 ANC has done a lot yet never fulfilled any promises made on their election manifestos . always falling-short . the real change is in ANC (itself), exhibiting self-serving purpose and a vote for Zuma in Mangaung will constitute such a signal. I wish to see LOVE for ANC gain victory either Motlanthe become the face of the ANC or youth league took a strong stand 'separating' with mother body to serve ANC punishment in 2014 national polls .NONE will happen of the two . If not , what future lies ahead if the ANC titanium core is leaking ? Surely; at some point ANC will be the biggest opposition party in coalision with DA . I'M CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSED-OFF!

      Wikus Erasmus - 2012-12-14 05:24

      I almost though you were going to start a KISS song for a moment there... an let us know when the ANC has plugged its Titanium core and stopped the leak...

      koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2012-12-14 07:49

      @Leko: Ever read the history of Zim?

  • makgesa.joseph - 2012-12-14 04:10

    Itz about time n how I so hope they push Zuma 2 resign he has passed his sell by date 2 MOtlanthe u've got a tough task ahead but in u I believe

  • abner.malema - 2012-12-14 04:47

    We can't keep corrupt leaders for long, we need disciplined cadres who will restore the dignity of the ANC, not those who keep on accumulating one problem one another and Kgalema has proven to be uncorrupt, morally matured

      koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2012-12-14 07:59

      A cadre by definition is one of an indoctrinated whole. In other words and in the African context a cadre is a non-independent, non-freethinking puppet of the collective. This is one of our biggest problems. This cadre when put on a stage is like a little child in a sweets shop grabbing everything and stuffing sweets everywhere not thinking of the consequences or others or even tomorrow. Now Mbeki knew that first you need to attract investment, build companies then economic growth will follow and over time the economics of this country will improve. Now Zuma promised immediate gratification that cannot be achieved. Kgalema the right man? Not proven and I don’t think he is a free thinker or has the economic background like others in the cANCer. In this case I think better the devil you know even if it turns my stomach. At least we know Zuma will steal and make more babies and take a few more wives. Don’t think anyone knows what Kgalema will do.

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-12-14 08:38

      Who is not corrupt in the ANC?

  • parrot.mashau - 2012-12-14 04:58

    Motlante ndi vhu machelo ha ANC NA SHANGO LA SOUTH AFRICA

      ekhosa1 - 2012-12-14 05:48

      I agree with u my brother, he is the man of integrity and vision.

  • patrick.mahungela - 2012-12-14 05:26

    Malema u tsakile kutwa mhaka leyi,hambi leswi tichasi ta motlhate to humelela tinga titsongo,let's wait and see what comeout of mangaung

  • kgaditsi.tjebane - 2012-12-14 05:27

    I fear the boogey man will retain his position,cause zulus are going to cling on to the presidency.

      moxolisi - 2012-12-14 05:49

      Where does tribalism fits in @ the Mangaung ? I will be happy if you reply politely

      mohau.chabeli.9 - 2012-12-14 06:11

      Dnt b a tribalist. This is a leadership contest. I suppose all those provinces

      boulvy.selala - 2012-12-14 06:18

      @Moxolisi,there is only one good reason as to why KZN n MP is backing Zuma..Typical Zulus..They actually blv South Africa is still a kingdom

      madiba.lesiba - 2012-12-14 06:49

      If da zulus cling on to da presidency why not mapedi cling to Motlanthe?zulus are prepared to fight for zuma who failed to suply limpopo children with textbooks @ schools but who builds himself a private town using our taxes.zulus c nohing wrong with dat.

      nic.nomicos.3 - 2012-12-14 07:31

      Klingons ???

      noeln.petzer - 2012-12-14 09:08

      Kgaditsi ... is there another Mfecane coming? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mfecane

  • rlong1952 - 2012-12-14 05:38

    They said that about Zuma too, bunch of uneducated morons. Not that I support Zuma, but just to illustrate they just go with the flavour of the day.

      manqoba.zulu.54 - 2012-12-14 06:57

      You will be amazed that in the history of your family, you will never match the education these people have, that's why you must not try to insult people as it always backfire,......just a question, what should we do with our leaders who have educated themselves and allowed the ANC to educate them as your apartheid government refuse them that opportunity? Should we really listen to you and grant you your wish(verwoord) and say they are good enough to be garden boys yet we know that they excelled during exile, they were in charge of important operations and intelligence, they taught them selves english and how to read so they can learn politics, I think I have more respect for a person like that then the one that had everything and just made it, and his definition of education is merely a stupid diploma in administration etc

      nic.nomicos.3 - 2012-12-14 07:27

      They were in charge of important operations and itelligence....oh boy!!!

      manqoba.zulu.54 - 2012-12-14 07:40

      @ nic the only way for the ANC at the time to be able to still mobilise and implements its programmes even though the leaders we're in exile was to know exactly where the bastards we're and what they were planing, and intelligence was used for this purposes, also that's why it managed to plant bombs and get comrades in the country to do that,so cos you are indoctrinated to believe that ANC leadership is a bunch of idiots, ANC will always surprise you

  • owen.mayuni - 2012-12-14 05:48

    Even a blind man can see that ZUMA will win

      edwardmosehla - 2012-12-14 05:56

      zuma has lot of work 2 d cz h stl de presidnd of south africa. viva zuma vivaaaa.....

      nic.nomicos.3 - 2012-12-14 07:20

      So Edward, when is he going to start?..

      owen.mayuni - 2012-12-14 10:22

      He is just continuing the good job

      owen.mayuni - 2012-12-14 10:22

      He is just continuing the good job

  • wendetutubalang.wende - 2012-12-14 05:49

    He might be the future but not now

  • Modikoe.Elias.Ramongana - 2012-12-14 05:50

    Ppl are just talking 4 the sake of it,is there any future that is quite(silent).The promising future u can c it coming,in Kgalema I c a drop of water in a desert.

  • ryan.sthole - 2012-12-14 05:52

    The truth is this is real life Motlante cannot be the future. Ofcourse things will get better for some favourably to those close to him and unfortunately to us we still face a doomed future. For the reasons that we are ignorant,unskilled,lazy.education is the future

      edwardmosehla - 2012-12-14 06:07

      am wth u cz those pipl tnk 4 dem slf's nt 4 us.

  • pjbadenhorst - 2012-12-14 05:56

    When the ANCYL backs someone or something it is a pretty good indication that whatever it is will just make things worse for everyone.

      sphamandla.s.ntshangase - 2012-12-14 06:05

      Dats 100% truth

  • Madimetsa Mashishi - 2012-12-14 05:58

    Mr motlanthe already won forward with motlanthe nd ANCYL,Lmpp,Nw nd GP forward

  • piero.mendace.5 - 2012-12-14 05:58

    Have we not hard this before. Are you" shore" this time?.

  • Bongeka - 2012-12-14 06:42

    Mbeki was the future, and what did you do to him? Sent him packing and we were all told that Nkandla guy is a capable candidate to move the country forward. Nkandla guy's first term is not even over and now you're telling us that he's no good but his deputy is. I don't know what to believe now.

      manqoba.zulu.54 - 2012-12-14 07:01

      And according to you what is the way forward Bongeka: surely you a not one of those who makes a lot of noise and get thousands thumbs up yet make no suggestions:

      Malose-Nyatlo - 2012-12-14 07:54

      Exactly Bongeka. Not so long ago the same praises were sung about Zuma by the same delinquent characters called the ANCYL. Many in this country, including those outside the ANC would prefer Kgalema to take the baton from Zuma, but alas, Kgalema sat on the sidelines and watched the match. Zuma played the ball, he promised all and sundry that he would tackle moral decay, allow debate on the death penalty, etc. What about Kgalema? Nada. If anything he was often seen with Julius Malema and friends at gatherings aimed at frustrating the aims of ANC. Kgalema would be lucky to retain his current position come Mangaung. Mma Mbeki senior is right about him.

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-12-14 08:45

      Ndabezitha, the way forward is to remove the idiot from Nkandla, and all the old topies from leadership. They are stuck in the apartheid and struggle mould even though we are in a different era and have defeated apartheid. They have lead the liberation struggle, but they are messing up big time when it comes to governing the country. The solution is to allow younger ones to take the country forward, and let the topies to and enjoy their pensions. Otherwise the ANC will loose power in the next two elections. Remember we have younger people (voters) who read about apartheid, but have never experienced it. Constantly referring to apartheid and blaming it does not appeal to these younger voters who are going to vote the ANC out.

      Bongeka - 2012-12-14 09:24

      Mageba, I don't play the man but the ball. You sound like a brilliant guy but somehow loses direction. I might not have the solution yet but this is definitely not a right way or choice. Leadership these days is no more about serving the people but money and power.

      mark.corrigan.3910 - 2012-12-14 09:53

      Anyone but the ANC...is the way forward.

  • perceive.mashale - 2012-12-14 06:58

    Einstaine once syd a hungry stomuch cannot lead a country n if i check Zuma n Motlanthe are both hungry so i thnk it's better 2 let Zuma finish what he has started...100% Zumantashe cum Mangaung

      nic.nomicos.3 - 2012-12-14 07:13

      Someone needs spelling lessons here...

      Daniel Nunes - 2012-12-14 07:34

      Shame, the ANC along with every other task has failed the education of the people its not your fault you cant spell. Im sure after a few hours i will decipher your comment. enjoy your day rain man.

      mark.corrigan.3910 - 2012-12-14 09:52

      Yes, OBE will still prove the downfall of SA as children like Perceive perceive that they are educated enough to have valuable insight, when they clearly don't.

  • asdhasgd - 2012-12-14 07:03

    I'd vote for him :)

  • douglas.reid.921 - 2012-12-14 07:13

    Someone tell me just one thing the ANCYL has achieved in its time of existence other than a party and a small gravy train for a bunch of fools.

  • davy.botha - 2012-12-14 07:15

    This is again a prime example that our electoral system is flawed and outdated.

  • jman.maluleke - 2012-12-14 07:15

    indeed He is the future of the ANC and South Africa. I think He is the right person to lead the organisation and rescue people of this country from the hands of dictator and criminal J'...Z

  • Daniel Nunes - 2012-12-14 07:38

    It makes no nevermind who rules the party, if its ANC its cr*p...end of story. As long as they fill their pockets and get the masses to vote for them with a free meal before election time their job is done.

  • john.thelps - 2012-12-14 07:46

    They got it wrong with Zuma??

  • Eric Mdudus Shaku - 2012-12-14 07:57

    Motlhante won 3province with 600votes out of 1100votes,bt Zuma won 6province plus other group with 3900votes

      koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2012-12-14 08:16

      Zuma has so many wives I have to pay for and so may children to put in top positions another outcome is unthinkable... at least for him.

  • impi.masondo - 2012-12-14 07:58

    comrades we must have msholozi for 2nd term to early for comrade motlanthe

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-12-14 08:47

      I think the two are too old and must just retire. What can a 74 year old uneducated Zuma brain do other than read speeches?

  • gideon.walt - 2012-12-14 08:51

    Julle is almal poepholle!

  • walter.theo.3 - 2012-12-14 10:29

    Damned Montlanthe has given ANC a semblance of dignty! How I had wished he would have made his intention clear earlier on so that the Zuma group would shout at him and then tear their party apart. Any way he will lose the election and out with him the ANC`s moral standing.

  • annie.israel.50 - 2012-12-14 13:18

    "The ANC shall retain its INTEGRITY!!!" They never had intergrity WHAT A BLUDDY JOKE all they do is steal from hard working people - especially "THE MONSTER ZUMA" - I believe he has 8 WIFES plus numerous of "a bit on the side" NO WONDER HE KEEPS ON PLUNDERING - If he does come into power again MY HEART GOES OUT TO SOUTH AFRICA - downhill for SA and that break my heart in a million pieces - SHAME ON YOU ZUMA U HEARTLESS MONSTER, may u be caught and put in jail for yearsssssss!!

  • cornwell.ncube2 - 2012-12-14 15:04

    I am sure south africans will be guided by principle as they vote for their leaders not the ANCYL. I do hope the future leaders must remodel their youth league so that its power and influence does not drag the whole of south africa into political and economic mess. While l am not South African l think there is nothing wrong with Zuma, He followed the constitution of the party, If ever there is somthing wrong he did as the president, his deputy is also guilt by the same sin. Alowing the youth league to continuously dictate who the president becomes will seriously harm SA. Zuma must be allowed his second and last term. Those who think are south Africans and have better ideas let them share with their president the good ideas they have. I remember i was at a rural school with my friends we were listening to studio 7 that we had that Mbeki had been relieved of his duties. My friends were happy because they thought Zuma was going to deal with Zimbabwe. I tried to explain to them the implications of such a move but they did not understand me. Today and now the very things i said to them are happening.Malema is at Zuma's throat. If ever Montlate will takeover the presidence then south Africa must surely count itself to be a candidate of failure. Montlate by the same sword will fall. he will never be able to satisfy the interest of Malema. He is unfortunately a Zanu pf in a wrong country.

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