Nkandla not about Zuma - SACP

2012-11-12 20:50

Durban - The SACP in KwaZulu-Natal has called for a law to protect the dignity of the office of the president.

"This happens in many countries; once a person is appointed the president, some respect needs be given to that person," provincial secretary Themba Mthembu said on Monday in Durban.

"Such an office needs to be protected."

Mthembu said President Jacob Zuma had been the subject of a barrage of attacks which were unfair, and lacking in fact and truth.

"Things such as The Spear painting tend to insult the president. We want to prevent criticism which is an insult to the office of the president," he said.

"They can criticise, as long as they don't insult and undermine the head of state."

The SA Communist Party condemned the visit by Democratic Alliance leader Helen Zille to Zuma's private home in Nkandla.

"We believe this was cheap, political point-scoring by Zille and her stooges," Mthembu said.

Zille visited Nkandla on 4 November to "inspect" the upgrade to the president's private residence, which reportedly cost R248m. 

Mthembu said development in Nkandla was part of rural development, one of the five priority areas identified by the Polokwane conference.


"We demand that people of Nkandla should not be discriminated [against] in government programmes to develop rural areas, simply because they have the president of the Republic as one of their residents,"

The SACP said it would hold a march on Saturday in Nkandla in support of rural development.

"The purpose of the march is to demand development in rural areas to be respected and also fast tracked. We'll be saying that kind of development must be rolled out in other areas."

Areas which had been identified as priority areas for rural development included Nkandla and Msinga, Vhembe District, Limpopo and Pondoland, and the Eastern Cape, Mthembu said.

He said the extension of the president's home could be seen as part of rural development because issues which had been raised in the media included the roads built in Nkandla.

Mthembu said the SACP was worried about the price of the upgrade to Zuma's residence.

He commended the department of public works for asking the Auditor General to investigate the cost.

  • ansie.fourie.940 - 2012-11-12 21:00

    Don't talk bulls#$@%t

      rodney.bevan.58 - 2012-11-12 21:12

      If what these idiots say is true, then it must be available to the general public, so when can we expect the first of the local population to move in? Does anyone really care or take any notice what an obsolete party like the SACP (any communist party for that matter) does or says? They only survive because they hang on to the ANC apron strings. They have to make the right noises or be cut off by the ANC and completely vanish. These boys are bleating for their very lives.

      SharonE - 2012-11-12 22:26

      Nooooo it isn't about zuma at all, nudge nudge wink wink...

      indianajohn - 2012-11-12 22:33

      "These boys are bleating for their very lives. " Yes, they are. But in what other country do so MANY people have no humility? Where else do so many people serve only themselves at the cost of the public? You can't tell me they don't know that what they're doing is wrong on a very basic moral and ethical basis. I can not believe that anyone could be that stupid. So they KNOW they are wrong, their ideas serve no purpose, and that their plans will result in the country going backwards. SURELY? And yet they carry on regardless. Criminals, all of them. If they really don't realise that they are wrong, then this is a whole new special kind of stupid, the likes of which I've never seen before. Forrest Gump knew the difference between right and wrong.

      chris.debeer1 - 2012-11-13 00:03

      Well lets hope they have a GOOD fire brigade looking after OUR investment I see way to much Thatch

      atholl.canterbury - 2012-11-13 04:58

      == Equal Protection -- Equal Benefit === "The SACP in KwaZulu-Natal has called for a law to protect the dignity of the office of the president" .... you don't need a law .... it's already there ! Bill of Rights - Section 9 (1) (Which the President swears an oath to protect) ... says: S9(1) Everyone is equal before the law and has the right to equal protection and benefit of the law. Taxpayers need equal protection and benefit for Tax Collect Tax Spend

      wesley.nel.5 - 2012-11-13 05:06

      That is one way of doing it, waste millions, then everybody wants to have a look at it, all the tourist will spend money in Nkandla, buying peanuts from the street smous. Well they already had the DA as visitors.

      mholthuysen - 2012-11-13 09:31

      They are communists - so I guess they have to. Everywhere on earth except Cuba & North Korea communism has been defeated (mind PR China - but I guess one can't call it communism anymore) "This happens in many countries; once a person is appointed the president, some respect needs be given to that person" - yes it has happened in many countries - the beneficiaries in the last 100 years were Hitler, Mussolini, Gaddafi, Saddam Hussein, Kim Il Yung, Mugabe, Mobuto - and a few more tyrants and dictators. You do not see this happening for Merkel, Holland, Blair, Obama or any leader of the democratic world. Gives a shocking answer to South African society, South African "democracy" and the SACP....

      morris.khunou - 2012-11-13 12:12

      What do you want to hear Ansie? You can say it yourself! Stop bursting on a social platform, I am sure you can perform better if you can take a deep breath hold it on, take it out slowly! Good! Now you can try to talk in a slow,polite and civil manner! Thank U for trying!

      denise.ryan.5203 - 2012-11-13 12:14

      The difference between Socialism and Communism... the Socialist tries to lead us to disaster by foolish words and the Communist drives us there by violent deeds!

      heathway.master - 2012-11-13 15:54

      Just what respect does Zuma deserve. Respect is earned by one actions and integrity, not automatically assigned to a post in high office. Worst, most incompetent, self-serving and corrupt president in the history of South Africa. All thinking citizens will be overjoyed when they finally see his back. All digs at him are backed up by 100% truth. This man is, and always will be a complete embarrassment to the country. With his history, he would never ever have made president in any civilised country in the world. As for the Nkandla debacle, every time a politician’s mouth moves, you know he is telling a lie.

  • Desilusionada - 2012-11-12 21:04

    Oh of course, how could we forget! We must not insult or undermine the man. Silly us. ~Sound of slap on the wrist~ Loud 'Ouch' And he must be left free to insult our intelligence and undermine the fabric of the citizens, (especially the female examples of), by what he says and does..........

  • Tony.Montana.Moelenyane - 2012-11-12 21:09

    SHUT UP sapc !!!!!Bloody Puppets

      maureen.churchill.9 - 2012-11-13 09:43

      Helen Zille went to nkandla to show the people of this country and the world what is happening in South Africa, and I believe she did just that, well done Helen Zille

      morris.khunou - 2012-11-13 12:37

      If that was the intention Mapepaki, the she is unpatriotic and does not deserve to be a leader! You dont hang your dirty linean so as the world can see!

      colin.langley - 2012-11-13 13:26

      Oh shut up Morris. You are clearly in the minority here on this forum!

      clive.kihn - 2012-11-13 13:40

      Morris: when the Nats were in power they regarded whites who didn't vote for them as traitors. Now you are saying that anyone who crticises the ANC govt, no matter how badly they screw up, is "unpatriotic". I put it to you that Helen Zille has SA's interests more at heart than the thieves in the ANC, who are interested only in themselves.

      morris.khunou - 2012-11-13 18:56

      What is your name "bearpup' or something! You clearly not deserve my response. "Freedom of speech" lilly pink or pale boy whatever you see yourself as.Your number here is insignificant will not win you a vote in SA let alone a ward. It only demonstrate the imbalances of the past. I said it before that this plartform is nothing more than a convergence of bitter, arrogant, bunch of failers crying for split milk, rejects of the west, remnants of appartheid, consumed in self importace, morally bankrupt who has nothing but insults for blacks of this country, doomsayers who have nothing else to do and no hope for the future, ignoramus, dishonest with the truth and selectivisits who what the person says is less important than who they are. They use this plartform to relieve or discharge and feel better afterwards. This is my country and no one will silence me and I dont need a backup whatsoever living hell!!

      morris.khunou - 2012-11-13 19:06

      Clive that is zille as you want us to see her not as we see her! She is nothing more than an opportunist a quick witted liar and a racist in a sheep skin. Unfortunately there are a lot of trust issues to be dealt with in this country and we dont see you as friends! The attitudes on this plartform confirms this fact! We are also not about to give in!

      arie.vdplaats.3 - 2012-11-14 04:40

      @ morris.khunou, please do wake up and open your eyes and SEE and actually PERCEIVE what is going on. Or are you one of the those types of people who prefer to only see what they WANT to see, of the kind who comment "I've made up my mind, please do not confront or try to confuse me with the real facts"

  • nick.spangenberg.52 - 2012-11-12 21:09

    So all 12 member of the sacp in kzn will go on a march crying about everything well guess what it's not their tax money being wasted

      art5SA - 2012-11-13 07:55

      Strange fact is, there are only 168 000 members of the SACP..... yet they tell Govt what and what NOT to do!!!!! Problem is..... not two brain cells between the lot!

      morris.khunou - 2012-11-13 12:39

      In any organisation you have members and suppoters! I never had time for maches nor do I believe in them but I my spirit they have all my support!

      sean.carbutt - 2012-11-13 15:10

      Morris, what you dont have is a brain. Get one of them first and them learn to spell correctly and then learn logic [if thats at all possible], then maybe, you can comment until then STFU

      morris.khunou - 2012-11-13 19:16

      Sean the English teacher! Who pays you to correct grammer here! I dont have time to proof read anything that I write here, If you trully believe I cant spell on serious writtings you better think again.You have all the time int the world. Brains I have boss plenty!

  • roger.kaputnick.90 - 2012-11-12 21:12

    News flash SACP... It's not as though Zuma spent millions uplifting Nkandla (eg building hospitals, schools and housing for the public). HE SPENT TAX PAYERS MONEY ON HIMSELF !!> You are illrelevant morons the whole lot of you.Go and FYS.

  • louis.langenhoven - 2012-11-12 21:16

    oh puleeeeez

  • eddie.botha.3 - 2012-11-12 21:16

    Once a person is appointed the president (in many countries), some respect needs be given to that person, says SACP provincial secretary Themba Mthembu. But, he forgets that in those countries respect is earned not bought. Unfortunately is it uninformed, basically stupid people such as Mthembu who will poison the minds of the grassroots. How does Mthembu explain that , according to the Census, more kids under the age of 5 yrs die and more people are deprived of fresh water and basic sanitation services in Nkandla than other areas in SA? Is that how the president cares for his own people? By upgrading his private house?

  • Jacques Vermeulen - 2012-11-12 21:18

    Steel en korrupsie word nie meer in die land gesien as onwettig nie!!Dit word deesdae beskou as werkskepping!Hulle sal vat tot daar niks oor is om te vat nie dan sal hul sien en besef dat hul in staat is tot niks!!

      lwandile.sobantu - 2012-11-12 21:35


      riaan.mostert.58 - 2012-11-12 22:56

      "Theft and corruption aren't seen as illegal anymore in this country. It it seen as job creation these days. They will take until there is nothing left and then they will see and realise that they aren't capable of anything."

      fanie.gerber1972 - 2012-11-13 06:52

      Iwandile hoekom leer jy nie in Engels te skryf nie - want duidelik weet jy nie hoe nie Iwandile why don't you learn to write in English - because clearly you dont know how.

  • mbambo.shi - 2012-11-12 21:19

    Spare us the details. What is a baby snake???. It is an earthworm, according to SACP. Passed with cum-laude.

  • punungwe - 2012-11-12 21:19

    What kind of rural development involves the development of only one homestead?

      bertus.pretorius.1 - 2012-11-12 21:33

      *gasp* you said the H-word...

      art5SA - 2012-11-13 07:58

      It is a KAYA.... nuff said!

  • bertie.hechter - 2012-11-12 21:20

    The SACP needs to catch a wake-up and smell the rotten smell of corruption!

      clive.kihn - 2012-11-13 08:22

      The SACP has to lick ass to stay in govt. Quite frankly, why it has such large representation in cabinet is beyond me; it is a possible deterrent to investment. The SACP is a small group of dinosaurs who yearn for the Berlin wall to be rebuilt; they have nothing new and economically constructive to offer.

  • vernon.samuel.7 - 2012-11-12 21:21

    Something tells me that there will not be a delegation of hundreds of DA supporters waiting to disrupt your march. They respect your democratic right to march. Pity the ANC did not respect their democratic right to march. Sorry SACP, but you are a bully just like the ANC and Cosatu. And you are ultimately nothing but a yes-man for the ANC. Without them, you are nothing.

  • mfundoj1 - 2012-11-12 21:23

    He's still the biggest corrupted leader

  • bertus.pretorius.1 - 2012-11-12 21:23

    How daft can this lot get? Seriously, they are getting to the ANCYL's level of utter stupidity or plain ignorance.

      kevin.watson.7906 - 2012-11-13 00:04

      Its definitely a** licking stupidity>

  • PointBlank - 2012-11-12 21:23

    LOL!!!! Yes SACP and the really is a Santa Clause...

  • Tlou.debele - 2012-11-12 21:26

    Law protect Jacob.......?he must bring da tapes 1st

      toxicater - 2012-11-12 22:37

      Tapes are only a fraction of about he must resign!

  • george.pito - 2012-11-12 21:29

    Elected by who and what respect will any president get if he has so many wifes. Talk the biggest rubbish, has very little education, waist money. This is not rural development this is plain common lack of inteligence and in doing so the president undermines himself. What on earth is this going to help the community if the president gets a town of R2450 mil. A few year ago he was part of a corruption deal and had no money. Sorry SACP the definition of communism is somebody thats has nothing and shares it with everybody

  • sceenie.honjiswa - 2012-11-12 21:29

    Of course its not about Zuma its about helping the disadvantaged,,,,,keep on believing that maybe it will finally be!!!!

  • Tshephangsithole - 2012-11-12 21:30

    They too are enjoying the rides of the corrupt offices, Shame on The SACP

  • badladballie - 2012-11-12 21:32

    Four legs good, two legs bad.

  • trevor.mashilo - 2012-11-12 21:33

    Hai F

  • mbambo.shi - 2012-11-12 21:34

    Themba Mthembu is a taxi driver. Flies always follow him around, more especially when his vent start to spit trash.

  • debduplessis - 2012-11-12 21:40

    WHAT KLAP-TRAP!! Expenditure of OFFICIAL Resideneces to what other countries in their country expect taxpayers to pay for ... this is so-called "PERSONAL" property expectantly paid for by TAXPAYERS!!! This is stealing, corruption, mis-representation of one's office position and FRAUDULENT! when your Zuma starts acting like a president then he can have my respect as a president.... until then its a NO-GO!!!!

  • moshasheng.terrencenkadimeng - 2012-11-12 21:43

    When will that devepment come to Sekhukhune ?

      ali.makhadzi - 2012-11-12 22:41

      J.Z replies: \Answer pending, pls inquire Cassel Mathale\

  • Erna - 2012-11-12 21:43

    The SACP is a party that can't exist on it's own and has to hang onto the ANCs apron strings.

  • neo.sebape - 2012-11-12 21:44

    Excuse you sir, whoever you are, I'm sure u are not a blind person for you not to see what the prezident is doing I mean R248mill of tax payers money going towards his private residents for his personal use, come on, people are losing jobs incl teachers may I add and the prezident had the power to stop that upgrdd but he chose not too, instead he seeks to serve himself instead of his own fellow south africans

      thabo.sebyeng - 2012-11-12 22:50

      Guys pls this cosatu n sacp n other people who stand by zuma when he do this useless things thy must be something wrong whith them firs there is a diferant between a king n a president zuma want to mix both things how can a president marry so many wifes how is he goin to tel people to abstain?he build him self i mean him self a huge palace that even nelson mandela dont have look how sa youth sufers look at his naighbor in nkandla very poor but look what he is doin i think he is selfish worse part he disrespected mbeki after so long he just talk like that about him it was nice by the time he contested against mbeki but now he want that thing he was contesting he is anfair some people are not ornest realy u cant beck up zuma he is not a good leade at all,atleast mbeki was recognized by un and give him a job his cv or profile it looks good but as for zuma he cant be recognized to work for anywhere in the un.i so wish he can goe man just goe away man u dont lead by an example goe dont look back eish u act like a small boy zuma this zuma that i wish i have power man oh god why u never make me someone up there

  • debduplessis - 2012-11-12 21:48

    with this utter propaganda BS being thrown at us .... and you idiots think we must just "lap" it up like little puppies/kittens ---- think again!!! we have a brain & a mouth, we use it --- no wonder you cronnies are trying to silence us with the Secrecy Bill (old name for that was "Sensorship")

  • zolisa.dlokovu - 2012-11-12 21:50

    I like this comment : SACP-Flush the toilet and disappear. I agree.The communist party only exist on paper. I have never seen a communist party defending a capitalist system.

  • ramabulana - 2012-11-12 21:51

    Wow and I am expected to pay tax

      Mhlonitjhwa Sikhosana - 2012-11-12 21:56

      i jst gave u a thumb-down.

      ronald.stilianou - 2012-11-12 23:26

      No'you didn't ,he's got 3 thumbs ups, and 0 thumbs must be a special kind of stupid.

      kent.paulsen.79 - 2012-11-13 19:51

      @ Mhlonitjhwa Sikhosana - just for that comment you got a thumbs down too. LOL

  • daniel.rossouw1 - 2012-11-12 21:54

    Communists will say that because they are the lap dog of the ANC. Public figure needs to be told when they're wrong. Should be tied up on town square so we can throw rotten tomatoes at him.

  • Prince Bird - 2012-11-12 21:55

    If u want to prove how stupid u r,just support stupid ppl.

  • Montagnes.Bleues - 2012-11-12 22:01

    Put it this way - if Malema and cronies have all been criminal in their business activities which they have been for a long time, then this presidency must be even more compromised and liable - top to bottom.

      Erna - 2012-11-12 22:44

      Talking about Juliboy - he's been awfully quiet lately!

      kent.paulsen.79 - 2012-11-13 19:56

      I think his white lawyer has told him to SHUTUP or fail. Seems likes he listens to his lawyer

  • malcolm.baillie.50 - 2012-11-12 22:01

    well, it's good to know your definition of communism comrades!

  • terrylee.heuer - 2012-11-12 22:06

    Mthembu said President Jacob Zuma had been the subject of a barrage of attacks which were unfair, and lacking in fact and truth....well then please give us the facts and the truth!!! I'm waiting!!!

      kevin.watson.7906 - 2012-11-13 00:15

      Dont hold your breath.

  • piet.motsoeneng - 2012-11-12 22:16

    Tell us something new SACP via Mthembu, like something that displays intelligence and its not merely round of singing praises and defending your master because, maybe he will give you a cabinet post, if tere is none, one will be created for you. The last time someone sang praises of the ANC like you do he was rewarded with a cabinet post, Mduduzi Manana that is. I can see what you are trying to do Mr Mthembu, good shot it might just work for you.

      piet.motsoeneng - 2012-11-12 22:30

      One thing that Mthembu and SACP choose to ignore is that respect is earned, and there are no shortcuts to that PERIOD!

      kent.paulsen.79 - 2012-11-13 19:58

      He says you can critise but not insult the president and in the same breath calls DA supporters stooges, what a insult. Poephol of the lowest form.

  • henry.vanderburpenfart - 2012-11-12 22:17

    Pull the other one you doff commies, maybe it's got bells on it.

  • kingsley.mokomane - 2012-11-12 22:26

    This SACP guys are so irritating, you don't need law to be respected BUT good behaviour. Zuma is irresponsible president ever and all this insults follows his conduts and deeds.

  • anthony.richardson.961 - 2012-11-12 22:35

    You have it all wrong, the position of President should deserve respect, not inculcated by legislation, but it is up to the incumbent to earn that respect.\r\n\r\nUnfortunatley the individual that presently holds that position neither deserves it nor has earned it. Don't expect me to kowtow to an uneducated, immoral and inneffective so called leader because his party of likewise uneducated sycophants have decided he is the chosen one.\r\n\r\nGuess I'm not your typical ANC / SACP sheeple type person

  • beertjie.peertjie - 2012-11-12 22:35

    Rural development my ba!!s.

  • zamani.myende - 2012-11-12 22:36

    rubbì$h, dont protect da $howermañ!

  • Partiboy - 2012-11-12 22:39

    A compound for the president and its residents being classified as a 'rural development' programme? My gosh this government is useless! How can they classify this as rural development? Is it sustainable? Is it creating long term growth and employment? Lick my balls cANCer!

      Partiboy - 2012-11-12 22:55

      Freedom of speech. Freedom of criticism. Freedom of stating the truth. As long as the ruling 'party' is using my money for this holiday resort, I can say and do as I please!

  • Pieter van Staden - 2012-11-12 22:47

    why didn't they develop the other areas first and then nkandla mr prez.

  • robqb - 2012-11-12 22:48

    PLEASE! Respect is "earned", it doesn't come with entitlement or the office. Helen Zille was fully within her rights as a South African citizen to visit Nkandla or any other building, city, township or village that person or party decides to visit.

  • truthbetold221 - 2012-11-12 22:49

    They did mention that this Mthembu is from Kwazulu Natal. It's no surprise.

  • asdhasgd - 2012-11-12 22:51

    "They can criticise, as long as they don't insult and undermine the head of state." Then whats the point of free speech?? >:( chops

  • John - 2012-11-12 22:52

    If it is public funds spent on private property it is NOT rural development! Who do you think you are fooling? If the OFFICE of the president behaves like an idiot then he deserves to be treated like an idiot! No LAW will change that FACT!

  • truthbetold221 - 2012-11-12 22:57

    Zuma should respect the office that the people of South Africa have (blindly) put him in and serve them. If he can respect the people, the people will respect him, he won't have to beg them to.

  • robert.warriner - 2012-11-12 23:03

    I will respect the president when he earns it. This man is corrupt and clearly not concerned about the people. Sorry... spear, nkadlagate, showerhead... all deserved!

  • freddie.jones.58367 - 2012-11-12 23:21

    This guy is yet another communist who simply does not understand what democracy is. Further, he condemns himself with his own words. He simply does not understand that in a democracy, the president is NOT appointed, he is ELECTED and as such the president answers to the ELECTORATE.

  • kevin.watson.7906 - 2012-11-13 00:00

    There is an idiot born every second thank heaven most of them keep quiet. Mthembu should follow suite. Nkandla is not a state residence for the president it is his personal home built on communal land to which he has no title, ther is not a bank or financial institution in the world that would have financed a home on land that the borrowere has no title, or inalienable right. It benefits no one in the local community and is a huge theft of taxpayers money