Motlanthe ‘wanted no confidence vote’

2012-11-18 17:35

Cape Town - Deputy President Kgalema Motlanthe wanted the opposition’s call for a motion of no confidence in President Jacob Zuma to be tabled before Parliament.

Motlanthe expressed the view that the matter be put to a secret ballot on Wednesday at the meeting of the ANC’s political committee, which he chairs in his capacity as leader of government business in Parliament, but his suggestion was rejected by the ANC’s Parliamentary caucus.

Opposition parties are now taking Parliamentary Speaker Max Sisulu and ANC chief whip Mathole Motshekga to the Western Cape High Court over the decision not to allow the matter to be debated and put to a vote in the National Assembly.

The opposition needs a simple majority to pass the motion.

Motlanthe’s spokesperson, Thabo Masebe, refused to comment on the matter as it was a parliamentary, rather than a government  issue.

Motshekga confirmed that the deputy president had suggested the matter be discussed in Parliament during a meeting of the ANC’s political committee on which Motshekga, Sisulu and Motlanthe sit.


Motlanthe’s proposal might be used against him politically if he challenges Zuma for the ANC’s presidency in Mangaung next month.

“That’s not a good signal for the forces for change [at] Mangaung. It means their candidate doesn’t have influence. And also this thing that he supported the opposition’s motion will be used against him,” said a parliamentary source.

However, according to Motshekga, the debate in the caucus was not a sign of disunity.

“Contrary to suggestions, the ANC is very united. People confuse preferences for candidates [in Mangaung] with disunity.

“If we didn’t have different preferences, it would mean that our internal democracy is dead, and that would lead to the death of the organisation itself.”

Motshekga said the motion had been rejected because it was “not genuine, not innocent, but is part of an onslaught on the ANC itself and the ANC-led government”.


He said: “But now they are using the President as an entry point. This thing has nothing to do with any wrongdoing on the part of the President. That’s why ANC members in Parliament unanimously rejected that motion.”

Motshekga confirmed that MP Lumka Yengeni wanted the issue to be handled differently, but said she eventually accepted the collective decision of the caucus when it said the matter should not be debated in Parliament.

Motlanthe’s view was echoed by Yengeni, but did not get support at the party’s caucus meeting.

One MP said: “Lumka stood up and said if we are ANC cadres, why are we scared of the opposition. Lumka was saying isiqhela kakubi iDA [the DA takes us for granted], we’ll defend Zuma.”

ANC caucus spokesperson Moloto Mothapo confirmed that Yengeni favoured a secret ballot on the  no-confidence motion, but defended her motive.

Mothapo said: “Lumka was not saying let it be debated because she wants the President to be attacked or probed by Parliament. She was just saying the ANC should not be seen as running away from debates. She said this should be seen as an opportunity to rally behind the President.”

Yengeni could not be reached for comment.

Motshekga told City Press the ANC would oppose the DA’s court action, which seeks to get the court to order Parliament to table the motion for debate.

“Our view is that the opposition wants to use the court to micro-manage Parliament,” he said.

  • - 2012-11-18 10:36

    Im not surprised by Kgalema's stance on no confidence issue.He is unable to see what is wrong or right.If he did he would have not entertained the illdiscipline malema to spearhead his campain.Cyril Ramaphosa should be the deputy president of the ANC in Mangaung because from where I stand Kgalema is now blinded by his hunger for the top position in the ANC.That is his weakness and I don't think that he will be able to deal with corruption and illdiscipline within the organisation.

      thembinkosi.jozie - 2012-11-18 17:52

      But he stood by Zuma too when Mbeki wanted expel him for corruption and bringing the anc into disrepute so he was right then? Now who is dividing the ANC now Zuma or Malema

      SharonE - 2012-11-18 18:01

      Set your watch, he is most certainly going to deny everything tomorrow!

      storm.trooper.125 - 2012-11-18 18:19

      MICHAEL..THERES NO SUCH THING AS A CAPE u from the village or what???STATS IN CAPE TOWN SHOWS EVEN IN BLACK TOWNSHIPS VOTED FOR THE DA!! your statement ar saying you are tired of black politics,,u say black politicians in oposition parties like the DA make u sick as well!!

      alan.yates.18007 - 2012-11-18 18:44

      To the DA Leadership : Please carry out a creditable cost/benefit analysis of a DA ruled SA vs the corrupt and inefficient ANC ruled country. Perhaps it might sway the 'ANC right or wrong' brigade. Entitle it 'Let's all be Winners' (implying not just the ANC hierarchy).

      johan.maree.5036 - 2012-11-18 19:50

      @michael, racist much? Who is the cape party? If you are referring to the Da, then you are barking up the wrong tree. The DA is every colour in the country! There are many black politicians in the DA... If your referring to that party that got next to no votes, "make the cape independence" or something stupid like that, I pity you...

      heathway.master - 2012-11-19 02:13

      Zuma has now got himself into a very serious situation. The DA or the public should insist on a full forensic audit on the Nkandla debacle. If it turns out that Zuma has lied to the Nation, legally he is liable to immediate impeachment. This is the common law of the world. He would them lose his Government pension and other related perks of an ex-President. If he is called to repeat his claims in a court of Law, he will then be guilty of Perjury, a criminal offence. I doubt whether Zuma will be oily enough to squeeze out of the deep trouble he has landed himself in by blatantly lying to the Nation. I will watch further developments with great interest.

      mandy.cox.1257 - 2012-11-19 10:10 You are so wrong in your off-hand rubbishing of Hon. Mothlanthe; he is a leader who is brave enough to admit that there is one hellovalot wrong with the present ANC, starting at the very top (Zuma). An opportunity for all MP's (that includes ANC MP's) to vote on the suitability of Zuma to take us beyond the precipise that he has led this country to in only three years, is sorely needed. It is time for the truth to be told by those who have the courage to tell it.

      morris.khunou - 2012-11-19 12:16

      Kgalema cannot challenge Zuma head on. I do understand his position. He is avoiding the all or nothing approach. He knows that If he launches a head on approach to Zuma he might loose the Dep Pres and might find himself left inthe cold. The so called motion issue provides him with the immediate hope, but consequeses for these are unknown and can be dire, despite will set uncontrolable pecedences for the future!

  • tony.thobejane - 2012-11-18 12:09

    Your article is misleading. Your "Motlanthe, wanted no confidence vote" and "Deputy president supported opposition's stance on Zuma" is nothing but naughty. You are creating an impression that Motlanthe sides with Opposition parties in this. To some of us the road to Mangaung is nothing but the battle between good and evil.

      JanGrimbeek - 2012-11-18 18:08

      battle between "very evil" and those "not so very evil" you mean !!

  • Dollezer - 2012-11-18 12:50

    Motlanthe a first class sellout!!!!

      sean.mkhize.1 - 2012-11-18 17:53

      Pres Zuma is and will again be elected by the majority of this country. Not the court or Eurocentric DA. Apartheid did not work and it will never succeed.

      mbulelo.somzana - 2012-11-18 18:05

      It appears you understand autocracy better than democracy,I suppose you are aa communist who believe that a different view is ''selling out''

      Msika - 2012-11-19 09:46

      @Sean.mkhize.1, it's my wish that Zuma gets a re-elected for a 2nd term, that will gurantee the DA a coupla more Votes. The logic is simple: Manny South Africans (Black, white, poor, rich) are tired of Zoomer, he is seen and is the worse SA president ever under democracy, and if he's given a 2nd term, some of these people would rather vote for another party (likely the DA)instead of voting him back into power for another 5 years.

      morris.khunou - 2012-11-19 13:33

      @Msika. People will rather not vote than vote DA. During election time the euphoria changes, people just dont want to mis-out. Yes some people might comlain about Zuma/ANC, but listen to them carefully, they will never even mention DA. Then experiment by just throwing the name DA/Zille on the discussion and check the emmidiate reaction!

      ntombizandile.cekiso - 2012-11-19 17:16

      @ Dollezer. Sho, not just sellout but also a poisonous snake,backstabber you name it. Ukhwelecingweni omdala.

  • victor.tshikovhele - 2012-11-18 14:42

    Mr mathole motshekga we are very suurprised by you a man of calibre like you bussy defending it because of limpopo textbooks saga?

      dbo.kacebisa - 2012-11-18 17:51

      Now how was limpopo text book fiasco motshekga's problem. When it all went wrong where was the mec or the premier?

  • sepadi.tladi - 2012-11-18 15:18

    I support President-elect Motlanthe.If the ANC is not scared of the opposition,why dont they let the matter be debated and be voted for? Are they afraid that some of their own members ca n vote against their leader?If that is the case, then its obvious Zuma will not survive Mangaung.

      dbo.kacebisa - 2012-11-18 17:49

      Lets wait and see how mangaung pans out

      dbo.kacebisa - 2012-11-18 18:23

      There is a light at the end of a tunnel...he's coming

      narike.lintvelt.9 - 2012-11-18 18:31

      I have created a petition supporting SA's opposition parties' motion of no confidence in Pres Zuma. Please take the time to sign this and pass it on. Thank you.

  • narike.lintvelt.9 - 2012-11-18 15:22

    I have created a petition supporting SA's opposition parties' motion of no confidence in Pres Zuma. Please take the time to sign this and pass it on. Thank you.

      thebe.motshwadira - 2012-11-18 18:43


      thebe.motshwadira - 2012-11-18 18:43


      jacowium - 2012-11-19 12:10

      For what it's worth, added my name too. Thank you, Narike.

  • narike.lintvelt.9 - 2012-11-18 15:23

    I have created a petition supporting SA's opposition parties' motion of no confidence in Pres Zuma. Please take the time to sign and share this. Thank you.

      dbo.kacebisa - 2012-11-18 17:48

      Funny how DA/Cope use under handed tactics. Methinks if you guys can do some honest campaigning in black communities maybe you might get a slice of action in parliament.

      eric.viljoen - 2012-11-18 18:57

      Honest campaigning? You mean making false promises and handing out T-shirts?

      narike.lintvelt.9 - 2012-11-18 20:12

      @dbo.kacebisa: I started this petition in my personal capacity and would like to remind you that ALL opposition parties in SA signed this motion.

  • sepadi.tladi - 2012-11-18 15:23

    I support President-elect Motlanthe.If the ANC is not scared of the opposition,why dont they let the matter be debated and be voted for? Are they afraid that some of their own members ca n vote against their leader?If that is the case, then its obvious Zuma will not survive Mangaung.

      jackie.esterhuizen.52 - 2012-11-18 19:05

      I so agree with you Sepadi that man JZ is killing this country for ALL Races!

      mondli.ndlovu.357 - 2012-11-18 21:10

      In Mangaung Anc branch members who wil b voting not parlamenterians

  • nieklaassen - 2012-11-18 16:04

    This Comde Motlanthe, I fear i cannot seems to get a grip on this charactor, it looks lie he is those ones who are going with the flow.. I would never love to have a President who cannot decide or be open and tell us either in or out...

  • george.pistorius - 2012-11-18 17:38

    Get over yourself already!!!

  • melusi.myaluza - 2012-11-18 17:43

    This is quite simple,DA should get enough votes and lead the country,instead of them running to courts every time they don't get what they want,childish really,but then this forum is full of fascists,DA can go to hell for all I care,the ANC will continue to rule till all the wrongs of the past have been fixed,Amen!

      spillies - 2012-11-18 17:50

      Your words: \Can ho to hell...\ Is so typical of ANC bullyism. But you are in for a RUDE awakening. The DA is on the rise and the ANC is splitting and loosing members by the DA. Your rude words don't hurt us at all. Fact is, most of your comrades want zuma out.

      davemanza - 2012-11-18 17:57

      Know this Melusi: One cannot fix the mistakes of the past by trying to reverse them. An attempt at reversal is a replication of the same evil with different protagonists. One cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. You are holding onto a pipe-dream that has proven time and again to end up in the ruination of the dreamer. Change your mindset or lose everything you believe you are entitled to.

      reza.vandoorsen.3 - 2012-11-18 18:00

      This is such a narrow minded comment! You make reference to righting past wrongs yet you support a similar regime. Is that not a contradiction? What is the point of parliament if constructive debate is either frowned upon or worse (simply ignored). I am inclined to go as far as say this comment is in its simplest form ignorant. Why not stop the bias and allow for true democracy?

      Marco van Rensburg - 2012-11-18 18:04

      Haha,lol you are a joke wrong replace with even worst wrong!

      jackie.esterhuizen.52 - 2012-11-18 18:58


      darryl.strachan.71 - 2012-11-18 19:31

      Please can someone invent a pill for stupidity.... One cannot right the wrongs of the past as in future this so called doing right will be wrong for the future to come and therefore this idiocy will continue in a circle... When will they learn not to be fooled by empty promises

      dorcas.magagula.5 - 2012-11-18 20:05

      The sooner you guys make peace with the fact that ANC rules this country the better cos all this bitterness won't change anything call us stupid all you want but DA will NEVER I mean NEVER win elections,ANC is hear 2 stay deal with that its a FACT

      pmolesworth - 2012-11-18 20:27

      Firstly the ANC will never right the wrongs of the past for 2 reasons, firstly they are too busy pulling the wool over their lovers(dbo) eyes while they steal you blind and, secondly, they are too busy creating a whole new set of wrongs that will be in the past. Additionally, if the great, white masses of America can get over their race issue then there is always hope for us in that the black people who keep the thieves in power migh tuse their vote that was so hard fought for to vote for what is right not for a colour...

  • rbphiri - 2012-11-18 17:45

    sub judice my black rear! Parliament should table the motion for debate. Someone is afraid of the conquences that this might have on their chances in mangaung.

  • maverick.generators - 2012-11-18 17:50

    This article was written by an illiterate person. My brain is fried after trying to make sense of it...

      beverly.young3 - 2012-11-18 18:21

      Yeah I must admit I have had to read through it quite a few times, must be my age :)

  • lee.brand.73 - 2012-11-18 17:52

    Heh heh. The blood is in the water and the crocs are jockeying for position.\r\n\r\nI smell fear in the Anc. Who is going to knife who? The long knives are out. The DA can sit on the edge of the river and collect all the tasty morsels of leaked dirt that they all have on each other. Truely a gold nugget moment!!!

  • zolisa.dlokovu - 2012-11-18 17:54

    hey.South African politics

  • Montagnes.Bleues - 2012-11-18 17:58

    Quite what is it making all these creatures more so thick headed than two planks crushed under the tyres of an 18 wheeler full of viagra on the way to nkandla? Must be the tenderpreneur contracts they have are thicker than the planks - or at least the percentages they all escalate them with. Dichaba - Kopania

  • thabo.modiba.7 - 2012-11-18 18:00

    \Motlanthe ‘wanted no confidence vote\’he definitely vote against JZ, if he escape he will demand that he must submit spy tapes. Its a good move Kgalema.

  • yonela.mashalaba - 2012-11-18 18:01

    Not allowing parliament to do thier primary business which amongst other things is to debate issues of national interest is micro managing parliament itself.

  • liezl.haramis.7 - 2012-11-18 18:03

    Amazing...opinions...and so many spelling mistakes..hehe

      sean.mkhize.1 - 2012-11-18 18:17

      R u referring to English spelling? Unfortunately there's no F7

      sthembiso.jali.50 - 2012-11-18 18:27

      Who cares, as long as the sentence make sense. Freak.

      maserame.kale - 2012-11-18 19:15

      English test!?

      silenta.solly - 2012-11-19 10:55

      The fact that you acknowledge "amazing opinions" means you understood each and every comment, which was the entire point.

  • sthembiso.jali.50 - 2012-11-18 18:06

    Im always behind motlanthe, but this is not a right way to go. Its cheap politics to be exact.

      ezekiel.rapulane - 2012-11-18 18:33


      Msika - 2012-11-19 09:57


      maureen.churchill.9 - 2012-11-19 16:18

      Everyone should have a view on NEWS24, does not matter if a person can spell or not, you may have been in a better position insofar as education was concerned, so leave him/her alone, we get the gist of what they are saying. By-the-way when do YOUR elocution lessons begin I want to enrol

  • firmsly.kabelo - 2012-11-18 18:06

    Mantlanthe wanted to give the freedom that he fought for a chance,unlike others who are hell bent on destroying our constitution and democracy they so claim to protect. The fact that Motlanthe called for the voting to take place tells us that the man is a player of the game not the man. Those who call for Zumas second term please tell me why must I vote for a man who is a liar,a man who doesnt respect our courts and laws,the man who is always dividing our country along racial lines,a man who calls his comrades snakes,a man who built his house from dirty money and a man who never who has corruption chargers around his head.

      jackie.esterhuizen.52 - 2012-11-18 18:28


      stephanjj - 2012-11-19 14:10

      Well put firmsly. It's time we put leaders in charge of this country that knows the difference between right and wrong, and not race. It's time for leaders that makes righteous decisions for ALL the people and not leaders that make decisions that fits their needs.....and their pockets.

  • JanGrimbeek - 2012-11-18 18:07

    If they promise KFC packs to the voters, do they promise KFC franchises to the ANC mp's ? A lot to loose if zoema cannot sign those fringe benefits into being, so he will be re elected by the current rotten crowd.

      maureen.churchill.9 - 2012-11-19 16:21

      The new KFC advert only show black kiddies, what about the poor white kids? I will still buy KFC but I'm VERY disappointed in you

  • abner.malema - 2012-11-18 18:11

    Media and some inside the ANC is trying to cause friction in order for the DA to win. Motlanthe proposed a secret ballot to determine whether to accept the motion amongst the ANC parliamentarians. Thus democracy

      JanGrimbeek - 2012-11-18 18:18

      The media and the DA did not argue about this, it was the rest of the ANC who did not want to accept it, waky waky waky --- think you're lost

      abner.malema - 2012-11-18 19:50

      They way reporting is done. The headlines are chosen as if comrade Motlanthe is against zZuma whilst when you read tthe whole news is different meaning

  • mzuvumile.g.mnqanqeni - 2012-11-18 18:28

    Mkhuluwa remain true leader in the ANC this suggestion that he 'want no confidence vote remain suspicious and peddling of lies. I think its time for him to take over the rains before our movement lose all remaining respect. Asijiki.

  • tebogoasterr.metswamere - 2012-11-18 18:36


      Joseph Masingi - 2012-11-18 20:09

      De ANC lead de country n Zuma is there as the face of the ANC. The ANC formulates the policies to take this country forward to prosperity. If Zuma has failed to lead the country it basically means that de ANC has failed to lead this country.

  • rofhiwa.ronald.77 - 2012-11-18 19:16

    Motlantle atleast now u start to smell the coffee even if its too little 2 late . Just stand ur grounds by showing ur fans that u have a strong backbone unlike what were u doing b4 of hiding behind ur closet.

  • Nhlanhla Zondi - 2012-11-18 19:24

    Bad move by Mothlante very bad move, Zuma will use this against you and you wont stand a chance in Mangaung

  • metja.monare - 2012-11-18 19:44

    Now am confused Sunday Times report that Motlanthe chaired the committe bt never commented contrary to what City Press reports, who is telling the truth?

      smangathulani.simelani - 2012-11-18 19:53

      How do both get private sitting stories, are corrupt like ANC. They bribe ANC members, if so they are the same very corrupt people.

  • smangathulani.simelani - 2012-11-18 19:46

    This is cheap reporting by CP, there is no one who will loose his/her job for going along with something that will never work, unless if ANC members do not undestand democracy like the DA or Zille. DP was expressing his anger against Terror and Fatty it is that simple.

  • markus.esterhuyse - 2012-11-18 19:54

    Mr Motlanthe I salute you for doing what is just! To all those who commented on this and seeing it as a move from the DA I pity your low level of comprehension of righteousness. The last time I saw it was ALL opposition parties voting on this! JZ screwed up and got a second chance when charges were dropped, yet he continued in his crooked ways! He will fall its just a matter of time! God never sleeps!

  • guruswiz - 2012-11-18 20:59

    I welcome you, Mr Motlanthe, just must be sacking by President Jacob Zuma right now. Good bye!!!

  • siphiwevusi.mabika - 2012-11-18 21:32

    U should have done this during, FW Deklerk turn which was more than worse then this, Mothlanthe is a failure, he don't trust himself, he's late to Chalenge JZ, already 70% branches voted, 30% won't make a difference.

  • Skhumbembe - 2012-11-18 22:17

    Mo this wht u've just done not a very good political strategy my deputy. Even thou I dont favour U I seriously thought U may just as well make some move. Now all is lost, talking about amunition to the other camp when Mangaung sit.

  • barry.pointeer - 2012-11-19 05:24

    only because he wasnt to be president and nationalise the mines and have Malema reinstated as ANCYL president etc etc

  • brionyl.french - 2012-11-19 05:28

    We all did!!! But in a Dictatorship the people dont count now do they Jacob

  • andrew.arnesen - 2012-11-19 06:59

    There are none so blind as those who will not see.

  • janzanele - 2012-11-19 07:30

    Let's wait and see what will happened in Mangaung,because there is less to tell.if you don't compaign then you expert to win,Media is telling us so many stories we don't know who to believe

  • glen.e.huysamer - 2012-11-19 07:53

    Do believe anything the ANC say's, does anybody believe that they are united, disciplined and totally together......? Why is it so easy to say no. I will not be surprised that Zuma and his elicit "Gumpta controlled cronies" will be so blindsided come Maugaung that they will be marched straight out of the conference straight to jail. I think the safest thing for him is to accept the vote of no confidence from parliament and leave with some hope of grace. The New Zule King and his disciples have overstepped their own importance and have threatened to many of their own comrades to believe that they are going to be safe at Maungaung. Interesting times ahead........the ANC soap opera showdown!!!!

  • ziso.maziso - 2012-11-19 08:00

    Mothlante's a time-waster with no guts!

      maureen.churchill.9 - 2012-11-19 16:36

      Think very hard and carefully about who you want to lead this country, as much as I like Motlanthe, I believe we will get much the same as we've had these past years. Vote with your head not with your heart. We have got to, all of us, work together get this country back on it's feet. Don't ask me how, we have clever people out there who can guide us.

  • winifred.watson.9 - 2012-11-19 09:34

    If Motlanthe wanted to push for a vote of no confidence which if he really had the ANC organization at heart he would have done so. In that he did'nt push too hard just confirms that he is sitting on the fence and will fall on the right side when the time comes. Whether its at Zuma's side or if Zuma is ousted he will take over the leadership. He is not going to jeopadise his current position. In that the current leadership under Zuma are blind and none of them have spoken out against Zuma, so one can only assume that they are protecting a man at the cost of losing the struggle to freedom. What history is going to be left behind for their children. The ANC fought and won the struggle and 20 years down the line the leadership became weak and lost their vision for the people due to arrogant lying criminals who stole from their very people for their own enrichment, A leadership weak, no dignity or integrity blinded by greed rotting their souls from within. A leadership, whereby not one can stand up and tell the truth, they protect the biggest criminal of all.....they are the black mafia.

  • nicolevandordrecht - 2012-11-19 10:05

    The reason why DA is unable to go into townships to gain support is because the ANC stops them from doing this with violence. This happens every election.

  • douglas.reid.921 - 2012-11-19 10:15

    Its called political suicide. Bye bye KM. Snake in the grass.

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-11-19 11:01

    What a pity Mothlante's decency is making it impossible for him to become president. The crooks won't allow it.

  • Lekgwakgwa - 2012-11-19 11:44

    Motlanthe can become a ANC president before Mangaung if the motion of opposition parties passed in parliament so we can save a lot to feeding Zuma family and he can married more waves.

  • peter.jefferies.90 - 2012-11-19 12:02

    In my view Motlanthe is not good for this country, he is a follower and will follow anyone who will make him money. What has he ever done for SA? When has he ever opened his mouth to challange anything? As the Deputy President he should be 100% opposed to what Zuma is doing. Motlanthe also supports Malema which is further proof that he is a coward because he thinks that he will gain votes by supporting another criminal.

  • mdy.chauke - 2012-11-19 12:37

    The Mothsega family have continued to undermined South Africans just becose of Friendship,they have lost all sense of Moral that they would support anything as long as they gain one way or the other,Our country is being used to nurse schools of failures,just becose of unsound comradeship,they continue to make us a laughing stock amongst nation of the World,his wife has been failing us,&he&his friend the President have continued to do the same failing the Country for their own poltical conspiracy!

  • mthobs - 2012-11-19 12:55

    ENC Emotional National Congress, where are the think tanks of our movement? how long will we elect leaders with emotions and remove them the same way. We are now removing Zuma and using Motlanthe as a replacement. Motlanthe is not ready to lead from the sit of the President just like Zuma was not when we emotionally removed Mbeki.

  • thembinkosi.jozie - 2012-11-19 17:40

    Relax guys There are so many ways to kill A corrupt cat like Zuma first we vote him out in Mangaung If he wins then all of us we vote DA in 2014 and Zille will put him where he belongs in jail Even if u are not a DA member it Is better to have Zille as President than Zuma I am sure all of us who don't like Zuma are too clever to beleave that the DA will bring back apartheid in a constitutional democracy

  • braamc - 2012-11-19 17:41

    Get rid of that criminal Zoomer showerhead

  • charles.kubhayi.98 - 2012-11-19 18:15

    If the ANC in parliament allows this vote of no confidence from opposition parties to proceed and adopted, it will be the last day for ANC rule in the country. Unfortunately it looks like the ANC factional politics is eroding parliament because some ANC parliamentarians seem to support this motion which seeks to pave way for Motlante but they fail to think for the long term role of the ANC. They only think for their positions in the shot term which will be short lived by the success of the vote of no confidence by opposition parties.