NYDA salary budget soars: DA Youth

2012-03-14 13:18

Cape Town - The Democratic Alliance Youth has asked Minister in the Presidency Collins Chabane to urgently intervene in the National Youth Development Agency (NYDA).

This follows a reply to a parliamentary question that reveals that leading to 2015 the agency will spend over 100% of its budget on staff salaries.

According to the written reply by Chabane, the NYDA had 453 employees in 2011/2012. This included two executive board members, five non-executive board members, 17 provincial advisory board executive members, 41 part-time provincial advisory board members, three board independent specialists, 10 temporary (relieving) staff, 336 permanent staff, and 39 fixed term contract staff (three to five years).

The total employment cost was R174 501 596, or 42% of the NYDA's total budget for that year.

Chabane said funded or paid positions for the 2012/13 financial year totalled 500.

The organisational structure approved by the NYDA board on June 14 2010, for full implementation by 2015, totalled 2 152 staff members.

Commenting on the reply, DA Youth leader Makashule Gana said this meant the NYDA now employed 500 people at an average cost of R29 000 per staff member per month.

In terms of the medium-term expenditure estimate set by National Treasury, in 2015 the NYDA was due to receive R419m to fund its operations.

"But working on the R29 000 per staff member average, the staffing costs alone approved by the NYDA board for 2015 amount to R749m - a R330m overspend on the total budget."

Even working on a conservative average staff allocation of R18,000 per employee per month to cater for clerical staff, the salary bill came in at R465 million.

"We have known for a long time that the ANC Youth League-aligned national NYDA board is running an employment agency for pals. It is only now that we can see just how focused on staffing, to the exclusion of real youth development, the NYDA board is -- to the point that its plans are simply nonsensical."

No organisation could operate when its strategic plans and budget were so incompatible. This was the reason the DA youth was requesting urgent intervention by Chabane, Gana said.

  • Pythagoras - 2012-03-14 13:26

    2152 staff for youth development????? WTF? And averaging R29000 P/M? I wonder if half these employees even work for the NYDA! Some of them probably sit at home and do nothing! WTF is wrong with this country???Malema has definately got a hand in this!

      Tshifhiwa - 2012-03-14 14:01

      R29000 is fair.

      Squeegee - 2012-03-14 14:02

      If R29000 is the average, I want to know what the top guys are earning and how that relates to the average "youth" salary.... Thieves!

      Tshifhiwa - 2012-03-14 14:05

      R29000 is not much.

      Nosiphom - 2012-03-14 14:16

      Correct Steen it is fair if you are actually doing something. Its a hell of a lot for just talking and arranging taxpayer funded parties for youths of the world.

      Tshifhiwa - 2012-03-14 14:23

      None of us can prove if this guys are earning this money for doing nothing. it is just that News24 and the white readers are ANCPHOBIA.

      Pythagoras - 2012-03-14 14:28

      @ Leonard Bloch - I could not agree more! So many staff doing what exactly? That is a tremendous amount of people focusing on youth development!

      Christian J Denyschen - 2012-03-14 14:40

      @Tshifhiwa read the facts your racism is making you blind or can you prove them wrong if so please enlighten us!

      richard.fahrenfort - 2012-03-14 14:43

      Crooked cadres doing what they do best. Dissolve the NYDA nonsense and channel the funds towards the youth wage subsidy, skills development, education and apprenticeship programs for the youth instead. The high youth unemployment rate is going to bite us in the bum later if we don't do something about it fast!

      Rob - 2012-03-14 15:17

      Steen: You are out of touch with reality when you say thet R29k per month is fair. Note that we are talking average here. Now, check the average salaries in European countries, and these averages include everyone including very senior academics/business/leaders. Consider also that a weighted cost of living index for SA is at least 20-30% lower than Europe. The average for Greece and Portugal is equivalent to around R25k per month. A reality check is needed I think.

      pws69 - 2012-03-14 15:33

      @steen, The average ANNUAL income in South Africa is R18,000.

      Nosiphom - 2012-03-14 15:44

      Steen - we should not prove that they are doing nothing. If they were doing anything we would see the results, that's all. If for the 500 people they employ they would show me say 5000 jobs they have created through helping young entrepreneurs, I would say the money is well spent. Currently we see nothing. So they should prove to us that we are paying them to do something, not the other way around.

      Vince - 2012-03-14 16:43

      Viva DA Viva for asking the right questions in parliament so that the facts can be reported on!

      maseratifittipaldi - 2012-03-14 17:06

      Steen : Fair for what? R29 000 per month could be considered a fair remuneration for an executive in charge of a capital or operational budget of R2,9m per month. If you say it is fair in this case, please indicate the output of the recipients of these salaries.

  • Piet - 2012-03-14 13:27

    BEE is such a roaring success to the few! I wonder what these sods do to earn that amount of money?

      Tony Lapson - 2012-03-14 13:42

      Eventually the bubble will burst, and those who are used to the (government provided) lavish lifestyles will find themselves suck with the only experience they gained, sitting around and doing nothing. Then they will say that it was caused by apartheid and imperialism.

      Piet - 2012-03-14 14:16

      BEE in its current form is imperialism!

      Tshifhiwa - 2012-03-14 14:28

      I agree with you Piet, it would have been great if BEE was benefitting all the black people not just few, like what the Apartheid government did with white people.

      PB - 2012-03-14 14:42

      When the NYDA were given the green light to "create" jobs, they didn't quite get it - they thought it meant creating jobs for all their chommies. They didn't get the part where those jobs needed to create or achieve something other than sitting around having parties AND getting paid serious money for it. Steen, could you give 2 examples of anything this oh so wonderful group has achieved?

  • Peter - 2012-03-14 13:28


      Tshifhiwa - 2012-03-14 14:06

      Is too much for black person to earn R29000 a month.

      Guy - 2012-03-14 14:51

      @Steen No, R29k pm for any person is a good salary. The point is what are they doing for their money? The report shows that the NYDA is overspending it's budget on salaries alone. What money does it have left to actually do something?

      Tshifhiwa - 2012-03-14 15:13

      Then Government must increase the budget to at least R1.5 Billion so that they can start performing their task. This report proves that the current budget is not sufficient for the organization to perform their duties.

      Boom - 2012-03-14 15:32

      @Steen, There is nothing wrong with a black person EARNING R29k a month. The thing is that nobody in NYDA does any work through which they can EARN R29k a month!

      pws69 - 2012-03-14 16:22

      @boom, Steen is obviously an ANCYL member. You need to understand that just arriving at work is an achievement for these guys. So just by clocking in they believe they've earned their R29,000. The rest of the day is spend figuring out how to create tenders, like a R110 million kissing contest, to enrich themselves/uncles/brothers/cousins.

      maseratifittipaldi - 2012-03-14 17:41

      I am convinced we have guys like Steen in government. To them a "job" only means salary and perks. Actual output is an alien concept. Steen still cannot say what these NYDA fools are being paid for. I think we should charge the Minister of Finance for his part in bringing about this fruitless expenditure.

  • Carry - 2012-03-14 13:40


      Michael - 2012-03-14 13:44

      @Carry...... Are you really surprised??

  • Makhumuzi - 2012-03-14 13:42

    This does not make sence....2154 staff members, whata are they doing? Maybe they should present to us, the youth of SA, of their plans and success stories

      Marion - 2012-03-14 13:49

      @Makhumuzi - isn't one of their functions supposed to be helping young entrepreneurs to start their own businesses with NYDA financial assistance?

      Juan - 2012-03-14 16:17

      The total employment cost was R174 501 596, or 42% of the NYDA's total budget for that year. Perhaps government can give us some feedback as to how much actual developement of the youth has actually taken place. I mean R360 million plus in costs should mean we must have the best looked after youth in the world.

  • Jamie - 2012-03-14 13:43

    It looks like this bunch don't need any development, they're already fully "up to speed" on how to be Government leechers.

  • Dean - 2012-03-14 13:44

    Corruption has a new home.

  • Xanavin - 2012-03-14 13:47

    I honestly give up. Instead of things improving they getting worst. SA has gone to the dogs.

  • Wim - 2012-03-14 13:48

    Leave the NYDA alone! They are busy learning how to act in an ANC neighborhood where most of the money goes to 'salaries'. Just look at Athletics SA, Cricket SA and other similar organisations where there are ANC cadres. These NYDA guys are hard at work to learn how to say 'Viva' and get money for jam!

  • richard.hipkin - 2012-03-14 13:51

    Also considering that the "Directors" of this youth organisation are actually ANCYL NEC members..

  • phutis - 2012-03-14 13:51

    All these are unfounded and are based on poor politicking by DA Youth.

      Christian J Denyschen - 2012-03-14 13:55

      what would an uneducated ancyl fool like you know?

      Tony Lapson - 2012-03-14 13:57

      Yeah? Explain. Surely the NYDA have nothing to worry about then. Let them provide their full balance sheet and income statement. They should embarrass the DA Youth by requesting a FULL, voluntary audit. Let's do this.

      Squeegee - 2012-03-14 14:01

      hahaha, hahahahahahaha!

      Tshifhiwa - 2012-03-14 14:09

      @Christian how do you tell that he is not educated? is it based on colour?

      Christian J Denyschen - 2012-03-14 14:25

      @steen(of baksteen) Surely someone with brains wouldn't make dumb comments like your friend phutis if all the facts are there in front of him! Or are you also one of those uneducated fools who follows blindly?

      Tshifhiwa - 2012-03-14 14:49

      I have read the article but didn’t see the facts you referring to. would you please highlight the facts you read?

      Tony Lapson - 2012-03-14 14:50

      @christian He is right though. Uneducated is an incorrect term to use. Rather say IGNORANT

      Christian J Denyschen - 2012-03-14 15:06

      Your not helping your case here what facts did I point out. The facts is in the article, did you read and understand the article? I'm not here 2 explain the article 2 u!

      Nkulekweni - 2012-03-14 16:04

      Phutis..I have a confession to make. After reading your comment I had to know where it came from..clicked on your photo and lo and behold...I must say ....the best laugh I've had all week. Could you fit the NYDA stereotype more if you tried?

      piet.strydom - 2012-03-14 22:44

      Ouboet, I would change my profile pic if I were you - titling yourself a programme officer at the NYDA, next to a picture of a disheveled you standing with a champagne glass in the hand... Eish. BTW, it should be "program officer".

  • Kuno - 2012-03-14 13:53

    Total salarycosts of R174 501 596.00 for 453 staff members = to an average salary of R385 213.00 per year. not a bad salary for doing f@#° all.

  • Klaus - 2012-03-14 13:58

    D.A this is your chance to expose cANCer in its youth formation. Follow through and expose! Make new Friends! Prepare your future Voters ! Make sure all cANCer supporters are made aware of this thieving B....strds What i always wanted to know, ANCYL and NYDA what have they done for the unemployed youth?

  • kelvin.strachan - 2012-03-14 14:02

    It must be amazing to be a board member on one of these organisations? Attend a meeting or 2 every month, make a descision or 2 that may or may not work and pass the buck if it doesn't. That'll be 30 grand plus expenses please.

      Rob - 2012-03-14 16:49

      Kelvin...Now, now don't call it 'passing the buck'. it is collective responsibility. And that is just about the most impressive oxymoron I have ever heard of.

  • Nkulekweni - 2012-03-14 14:16

    What does this organisation actually do? What are its achievements? How has it helped the nation in anyway? This is not the way to solve the problem of youth unemployment. Are these the people who cost us millions when attemption to host a youth conference? Are these the people who also cost us millions sending their senior staff to gate crash events to which they were not invited just because those events were held in Europe and not perhaps in Malawi? I vote we disband this band of thieves...there are better, more efficient and more sustainable ways of solving the problem of youth unemployment.

      Marion - 2012-03-14 14:34

      Maybe this is their version of solving the problem of youth unemployment - employ thousands in the NYDA at exorbitant salaries for partying etc.

      Nkulekweni - 2012-03-14 14:42

      I am laughing but I fear you might be right Marion..

  • Remi Du Preez - 2012-03-14 14:21

    Those figures actually make me sick to my stomach considering what an \amazing\ contribution they actually make to society.

  • Gavin - 2012-03-14 14:28

    F me, do they have any vacancies ?

      Juan - 2012-03-14 16:22

      3 Questions 1)Are you black? 2) Can you say "yoof leek"? 3) Do you have connections on the gravy train?

  • David - 2012-03-14 14:42

    Just finished shining my crystal ball, here's tomorrow's news: The NYDA says any attempt to shut down their organisation (the word organisation is used in a very loose sense) is an attempt by counter-revolutionary forces to destroy the jobs and livelihoods of more than 2000 comrads. Attempts to get them to explain and quantify the added value they bring to the economy, was met with: "You bloody agents are stupid. These 2000 comrads get lots of value from your money"

  • Jo - 2012-03-14 14:46

    Money, money it so funny in the anc's world.

  • Andrew Worrall - 2012-03-14 14:52

    What a lotto money!!!

  • tbomelamsomi - 2012-03-14 14:52

    29000 after tax and deductions?

      richard.hipkin - 2012-03-14 15:25

      Doesn't matter, that is still hectically exorbitant..

  • Nyiks11 - 2012-03-14 15:29

    I am all for alleviation of youth unemployment mara bavana ba ba NYDA ba iteboga themselves

  • exile13 - 2012-03-14 15:47

    wtf?! that's my tax money you are wasting!

  • Janette - 2012-03-14 15:49

    Steen--you must be playing the devil's advocate

  • Mart - 2012-03-14 15:50

    The saddest thing of all is that these recipients of our tax money actually think and believe they're worth it !

  • Mtshezi Yonk'insipho Iyawasha Mkhize - 2012-03-14 15:51

    The DA is so correct, ds is one useless Agency, their programs unknown. Damn wasting money like that... What do they evn do?

  • pws69 - 2012-03-14 16:01

    I actually read through the NYDA annual report last year (its available for download from their website). My comments: SOME of the board members are well qualified, but you cannot quantify their value to the organisation from the Financial report. What is disconcerting is the following: 1. Average loan amount provided to start a business: R500. What in HELL are you going to be able to do with R500 to start a business? Conclusion: Money wasted 2. They rate there performance amongst other things on the number of phone calls taken, and the number of walk ins to their centres (remember, the NYDA was created out of an amalgamation of FAILED entities, like the Msimbuvu Fundd (sp)) so had existing centres. No tracking of the effectiveness of either of these. Did any of these call translate into a business? You could get the same advice from your bank (probably better) for free. 3. Almost no mentorship programs (I see this year they are at least trying to attract mentors - unpaid it seems). Basically, the OUTPUT of the NYDA is not measured in any meaningful way.

      Nosiphom - 2012-03-14 16:47

      An I take it you are white ? Because what people like Steen are saying is that only whiteys criticise? Steen - here is the answer on whether or not the NYDA is delivering!

      pws69 - 2012-03-14 16:59

      @Nosiphom, There is definitely a difference between how whites and blacks address an issue in South Africa, but it is narrowing. Whites generally don't seem to "get" public displays of unhappiness i.e. toyi toying in gatherings and groups. It seems to me, and I stand under (massive?) correction here, that blacks generally see whites being vocal on pages such as these, petitions, etc as whinging. I would guess that it comes from our past. But, like I said it is narrowing. More whites seem to be attending strikes/rallies etc, and more blacks seem to be vocalising through forums such as these. The whole oddity of the situation is we get to a point of throwing stones AT each other while we want to achieve the SAME thing. Uniquely South African? I don't know. I'm guessing if we stopped talking AT each other, and instead TO each other, and listened, we would find that elusive common ground very quickly. If we, as South Africans, shared our strengths, instead of using them against each other, we would be unstoppable.

      maseratifittipaldi - 2012-03-14 19:19

      Well said, PWS69. Fully agree.

  • maseratifittipaldi - 2012-03-14 17:22

    The only purpose of the ANCYL and the NYDA is to provide momentum for the ANC. Within these "youth" organisations the members are brainwashed with counterproductive ideology and provided with a life of opulence at the expense of the rest of the citizens of S.A. They get used to the entitlement lifestyle and the attitude of arrogance, nepotism and corruption is amplified. This ANC attitude is then accepted as the norm. These worms don't have to do any work. All they have to do is demand, destroy, and enjoy. The rest of us must pay, and those who can't pay must just shut up. This is the South Africa we voted for?

  • flysouth - 2012-03-14 18:42

    Having utterly failed to actually help create genuine and sustainable employment or opportunity for the youth this shambles of an organisation now turns to just handing out highly-paid so-called jobs! What a sick joke like everything the ANC attempts!

  • Graham - 2012-03-14 21:05

    Am I missing something here? Who is paying them and for what? Who the hell are the NYDA? millions-millions of "new South Africans" are begging on street corners and we are paying layabouts R29000 a month! Really who is authorising this? Even Zim doesn;t sink this low!

  • patrick.ooro - 2012-03-14 21:30

    If the NYDA is to make a change in the lives of the youth, then they need to clearly do something about their salary bill. It is not economically feasible to maintain the growth in their salary bill for an organization that is struggling to deliver services. They should focus on delivering financial assistance to the youth before they look at salary increases. The NYDA can be a useful institution with the right structure. They are too top heavy and have too many "executives".

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