Municipalities are arrogant: Cosatu

2011-08-29 22:25

Bloemfontein - Municipalities are being arrogant by not raising their wage offer for their employees from 6%, Cosatu in the Free State said on Monday.

“It is very disturbing and annoying to see how the SA Local Government Association [Salga] treats workers under the SA Municipal Workers' Union [Samwu],” the Congress of SA Trade Unions' Free State secretary Sam Mashinini said on Monday.

Samwu, a Cosatu affiliate, had dropped its salary demands from 18% to 10%, whilst Salga had made no move at all. He said in any negotiation, the principle guiding both sides should be a willingness to address the dispute.

Mashinini said Salga’s attitude did not make sense. It was critical for the employer to raise its offer to the workers.

“We are calling on Salga to be serious and take issues raised by workers seriously," Mashinini said.

Last week striking municipal workers trashed Bloemfontein streets during protest marches to the Bram Fischer Building, headquarters of the Mangaung metro.

  • BakkieB - 2011-08-29 22:41

    Municiple workers can go to hell for all I care. I don't need them. Can get electricity from "Eksdom", water and sanitation from "Rand Waster", dump my own refuse. Roads........never fixed. What else do I need them for?

      BakkieB - 2011-08-29 22:42

      to add to that, Eukuruleni (EMPD) are a punch of useless, tax sucking thieves. Don't need them either.

      Neil - 2011-08-30 02:55

      Cosatu: Perhaps if you idiots stop making a nuisance of yourself and engage in a CIVILIZED meeting, instead of instigating a bunch of brainless clowns to trash the city and set dustbins a light, you might get some where. But then again, I doubt civilized is a term you lot could ever comprehend??

      Neil - 2011-08-30 02:57

      And then you call them arrogant Cosatu??? Holy sh*t, I thought Malema was stupid but you lot just landed 1st place!

      BigD - 2011-08-30 07:12

      The municipal works are paid higher than private sector. Maybe a reality check for many of these municipal workers is needed.

  • Emen - 2011-08-29 23:31

    Word on the street is that this strike is an abysmal failure. Local government seems to have perfected their contingency measures and barely notice these strikes. They had 10 years to perfect this, with every year's strike they had to deal with! Workers are catching on to the union's con too, the only ones to lose out are the workers themselves.

      DW - 2011-08-30 09:02

      You dont come in with a totally ridiculous demand of 18% increase and expect anyone to take you seriously - so the municipalities ignored them and found that they can actually run perfectly well without them! So they have been off work for over 2 weeks with no pay - and nothing to show for it. Union bosses are proving more and more that they do not have the best interests of the workers at heart. While the workers strike with no pay, the union bosses rake in big money. This is why the number of people belonging to unions has DECREASED since 1994. They will die a natural death in the end, which will be the best thing for this country.

  • Macho Mike - 2011-08-30 00:09

    Arrogant? I would say they are useless, stupid, dumb, incompetent, clueless, fraudulent, corrupt and lazy.

      Neil - 2011-08-30 02:58

      you forgot to add NUISANCE.. All they are is just a bloody nuisance.. Here they are thinking they proving a point, instead they irritate us with their stupidity.

  • Jabulaniboy - 2011-08-30 00:34

    So the pot is calling the kettle black !!!! go find the word "arrogant" in the dictionary. It is described as COSATU !!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Chris in Oz - 2011-08-30 06:00

    I say give them the 10%. But then deduct from their salary all the costs incurred by their barabric acts during their marches. That would probably wipe out the extra 4%.

  • O'forth - 2011-08-30 07:14

    OH? And who was the arrogant idiots who started haggling at 18%, made it quite clear they were going to settle for much less and then still came on strike and looted innocent taxpaying citizens of the first economy? These communists make me sick. Stupidtest bunch of two dimentional exploiters of the poor there are.

  • ZeDon - 2011-08-30 07:15

    How about making the increases performance based? I doubt any municipal worker that I've EVER encountered would get above -50% increase... On a side point, why isn't the union being held liable for the damage cause during the marches they "organize"?

  • Andrew - 2011-08-30 07:54

    The arrogance lies with the union asking for 18% and then dropping it to 10%. 6% is above inflation and is more than enough its time the people working in these positions started doing there jobs, most are over paid to start with. Unions need to understand that there is a balance with which negotiations need to take place, the unions have disrupted this balance with the arrogant unrealistic demands its time that balance is restored

  • laties - 2011-08-30 08:39

    Why should SALGA move, they had a 3 year agreement, which the unions chose to break, not SALGA. SALGA is simply offering what the unions already agreed to in 2009, which is still better that cpi.

  • jobho - 2011-08-30 09:05

    Whilst I might not condone their acts, I think we have to put it into figures. for someone earning R3000 per month a 6% increase will be adding R180 to their pocket. Truly speaking this is not even enough raise to buy a pack of pampers, for those expecting an addition to their families. At times we look at the percentages and think the demand is too much but putting it in figures will really help to understand the plight of the ordinary Municipal worker. At the same time top government officials are bound to get 5% increment. earning R120k/m the increase is more like an extra R6k. facts and figures

      DW - 2011-08-30 10:17

      jobho, the unions represent the people. If they agreed to a 3 year agreement, the municipalities write their budgets based on that. They cannot then come in and demand 3x what was originally agreed. And striking for more than 2 weeks with no pay will cost the workers a hell of a lot more than the increase they are losing out on. So they will be able to buy even less "Pampers" than had they not gone on strike at all. Striking makes no sense whatsoever and those who lose even more are the workers.

      jobho - 2011-08-30 11:31

      Actually I think I misplaced my comment. I am not here to support the unions whose agenda is anyone's guess. My issue is about the average municipal worker. If I worked in the municipality I wouldnt risk my life going to work during the strike days (we all know what happens if you do) My issue is about looking at the big picture, yes they agreed to a 3 year deal but all the same it is the workers who suffer. Not all municipal workers belong to the unions and not all municipal workers toyi toyi in the streets. there are respectable workers out there.

  • beicime - 2011-09-19 17:17

    Incompetence is compensated with arrogance. When one has no answer it plays an arrogant role to intimated and put the customer off.

  • glen.e.huysamer - 2012-05-22 00:35

    If I were the municipal workers I would not trust their Union as far as they could be thrown, while they claim to be the champions of the workers, for years they have been negotiating and settling for increases that fly well below the inflation rate, affectively ensuring that workers remain underpaid. The end result is that the older the worker becomes and the longer he stays in the job the poorer he becomes. While the unions increase their fees, year on year, workers should ask where does their money go, and who is regulating the Unions. It is all a scam, with deals being made behind closed doors and under tables all the time. Let us have a Union, Workers, Employers Negotiation live and on National Television, enough of this behind close doors stuff, let us see what the result will turn out to be. It will be far better than burning dirt bins.

  • Wayne - 2012-05-22 07:57

    COSATU, the principles that should define this engagement should be a)fair pay for fair work, and b)inflation rate taken into consideratio and c)the ability of the councils to pay i.e. their financdial position. At present, there is little evidence of fair work being done. Try and get your bill resolved at JHB Metro Council or take a look at the state of the road verges, which are filthy with trash wherever you go in Gauteng. If this is the quality of work that is being provided by Municpal workers, then i say, reduce their salaries or fire them and replace them with willing workers. COSATU are out of touch with the realities of the situation and are so compromised that they are incapable of providing a fair situational assessment.

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