No comment - youth league

2012-02-29 16:00

Johannesburg - Don’t talk to me, talk to my lawyer.

That was the pre-emptive message by the ANC Youth League in anticipation of an announcement on Wednesday on the fate of its leader Julius Malema.

On Wednesday afternoon, the league said in a statement it wouldn’t be commenting on the announcement by the ANC’s national disciplinary committee (NDC).

It was expected that Malema’s lawyers would be meeting with the NDC at 15:00, before ANC officials were informed, and before a statement was sent out to inform the public.

But it has now been reported that Malema has lodged a formal complaint about getting too short notice about the NDC’s decision. The committee said in a press release around 08:00 on Wednesday that it would announce its verdict later today.

League spokesperson Floyd Shivambu said in a statement that the league’s leadership “would not take any media enquiry to respond to the outcomes of the ANC disciplinary process”.

The NDC said in its statement this morning that it “had applied its collective mind”.

Malema’s lawyer on Wednesday confirmed that the suspended youth league leader is in Seshego in Limpopo but that the NDC’s verdict was too “short-notice” for all concerned.

It is unclear what will happen if Malema doesn't receive the verdict in person, but in November, when the NDC announced its original verdict, the young leader sent representatives to receive it. At the time he was in Polokwane where he wrote an exam.


Wednesday would not be the end of the road for the young firebrand, as he would be allowed to appeal the NDC’s decision on his sentence to the party’s NDC of appeal.

Following that, he could still approach the party’s national executive committee (NEC), and finally the conference in December in Mangaung, to ask for reinstatement as an ANC member.

If he followed the latter route of asking the NEC or conference to review the disciplinary committee’s decision, the ANC Youth League might be required to call another conference to re-elect Malema before he could be reinstated as its leader.

Earlier this month Malema asked for his five-year suspension from the party, for sowing division in its ranks, to be reduced, while Shivambu asked for a reduction of his three-year suspension for swearing at a journalist, and secretary general Sindiso Magaqa asked for mitigation of his suspended sentence for defaming Public Enterprises Minister Malusi Gigaba.

All of them were also found guilty of saying regime change should be brought about in Botswana, something which was counter to ANC policy.


Malema could see his sentence reduced on Wednesday, but he could also finally be expelled from the party.

The last prominent ANC leader to be expelled from the party was UDM leader Bantu Holomisa in 1996.

During the mitigation hearings, ANC prosecutors argued for aggravation of the sentence because Malema and his colleagues didn’t show remorse.

They also made public pronouncements, such as referring to leaders within the ANC as “the enemy” and singing songs about shower men, deriding President Jacob Zuma.

Malema and five others from the league were charged in August last year, and found guilty and sentenced in November.

But they told the appeal committee that they should have been given a chance to argue for mitigation of their sentences before being sentenced.

The appeal committee earlier this month upheld the NDC’s findings, but dropped one charge related to the league’s leadership barging into a meeting of the ANC’s officials.

This meant Malema’s deputy Ronald Lamola, league treasurer Pule Mabe, and deputy secretary general Kenetswe Mosenogi had no charges remaining against them.

Malema, Shivambu and Magaqa went on to argue for mitigation.

Malema has been defiant all through his disciplinary hearing.

This week he told a mini-rally in Soweto and while addressing striking miners in Rustenburg that his blood remained “black, green and gold”.

He also said the ANC was in his DNA, and accused the party of forsaking its children.

  • jaz82 - 2012-02-29 16:19

    Legal Wise

      Henri - 2012-02-29 16:21

      So, Julius, we hear you are a bread winner in the Malema family! JM: You see, people like saying all these sorts of things about me and its fine. Anyone who claims that I'm a bread winner must come forward with evidence and prove to the people that indeed, I entered a bread competition. According to my knowledge, I have never entered any bread competition. Bring the evidence - I'm not afraid

      procold2 - 2012-02-29 16:25

      he will need them if he is going to appeal again, maybe he doesnt get the message that he is no longer needed

      Jono - 2012-02-29 16:25

      i wish they can just get rid of this ET and move on!

      Robert - 2012-02-29 16:26


      Henri - 2012-02-29 16:27

      Malema and his bodyguards are making letter bombs. One of the bodyguards: "I'm not sure whether I put enough explosive in this envelope before I sealed it." Malema: "Well, then open it and look." Bodyguard: "But if I open it, it will explode!" Malema: "Don't be stupid – it's not addressed to you!"

      marcelminnaar - 2012-02-29 16:46

      You mean, Talk to my white lawyers! Oh Julius... Why dont you just quit...

      Peter-Peter - 2012-02-29 16:47

      I dont think he knows "Legal Wise"...only "Street Wise" (feast)

      Trevor - 2012-02-29 16:58

      Yeah, we own this country the mines, casinos, banks,big business, roads, we even own the government. We cant let this guy ruin it for us. We even build him a R2mil house and charge him R16mil for it. Let him go and live in Soweto and send Sowerhead with him

  • Martin - 2012-02-29 16:20

    i take that as a jeewlius was dismissed otherwise he'd be gloating already

  • Ben - 2012-02-29 16:21

    I dont care what they say, but please can you refrain from placing his photo. We have a good idea of what he looks like.

      Peter-Peter - 2012-02-29 16:24

      Yeah.. although it would be nice to have a pic him about to cry when he hears the verdict

      Jannie - 2012-02-29 17:13

      Good advice: Hang his picture behind the toilet door. When you suffer with constipation, look at his picture and tjorts, problem solved!!!

      trix.duvenage - 2012-02-29 17:16

      To be honest, I think I will avoid this aspect [Juli-arse and his YL] until the bright ANC ndc has decided what to do with the little mongrel. This is time consuming and a blooddy nuisance to read and reread every day. I wonder if somebody is making money when NEWS 24 places all these articles about mal-moer's madness on the website every day. what a waste

  • Rudie - 2012-02-29 16:24

    So all snotkoppies come to an end. Back to the woodworks JM.Hahahaha

      Sharon - 2012-02-29 18:22

      I wonder what he is going to be when he grows up.

  • Arnold - 2012-02-29 16:24

    how come they just cant make a decisive decision.

      Robert - 2012-02-29 16:26

      They will, they're just still on lunch

  • E=MC2 - 2012-02-29 16:25

    Let the implode begin! :-)

  • Getafix - 2012-02-29 16:26

    Pity he has made off with the loot (500mil Rand +/-) and nothing has come of that... When will they finish investigating the fraud and corruption on this guy?

  • Bryon - 2012-02-29 16:26

    Applied their collective brain cell, ha ha.

  • Gene - 2012-02-29 16:27

    Mansion in Sandton next door to all the capitalists R16 000 000-00 Breitling Watch - R85 000-00 Range Rover Sports - R 1 200 000-00 Watching "Malema" getting fired from the party he calls home ...Priceless

      Richard - 2012-02-29 17:02

      It is simply astounding how much you can actually buy with a R 20 000.00 per month salary. Talk about learning to stretch the rand.

  • Robert - 2012-02-29 16:27

    Is it just me or does Blubberguts Fat Boy have a serious HIT ME face?

      Louise Higham - 2012-02-29 18:02

      Oh yes please its begging for a snot klap or 6

  • Thelma - 2012-02-29 16:27

    Hopefully this is the end of JuJu political career......or so we hope!!!!

  • Cast53 - 2012-02-29 16:28

    SO they go to the NDC which find them guilty, then they go to the NDCA to appeal the sentence, then they get referred back to the NDC, then they can appeal it at the NDCA, is it just me or is it sound like an never ending cycle????

      trix.duvenage - 2012-02-29 17:20

      circle or circus??

  • James Hurly - 2012-02-29 16:29

    By the end of the 5 years he will still be allowed to appeal...malema is going to be "suspended" president of the youth league for a long time to come

  • pierre.brink - 2012-02-29 16:31

    Are those the three white lawyers who irritates him so much???

  • tshifhiwa.ramalisa - 2012-02-29 16:33

    Pity to those who knows a cheap or little about politics,the only time you can write off President Malema is when the NEC refuses to accpet his request for re-instatement at Mangaung in Dec 2012.So for now all those who are suffering from Malema's phobia,keep on dreaming and smoking because it;s not the end of him.

      John - 2012-02-29 17:25

      Well lets just hope that his appeal to Mangaung in December is from the inside of a prison cell

      pierre.brink - 2012-02-29 17:41

      Pity those who know not how to construct a proper sentence. How do you know a 'cheap'? How do you 'accpet' a request? Surely you mean grant. What is Malema's phobia? Is it being found out to be a self-centred, egotistical, megalomaniacal, racist, hate mongerer, with an insatiable appetite for corrupt power and the fruits that it bears in a dysfunctional state that allows such an abomination to exist? Or is it that the trusting, misinformed and fastly diminishing bunch of zealots who support him finally wake up and realise that he cares not one iota for them?

      Mano-Lee - 2012-02-29 17:53

      mwaa haa haaaaa... president juju.... hah haaa haaaaa....

  • markus.botha - 2012-02-29 16:35

    What is this stump still doing here?! The anc really takes their time with everything, don't they!

  • Orapeleng Molosiwa - 2012-02-29 16:45

    My president,my president,Malema you are my president ...!

      Robert - 2012-02-29 16:57

      That what the racist youth said about Mugabe. Now they have no jobs, no food, no economy and have miserable lives. See what their 'president' got them ???

      Mano-Lee - 2012-02-29 17:00

      @orapeleng - banana, banana, you are my country I'm sure thats what you meant

      trix.duvenage - 2012-02-29 17:43

      Mugabe...... Mugabe.... you are my president..... you are my hero..... you are my sunshine.... Mugabe. Now Mugabe owns the world in property and his followers are starving right next to his house. Mugabe suffers from Altsheimers because he cannot remember a thing about what he promised his faithfull worshippers. malema also promises everything with his brainy scemes. Now he has a bank account of 54 mil Rand and a fraud case against him that involves 400 mil Rands.... and you my dear Molosiwa are so intoxicated by your beloved 'president' that you are too blind to see what he is up to. Wake up and get wise. The only GOOD Malema is the malema who is safely locked up for the next 20 years or so.

      Louise Higham - 2012-02-29 17:59

      You poor sick, blind, ignorant person, time to go back to hospital for your medication. Can't have u on the streets with your condition.

  • schalkjburger - 2012-02-29 16:47

    why is everyone so happy...he'll just appeal against the ruling of his last appeal! the anc leaves so many door open...its a joke. Oddly enough, i certainly do not recall Holomisa's suspension taking THIS long.

  • Mandu Ngcobo - 2012-02-29 16:50

    That's a first.

  • Richard - 2012-02-29 17:00

    Good grief how many opportunities does he get to appeal. At this rate he will be an old man before the appeal process is finalized.

  • trix.duvenage - 2012-02-29 17:12

    This is a lot of crap. Now he will be allowed to appeal against the findings if the NDC. Have you ever heard of a bigger circus than this. EVER????? I have heard of sick systems before and stupid systems but this one absolutely tops them all....

  • Deon - 2012-02-29 17:14

    Is this now your white lawyer or your black lawyer?

  • Edwin Malose - 2012-02-29 17:15

    Expel the moron 4 gud secnd appeal.thats unfair labour practise

  • Avhasei - 2012-02-29 17:15

    Even if they suspend him now, we will vote him back on the 02 december 2012 at mangaun. those who hate him its becouse they are afraid of him. rule malema rule.

      trix.duvenage - 2012-02-29 17:46

      Im only afraid they forget to lock him away for good as that is where the scunk belongs....

  • John - 2012-02-29 17:21

    F*k... The chain of appeals just doesn't end.... And when it does... he won't go away.... watch this space. He's like a virus, just keeps spreading, and thats what scares his makers.

  • grant.peterson1 - 2012-02-29 17:23

    So he can appeal the appeal, and then appeal that appeal as well.....and then he could go to the NEC if he doesn't like what the NDC says......and then go to a conference to appeal there! Is this a disciplinary hearing or a murder trial! For heavens sake this brings new meaning to an inefficient process.

  • phathuchicos - 2012-02-29 17:41

    Do we have to move heaven and earth just to eliminate one immoral brat in a country full of professional life terminators...

  • John - 2012-02-29 17:49

    No comment.... thats a first for the ANCYL

  • Louise Higham - 2012-02-29 17:54

    Malema has nothing to say - how unusual. It will be great if we are not subjected to his speeches, rantings and threat. He is just a fat corrupt lay about.

  • Paul - 2012-02-29 17:58

    We need a leader with Malema's guts. Not his ideas, but his fearlessness

      Theo - 2012-02-29 19:00

      Eish Paul i know you cant get your medication since all state hopitals have run out of supplies.

  • Sean - 2012-02-29 17:58

    Hope he gets his membership money back if he's expelled, oh wait he never paid it in the first place!

  • BM - 2012-02-29 18:02

    It will be sad if the accused can approach the NEC for appeal. This will mean that the NDC has no authority. Why then have so much time bn wasted?

  • Louise Higham - 2012-02-29 18:10

    All these comment saying' bring malema back my leader', do u really believe he is interested in your welfare. Sorry for u - he has only eyes for Malema.

  • victor.kaumba - 2012-02-29 19:25

    He is truly a sibling of the ANC...Alas! his arrogance and lack of humility has swayed a lot of favour away from him

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