Nkandla reports about Mangaung, ANC says

2012-11-21 15:56

Johannesburg - Reports that President Jacob Zuma did not have a bond for his Nkandla home were an attempt to influence the ANC's elective conference in Mangaung, the party said on Wednesday.

"The suggestion that there was no bond was made with bad intentions to undermine the president. It also seeks to unduly influence outcomes going to Mangaung," the African National Congress said in a statement.

The ruling party was responding to reports that there was no bond registered against Zuma's Nkandla home in KwaZulu-Natal.

Zuma told Parliament last week that he sought to expand his home and that he approached a bank to secure a bond. He said he was still paying a bond on the first phase of his home.

The ANC said those claiming there was no proof of any bond were hoping to access confidential information from banks.

"In terms of the law that governs commercial transactions, there is an obligation on the part of transacting parties to protect private and confidential information."

The party called for respect for Zuma and "truthful reporting".

It said the request by opposition parties to the Speaker of the National Assembly to investigate the matter was an abuse of the Speaker's office.

"It is evident that the opposition has run out of genuine issues and resort to clutching at straws."

The "noises" on the Nkandla issue were the same as the opposition's motion of no confidence in Zuma.

"We want to state and caution media in general and opposition parties that ANC members, particularly delegates to the Mangaung conference, can never be dictated to by any outside sources when it comes to ANC internal democracy."

  • rbphiri - 2012-11-21 16:01

    In the News: There is no bond registered against President Jacob Zuma's Nkandla home. When questioned about the allegations, president Jacob Zuma responded by saying that MR Bond is only coming to Nklanda next week, after shooting his new action thriller; Sky Fall.

      Montagnes.Bleues - 2012-11-21 16:52

      Pierre de Vos has already LODGED PAPERS with the Public Protector to investigate all these allegations that could seemingly be irrefutably criminal. These add somewhat tot he otehr virtually proven cases that the NPA is being coerced to step away from again as Mpshe did so criminally years ago. Where is he? He should be in the same dock. Thinking of which, SA will hardly have any indian population left outside of public service after this fallout. Public service as in prison duty's. As concerned citizens it is any and every citizens duty to hold transgressors to account. Goodbye Zuma. You were the weakest link! Does trying to hold on a few extra days give his relative Khulubuse Zuma who is being held with others liable for R1.7billion recently any benefit? The one who refused to pay Aurora workers for years until they starved and the mine was a carcass. Mangaung takes on zuma at its own peril. Motlanthe should step in again temporarily and briefly at any rate, until President Zille is sworn in. Here is something else for everyone to try and remove the distasteful matter:- best with a bottle of "banned by unions" Cape Red Merlot.

  • rbphiri - 2012-11-21 16:03

    R280m wasted! and yet people still vote for them.

      SaintBruce - 2012-11-21 18:02

      I think the ANC spin Doctors are in a spin! This has nothing to do with Mangaung - just very inconvenient timing - but has everything to do with serious maladministration in the ANC led Government. How do you present a project to Parliament some years ago for upgrades totalling R 65 Million and then we find out that over R 200 million was spent? Where is the accountability? Where was the authority? Where was the process {tenders have to go via a due process if over R 500K}? Where was due diligence in the costings used? Who actually owns the land ? Who can raise a personal bond for use on Tribal Land ? Which bank can provide such an unsecured bond / loan? Who is telling the truth? Who is telling lies? If the President of the Republic stood up in Parliament and told the Nation lies, then he must be removed from Office immediately. The Highest office holds the Highest regard for truth - fudge that and it is time to go. About Mangaung - Mothlanthe may not need any nominations as JZ may hand him the Presidency all by himself!

      godfrey.welman - 2012-11-21 20:22 must be anc policy to be corrupt before elected to "most senior post". The top 5 in NC all faces corruption charges.

  • lee.brand.73 - 2012-11-21 16:05

    Ha - more air! Nothing. There is a huge problem here. No facts no details. Trying to think up some credible bs to make this thing go away! At least they figured out why this dirt is surfacing. Mac and his spinners must be wetting their pants! Ha ha ha...

  • sean.noble1 - 2012-11-21 16:06

    Pretty pretty please can i know who Zuma's builders are if he can get a home that size built for 900K i sure as hell want to use them. Cmon 900k is not even enough for that garage.

      patricia.dewet.92 - 2012-11-21 16:25

      It is not even enough for the cars they like.

  • werner.nel.712 - 2012-11-21 16:08

    "ANC internal democracy" Killing one another, buying votes, throwing chairs and fists fights in meetings....

  • darryl.maze1 - 2012-11-21 16:08

    The talk of a dictator party. Be careful ANC, the bigger you are the harder you gonna fall in the end. Keep going the way you are because we cannot wait to see the ANC collapse and when they do the flood gates are gonna open.

      lee.brand.73 - 2012-11-21 16:18

      I actually dont want them to fail. They have done some good things for SA - a while ago granted. I would like to see them get rid of all the sheet and to shrink to 49 - 50 percent. The DA to 49-50 percent. Then you will see democracy in action. Sadly I suspect its Fubar.

      mfanafuthi.mhlungu - 2012-11-21 17:00

      Wake up u are dreaming ppl it wll neva happene.

      brad.ken.18 - 2012-11-22 07:01

      Troll alert! "neva happene".

  • tommy.jones.754918 - 2012-11-21 16:08

    Does anybody know the Farm number?

      colin.dovey - 2012-11-21 16:45


      morne.demeillon - 2012-11-21 16:54

      You don't need a farm number, just look for the only mansion around there.

      denise.ryan.5203 - 2012-11-21 17:54

      It's 10 times the size of Mandela's house in Qunu Transkei.

  • talana.malherbe - 2012-11-21 16:10

    OMW...what is wrong with the ANC??? Who is crying about R900 000??? We want to know where Zoomer got the over R200 million from???? ANC, you think you are so clever making this statement trying to say "Zuma has a bond" does he have a bond of R200 million? THAT AND ONLY THAT WOULD SATISFY US!! CORRUPTION CORRUPTION CORRUPTION CORRUPTION !!!

  • richard.hipkin - 2012-11-21 16:11

    Um yes it is about Mangaung - the ANC need a leadership change NOW.

  • talana.malherbe - 2012-11-21 16:12

    So ANC, what you are actually saying is: "people Zoomer has a bond for R900 000 but the other R239 million you payed" Idiots!

  • jabumokoena.c.7 - 2012-11-21 16:12

    I am also Barack obama's son.

      johan.maree.5036 - 2012-11-21 16:39

      hehe, what? Give this man a bells for an out of nowhere comment...

  • heini.botes - 2012-11-21 16:12

    The utteranses and stupidity that comes out of these cANCer cadre's astounds me every single time!! Do they think we are stupid, come next election....oh wait, nevermind! #peopleareidiots

  • bonkers.derelict - 2012-11-21 16:13

    Zuma was the one who brought up the issue of the bond in the first place, so how can the ANC accuse others of influencing people ahead of Manguang? Also, misleading Parliament is most certainly a "genuine issue".

      narike.lintvelt.9 - 2012-11-21 16:52

      I've started a petition supporting SA's opposition parties' motion of no confidence in Pres Zuma. Please take the time to sign this and pass it on. Thank you.

  • mzwandile.dlamanzi - 2012-11-21 16:15

    A statement like this should come from Zuma faction and not as the capacity of the ANC. Because by so doing automatically you creating a subjective view using the party name.

  • charl.malan.12 - 2012-11-21 16:22

    I must say, the ANC is at the back of the cue for service delivery, basic education, the fight against corruption, basic healthcare, non-racialism! But when it comes to stalling tactics, they are #1 by a country mile! Viva DA for 2014!!

      mfanafuthi.mhlungu - 2012-11-21 16:54

      Shame bantu u are living in Zombi land da wll neve eve win the elections.

      alwyn.vantonder - 2012-11-21 19:37

      EXACTLY! The only reason why the ANC ruled for 18 years, is because they cause confusion!

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-11-21 16:22

    Someone should tell the ANC to think twice before speaking. They are becoming more senile by the day.

  • patricia.dewet.92 - 2012-11-21 16:24

    What is Mangaung got to do with it. It ANC voting for ANC. Unfortunately not all the people in the county. He and the people with the honey pots are scared that the hardworking ANCs' will see them for what they are.

  • morris.khunou - 2012-11-21 16:29

    True we have never and will never be the white owned media with their dirty agenda. I cant stop viewing the houses of Mr Zuma, I like the view! Too smart though not the perfect short! Well done Mr Zuma! Let Jealousy rage on, soon it will be exposed as such! Many will be send home tongue tied with tails between their legs! Failer after more failure! Let them drink the poison of their hatred. You have our protection all the way, be restasured and sleep peacefully!

      charl.malan.12 - 2012-11-21 16:35

      I'm gonna save your name and when showerhead goes to court and then to jail for corruption of the highest level, I will be the one to tell you' I told you so' and then I will sleep peacefully and your tongue will be tied in a double windsor knot!

      NkandlaSpearshaker - 2012-11-21 16:54

      @ Morris. 'Failer (sic) after more failure' hmm-mm? That sums up the ANC: The failed party for the failed - failure after failure ad nauseam. Oh btw: You know that you are foolish, tongue tied and with your tail between you legs and all? Well, now you know that fact at least, 'restasured (sic)and sleep peacefully!'

      morne.demeillon - 2012-11-21 16:56

      Morris you need to move on boet, apartheid is long gone! I know a good doctor, just let me know, ok!

      eben.vanderrmerwe - 2012-11-21 17:21

      Morris you are so stupid not even Zuma(at the bottom of the intelligence pool) will be able to save you!!!!. you are a true patriot of the phraze "leading by example" aren't you. Here's another one more appropriate to you "stupid is, stupid does". I will also be saving your name to bash you with the reality in a cpule of years!!.

      mawandewonderman.mkuba - 2012-11-21 17:42

      Morris you are one irresponsible blind loyalist who has no love for his country. Remember, the love for one's country must exceed that of his leaders.

      denise.ryan.5203 - 2012-11-21 18:00

      A nation of sheep breeds a government of wolves!

      Heather Bruder Henning - 2012-11-21 20:57

      how is it he got a so called bond for that huge amount of money, cant anyone with half a brain work out what the monthly bond payment would be on 240m, oh sorry they claim its a bond for 900 thousand, so where did the rest come from? so many lies, that their lies have lies!! thats explains why their mouths are getting bigger, cause one day soon they will put their foot in it!! and we THE TRUTH WILL BE REVEALED!!!

      Heather Bruder Henning - 2012-11-21 21:04


  • leroy.reynolds.353 - 2012-11-21 16:31

    How can a President of a country such as South africa do such a thing and think for one moment he will get away with it. This is criminal! He cant even be a man and face the music, so what does that say about the character of him and his so called party...O yes i forgot, he thought the job was actually a party!

      denise.ryan.5203 - 2012-11-21 18:11

      The Wilderness is a great place for yesterday’s men with bankrupt ideas to hide out.

  • sam.dihangoane - 2012-11-21 16:32

    Actually JZe is conducting illigal business with the loan sharks. The vote of no confidence must begin within the ANC.

      narike.lintvelt.9 - 2012-11-21 16:52

      I've started a petition supporting SA's opposition parties' motion of no confidence in Pres Zuma. Please take the time to sign this and pass it on. Thank you.

  • sthembiso.jali.50 - 2012-11-21 16:35

    Playing that victim card again ? Then again it worked at polokwane why not now...

  • Erna - 2012-11-21 16:39

    Firstly - 'ANC internal democracy' - the anc doesn't know what the word 'democracy' means. Look at the chaos at the various elective meetings - they prove over and over again that the anc is not a democratic organisation. Secondly - they must separate party from government. We don't care how they handle their 'democratic' elective conference at the end of the year but we do have certain rights when it comes to the way they run the country.

      Thanduxolo Galada - 2012-11-21 20:56

      Agree! (:

      tw2066 - 2012-11-21 22:31

      Well according to Zipper, democracy means do what the majority (ANC) says... hey he said it not me or anyone else.

      frans.visserdsb - 2012-11-23 07:23

      Yeah - according to Zuma, the majority has more rights than other citizens...

  • nathan.g.moss - 2012-11-21 16:53

    Wow, if steeling and defrauding the country out of 240 million is not a ‘genuine issue’, then no wonder the cANCer don’t do anything. The cANCer only concern themselves over major issues that threaten the entire country, like a painting of Zuma in his true form. That’s the last time I saw them react to anything.

  • justsayingagain - 2012-11-21 17:00

    all this talk about a "home" is rather confusing when, in fact, we are talking about the emergence of an entire town, or whatever the vast 'compound' can be called. R900k barely buys you a decent ride these days.

      denise.ryan.5203 - 2012-11-21 18:18

      The Republic of Nkandla is ten times the size of Mandela's house in his hometown Qunu Transkei...

  • NkandlaSpearshaker - 2012-11-21 17:00

    @ANC: So what? You & he deserve it and much, much more ridicule and cynicism! He, your useless president, mentioned the bond in parliament to cover up his lies and gross dishonesty. Useless bunch of fools! Take that and much more because you dug your own grave.

  • khethu.ndlovu.3 - 2012-11-21 17:08

    The last time i experienced any democracy in south africa was when we voted for mandela and a little of it during mbeki's era. Now its semi dictatorship, but m so sure we are heading towards a full blown one.

  • lungie.dube.3 - 2012-11-21 17:20

    Corruption is in many forms,,,u can look at the money side, forgeting about the media,,,some people r good at influencing people through lies in order to gain trust from the so dat they can be voted into power,,,I don't know wat next,,,politics is politics, u can't change it

      Bridgette Mabilapso - 2012-11-21 20:05

      yes he Stood in front of million nd said he will give but he lied i never gave but took and still taking from us !

  • vivian.harris.73 - 2012-11-21 17:23 he's got a bond for 900K. Fine. What we want know is why is his upgrades to that property costing R250 million. Who is paying that? That is tax payers money ment to improve the lives of SAfrican citizens not for his property. That was the whole issue here...

  • bryan.culross - 2012-11-21 17:38

    As bonds are registered with the deeds office they are not confidential information and anyone has the right to access this information.

  • muke.matshaba - 2012-11-21 18:41

    The fact remain is that zuma is the most Scandallous leader south africa has ever had.He forgets one thing u cant fool the youth of today,

      heini.botes - 2012-11-22 13:08

      I agree up to the part..."u cant fool the youth of today" I'm afraid 63%+ in every election tells otherwise. Sheep following a wolf?

  • Sakhiwo - 2012-11-21 18:52

    Hope so

  • mammudi.makgaleng.3 - 2012-11-21 18:58

    You go FOOLS. Nothing of sense l expect to hear from you. You are nothing but useless bunch of embarrassment to our lovely country. Shame on you.

  • mncedisipride.blakfesi - 2012-11-21 19:26

    Can somebody from the self proclaimedintelligent people do a little mathematics,and start by supracting R900 000 (bond) fromR250 000 000(Nkadlaville value) and give the answers the people are looking for.We need to move forward as there are a lot of serious issues to attend to.One more thing,I think I see sand on the shoes of that man sitting on the wheel chair!Shall we trust him?

  • mncedisipride.blakfesi - 2012-11-21 19:27

    Can somebody from the self proclaimedintelligent people do a little mathematics,and start by supracting R900 000 (bond) fromR250 000 000(Nkadlaville value) and give the answers the people are looking for.We need to move forward as there are a lot of serious issues to attend to.Wait a minute!I think I see sand on the shoes of that man sitting on the wheel chair!Shall we trust him?

      Bridgette Mabilapso - 2012-11-21 20:00

      well we are done trusting him! he has made a mockery of us its enough.

      heini.botes - 2012-11-22 13:09

      @Brigette...mockery is still a nice word sister for what this fool and his cadres have done

  • Riaan Cloete - 2012-11-21 19:51

    And to think they are so stupid to think we will fall for that one

      Heather Bruder Henning - 2012-11-21 21:09

      You quite right they hoping the not so intelligent will fall for it, again I say SO MANY LIES THEIR LIES HAVE LIES!!

  • Olwami 'Olivesta' Mtshali - 2012-11-21 21:44

    To truly know a person u must give them power. Zuma has shown the world and South Africa what kind of person he really is.

  • tw2066 - 2012-11-21 22:29

    "It is evident that the opposition has run out of genuine issues and resort to clutching at straws." So housing for the poor is not genuine according to the ANC, nor is morality or wasteful expenditure. Says alot about these goons.

  • braamc - 2012-11-22 06:59

    Zoomer is a thieving criminal

  • malibongwe.maqekeni - 2012-11-23 11:02


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