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No confidence in Zuma motion tabled in Parly

2012-11-08 14:36

Cape Town - Leader of the opposition Lindiwe Mazibuko tabled a motion of no confidence in President Jacob Zuma in the National Assembly on Thursday afternoon.

But the ANC has filed a counter-motion.

The motion was brought on the grounds "that under his leadership the justice system has been politicised and weakened; corruption has spiralled out of control; unemployment continues to increase, the economy is weakening, and, the right of access to quality education has been violated".

The motion was "mandated" by eight opposition parties, including the African Christian Democratic Party, the Azanian People's Organisation, the Congress of the People, the Democratic Alliance, the Freedom Front Plus, the Inkatha Freedom Party, the United Christian Democratic Party, and the United Democratic Movement.

Briefing the media ahead of Tuesday's 14:00 sitting, Cope leader Mosiuoa Lekota - flanked by leaders and representatives from the other seven parties - said the motion was prompted by a "mounting crisis of leadership" in South Africa.

It was being brought in terms of Section 102 of the Constitution.

Lekota said the joint decision was triggered by the Marikana tragedy; the "appalling Nkandlagate scandal"; the government's failure to deliver textbooks to school children in Limpopo and the Eastern Cape; the downgrading of South Africa's credit rating by two major rating agencies; a "mounting disrespect" for the country's Constitution and judiciary; the growing number of unemployed; and, a "rising tide" of corruption in the public service.

"All of these collectively point to the reality that ours is a country which lacks decisive leadership and vision," he said.

Secret ballot

Lekota said the opposition parties were seeking a "secret ballot" on the matter in the House.

"The situation that has arisen in the country has touched our consciences. We feel that if we don't raise this matter [in] the House, we would be failing in our duty.

"It is necessary that we ask and obtain at least assurance by the Speaker that there should be a secret ballot.

"Let each and every member in the National Assembly be given full protection, and an opportunity to exercise their vote guided by their conscience, and not be threatened...," he said.

IFP leader Mangosuthu Buthelezi said it had not been an easy decision to opt to participate in a no-confidence vote. He and his party had "done its best" to support all the presidents of South Africa.

"However, we have reached a point at which we can no longer support this president, and if we continue to support him we become part of his failures and the failures into which he has now led our country," he said.

ACDP leader Kenneth Meshoe said he had also found the decision a difficult one, "but having considered the state of the country... and particularly the amount of money that is being spent on the president's private residence, we feel we have no option" but to do so.

Responding to a question, Mazibuko said the motion was an important one and "frankly, a dereliction of duty for Parliament not to table it and debate it at the earliest opportunity".

The opposition grouping would "appeal to every forum that makes programming decisions, to ensure that this debate takes place as soon as possible".

These would include the chief whips' forum, the programming committee and the programming whips of Parliament.

"I have no doubt that the Speaker will recognise the gravity and importance, not only of this motion, but of the fact that this many opposition parties have come together and submitted it, to make it a priority to table it as soon as possible," she said.

Comments
  • jackal666.daniel - 2012-11-08 14:42

    YES!!! Finally I hope it passes!

      johan.jacobs.5680 - 2012-11-08 15:11

      F@rting against thunder.

      colin.dovey - 2012-11-08 15:17

      Thundering against F@rts :-)

      jackal666.daniel - 2012-11-08 15:19

      mfanafuthi.mhlungu LOL at your education!

      marc.ross.965 - 2012-11-09 13:04

      Has anyone else had this stomache bug lately? I've been passing Zuma's all day.

      rowan.clark.10 - 2012-11-10 14:52

      WOW ! All the opposition agreed on this ,is this the beginning of a movement in the bowels of parliament to purge some waste !!

      mc.segal.5 - 2012-11-10 19:09

      Well;;; to remain silent is to agree.....

  • arthurenlouise.tarr - 2012-11-08 14:42

    LINDIWE for President!!!!! GO!!!!!! GO!!!!!! !!!

      ed.gutsche - 2012-11-08 15:59

      dude, i cant stand Zuma, but between godzille and mazibuko...eish, they scare the living daylights oit of me and can also not be trusted. do you really think that they do it all for everyones good?

      richard.hipkin - 2012-11-08 16:10

      @ed, well Zuma's only doing it for himself, so I'd say at least Zille and Lindiwe would do it for more, yes.

      Bobbycat - 2012-11-08 17:25

      ANY decent leadership!!!!! GO!!!!!! GO!!!!!! !!!

      aniken.vader.31 - 2012-11-09 08:40

      ed - WHY are you scared by two women? What did they EVER do to distrust them? I mean the anc has done SO MUCH to create distrust in them, but WHAT did the DA EVER do to distrust them? They have the BEST RUN ARE IN THE COUNTRY. THE BEST RUN CITY IN THE WORLD..! Don;t trust me, they got AWARDS for that! They have CLEAR POLICIES - which the anc borrows now and then...! They BORROW THE POLICIES ON PAPER ONLY - because when it comes to IMPLEMENTING ANY POLICY - they FAIL! I just thin kthe best way A TRUST IS EARNED IS THROUGH PROOF OF SERVICE DELIVERY - ANC FAILED ALL THE TIME! This is NOT about a person - the ENTIRE anc failed! NOT ZUMA ALONE! I put it to you that you are blindly voting for the anc and so many do, just because of unfounded fear..! The fear of apartheid coming back - IT CAN'T!!!!! We have LEARNED THE HARD WAY THAT THE APARTHEID IS SECLUDING US INTERNATIONALLY! Right NOW we are heading for the same seclusion because of Zimbabwe-like policies..! My thought is - GIVE THE DA A CHANCE before you get fearful of the unknown...!

  • braamc - 2012-11-08 14:44

    Get rid of the criminal

      johan.mostert.967 - 2012-11-08 14:51

      To be replaced by another...

      saffaseun.inoz - 2012-11-08 16:17

      Stop deleting my post news24! Is it because I am white? I'll keep on telling mfanafutututu all day long that he is a black racist that cannot spell!!

  • Eterni80 - 2012-11-08 14:45

    while I admire your courage, there's not a snowballs hope in hell that the ANC will allow JZ or any of its members to be removed from their place at the trough. they've become addicted to easy access to taxpayers money. just this morning the star reports a billion rand looted from states coffers. history will view the ANC as the authors of SA's slow death

      herman.booysen2 - 2012-11-08 15:12

      It is in a spiral now, it will start to pick up speed as the nose is dropping.

      heinrich.etsebeth - 2012-11-08 17:46

      What do you think foreign investors will say when they catch wind of this? And believe me they will. A motion such as this is not something that flies under the radar. This I am afraid is a serious economic deal-breaker.

      jacowium - 2012-11-09 13:23

      I think foreign investors may say, "good, get rid of the rubbish". I don't think the economy will pick up as other criminals are waiting in the wings to take Zuma's place, but I doubt foreign investors keep their money here on account of Zuma's spearsmanship.

  • adriaan.pieterse - 2012-11-08 14:47

    I support this motion 100% It's time for Zuma to zoom off!

      nettie.potgieter.5 - 2012-11-08 14:50

      Zoom of Adriaan? Ek ken tenminst tien ander beskrywings! Dit in engels en meer in afrikaans!

      saffaseun.inoz - 2012-11-08 16:08

      Might be mandlo? I know you are both, no doubt about that. Racist.

  • osmaseko - 2012-11-08 14:47

    Get rid of the shower man

      kala.bafazi - 2012-11-08 14:52

      Down the drain!

  • Gerhard - 2012-11-08 14:48

    Amen!!!!!

  • steve.ritchie.739 - 2012-11-08 14:50

    I wonder on what grounds the cANCer has filed a counter motion? Lindiwe and all the other parties are quite correct. In fact, Lindiwe would make a great first woman president of this country.

      Bobbycat - 2012-11-08 17:28

      On the grounds of "it's racist and reminiscent of an apartheid-style motion" ... yawn.

      siyabonga.nkosi.10 - 2012-11-08 19:29

      Steve, it is so unfortunately that the da will not see it that way

  • warwick.railton.7 - 2012-11-08 14:51

    Don't forget the e-tolling debacle.

      frans.visserdsb - 2012-11-08 14:55

      true - in the e-tolling saga, the ANC and Cosatu find themselves at loggerheads. The motion may just carry if the ANC mp's vote along the tri-partite alliance lines instead of as a block...very faint hope, but a hope, nonetheless.

      mc.segal.5 - 2012-11-10 19:14

      And Dont buy an etag...

  • nicolas.gombert.16 - 2012-11-08 14:53

    Well, this is normal for the opposition to propose a motion of no confidence. I, however, will not put any money on the motion being carried as the Zumaoits will just use their vote to dismiss it. The next president (be it Zuma or not), will be selected by the ANC branches, a group of about 500 bum-baring, chair-throwing individuals who are only there to enrich themselves.

      morris.khunou - 2012-11-09 08:56

      The motion will easily be doomed away and the feeling will be like dooming cocroaches all gathered in one place! Great feeling indeed, cant wait!

      Dee Bone - 2013-06-12 18:28

      dont forget Scamral leeches who will send billions to foreign companies.

  • heinrich.spreeth - 2012-11-08 14:54

    Once every blue moon you read an article about something that someone in parliament said that you agree with 100%. I LOVE IT!!!!

      Bobbycat - 2012-11-08 17:35

      I love what the DA are doing recently - politics is about headlines and they are making waves but it's only going to culminate into something real in about seven or eight years time. When Lindiwe is at the front, they will get start to cut into the ANC vote.

      siyabonga.nkosi.10 - 2012-11-08 19:34

      Honestly speaking even if Lindiwe can become the leader, people still wont vote for the DA. Trust me on this one cause I know it for sure unless my experience is worth nothing at all

      heinrich.spreeth - 2012-11-09 11:21

      siyabonga , that is actually fine. I have no issues if the ANC splits up into multiple smaller parties and the votes split up. It won't happen in the next election. But people will start thinking. "you know voting anc has done nothing for me in the last 25 years , just maybe I must vote differently. Voting differently doesn't mean apartheid will be back or i'll loose my house or somebody will harm me. But that time is sadly still a bit far in the future. With the current trend the ANC is going to mil this country and it's taxpayers for a few years more. And for some reason the DA or white man is to be blamed for everything that currently goes wrong.

  • dave.elmore.5 - 2012-11-08 14:55

    Nice to the the opposition working together on this one

      dave.elmore.5 - 2012-11-08 15:12

      Actually, it looks like the 63% are going to be the ones ending up losing....shame man

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-11-08 15:45

      Hey mfanafuthi.mhlungu Would you prefer we go back to the old days when only one party ruled and no one dare object? This isn't Iran or North Korea. If you want to live in a dictatorship, f**k off.

  • John.Yossarian22 - 2012-11-08 14:56

    "The ANC has filed a counter-motion." Brown-nosing of the worst kind. Would love to see what it's based on. Sadly, the counter-motion will be passed. Hopefully not long before they get voted out.

      lorain.maseko - 2012-11-08 15:27

      @ John.Yossarian22 - Dont say brown-nose it's racist.

  • tony.naidoo - 2012-11-08 14:56

    About time! Admire the collective effort. Bodes well for the next nat poll !

  • mark.haupt.31 - 2012-11-08 14:59

    Sounds great, let's get rid of the rubbish

      maureen.churchill.9 - 2012-11-09 11:37

      Secret ballot....Have you all got the balls to now examine your inner sense of honesty and vote.

  • philemonmaepa.phatlane - 2012-11-08 15:00

    any parental guidance for lindiwe?was she born during apartheid or after?

      lorain.maseko - 2012-11-08 15:21

      Regardless,she's telling the truth, Zuma has become nothing but an embarassment

      heini.botes - 2012-11-08 15:34

      Chip on your shoulder there philemonmaepa? Shame.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-11-08 16:13

      Don't worry phile, there is a place in the new SA for you as well ;)

      dee.bone.39 - 2012-11-08 23:24

      @ phil and mhlungu. Sad thing is ANC top brass know JZ is useless. They need him to take flack and attention from their stealing. Can u imagine what kick backs he's getting from the likes of the Guptas and chinese who are also feeding off our country's wealth. And here you are happy with what's happening. It,s simply insane or stupid that u can be supportive of our country being raped the way it is. U have to understand that even big White Business are even happy that JZ is the idiot in charge. The banks are over the moon with the ANC running the show. You just have to open your eyes to who's making the real big money. Like Billerton enjoyining free electricity at your and my expense. When they've bled the country dry they'll just move on. And you're supporting your own rape'? How messed up

  • sachasea - 2012-11-08 15:02

    I can't help, but feel that this is a desperate yet completely futile exercise.

      maylani.bezuidenhout - 2012-11-09 10:11

      But an important sign.. If the opposition continue working together like this it can only benefit the rest of us. Makes me laugh how you insecure lot can only fault Lindiwe on her appearance, her accent.. nothing of substance. At least she is doing her job, not kitting out her palace and sleeping around while the country burns.

  • lunghile.ndleve - 2012-11-08 15:03

    Ya please get rid of that joker!!!! A year and half is a long time to wait!!! In fact is it possible to have a vote of no confidence against the whole ANC, coz they probably have a back up joker waiting to make our country even worse?

      heini.botes - 2012-11-08 15:36

      It's been a steady downward spiral since Madiba left my friend, and in the last two years it has picked up a lot of speed!

      mfanafuthi.mhlungu - 2012-11-08 18:55

      shame on u lungile uzalwa ugogo zille, u know nothin abt s a

      herman.burger.5 - 2012-11-08 19:20

      Judging from this forum NO shortage of jokers: mfansomethingmulugu to name but one!

      siyabonga.nkosi.10 - 2012-11-08 19:45

      To Heini, can you please tell us what exactly is it that you so admire Mandela for? its interesting I wanna know because as for me I believe he is getting too much attention than he deserve

      maylani.bezuidenhout - 2012-11-09 10:24

      Me, me I can answer that one. Mandela is a born leader to all the people of this country. The fastest way to bring economic development to South Africa is with leadership and decisive action that the rest of the world respects. It will result in direct foreign investment and employment for the millions of South Africans we desperately need it. Zuma has been nothing but bad PR for us because he is owned by people who only have their own interests at heart. We have this bloated, rotten civil service that fails to even provide a decent education. Time to fire and hire!

  • jaun.lombard.9 - 2012-11-08 15:04

    pfft...need 66.66% to pass this motion...ANC hold more than 60%

      dave.elmore.5 - 2012-11-08 15:15

      We are all well aware of that, dont think that is necessarliy the point here, the fact is that a motion of no confidence has now been tabled in Parliament against the president of this country, which will only bring on further debate as to his incompetence

      nettie.potgieter.5 - 2012-11-08 15:24

      I know it is a bit of wishfull thinking but maybe some of the ANC fellows start thinking with their brains and not their harts!!!!!!

      khethu.ndlovu.3 - 2012-11-08 15:37

      If it can be a secret ballot mark my word the man is out before i say mangaung.

      bheki.dingiswayo - 2012-11-09 08:15

      Some ANC member will stand with the opposition in the secret ballot

  • BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-11-08 15:05

    Away Zuma away. Away with ANC away. Viva South Africa Viva

  • jaco.bruwer.73 - 2012-11-08 15:06

    Lindiwe Mazibuko well said.

  • Joalane Mareletse - 2012-11-08 15:08

    soon they r gona say Lindiwe is being racist!

      heini.botes - 2012-11-08 15:37

      Pick a card any card :-)

  • johan.nothnagel.35 - 2012-11-08 15:09

    So I am watching TV with my son this morning. He says I can watch the news, we can watch Tom and Jerry later. I told him no worries my boy...its the same thing.

  • zwelakhe.sithole.1 - 2012-11-08 15:10

    Why the opposition are picking on JZ? The problem is with the ANC. JZ did not make himself the President of the country and people did not vote for him either.

      p.borchard - 2012-11-08 15:53

      Zwelakhe, without meaning to, you have hit on 2 very serious points - 1. The ANC is seriously vrot 2. Other than the ANC cronies, JZ was not voted for by the rest of South Africa, so why do we have to sit by and accept it when he and his family are so openly corrupt and useless?

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-11-08 15:57

      If he was incapable of being an effective leader, why was he up for election anyway?

  • sean.noble1 - 2012-11-08 15:12

    Wonder who the ANC will try and bully to pull out of this unity shown by minority parties.

  • tshidiso.mokhosi - 2012-11-08 15:14

    Zuma must go now we cant wait for 2014 change should happen now.Zuma's enemies in his party must join opposition parties in removing this boy form his post.They have nothing to lose.

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-11-08 16:00

      Agreed. If they cannot do the job properly, and just keep blaming blaming, then another, more capable party needs to take over. That is how democracy works. We need to stand together to get rid of these selfish bastards. The only people in the ANC that do a good job are Naledo Pandor, Trevor Manuel and Derek Hanekom

      siyabonga.nkosi.10 - 2012-11-08 19:52

      Tshidiso - who brought you up, a person that is old enough to be your father you address him by boy. shame on you, your parents clearly lacks respect teachings. eish you are a disgrace my boy. I dont support Zuma by the way and would like to know what was the motive behind using the boy word

      wo0two0t - 2012-11-09 13:50

      Zuma isn’t even a boy that’s being polite - he is a disgusting self-serving selfish useless waste of air and that’s also putting it lightly.

  • muke.matshaba - 2012-11-08 15:15

    Look at Syria now, It all started cause of the unwanted president,if he gets a second term we r doomed

  • Don.Tandy - 2012-11-08 15:16

    Every time I 'pass a motion', it makes me think of showerhead.

      stephen.j.dickson.3 - 2012-11-08 15:47

      When I "pass a Zuma motion" I make sure I always wipe my Malema with Maharaj paper.

  • phumi.ntlabati - 2012-11-08 15:19

    In progressive countries like China, Russia and Cuba. It is a criminal offense to discredit or undermine a current sitting president!I do not know why we do not look up to them?

      lesego.boikanyo.79 - 2012-11-08 15:20

      Those countries have never had clowns for presidents.

      chris.shield - 2012-11-08 15:25

      I hope you're being sarcastic. Those are 3 of the most oppressive regimes on the planet...

      BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-11-08 15:39

      What an idiotic comment. Who in their right minds would make such a comment?....... oh of course, never mind.

      heini.botes - 2012-11-08 15:39

      Whahahah @ Lesogo!! Phumi 0-1 Lesego

      Mbavhalelo - 2012-11-08 15:41

      U mean de dictators should be our models, forget it, ur so called president is looting state resources, hw can a man build a house worth almost a quota of a million and u still want to be tribalistic abt it. Look dude dis president must be removed. Even very rich people dont have such houses, zuma should leave government and it will make it easy for us 2 continue with oliver thambo's legacy

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-11-08 15:55

      Let those countries have as their 'president' just for one week and see how they will fare

      flysouth - 2012-11-08 16:26

      That's right phumi - you do not know, so what are you doing commenting here?

      tasmee.hylkema - 2012-11-08 18:54

      progressive countries..............lmao!!!!!!!!!! Cuba, Russia, China...........!! I dont think so! The fact of the matter remains, in the real world, respect and trust is earned, and by now if you are interacting with other people within your community, you will realise that Zuma Zipper Showerhead, Spearhead, jackass has earned NO respect and has no dignity!

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-11-09 12:06

      Phumi. ntlabati., progressive countries? What are you talking about?. Some people just don't get it and probably never will.

      jacowium - 2012-11-09 13:38

      Phumi writes: "In progressive countries [... it] is a criminal offense to discredit or undermine a current sitting president." Spot the irony.

  • hudayfah.newman - 2012-11-08 15:20

    I'm sure he's having a giggle reading this.

  • xanavin.vonbuchenroder - 2012-11-08 15:21

    Now only???

  • brad.herbert.522 - 2012-11-08 15:27

    HAHAHAHA I hope they pursue this all the way until that fat useless excuse for a human being is thrown out. Hopefully the rest of the anc will follow!!!

  • levi.malevu - 2012-11-08 15:27

    Hmmm, we've got an elephant in the parliarment

      mark.duplooy.10 - 2012-11-08 16:30

      yes and the elephant is educated!so mark your words!

      tasmee.hylkema - 2012-11-08 19:00

      yeah and we also have plenty of hippos in cabinet too, its quite a zoo in there!!

      lesleyb.smit - 2012-11-08 19:07

      Clearly you cannot argue Lindiwe's very valid points for impeaching JZ so you attack her, on a personal level. Rather pathetic of you, don't you think? (Rhetorical question of course)

      levi.malevu - 2012-11-08 22:07

      Racial vitriol you guys are spewing here on news24 is beyond comprehension, you completely missed my point. Until you understand that we need each other regardless of our fabric, colors and all, as citizens of this country, only then will your mind begin functioning

      maylani.bezuidenhout - 2012-11-09 10:37

      Levi, was it a play on 'elephant in the room'?

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-11-09 12:13

      Levi.malevu. An elephant with morals is much better than a pig without.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-11-09 12:16

      Levi.malevu, So till then it is fine for you to talk about elephants in parliament. Where is my racial vitriol?

  • terrylee.heuer - 2012-11-08 15:28

    Please Mr Zuma will you do the right thing and step down as President of our country!! I love my country but feel like I'm living in a twilight zone, I want to feel proud of my President but I unfortunately do not have any respect for you as respect is earned and you haven't earned it!! Everything that could go wrong is going wrong under your leadership! You say the ANC isn't corrupt please really really think about what you are saying there do u truly believe there is absolutely no corruption within your Govt!! If you can't see it then you are blind to what's happening right under your nose but I'm afraid corruption does come from the top and sheep usually follow!!! You don't believe in the justice system cause its the \white way\ and and not the \African way\ what does that actually mean?? You also urged South Africans to \reaffirm their belief in peace, stability and order and in building a caring society free of crime and violence!! When you said that did you truly believe what you were saying??!!! What goes on in your head Mr Zuma is it about money or people I have the answer its called \power hungry\ and leave the people behind!! Do the right thing and step down!!!

      morrisn2 - 2012-11-08 15:40

      He doesnt even knw u, keep ur respect 4 ur family!

      joshua.zwane.35 - 2012-11-08 15:51

      You are just like Lindiwe, you don't know the procedures of electing a president. You are now able to speak all this rubbish because of the ANC. before 1994 people were not allowed to speak the way they wish. All these freedom of speech that you are now abusing came with the ANC. I can see that you like our president, because you always speaking about him. join the ANC and criticise from within. It is only ANC members who can remove JZ. He will lead the ANC after Mangaung and lead the country after 2014. If you think the president will step down, keep on dreaming. JZ in Nelspruit

      hein.huyser - 2012-11-08 20:22

      Dream on Joshua. Things can change quicer than you can say "SA spring". The tide is rising and you better learn to swim fast

  • stephen.j.dickson.3 - 2012-11-08 15:29

    I have no confidence that Zuma can keep his zipper zipped.....ever!!!!!

      morris.khunou - 2012-11-09 09:15

      Unless he has stopped being a man! Hahaa Did you close yours already buddy!

  • haroldcecil - 2012-11-08 15:32

    Jst pray that this motion is being passed bc Zuma is a failure as a leader and as a man

  • peter.jefferies.90 - 2012-11-08 15:35

    Finally!!!! JZ pack yo bags and GO!

  • joshua.zwane.35 - 2012-11-08 15:37

    All the opposition parties seems not to know their duitesin parliament. There are qiet a number of issues that they need to discuss in parliament than to focus on the state president. They are not coming with solutions to all these problems. They must just leave the president alone to continue doing his wonderful job. I don't think Lindiwe knows what is expected of her in parliament. Zille is using her to fight our democracy. whites are still aggrieved that we have taken power from them in 1994. Lindiwe is just a puppet interested in enriching herself. she must forget about removing our president. She is forgetting that the people of South Africa voted for the ANC and the ANC elected its own president. its only the ANC that can remove the president. Dream on lamazibuko, white puppet. JZ in Nelspruit

      heini.botes - 2012-11-08 15:43

      Ah i read your comment to make a constructive reply till i got to the part of 'whites are still aggrieved...blah blah blah' seems like we have another case of chip-on-your-shoulder syndrome. Shame, a race issue, really now?

      chris.shield - 2012-11-08 15:47

      This has nothing to do with race and everything to do with the fact that Zuma and his closest allies have been caught with their fingers in the till way too many times. They are nothing but a bunch of common crooks! That man is biggest disgrace to this beautiful country since PW Botha...

      teresa.villarini - 2012-11-08 15:54

      Oh please its not about race here Joshua its about him leading our country down the toilet so shake that huge chip a little bit and WAKE UP !

      richard.hipkin - 2012-11-08 16:17

      Hey joshua, are you the guy living in a shack next to Zoomer's palace?

      BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-11-08 16:19

      No JZ - Whites are not agrieved, we are disgusted with your corrupt ANC party. Power was not taken either - the majority of White people voted for change in the referendum and by so doing indicated they were for the abolishing of a disgusting and oppressive system called apartheid, and preferred to have a true democracy. Do you not know anything? Since then the ANC have been abusing this democracy in every possible way, to the extent we no longer have a democracy. Speak the truth liar.

      mark.duplooy.10 - 2012-11-08 16:32

      dom vokken aap!

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-11-08 18:19

      BigChiefIdiot, the time is right to pick up where your Boeremampara leaders leaders left with 'Operasie Popeye' lol

      hengu.willemse - 2012-11-08 18:44

      Joshua it is tragic that you can not see how terribly the ANC is failing the poor of this country and the worst is that they keep you poor of mind by debilitating your good judgement with non nonsensical racial slander which although a typical ANC response to valid criticism and opposition, nevertheless blinds you like a bad muti.

      tasmee.hylkema - 2012-11-08 19:04

      ......yawn............josua, please leave the debating to people who know what they talking about. Reading your rubbish just made me sick.

      hein.huyser - 2012-11-08 20:30

      Just a correction Joshua. You did not took any power, you were given the opportunity to govern. Small differance to your viewpoint, but the differance between bananarepublic dictatorship and democracy You are obviously close to the feeding trough, therefore your stupidity. Mark my words, there are more people tired of your thieving and corruption that what you realize The great awakenng is coming, then when we are rid of all you racists we will elect leaders, true leaders

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-11-09 12:19

      Joshua.zwane.35, like usual whites have to be mentioned. Whites are not aggrieved about you taking power from them. But what have you done with that power, other than enriching yourself and throwing the country into a backwater of chaos, murder and rape. Hell you must be proud of yourselves.

  • Brad - 2012-11-08 15:41

    The poppe are dancing. The opposition are uniting. Zuma must win in December to bring about the downfall of the liberation struggle come 2019.

  • imoukangwe - 2012-11-08 15:42

    Only if all other political parties were as strong and brave as DA ! ANC wouldn't be so relax

  • gerrit.volschenk - 2012-11-08 15:42

    Hopefully seeing political parties unite in the interest of the people of SA will lead to the people of SA uniting with each other for the betterment of all of us. God bless SA.

      kent.paulsen.79 - 2012-11-08 19:35

      Well said!!!

      piet.motsoeneng - 2012-11-09 09:02

      Profound you make me feel proud to be a South African.

      piet.motsoeneng - 2012-11-09 10:04

      Profound you make me feel proud to be a South African.

  • Jaco JP Venter - 2012-11-08 15:42

    The ANC has come and go just like the old apartheid NP. As soon as your head becomes to big that is when you fall the hardest.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-11-09 12:23

      Mfanafuthi.mhlungu. So you don't know where we were during apartheid it is idiotic to think you know how we felt. Calling us pig racist shows of what your mind is made of and I won't insult the pig to compare it with him.

  • dumi.zulu.31 - 2012-11-08 15:43

    If Zuma was to be elected for the second term what would you do???

      issy.monar - 2012-11-08 15:45

      Kill myself

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-11-08 18:14

      That will mean more time for Zuma to finish off this gang of thieves called the ANC once and for all

      hein.huyser - 2012-11-08 20:39

      The question is, will business survive? The state employs afew people, but private enterprize employs the most. Once the tax base goes, everything goes. Better to protect our economy now

      mfanafuthi.mhlungu - 2012-11-09 00:03

      hein:u know nothing abt protecting economy, what did u do to proctect economy during yo john fosters,bothas,de klerks

      mfanafuthi.mhlungu - 2012-11-09 00:03

      hein:u know nothing abt protecting economy, what did u do to proctect economy during yo john fosters,bothas,de klerks

      morris.khunou - 2012-11-09 10:08

      Thats obvious he will be elected! But I will perform my civic duties like calling the ambulance for those haters suffering from heart attacks, give first aid where i can ,Lastly celebrate and jump roof top! How I love my prosperous country so dearly !

  • Gifted - 2012-11-08 15:46

    and blaclk people on shacks are still going to vote for the same yellow party again...

      Mbavhalelo - 2012-11-08 16:01

      Man stop ur racist comments, learn 2 say some ppl are still going 2 vote...

      morris.khunou - 2012-11-09 10:10

      Yes!

  • andre.dejager.549 - 2012-11-08 15:48

    Shame on you Zuma,you know your days are over, and now you're building your own empire after destroying ours,what gives you the right to take from us and think it's ok? You have never given a thing to your country, only taken.... Shame on you. I bless you, your 14 wives and 67 children.

  • Pomp.haar.doer - 2012-11-08 15:49

    R we doing things the \African way\,or what????.This is our \DEMO-CRAZY\at work.If u not competend to lead ur country,u must go!Any one can read from a piece of paper,given to u by ur advisors,nd sound clever.That doesnt make u a good president,just like having a toolbox,doesnt make u a mechanic!.

  • crystal.core.5 - 2012-11-08 15:54

    My heartfelt congratulations to Lindiwe Mazibuko and all the courageous opposition leaders for putting forward this motion. May sanity prevail and South Africa go back to being known as a unified and proud nation of achievers rather than for a bunch of corrupt, incompetent, racist and fascist leaders who's tools are violence, intimidation and polarisation while they squabble over personal ownership of a shrinking piece of the South African economy. My only regret is that I am not in parliament today to lend my vote of no confidence in this evil clown and all the party cronies that back him!

      morris.khunou - 2012-11-09 10:14

      They have no other thing to do, remember they are not running the country. Their job is to think of what are they going to SAY tommorow not DO!

  • hasani.malungana - 2012-11-08 15:56

    It is a couragious step, but let us not forget how the DA ran its campaign during the previous election."STOP ZUMA".As long as this is not actuated by hatred. But I doubt if the motion will be susutained beyond media report. The ANC should convene a crisis meeting and come out with a clear response as to where will the take the SA Nation without playing a race card or reference to apartheid. We need visionary leadership, not merely speeches without action. I am sure the president will respond direct not through Mr. Maharaj for a change

  • Woordelys - 2012-11-08 15:57

    It is Zuma's Kraal, Harem, Compound, Fool's Paradise etc.

  • Mandiana - 2012-11-08 15:59

    What most of u don't understand is that if u getting rid of Zuma u are lettin Malema back. That's trouble 'cause at least Zuma only wants his machine back (awuleth'umshini wami) but Juju's already got it and he wanna shoot the boer (dubul'ibhunu).

      siyabonga.nkosi.10 - 2012-11-08 20:14

      yerr thanks to that loughing for years