Newspaper stands by Cele axing story

2011-10-17 22:46

Johannesburg - The Sunday Independent newspaper stood by its report that national police chief General Bheki Cele had been fired, editor Makhudu Sefara said on Monday.

"I don't know what people know about news stories, but from where we sit, the information has been sourced properly... it has been corroborated by more than two sources," he said.

The newspaper reported on Sunday that Cele had been axed and asked to take up a diplomatic post in Canada, and that he was expected to vacate his office by November 30.

The dismissal was reportedly the result of a report, by Public Protector Thuli Madonsela, which implicated him in controversial lease deals for buildings in Durban and Pretoria.

Madonsela found Cele had been involved in improper conduct and maladministration.

Police rejected the report on Monday, and said it was the product of incompetence and corruption.

"The SA Police Service (SAPS) would like to assure the South African public that General Cele is very much entrenched in his position as national commissioner," Cele's spokesperson Major General Nonkululeko Mbatha said.

"No amount of dirty tricks... will ever destabilise the organisation."

She said a disinformation campaign against Cele was being run by the "criminal underworld" with assistance from "their friends in the media".

The newspaper report did not quote any documents or sources to validate its claims, she said.

A letter was being sent to the newspaper requesting an internal investigation

"The SAPS will be asking the newspaper proprietors to release the findings of their investigation within 21 days," Mbatha said.

Sefara said the newspaper would consider the request.

"A basis for the investigation has not been established. If they [police] wish to request an investigation, we will listen and make a decision if we think there is sufficient basis for it," the editor said.

  • Adam - 2011-10-17 23:00

    Sounds about right, not really fired, just put on a shelf in Canada away from everyone in SA. Time heals all wounds and in a few years he will be back and its all forgotten about.

      Werner - 2011-10-18 07:42

      It is always very amusing how people in power caught breaking the law gets 'promoted' and the tax payer are responsible for the cleanup. The easiest for them is to avoid accountability, sell the Merc (payed for by the taxpayer), buy a plane ticket for their whole family (again payed for by the 'rich' tax payer) and expect the 'Rich tax payer' to clean their mess. He is a criminal and any person dismissing that is hands in pockets with him.

      etafrica - 2011-10-18 15:15

      I don't think Canada takes in criminals, Vinnie was not allowed in!!!!!!

  • Mantsho - 2011-10-18 00:27

    We need a white police commissioner now,somebody who is serious about the job.

      Gary - 2011-10-18 06:14

      Race has nothing to do with it, who ever can do the job is fine by me

      Gary - 2011-10-18 07:31

      no buddy, we need someone in there who will do the job, regardless of race, hopefully someone from the ranks and not some flashy general who looks like a pimp.

      Gary - 2011-10-18 08:23

      Thumbs down, racists not welcome

      colin.dovey - 2011-10-18 09:38

      The fact is, all we need is a professional POLICEMAN/WOMAN, who has been promoted through the ranks, and knows how the system works, and what POLICE work is all about. Political appointees never work. What about a choice from the following, who have PROVED themselves ON THE JOB: M.Petros, J.D.Basson (woman), T.R.Mothebela - The interesting fact, if you care to to some research, is that there is not ONE male white in the hierarchy at present. Is that not racism, and pointing to political, racist agendas?

  • Juan - 2011-10-18 02:02

    Well somebody is lying to us, and I would put it past the government either. To say that Cele is firmly entrenched in his position after all the evidence of his maladministration is scandelous. A government that protects such people and lies to the people they are supposed to serve is a government well past it's expiry date

      shelton.thorburn - 2011-10-18 12:39

      Time will tell who is lying. Not that it matters. Cele should be jailed for his blatant misuse of power.

  • Joseph - 2011-10-18 02:28

    media tribuno will possible suit news papers like yours,do not push politicians as they will act strange which will also affect your work.Your source wiil be as good as your gause.

      Carl - 2011-10-18 07:21

      WTF are you on about....idiot

      Clive - 2011-10-18 15:31


      Myth - 2011-10-19 17:29

      Spkn stnki pu...

  • Gary Niemandt - 2011-10-18 04:49

    Eish! Police Commissioner gets sacked only to go represent SA in another country!!

      Silvana - 2011-10-18 05:06

      It's party time for Cele! A bottomless pit of Sushi, French Champagne and Blue Label Whisky which we will be footing the bill for. Naturally! Damn I how do I get to be "punished" in that way?

      Paul - 2011-10-18 07:53

      ... and what does it say about the country who accepts this person as an ambassador from SA too???

      Elbie - 2011-10-18 12:49

      How can they give someone who's had so many foot-in-mouth moments a diplomatic post? And he (if it's true) wouldn't be the first either. Should a diplomat not be someone who can think before he speaks? Besides, is corruption not basis for dismissal?

      Marc - 2011-10-18 13:22

      We should ask the Canadian government not to accept his credentials when he presents them to the Canadian Prime Minister. After all, we as the people of SA, don't want a dishonest person as our representative overseas. Not so?

      etafrica - 2011-10-18 15:23

      Canada doesn't take Criminals into there Country !!!

  • Denzil - 2011-10-18 05:08

    We need to get a police commissioner who is a Police Officer. Let the Minister of Police handle the Politics ... the Police Commissioner needs to behave like a Cop and not a Politician.

  • George - 2011-10-18 06:05

    Hay nice one Next week we could own CANADA What a scoop

  • Herman - 2011-10-18 06:37

    "Cele had been axed and asked to take up a diplomatic post in Canada" That's nice, f%@k up over her, then we'll send our cronie to a another well paying position, no worries there... "Police rejected the report on Monday, and said it was the product of incompetence and corruption." No guys, it's YOU who are incompetent AND corrupt, NOT Madonsela! "The SA Police Service (SAPS) would like to assure the South African public that General Cele is very much entrenched in his position as national commissioner," Cele's spokesperson Major General Nonkululeko Mbatha said." What will happen to this "Major" when it comes out that SHE was lying??

  • dhuysamen1 - 2011-10-18 06:43

    Shame, Cele and his Keystone Cops do not need any assistance to make fools and liars out of themselves. They do pretty well all on their own.

  • Sterling - 2011-10-18 06:52

    I worked for the government for thirty two years, it's very hard to keep a secret in most government agencies. Most of the times this information is delibrated leaked out by the government before the person has been informed.

  • Kevin - 2011-10-18 07:02

    Fired would not be enough. A police commissioner's integrity should never be in question and his has more than a question mark behind it. He must also be criminally charged and do his 25 years if found guilty.Wherever an anc hotshot is on a company board it means that some legit company lost its government contract and the crooked one with a hotshot on it's board gets a new government contract.Should be easy for the Hawks to move on to the next customer. After all there are zero anc stalwarts who deserve to serve on a board- accept fat boy of course

  • Peter - 2011-10-18 07:03

    Ok .. so now we know.... "General Cele is very much entrenched in his position" --- he can not be fired - he there for life "No amount of dirty tricks... will ever destabilise the organisation.".... they protect their own , no matter if they it has been proven that they are as corrupt as possible "the product of incompetence and corruption." ..... hence why they want to force through the secrecy bill as fast as possible, ... to cover up their corruptions All the above quoted by Major General Nonkululeko Mbatha shows how incompetent she is. ( or in bed with Cele )

  • Michael - 2011-10-18 07:17

    Who verified the story... the DA and IFP? Sounds kinda fishy, so let's see how this pans out.

  • Myth - 2011-10-18 07:23

    "Madonsela found Cele had been involved in improper conduct and maladministration." Such a statement from the Public Protector is tantamount to a guilty verdict from a court of law, which means the criminal element this spokesman joker disguised as a major general refers to is the top cop himself. Which fits the mould, first Selebe, now Cele, who's next? Of course, this could be double bluff, paving the way for Cele to resign, for Zuma to refuse it to make the whole thing look honourable, then offer him the Canadian job. BTW, the Canadian Public Protector was in SA recently, maybe the thing was cooked up then already, to give him clearance?

  • Malcolm - 2011-10-18 07:36

    Canada could be a bit of a cultural shock for Cele. They have proper law and order there. I wonder who the next Zuma lacky will be to replace him. If only the ANC were competent enough to put somebody suitably qualified into the position. Somebody with a clean track record, who is honorable and above board.

      TheRock - 2011-10-18 09:21

      They can't afford to put in somebody suitably qualified 'cos it would mean that Zuma and his ANC cronies would be arrested for crimes they commit. Look what a thorn in their side Madonsela is...

  • Piet - 2011-10-18 07:51

    Now is the time to make a fortune in Canada by selling burglar bars and security equipment. Watch out Canada , Cele is on his way!!!!

  • thabani.mkhatshwa - 2011-10-18 08:07

    In the event that SAPS Commissioner is fired fro his position and posted to say Canada as an Ambassador, what exactly is SA saying to Canada !

  • errol.wagner - 2011-10-18 08:08

    Police rejected the report on Monday, and said it was the product of incompetence and corruption. SOUNDS LIKE THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT THE POLICE DEPT. "The SA Police Service (SAPS) would like to assure the South African public that General Cele is very much entrenched in his position as national commissioner," Cele's spokesperson Major General Nonkululeko Mbatha said. WE WOULD BE ASSURED IF HE WAS FIRED AND NOT KEPT ON. "No amount of dirty tricks... will ever destabilise the organisation." AGAIN, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE POLICE DEPT AND THE ANC GOVERNMENT.

  • stiaan.schwartz1 - 2011-10-18 08:12

    young matriculants get involved in politics and earn your place.

  • Mark - 2011-10-18 08:25

    Here we go again..get ready for round number three..another clown comes on to the stage?

  • Marion - 2011-10-18 10:10

    If Cele has indeed done corrupt things in office he should be dismissed immediately and not sent off. Dismissal is dismissal in any company in the world. You don't dismiss someone in one section of a company and then appoint them to another senior position in a subsidiary of said company. That said I do believe that Bheki Cele has been instrumental in getting the crime rate to drop in SA and the cops being accountable when they do not act like cops. The head of any police force should be squeaky clean and I clearly remember when he was carrying about R20 000 in a plastic bag on a plane (from Cape Town to Joburg if I recall correctly) and said he earned enough to be able to do that and it was nobody's business. Who in their right mind carries R20 000 in a bag from one city to another? Particularly in a crime ridden country like SA. Glad I'm not president Zuma having to make a decision on this one because there is never smoke without fire.

  • Cheryl - 2011-10-18 13:01

    Is Cele corrupt or not.....WHEN IS THE TRIAL????

  • carolyn.dewrance - 2011-10-18 13:02

    So if he can go to Canada, then why cant the rest of us, at least we will be away from the crime in South Africa.

  • George - 2011-10-21 20:07

    Transferd on promotion to Canada to show them how to fight crime

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