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New - black and young - faces in the DA

2012-11-25 18:46

Johannesburg - DA spokesperson Mmusi Maimane, who has been punted as a future leader of the party, was top of the list of those elected into the party’s leadership on Sunday.

Maimane, who joined the party ahead of last year’s local government elections and who has never contested an internal election before, received the most votes of the nine candidates who contested the three positions of deputy federal chairperson at the party's federal congress in Boksburg, Gauteng.

He was followed by MP Anchen Dreyer, who was re-elected for a second term, and DA Youth leader Makhashule Gana.

They ousted KwaZulu-Natal-based MP Dianne Kohler-Barnard, who campaigned for a second term on the basis that she got the most mentions of all DA MPs in the media, while Western Cape MEC Ivan Meyer stepped down as deputy federal chair to become the party’s DA leader.

All three the new deputy federal chairpersons are from Gauteng, with Maimane and Gana both serving on the party’s caucus in the Johannesburg City Council.

Maimane at a press conference after the elections said the fact that the three of them were based in Gauteng “is a great outcome of this congress” because “it will assist in making sure that increasing our majority in Gauteng is achieved”.

The party is hoping to take Gauteng in 2014.

Maimane’s lobbyists said before congress they hoped that he would position himself to become the party’s leader when Zille steps down.

Divide vote

The election of two black leaders as deputy federal chairpersons has also put paid to fears within the party that the six black candidates standing for the position would divide the vote so much that the party would end up electing only white deputy federal chairpersons.

Late Sunday afternoon James Selfe was unanimously re-elected chairperson of federal executive council and Johannesburg councillor Thomas Walters as his deputy after MP Natasha Michael stepped down. MP Dion George was re-elected chairperson of the party’s federal finance committee.

Party leader Helen Zille, who was the only one nominated for federal chairperson and therefore re-elected unanimously, said in her acceptance speech that she was aware of the “irony” inherent in her unopposed election by a democratic party.

“I am deeply aware of the responsibilities this brings. I interpret this as the congress’s support for our goal of building a new majority at the non-racial centre of South African politics,” she said. “We will work tirelessly to become a party of government across our country.”

Deputy leader


Asked by journalists whether she thought an attempt at congress to change the party’s constitution to make provision for a deputy leader was a vote of no confidence in her, Zille said it was “sad” that the debate centred around that.

MP Masizole Mnqasela, who lost his bid to oust Wilmot James as federal chairperson, proposed the amendment on Saturday night but this was overwhelmingly rejected.

“I’m pretty agnostic about having a deputy or not,” Zille said. She said everyone was worried about the party having “two centres of power” with her being Western Cape premier and Lindiwe Mazibuko being the party’s leader in Parliament.

She said there were also predictions that Cape Town Mayor and ID leader Patricia de Lille’s co-option by the DA would be short-lived because they are both strong leaders.

“Sometimes Patricia and Lindiwe and I have our disagreements, but we talk this out and it does work.”

Zille didn’t rule out the possibility of the party getting a deputy federal chairperson in the near future. “I can’t dictate what people get up and say at a national congress,” she said.

Another term

Zille also didn’t want to say whether she would stay on for another term.

“At our next congress in three years we will all sit down and decide on the names of people to contest to take the party forward and it includes the federal leader of this party, obviously. But the next election will take place in three years’ time, who knows, who knows.”

The party’s constitution was changed over the weekend to lengthen the leadership’s term in office from two to three years.


Comments
  • sabelo.madlala.14 - 2012-11-25 16:48

    Smokes screen idiots

      JohncarlosBiza - 2012-11-25 18:54

      Maimane and Malema are the same age. One has an MBA and is eloquent. The other is a corrupt, uncivilized creature

      Cameron - 2012-11-25 19:03

      annoyed that people are starting to see the truth about the anc....shamepies

      brad.ken.18 - 2012-11-25 19:11

      FANTASTIC! Bitterness by the sheep! A massive BLUE wave, will engulf from the WC all the way up to the Limpopo River! DEMOCRACY!!!! No thieving, lying, polygamists in a modern society, will thieve, lie and whore around with our children, and theirs, and their! DEMOCRACY PREVAILS! GREED, IS DISGUSTING!!! VIVA DA, VIVA!!!!!!

      sylvia.shaw.7 - 2012-11-25 19:19

      ANC, be afraid, be very afraid.

      mark.page.923171 - 2012-11-25 19:46

      Eish Sabelo, don't be so bitter. Join the new Black, which is BLUE! It is also the new White, the new Coloured the new Indian, and everyone hoping and wishing for a brighter future.

      irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-11-25 19:47

      @sabelo ~ No, wrong again! Bright youth who can see what filth cANCer is. Free thinking, not sheeple.

      irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-11-25 19:48

      @gert.swart ~ That's rich coming from you who is continually saying the DA is a whites-only party. Proved wrong again and now you try and turn it into a racial issue. Shame, poor creature that you are.

      pierre.nortje.581 - 2012-11-25 20:02

      I see you work for the hopeless Robben Island bankrupt and hopeless Park ... How on earth can you post here being the custodian of abolutely nothing -at least there were tar roads when Mandela left the island - now it is imbicile city looking at Table Mountain ... Cry the beloved country in reverse ...

      godfrey.welman - 2012-11-25 20:35

      @Jackie...Maiamane is well educated and therefore does not need BEE or tenders, which attracts the youth to anc.

      LiveYourOwnLife - 2012-11-26 06:22

      Wahahahahahahahah! Sabelo you are in no position to call anyone idiots.

      handy.andy.3990 - 2012-11-26 08:20

      @Sabelo - Join the DA, we like to use our taxes to pay for houses for the poor, not the president! We like roads with no potholes and textbooks for school kids. We dont like buying 750iL's for ministers, but support better public transport. How does that sound to you? Keen?

      garth.bellingan.1 - 2012-11-26 09:15

      You should be used to smoke, sitting around a fire in the dust. IDIOT.

      merven.halo - 2012-11-26 09:24

      Sadly the ANC will never accept defeat. We will follow the general African way of civil war.

      djmain1 - 2012-11-26 11:09

      The DA is coming for you. Boo! :) Phantsi cANCer, phantsi!!

      ralph.zieg - 2012-11-26 11:14

      Hey Sabelo. I see your Facebook profile pic shows you in a typical ANC workplace pose, namely lying back on a lounger chatting on your phone but otherwise f. all else. Is this perhaps the reason for the extreme success of the Robben Island Heritage Site??? I am in fact more surprised to hear anyone still works there given the state it is in and its finances, but I suppose as long as there is money to pay salaries, who cares about actually running it properly, right? Also, regarding some of the posts below, don't worry about joining the DA. I am sure they can do without your input!

      denice.richardts - 2012-11-26 11:53

      you are the idiot, idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      itumeleng.mogaki - 2012-11-26 12:37

      I will tell you this much, most educated 'black people' gosh I hate labels, are changing their mindsets and of many of ther families and communities, not to focus and vote for one party that today is living large but it's people are still poor. Change is coming, not now but soon enough.

      ryan.v.linde.3 - 2012-11-26 12:40

      @sabelo - what you been smoking?

      Thandeka2Luv - 2012-11-26 14:24

      Was there a need to reduce the headline to race?

      edward.patterson.923 - 2012-11-26 15:52

      Why do you say smoke screen? What evidence do you have?

      edward.patterson.923 - 2012-11-26 15:55

      @gert swart. Do you read the news? Do you read the comments on this site? The ANC and many on this site accuse the DA of being a "white" party. Of course they will make sure that SA knows that new young black people are part of the leadership

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-11-26 21:53

      gerhard swart, in case you have no idea, the DA must wow black voters if it has to govern the country. Without a significant black vote, it will never govern and reverse the rot. If you find that unpalatable, feel free to fall for Die Boeremag's charms and see how far that gets you

      sterling.ferguson.397 - 2012-11-27 04:10

      This guy will be the next Obama of SA and he is educated like him. The people around the world don't want to hear slogans and not actions.

      neels.biermann - 2012-11-27 11:10

      Well done DA, they have relised even tho its a sad fact but most of the people in this country vote on race. So lets at least give the people a competent black person.

      greg.quinn.353 - 2012-11-27 11:40

      Not meaning to be racist or anything, but having a black face as the face of the DA may bode very well for the party. I think a big issue the DA has is that Helen is the 'face' of the party, the masses see this, and think of apartheid and the 'white madam' syndrome.

      morris.khunou - 2012-11-27 19:56

      Dont be detered Matlala! Research has shown. 1. These numbers only reciprocate from the 33% of opposition vote! DA eats from smaller parties which are undemocratic and led by despots! 2. Many who joins these parties will leave them as fast as they joined when opportunity avails itself! 3. Many of them cannot be trusted with their votes as family/community/peer influence is more stronger than party influence! 4. ANC is growing 1000 fold than all the opposition parties combined. When we exert our ANC magic they will come as fast as flies attracted to light! ANC is in the blood of people and will continue to be!

      morris.khunou - 2012-11-27 20:04

      All this turn down Seabelo means nothing more than you got them at the right place. Have you ever found where cocroaches hide? You get excited that you will doom them with less effort!

      christoffvstaden - 2012-12-01 22:08

      Will be great to have decent roads in JHB again! Truly hope the DA will take over JHB in the next election!

      balan.morgen - 2012-12-02 17:33

      Phansi sabelo phansi anc phansi cancer

      francismusiwalo.ngwana - 2012-12-11 10:04

      My GOD guess who's one of the idiots if we take Maimane from the picture.

  • chris.phago - 2012-11-25 18:11

    Viva Democratic Alliance vivaviva

      sylvia.shaw.7 - 2012-11-25 19:19

      100% with you, Chris.

      art5SA - 2012-11-26 06:50

      Don't you guys find it strange that ALL TAX PAYERS belong to the DA? ALL the "TAX SPENDERS/WASTERS" are members of the ANC!

      maylani.bezuidenhout - 2012-11-26 09:54

      Take a good look at our future president peeps! Mmusi Maimane has got what it takes!

      gert.swart.393 - 2012-11-27 00:10

      @chris.phago - Another whitey posing as a black DA supporter! Pathetic!

      morris.khunou - 2012-11-27 20:08

      Stolen slogan + stolen vote + Stolen identity = Lost

  • Lesiba - 2012-11-25 18:20

    Maimane i support u win and i fully believe u will apply a black blind to the policies of da for better not to suit n benefits whites only.

      Duncan Colter - 2012-11-25 19:06

      Rather colour blind. Equal benefit for all South Africans

      jonivdw - 2012-11-25 19:29

      @lesiba have you actually bothered to read the policies? You'd be very pleasantly surprised how colour blind they already are! I'd move for Mmusi anyday! He's soo awesome and easy to chat to! Viva DA!

      jonivdw - 2012-11-25 19:30

      Damn autocorrect move = vote

      LiveYourOwnLife - 2012-11-26 06:24

      Lesiba if you can find a DA policy that benefits only whites I'll give you all the money that the ANC has stolen and you can live like a royal for the rest of your life.

      lorain.maseko - 2012-11-26 06:49

      @ kagiso.booi - He is a far better person thqn malema will ever be that's for sure,speaking of track reacords what's Malema's ?

      handy.andy.3990 - 2012-11-26 08:22

      Which part of the DA policies are there for the "whites"?

      peter.jefferies.90 - 2012-11-26 08:50

      @Kagiso what has the ANC done for South Africa? What has the ANCYL done for South AFrica? Nothing!!! A 2 year old could do a better job of running a country then the ANC. And and a 2 year old would be much less corrupt then the ANC and ANCYL

      darryn.lahner - 2012-11-26 10:02

      Kagiso - The budget - yes it is a very good budget but there are the following "SLIGHT" problems..... it is a budget! I would be surprised if 30% of what gets allocated by the budget ACTUALLY gets spent on what is intended. Well we all know what happens to the rest. I fyou actually paid tax I think you should be very concerned as to how "actual" spending gets correlated to the budget. As for a democracy.... well the majority wants ANC which is all free and fair but the problem is that the ANC is a racist organisation and has merely reinstated apartheid under its own terms and devious ways. This is also not a democracy where minority groups have no say and are told to sit down and "shut up" when they ask "inconvenient" questions.

      morris.khunou - 2012-11-27 20:12

      How can you be 100% sure of Lesiba's vote! Judging from quality of comments, these are open votes up for anyones grap!

  • tiaan.vanderberg.75 - 2012-11-25 19:05

    Mr Maimane if you ever become the leader of the DA , I will be the first one to vote for you. Congratulations you deserve it.

      jeremy.forbes.1293 - 2012-11-25 20:50

      YES, HOW WONDERFUL THIS WOULD BE AND I DO HOPE THAT COMMENTATORS ON N24 WILL REALISE THAT THOUSANDS OF POTENTIAL DA VOTERS ARE READING THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS. PLEASE KINDLY TEMPER WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY AND THINK HOW YOUR VIEWS WOULD BE UNDERSTOOD BY PEOPLE NOT OF YOUR SKIN COLOUR. WE LIVE IN AN INFORMATION DRIVEN AGE, ELECTIONS ARE WON THROUGH IT.

      tiaan.vanderberg.75 - 2012-11-25 21:36

      Jeremy, I am so glad you are saying this. All of us reading and commenting here are clearly by definition interested in our countrys politics. I am sometimes ashamed of the blatant racist and rude remarks made here. How wil anyone ever convince another reader of his or her opinion if you start off by attacking their intellect, race, beliefs, culture and gender. Steoreotyping on this site is thrive. And it is so unfortunate because it really does nothing for our country. If the readers want to say for instance Malema is a fool, Iet it be. But that doesnt mean all blacks or all ANC members are fools. For exactly the same reason I dont want be attributed the same intellectual capacity or moral values as Marthinus van Schalkwyk or Eugene Terblanche or Braivick or Hitler because I am white. If you dont agree say it but please dont generalize. if we cant respect each other how the hell will we ever make this place work. Let us spread kindness and hope!

      barnie.huysamer - 2012-11-25 21:39

      @jeremy. Agree 100%. Tks

      jmlongwe - 2012-11-26 13:01

      @jeremy thanks, for once someone who gets it. Do you know how many non-DA supporters read these things. Calling others 'sheeple' wont win the DA any favours. Dont be your worst enemy.

  • dewaldt.duplessis.5 - 2012-11-25 19:08

    Now see people this is how a democracy should work! Helen Zille is not scared to step down as party leader, she is just waiting for the right time to do so. The DA is full of capable leaders. I will support each and every one no matter who it is. I like the iron ladies of the DA: Zille,Mazibuko and de Lille. DA is taking us forward leading us to a better corrupt free future. You will all see when the DA takes power how the economy will start booming again and services shall be delivered. Keep up DA we are all behind you.

      jeremy.forbes.1293 - 2012-11-25 21:02

      The next election will finally show how disgusted the black middle class is with the ANC. People who have tasted success and are building a future for their families are truly fearful of a chaotic future of poverty for all and wealth for the few corrupt politicians. Folks build alliances with other middle class people across the colour divide. Connect with them socially, commercially and in any other possible ways. We need to drive change through class alliances not colour. The black middle class is growing massively, they will have a strong impact on how their relatives whom they financially support in the townships will vote. JZ has already alienated this powerful group by calling them disdainfully "clever blacks". They are now looking for a new political home.

      dewaldt.duplessis.5 - 2012-11-25 22:41

      Jeremy.forbes I can't agree more. You have hit the nail on the head. I have questioned some of the black youth and more senior blacks on who they support. I thought they are going to say Julius Malema or Jacob Zuma. But it was not the case they said DA I almost fell on my back because I couldn't believe it. I shook their hands because I knew that there is hope for South Africa after all.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-11-26 08:39

      @Kagiso, dude seriously, I'm having a good laugh at your logic here. You live so in your own little made up world that you actually believe that your opinions are fact..

      peter.jefferies.90 - 2012-11-26 08:55

      @Kagiso keep posting dude, with every idiotic post you make you turn another person to the DA!! Keep on posting!!

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-11-26 09:12

      Kagiso booi So black and coloured people only vote for those that pay the highest wages?. I NEVER knew that. Oh and let me enlighten you. Zille can only build houses on land she gets from the government. So what do you propose, she start a revolution?.

      darryn.lahner - 2012-11-26 10:11

      Kagiso - What about the open air toilets in the Freestate with no walls? Is that not ANC led? What about the ANC letting millions of migrant workers flood the country and drive the wages lower because they are desperate to live because their own failed, BLACK states have collapsed... (Zimbobwe, Nigeria, DRC etc etc etc) Jesus is coming!

      75sibusisomhlongo - 2012-11-26 14:46

      dewaldt.duplessis, if u ask ur domestic workers who they support they will say Zille because they have to protect their jobs. u know if they say Zuma or Malema u will fire them without a hearing.

      wo0two0t - 2012-11-26 16:35

      @75sibusisomhlongo - yeah and that is why he wears his DA T-shirt and campaigns for them in his community. While the ANC hooligans go ape threating to kill them because they are traitors. Show maturity much?

  • pws69 - 2012-11-25 19:09

    With Maimane and Gana, the DA WILL win GP in 2014. I cannot wait.

  • ben.spreeth - 2012-11-25 19:17

    Without racism S.Africa will be a better place for all. This is exactly what the D.A. is trying to achieve. Any racists in any political party be it D.A. or A.N.C. should abstain from voting.

  • Montagnes.Bleues - 2012-11-25 19:18

    Impressive step towards a fresh inclusive South Africa

      tiaan.vanderberg.75 - 2012-11-25 20:09

      For sure!

  • goodguy.buthelezi - 2012-11-25 19:24

    Yawn.. so this is your strategy..Putting black faces in front hopping to win elections in return.. You know what your problem is.. you think you are clever.. your plan wont work.. it wont..it wont..

      UMvelase - 2012-11-25 19:28

      Rather say it might just not work. I think it might just work.

      ronnie.letshabo - 2012-11-25 19:39

      It might work, I have been listening to people around me and they are frustated and angry with the ruling party. Fact DA is going to get lot of votes due to anger people have towards ANC. We need a strong opposition to strengthen our democracy.

      julio.sanfona - 2012-11-25 20:38

      It may work or it may not. The fact is that the DA's policies are sound and there is no history of corruption, nepotism and bad governance in the WC and municipalities that they run. The same cannot be said about your ANC.

      rontheogre - 2012-11-26 00:01

      Goodguy, did that sound like a desperate prayer?

      maylani.bezuidenhout - 2012-11-26 09:57

      Nobody is putting anyone anywhere... They were elected fair and square on their own merit and skills.

      dl.moore.169 - 2012-11-26 13:02

      @goodguy, LOL you guys say the DA is non-inclusive, that it's a party for the whites, a party vir die wit baas en die wit madam and therefore not a progressive party you can get behind, and then as soon as the party itself completely rubbishes that rubbish with its internal elections, you switch your tune and say, "Ja, well, no, fine, but that's just window-dressing." Get real.

      magda.harmse - 2012-11-26 14:17

      goodguy, please my man educate yourself... DA is a party for one and all... Equality in SA is what is needed and they will provide... Whether the people are Brown, White, Yellow, Green or even Purple.. The colour of the people shouldn't matter it is what they strive for and what they believe is best for this country.

      alexandra.robertson.969 - 2012-11-27 12:09

      @YoungBlackAndAngry - I am pretty sure that the "white media" did not build Soweto...

  • mshiniboys - 2012-11-25 19:30

    New era tiptoeing nearer.

  • koos.dabulamanzi - 2012-11-25 19:33

    DA u restoring our hope for Democracy there are a lot of us young Africans by tht i mean black white,coloured,Indians who want real democracy not what we see frm the current government Viva DA Viva

      beverly.young3 - 2012-11-25 21:09

      I was so entranced with his speech and seeing him talk that I FORGOT to look at his colour...is that a prerequisite? I simply saw a person who excited me with his passion and ideas.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-11-26 09:16

      Kagiso booi. Who is challenging Jacob Zuma?.

      maylani.bezuidenhout - 2012-11-26 10:02

      Not even the ANC woman's league has a candidate of their own! Pathetic.

      dl.moore.169 - 2012-11-26 13:11

      Kagiso, sometimes a leader can actually be that good. I know it might be hard for you to imagine a scenario where a leader runs unopposed simply through their quality of leadership and not through vote buying, vote rigging, fraud, intimidation and corruption, but it does happen out there in the real world.

  • Brian Radebe Dorning - 2012-11-25 19:41

    Well done DA, thanks for not being racist like the ANC, oppressing us the minority.

  • Chadwynn Karsten - 2012-11-25 19:42

    No matter if the DA's leader is white, black, coloured or asian, male or female, as long as their motives and ambitions are for the better of our country and continue to fight for a fair, transparent government, as long as voting for them demonstrates a true reflection of democracy and as long as they provide an option which would have a better sense in managing hard earned tax money, they will continue to receive my vote.

  • pierre.nortje.581 - 2012-11-25 19:53

    " .... while Western Cape MEC Ivan Meyer stepped down as deputy federal chair to become the party’s DA leader ..." Huh???

      markus.andersson.129 - 2012-11-26 03:14

      Yeah, that was a funny part of this article lol. Meyer is the new Western Cape DA leader. I think the article also calls Zille "Federal Chairperson" at one point: her position is however Federal Leader. Wilmot is the Chairperson.

  • siyabonga.mbuthuma - 2012-11-25 19:55

    The day we have an African DA leader, that is the day you will see a New DA (NDA) being formed to fight aginst DA, just like what we see with NFP IFP. Very few Whites who can serve under BLack leadership

      PointBlank - 2012-11-25 20:07

      glad to see you have embraced your racism

      michael.jackwood - 2012-11-25 20:11

      Siyabonga, that is the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, DA supporters, especially those who are found here at news24 will leave DA, they are actually fronting Lindiwe Mazibuko, thats why Lindiwe can not openly disagree with madam as we see in democratic parties like ANC where a minister can hold a different view againts the president and still remain a minister, Lindiwe can be fired right on the spot, that is the day she will look for ANC nearest branch.

      irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-11-25 20:33

      @michael.jackwood ~ Shame, another brainwashed sheep. Do you enjoy people stealing from you or don't you pay tax?

      aiazmir - 2012-11-25 21:06

      Cynicism is so sad. It mirrors a lack of being able to accept oneself and that you actually create the world you live in. You hide from truth, take on a victim mentality and blame everything and everyone else except yourself. Shame man, can I help you guys, I'm a psychiatrist. You need some Prozac.

      tiaan.vanderberg.75 - 2012-11-25 21:10

      I can. My wife can. My mother says shes ok with it. I think you will be surprised!

      francoisjacques.malan - 2012-11-25 21:42

      @michael.jackwood, yes just like Barbara Hogan didn't agree with Zuma about Dalai Lama, where is she now? Still a minister? cANCer is a dictatorship!

      rontheogre - 2012-11-26 00:06

      Michael, check your FACTS. Every time a ANC member of parliament voted against or abstained in voting for a ANC backed policy or motion, that person was publicly admonished, or fired, or investigated or re-deployed.

      jonivdw - 2012-11-26 07:15

      You'd be very surprised! I'd happily follow Lindiwe, Wilmot & Mmusi! Remember those whites that can't already follow FF not that it gets them anywhere! You'd be very surprised how many of us don't actually give a fig about race, we just want a government that benefits all, a government that is efficient & actually delivers services without wasting or stealing taxpayers money. The more the current government steals the less services they provide.... It's quiet logical!

      surfing.sam.9 - 2012-11-26 07:20

      That is how stupid you are not to get that the government is here to serve us, we should not serve the government, FFS, wake up you tool.

      heidi.pierce.12 - 2012-11-26 07:30

      Really? How about the whole of USA? Univ of Freestate? How about all the whites who voted out apartheid? How about me. I would really not mind as long as it is a person of integrity and competence. I would not even think to mind.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-11-26 09:22

      Siyabonga.mbuthuma. Do you stand in front of the mirror daily shouting I am a racist?. Or do you just write something stupid for the sake of being stupid?.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-11-26 09:27

      Michael Jackwood. Most people here are adults, take your childish murmurings elsewhere. The madam has a name Helen Zille, people with manners call her that, you obviously don't belong in that department.

      talana.malherbe - 2012-11-26 12:01

      Oh Siyabonga, I would rather follow Mmusi or Lindiwe under DA than anybody under FF, its all got to do with what they stand for. Other than you I am not a racist!

      dl.moore.169 - 2012-11-26 13:23

      If you had actually read some of the comments here from whites, you would realize how stupid that comment is, Siyabonga.

      tersia.louw.12 - 2012-11-26 15:15

      Helen Zille is an African DA leader. Oh, sorry - you mean black DA leader. Racist git.

      handy.andy.3990 - 2012-11-27 17:00

      @michael.jackwood - you mean like in the ANC. Where people can take on Zuma for his corrupt and criminal lifestyle? Please...

      morris.khunou - 2012-11-27 20:19

      Spot on Siyabonga! DA has never passed a single test! All these stollen votes will come rolling back to where they belong! I have no sleepless nights about that! Some where given second grade white woman to marry as part of the smoke screening!

  • Dave - 2012-11-25 20:06

    Mr Maimane is the face of the future for this country, better get used to it anc....

  • Mbuso Siera - 2012-11-25 20:12

    New -'Black' nd young -Faces...DA..... Black faces anyway they r just benefiting their political careers ....since they have seen there is room for that in the DA.....it does not mean they r not..or will never be corrupt.....

      brian.exmachina - 2012-11-25 21:43

      Are you implying that all blacks are corrupt... if so, I'm confused. Listen, if you actually followed these people's political careers you'd be impressed by them. You've clearly never been to a DA rally, you'd be shocked. The DA is a party for everybody. Unlike the ANC, who is basically the National Party with the roles reversed, only more corrupt, less competent and even less rational.

      rontheogre - 2012-11-26 00:07

      Mbuso, not a glowing testimony from you for the integrity of black people. The ANC has made you a cynic, I see.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-11-26 09:30

      Mbuso Siera, So you expect black politicians to be corrupt?

  • Simon Maabe - 2012-11-25 20:15

    It's clear, we're coming in... Enough with a party that does not have interests of basic needs and leadership...

      Havokreeka - 2012-11-26 10:41

      Yeah, there's hope for South Africa! I for one don't care what colour politicians are, as long as they do a good job.

  • abdul.cassiem.9 - 2012-11-25 20:27

    Wow!!!am readin all these comments an t ANC supporters r realy sad people it seems thy will TKE losin very hard. People change r comin b happy everyone will benefit nobody wil b left behind AND if u r not happy wth t DA thrs always 2019 peace.Hope everyone hve a great week.Sorry Alonzo from a die hard Ferrari fan

  • marcellecarmel.booysen - 2012-11-25 20:31

    City Press I don't like your heading new, black and young. You see in the DA we don't think or talk race. To us all South Africans is equal. no matter race colour or creed. VIVA DA VIVA!!

      sphala - 2012-11-27 13:04

      Realy? Booysen,why mention the colour if you don't see or think race,you should be ashamed of your pathetic comment.

      morris.khunou - 2012-11-27 20:27

      Marcel you are like a Lion trying to trick its prey!

  • Malose-Nyatlo - 2012-11-25 20:55

    The strides made by the DA are impressive. When Leon was replaced by Zille me thought the party would die a natural death, but I have been proven wrong. Zille has turned the party around, gave it youthful energy and put it on the path to being a meaningful oppostion to the ANC government. Well done Zille, you might get more than what you bargained for in the next election.

      merven.halo - 2012-11-26 10:47

      Jip, Zille is a woman with steel balls...

      morris.khunou - 2012-11-27 20:23

      Thank you Merven for confirming my suspition! I wonder if she is also Inkwekwe!

  • danie.malan - 2012-11-25 20:57

    Mmusi Maimane is the man of the future! Intelligent, well-conversed and a real leader to take SA into the future!

      maylani.bezuidenhout - 2012-11-27 09:48

      Well maybe that's what you need young, black and angry - go make nice milo babies with a pretty little Afrikaans girl and then you won't be so angry or racist any more.

  • alwyn.vantonder - 2012-11-25 21:00

    CONGRATULATIONS! They are the hope of South Africa! Now, let's kick the trash ANC out of Gauteng!

  • thenjiwe.sindi - 2012-11-25 21:05

    Mazibuko,Maimane are beneficiaries of the anc policy of affirmative action.we know lindiwe has failed to be opera singer and used her closeness to Zille to rise in d DA and she owes her political career to Zille.she is patronised,she won to b leader of parliament because she s woman,black and because Zille threatened d rest.tell m which experience and capacity? She s patronised

      brian.exmachina - 2012-11-25 21:51

      Does it hurt to see people so capable and hard working be elected as leaders in a party on merit? Does it hurt that the DA is doing what the ANC cannot?

      thenjiwe.sindi - 2012-11-26 06:15

      To speak good english doesn't mean you are a good politician

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-11-26 09:40

      Thenjiwe.sindi. Do you really believe the crap you just wrote?.

      Havokreeka - 2012-11-26 10:46

      No, english doesn't make a good politician, but delivering on promises does. Something the DA do and the ANC fail to do.

      dl.moore.169 - 2012-11-26 16:55

      And, thenjiwe.sindi, how many out there in the ANC's vaulted and not-so-vaulted echelons of power owe their political careers to nepotism, cronyism and mutual backslapping? How many has Zuma given a leg-up to in his time, including, for a time, Malema? At least Zille's political relationship with Lindiwe Mazibuko is open and above-board and not predicated on nefarious double-dealing and backstabbing, the former of which has created a dynamic opposition duo, the latter of which has created a stupid, negative power struggle. And in any case, it's often the case that junior politicians are groomed and developed by senior politicians. How else do they learn? So, I don't really understand your point.

      handy.andy.3990 - 2012-11-27 17:04

      You are so right, good English does not make you a good politician. Can you just elaborate for me on Jacob Zuma's credentials and qualifications (to save time you can leave out his struggle and criminal credentials, because neither of those make you a good president either).

  • iwillemse - 2012-11-25 21:13

    blacks in the DA ,is the end of whites in SA, apartheid we wil neva 4 get.

      Grant Davis - 2012-11-25 21:19

      Never forget ,just forgive. The people who stood for apartheid have all died of old age.

      nombuso.n.mtshali.1 - 2012-11-25 23:12

      You want black people to vote for DA instead of ANC. When we get involved with DA you say its the end of white people. You are confused!! What do you want exactly?

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-11-26 09:41

      Iwillemse. Another racist trying to make out he is old enough to remember apartheid.

      Havokreeka - 2012-11-26 10:49

      Nombuso. iwillemse is a coloured guy by looks of it. From what I can tell, he's not too smart either.

      handy.andy.3990 - 2012-11-27 17:06

      Nice profile pic for a racist.

  • kwenzekile.madiba - 2012-11-25 21:17

    So politics is about black and young in south africa

      richard.hipkin - 2012-11-26 08:42

      Yes. Duh!!

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-11-26 09:43

      Kwenzekile. madiba. No politics is about honesty and integrity. It's a a shame that only the young seem to have that.

      Havokreeka - 2012-11-26 10:50

      It's about free t-shirts, berets and fried chicken actually.

      handy.andy.3990 - 2012-11-27 17:07

      It seems to have something to do with it. Almost like the black and old leadership of the ANC.

  • Grant Davis - 2012-11-25 21:24

    Jack wood lets wait for the report. Just have integrity And change your vote if its true... Deal??

  • themba.nsele.71 - 2012-11-25 21:38

    I will rather vote for devil that I know then the devil that I do not know. This is very cheap fronting which is alredy applied in the BEE deals. Blacks must not be fulled. Blacks please wake up and protect what our heros fought for.

      mmotsamai - 2012-11-25 23:38

      What did they fight for? A singing and dancing zulu who gave his nephew a mine worth billions, who gets a wife every year, who used our tax money to build a lodge, who openly said he had sex wit an h i v woman wit no condom, and he still has an arms deal in the bag. I can go on about his friends and those anc ministers but i wont, just shut up and go read a book just to see what they fought for

      jaco.prinsloo.37 - 2012-11-26 09:10

      @mmotsamai. You could not have said it any better!

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-11-26 09:48

      Themba.nsele71. Your heroes fought for freedom for all. They didn't fight to make a few putrid individuals rich and powerful. If you want to sell your soul to those kind of devils, then be my guest.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-11-26 09:49

      mmotsamai. Thank you.

      handy.andy.3990 - 2012-11-27 17:09

      @mmotsamai - can the Devil we don't know be worse than what you just described? I guess only if he is called Hitler, Saddam, Bob or Idi!

  • Mbuso Siera - 2012-11-25 22:15

    Viva ANC Viva....day dream DA day dream....until Zille is buried.....nd the blacks in the DA fight for the top position Zille is occupying...

      rontheogre - 2012-11-26 00:16

      Still praying for a lost cause?

      paul.duplessis - 2012-11-26 07:49

      The true acid test - what Steve Biko would have said about the ANC today - and he gave his life for it! Rather than commenting here Mbuso I would be quiet and hang my head in shame if I were you.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-11-26 09:51

      Mbuso Siera. Read about Steve Biko, that was one black man we all could have been proud of. It is a loss that he was murdered.

      handy.andy.3990 - 2012-11-27 17:12

      @Mbuso- which part of the ANC are you so excited about? The tax money they miss-appropriated, the e-toll system, the R240m house of the president. The expensive cars for ministers, the lack of text books in schools, the denial of HIV, the state of the hospitals, the 2m people in SA without sanitation? should i go on or do you get the picture...?

      mike.bundy.73 - 2012-11-27 20:29

      @paul.duplessis: Steve Biko was a great man with great ideals but he was not an anc member and did not give his life for it.

  • 75sibusisomhlongo - 2012-11-25 22:16

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  • elsie.palmer.90 - 2012-11-25 22:55

    From what I read there are some black people keeping apartheid alive (a person an forgive and slowly forget),,,,to move forward forget the past and learn from it.

  • sifiso.buthelezi.923 - 2012-11-25 23:06

    Why are we keeping on refering to one another as black or white, especially those I thought they fought against racism. Can't we be colour blind and contribute towards rebuilding our country.

      miandra.vanzyl - 2012-11-25 23:31

      Amen to that. Why must I still fill in forms in this country where I must mark White, Black, Indian, Coloured or other? I fill in other or leave it open! Is this for BEE??

      piet.motsoeneng - 2012-11-26 05:50

      I thimk News24 have realised that if you bring race to a topic it gets a lot reaction hence the topic that refers to race. News24 is promoting what we are trying to stop. If people have names why should tey be reffered to as blacks or whites? This is not right.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-11-26 09:58

      Sifiso.buthelesi.923. Colour means nothing to me, but I dislike stupid racists who have no knowledge and yet spew their opinions here. As far as I am concerned we are all South Africans, some just a bit lighter than others. Rebuilding our country was on the agenda, till the thieves decided otherwise.

  • winston.jan - 2012-11-25 23:06

    ANC,DA,COPE and other parties, Please convince me why should I vote for You while people are suffering? I hate to see people suffering.... No moral value in RSA?

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-11-26 09:59

      Winston.jan. Moral values in South Africa went out the window when fat cats started to steal.

      Havokreeka - 2012-11-26 11:08

      Because the ANC are causing their suffering, give the DA 1 term in power and you'll see the difference.

  • dewaldt.duplessis.5 - 2012-11-25 23:26

    News 24 se editors pis my af! Hoekom word my en ander se kommentaar verwyder as ons net goed praat van die DA maar al die rasistiese ANC bliksems se kommentaar bly? Praat van dubbele standaarde neh. Lyk my news24 hou daarvan om rasse haat aan te vuur! Al wat ek gaan se is DA is Suid-Afrika se toekoms vorentoe of julle nou daarvan hou of nie. Die ANC het hulle kans gehad maar het misluk!

      danie.malan - 2012-11-25 23:56

      VIVA DA!!

      werner.pretorius.12 - 2012-11-27 18:07

      Dewaldt jy het seker net n verkeerde knoppie gedruk, want News 24 is DA. Hul sal nooit n positiewe DA boodskap nie laat verskyn nie. Hul doen dan juis hul bes vd DA. Jy het seker per ongeluk delete gedruk.

  • dali.mpofu.9 - 2012-11-25 23:59

    Please read a reply of cde Andrew Mlangeni to Kay Sexwale dated 25 November 2012 at Politicalweb. May be you be blessed to know why you should vote ANC.

  • ClaytonBurne - 2012-11-26 00:43

    Morgan Freeman applied some very basic logic to the race issue (Google   - YouTube Video). How about white people stop referring to black people as 'black' and vice versa? Not necessarily problem solved, but it would go a long way to getting people to think a little before they spoke generally about something as trivial as skin colour.

  • mfanafuthi.mhlungu - 2012-11-26 00:47

    Dom allience is trying every dirty trick on a book 2 trick black ppl, bt they wll neva succeed bcause they are a racist party

      LanfearM - 2012-11-26 11:11

      Hahaha! It is the ANC that is "tricking black people"! Lying to the people, stealing from the people, doing nothing for the people, keeping the people uneducated so that they will continue to believe the ANC lies and vote for them. Open your eyes, wake up.

      dl.moore.169 - 2012-11-26 17:07

      That "racist party" fought tooth and nail for your rights as the Progressive Party, the Progressive Reform Party, and the Progressive Federal Party before becoming the Democratic Alliance. Some of the greatest anti-apartheid leaders of our time, including including Jan Steytler, Helen Suzman, Zach de Beer, Colin Eglin, Frederik van Zyl Slabbert and Harry Schwarz, fought for your rights in that "racist party" while several prominent cadres partied it up overseas. That "racist party's" current leader, Helen Zille, was a journalist who helped expose the truth behind Steve Biko's death. So I think it's time you hit the books regarding that "racist party" who fought for your rights at the potential expense of their own safety and their families' before you open your mouth about them again in a public forum.

      handy.andy.3990 - 2012-11-27 17:15

      @dl.moore.169 I think you lost him at "books"....

  • patric.badugela - 2012-11-26 02:09

    Hellen,your party has shown cofidence in you.now go out there and make meaning contribution to betterment of life of s africans

      handy.andy.3990 - 2012-11-27 17:17

      Thats it? Open toilets? That what you come up with? (also remember the ANC started that and built them everywhere). So the ANC steal, corrupt, lie, oppress people by not educating them, and you can up with open toilets. Whats next, complaining about the bus lanes in CT.

  • mawandewonderman.mkuba - 2012-11-26 03:16

    Its called fronting. Ever heard of the word?

      douglas.reid.921 - 2012-11-26 04:51

      You sir should chat to the madams tea girl and tell her she's fronting. Ha ha, she will give you hot tongue and a warm klap and put you in your place once and for all wonderman

      garth.bellingan.1 - 2012-11-26 09:26

      Your Political Party are past masters at fronting, Malema and co and Tendertrepeneurs all front their business dealings and make millions out of you

      dl.moore.169 - 2012-11-26 18:23

      If by fronting, you mean a group of intelligent, bright, future leaders of this country freely choosing the party that puts the rights of all South Africans before corruption, gravy-training, self-serving disconnection from the populace and overt, naked greed, then, ja, I have heard of that word.

      maylani.bezuidenhout - 2012-11-27 10:18

      I don't think he has to front. Unlike Malema and company Mmusi doesn't need to use his position to make money... Some interesting info for you: Born in Soweto South Africa Mmusi is the Deputy Federal Chair and National Spokesperson of the Democratic Alliance. In March 2011 he was nominated as the Democratic Alliance's mayoral candidate for the City of Johannesburg. Maimane is a business consultant and trainer with a number of firms in South Africa and internationally. He also lectures at the GIBS Business Institute. He chairs a number of NGO boards and is actively involved in foundations that are primarily focused on HIV/AIDS, Youth Development and Rural Development. Maimane holds a Masters degree in Theology. He is studying towards a second Masters degree in Public Administration.

      handy.andy.3990 - 2012-11-27 17:17

      Yes, the ANC invented it and called it BEE/ AA.

  • douglas.reid.921 - 2012-11-26 04:46

    What we need is strong opposition cause then the ANC can be forced to deliver to the people and not just the elite royalty. We also need to stop supporting the Zulu royalty. This is nearly a 20 year old democracy, royalty and tribalism must cease.

  • piet.motsoeneng - 2012-11-26 06:04

    News24 seems to have realised that using eace card sparks a fierce debate and keeps people clued to their website. I fail to understand why if they know the names of people who were elected they would refer to them as black

      piet.motsoeneng - 2012-11-26 06:22

      I dont know why News 24 cut my comment. But I was saying why would they be reffered to as black and young faces. It sounds like some unexpected achievement by DA. DA is a political party n South Africa and majority of its population its black people. So it would be expected that there would be black peoplw elected in some positions. So, I dont understand why they find the heading of this article attractive. I thought when results are announced the discussion would be centred around their ability to lead not the colour of their skin. Unless News24 enjoys seeing people deating along racial lines. I think this is pathetic to say the least.

      Msika - 2012-11-26 09:09

      My thoughts as well. Isn't there tribunal or commision where one can report or lodge a complain about issues like this? Something like the BCCSA.

      piet.motsoeneng - 2012-11-26 10:00

      Not that I know of. It would be difficult to fight this, what would be the basis of complaint? News24 is doing this knowing very well that there is nothing that we can do about it even if we see it. For now I dont think there's much that we can do.

      byron.matthews.562 - 2012-11-26 19:59

      The problem is not with Naspers. This is their product. They can do with it what they wish. They can promote the party they want, and they can spin stories the way they want. It's not their fault that their formula and business model works. Just look at the page views on the articles they churn out. If you visit their sites, be prepared for sensationalism and bias. This is what gets them the hits and will continue until it no longer works and then they'll try something else.

  • jacqui.millin - 2012-11-26 07:24

    Carien du Plessis wat makeer jou? DA is suid afrikaners wat hande gevat het! Hoekom bly dit n swart en wit ding? Wat van die Indiers, kleurlinge, chinese, ens? Is hulle nie goed genoeg om genoem te word? Die media hou rasse haat lewendig! Miskien moet DA verbied dat ras in enige DA berig gebruik word! Magtig maak dit saak of iemand pers, blou of groen is! Solank hy die werk kan doen!

  • donovan.hendricks.7 - 2012-11-26 07:43

    To all cANCer trolls on this forum:when rational,logical thinking people saw an uneducated person who has been found(in a court of law) of having a corrupt relationship with another person, you saw a true leader.when this person slept with his friends daughters,you saw a true leader,when this person took a shower as he believed it is a cure for aids,you saw a true leader,now this person is using taxpayers money as his own private piggy bank to maintain his harem and family,you still see a true leader.Now with your morals all turned upside down,I want to ask you this:'who the hell are you to condemn the leadership of the party in charge of the most succesfull province in this country?

  • wayne.faulds - 2012-11-26 07:44

    Congratulations to all elected persons. Hopefully this is a sign of the increased momentum of non racial politics in the country.

  • khumo.lebone - 2012-11-26 08:10

    Anyone who foresees the ANC's survival in the next 10 years needs a reality check. This party is on the slow decline and the reason its still keeping its wicket is because of the social grants and the dumbness of its voters.

  • Msika - 2012-11-26 08:40

    Maimane who???

      maylani.bezuidenhout - 2012-11-27 09:59

      You should be happy that the opposition is getting stronger because it will force the ANC to pull their pants up and start doing what they promised. There's nothing like the fear of power being taken away from you to make a government start delivering. And that is democracy at work.

  • firstseed.mbeva - 2012-11-26 08:41

    Fronting

      alexandra.robertson.969 - 2012-11-26 13:39

      If you had ever met any of these amazing people you would know your comment to be small minded and bigoted. Grow up.

      dl.moore.169 - 2012-11-26 18:29

      What's this fronting stuff all of a sudden? First the party was supposedly the exclusive province of the white elite, as far as you were concerned, and was therefore worthy of comments denigrating its all-inclusive values. And then as soon as black South Africans start making the intelligent choice to freely choose the DA as their party, balancing up what you considered to be the main problem with the DA, you call it fronting. LOL.

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-11-26 08:57

    Diane Kohler-Barnard thought she should be chosen because she got mentioned most in the media. If this is the criteria needed for office, Zuma is with us till the end of time.

      piet.motsoeneng - 2012-11-26 13:01

      If thats the critetia then it will mean we would see a dramatic return of Malema. I think that's silly of her to even suggest that. I thought people appear in the media because they are fighting for what is right not to win the right to be elected into positions.

  • thenjiwe.sindi - 2012-11-26 09:07

    The DA will b taken over by black people,Mazibuko,Maimane and d rest of the fronting will make enough money and wl start to resist to b used by their madams and baas. Anyway whites believe blacks a incompetent and corrupt in general that include their co opted black friends.

      maylani.bezuidenhout - 2012-11-26 10:15

      What exactly do you know, have you got a crystal ball? you sound very scared Thenjiwe, why don't you embrace the change that is coming? It may actually be the best thing for all of us.

      dl.moore.169 - 2012-11-26 21:27

      If you take the welcoming, glad and optimistic comments to this article on the recent round of DA elections as a small sampling of a wide spectrum of white South Africans, you, I hope, will see your -- "Anyway whites believe blacks a incompetent and corrupt in general that include their co opted black friends" comment as wilfully ignorant, pretentious and meaningless. We (and by we I speak for myself and, I'm sure, the majority of white South Africans, a sampling of which have commented here) do not care about colour. We just care about good governance. By coming out with self-hating, pessimistic junk like, "The DA will b taken over by black people,Mazibuko,Maimane and d rest of the fronting will make enough money and wl start to resist to b used by their madams and baas," you're just proving that you don't care about good governance, but only about some kind of stupid power contest, as if everything in this country must be about who, black or white, is more powerful than the other. It's stupid, self-defeating, weak-minded and, ultimately, destructive to all of us to think like that.

      morris.khunou - 2012-11-27 21:18

      see how desperate they are for a black vote! Seem like the only hope left for many!

  • Terence Hermanus - 2012-11-26 10:29

    i love the D.A... just when Mandela was president and i saw black and coloured people in high positions, they drove gorgeous cars it gave me hope and really i was proud to be a South African... now cANcer has taken that away... when i see a black person male or female in power i think God save us cos 99% chance they dumb, uneducated, corrupt and belong to cANCer... my view has been irrevocably changed.. until the krap die or are removed... when i see a black person in a beautiful car i think must be in government.... i love black woman and have black colleagues.... call me racist as i know you cANcer diseased people will but heres a big f.u.... D.A forever...

      omphile.umphimodise - 2012-11-26 12:06

      Are you for real? Also when we black people see a white person in a beautiful car we think he benefitted from apartheid.