Ngcobo tipped to head arms deal probe

2011-09-17 22:21

Johannesburg - President Jacob Zuma wants former chief justice Sandile Ngcobo to head the commission of inquiry into the controversial arm deals, the Sunday Times reported.

The newspaper said it has learnt that Justice Ngcobo was approached on Wednesday, to head the commission.

The announcement of Justice Ngcobo's appointment and the term of reference, was expected to be made this week, when President Jacob Zuma returns from the UN General Assembly.

President Zuma's announcement that he would appoint a commission to probe the arms deal took many of his colleague in the ANC by surprise this week, some being unsure of his motives.

In his opening address at the ANC national executive committee meeting on Friday, Zuma briefed members about his decision but failed to give details of the commission's term of reference and composition.

  • dagwood4455 - 2011-09-17 22:31

    aaah, this figures, the commission of enquiry is to give the old judge a job; it al makes sense now. I could not understand why they would want to "investigate" it now after all this time.

      James Weather - 2011-09-17 23:01

      some being unsure of his motives = all being unsure of his motives.

      Warren - 2011-09-17 23:33

      I really don't mind the ANC squandering the almost 50% of my earnings I pay to tax, I really, really don't.  What ticks me off is when they stand in front of the poor & tell them with a straight face that their plight is all MY fault... & that apparently I'M the thief.  Ja nê, lekka in Africa ek sê!

      Joe_Public - 2011-09-18 07:49

      Utter farce! With the information bill about to be forced through parliament by the ANC, this will amount to nothing because the "findings" i.e. dictations will not be challenged. Africa really is the cradle of human kind. The ANC is a bunch of incontinent babies that just can't grow up.

      cliffarc - 2011-09-18 08:47

      - Here comes another waste of taxpayers money. It's a non- event, a charade. Seems the Anc just like the term " commission of inquiry" , but are not the least bit interested in facing the truth. Imagine if Zuma had the balls and appointed someone like judge Richard Goldstone to do the job. Then we could start to believe he was being serious. The Anc Circus just rolls along.

      umlaut - 2011-09-18 20:04

      zuma must first be charged with obstructing the course of justice when he went to Maritius to prevent the evidence there to be disclosed. He can go to jail on that and then he can run his self organised investigation from jail with a cell phone.

  • Yoni - 2011-09-17 22:35

    After all these years, is there any scrap of evidence left?

  • Chabi - 2011-09-17 22:48

    quid pro quo Thabo, here comes the german fighter jets scandal with rockets aiming at you ...

  • Sir Eidolon - 2011-09-17 22:51

    What a joke. Rather allow Jakob to apply his mind for a few months.

  • Yislaaik - 2011-09-17 22:58

    What a farce!

  • Nogeen - 2011-09-17 22:59

    Het Ngcobo tanne alla die DP?

  • Dlomo - 2011-09-17 23:09

    The reigning chief justice (Moegoeng Moegoeng) is Zuma's choice, even the head of the commission of enquiry into arms deal is his choice (Sandile Ngcobo). The outcome will have to be favourable to him (Zuma).

      Ay Gee Wils - 2011-09-17 23:57

      yeah its more of the same - what floors me is that he really believes that no one can spot his plan ...:)) not even the Brits or the Americans!

      Warren - 2011-09-18 00:07

      Lol. Even Baas-Ted & his bloody agents spotted it!

  • raffles - 2011-09-17 23:16

    I am going to let my bull mastiff watch over my steak.

  • Steve S - 2011-09-17 23:49

    This is like asking the wolf to look after the sheep

  • Ay Gee Wils - 2011-09-17 23:52

    might as well have let goebbels run the nuremberg trails ... its a joke

      Rightway - 2011-09-18 00:12

      Goebbels would have been very proud of Zuma783 and Stalin would have given him a A+

      Frank - 2011-09-18 02:20 let the truth be known! this clip says it all!

  • BoerSeun - 2011-09-18 05:25

    nothing will happen, dont get excited

  • Nox - 2011-09-18 07:11

    Fantastic stuff;you whiners should be quiet and wait flr the investigations to be completed.

      cliffarc - 2011-09-18 08:53

      - Tell us, whats it like with your head buried so deep in the sand ?

  • Monika - 2011-09-18 07:30

    I can see exactly what is happening here - the secrecy bill will be made law. Results for Arms Deal Probe "classified". We will never see the results.

  • Nico - 2011-09-18 07:49

    Please people, just undestand!! Jacob promised jobs and this is where he started handing out jobs..... another 499 999 jobs to be created......

  • RichardS - 2011-09-18 08:06

    A commission of inquiry is what we all have been clamouring for for years to investigate the corruption allegations around the arms deal. It's fairly standard practice to ask a respected retired judge to head this type of commission by the president. Justice Ngcobo is also respected across the political spectrum, DA, ANC, etc. Why don't we reserve judgement on what evidence will be permissible and what legislation will be used to block evidence before we criticize the process. If the protection of information bill and national is used as a cover to hinder the introduction of evidence, I will be the first to protest...

      Shukran - 2011-09-18 10:54

      @RichardS It is standard operating procedure on News24 to bitch and whine about everything in the country, surely you know that by now. They say that people's heads are in the sand while theirs are up their own posteriors. As you say - lets see what comes out of this inquiry before passing judgement.

      cliffarc - 2011-09-18 11:09

      - Do I detect a sliver of scepticism creeping in from the rabid liberal ?

      RichardS - 2011-09-18 18:38

      In the context of political principles, a liberal is defined as "a. Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry. b. Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded." Wow, if your post was meant for me, I did not expect a compliment from you, cliffarc. Where would you characterize yourself on the political spectrum? Fascist: A reactionary or dictatorial? Conservative: Favoring traditional views and values; tending to oppose change? Anyway, let me know, would be most interested...

      RichardS - 2011-09-18 18:50

      Hi Shukran, I know, and I have been looking at many of these one-sided anti-South Africa posts for some time on many articles, and just decided that I'm going to take present an alternate balanced view, and that the negative, ignorant and racist posts can't be allowed to be the only representation of South Africa and its people to the world. And then, also, to encourage all who use various issues to hate SA to leave.

      Shukran - 2011-09-19 05:31

      RichardS Your feelings seem to mirror mine. I suggest that a charity be set up to raise funds to help all the SA haters emigrate to Perthfontein where they can set up their Laager and be happy. The rest of us can then start to try and undo the harm that they have done to race-relations and move on.

      Mike-O - 2011-09-19 05:47

      @Shukran - great idea, can I put my family at the top of the waiting list for Perth. Thanks stacks man

      RichardS - 2011-09-19 08:09

      Ok, Mike-O, but I'm not paying for the fly-swatter which you will need in Aus, or I'll give you one free if you leave your Springbok jersey, here in SA, and don't post another negative SA comment once you've moved to Aus to rationalise your decision to leave... PS- If you're such a loser that you or your family could not make enough money during good old days where you were previously advantaged to buy a R7,000 one-way plane ticket, I'm not sure whether Perth, Oz would want you either....

      Shukran - 2011-09-19 08:57

      Mike-O the charity would be for the individual bigot only, do not drag your family into this!

  • Vince York - 2011-09-18 08:21

    Does any lapdog hold the power of veto - or can rulings and judgement's be swayed or influenced in any manner at this level these days?

  • edalsg - 2011-09-18 09:05

    Zoomer May as well write the outcome himself NOW ------its an absolute farce . More deployed Cadre employment .

  • seshike mmoledi - 2011-09-18 12:54

    Those willing and want that to take place are also contributing to the country being poor thinking that they are doing the right things.Let that case be closed for good we want services and yet money is going to be waisted for nothing again, because the past cases relating to arms deal had cost the state a lot and now the commission again which will also cost the tax payers a lot and deprive poor people service deliveries. Let politicians not think of themselves and their greediness and use money to sort out peoples need and wants as we have voted for them in offices not to dump us but to take care of us. For example Madidi village in Madibeng municipality in North West has nothing to can point which is good that the government and the ruling party has done for them, the state of roads are poor it seems as if they are still waiting for first 1994 elections to come so that they get water, roads and other services there is nothing there so monies that will be wasted there could be used for service deliveries in such places as they are now neglected by their municipalities and councillors just there to get paid and doing nothing for the community where she can even hardly not call a single meeting for the community to talk to them, so what kind of councillor is she leading people she can not talk to, instead when people start asking her questions she then call police and makes communication between her and community more and more bad, let government and ruling party sort that.

  • 50something - 2011-09-18 14:13

    Zuma would have made very sure that all evidence pointing at him are "lost" before he took this decision. Pretty much what he did before he became president. Won't be surprise if Shaik's last days are also approaching fast - knows too much.

      umlaut - 2011-09-18 19:06

      So he is terminally ill---new diagnoses:-- "the brain over active with dangerous material"

      umlaut - 2011-09-18 19:14

      Shaik has an ace up his sleeve--if he dies of unnatural causes an envelope will be opened and read somewhere overseas and the anc knows this--so he is safe to live a long and prosporous life and the only thing that will kill him could be too many cigars or a gholf ball on a rebounce.

  • Strange - 2011-09-18 14:37

    Eish - can we allow all to "testify" as we have allready concluded that it was the "inconsistencies of uncontreolled apartheid basterd agents that made us do these bad things as we were underpriveledged to gaaining access to knowledge of things this complex giving us good access to foreign currencies" - eish eish eish...........

  • sniperman - 2011-09-19 13:01

    Has JZ lost his marbles?? You cannot appoint Sandile Ngcobo to head up the investigation. This is an honorable man. As far as I am aware he has never been caught with his hand in the cookie jar and was held in high esteem by the legal profession. Has JZ lost his marbles or is his thinking now clouded by STD's like some of the other notorious Third World dictators?? Personally, I would suggest Tony Yengeni as the ideal candidate to lead this investigation

  • mariushr - 2011-09-21 23:02

    It is also worthy to note that Ngcobo dissented, i.e. lead the minority judgement, in the Constitutional Court ruling on the constitutionality of the Hawks as replacement for the Scorptions. I.e. Ngcobo, perhaps unintentionally, was towing the party line by maintaining the Hawks was a sufficient replacement for the Scorpions DESPITE the majority of ConCourt judges arguing the opposite. Now, left unchallenged and not part of a collective, will the retired Chief Jsutice's findings on the Arms Deal also, perhaps unintentionally, tow the party line?

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