No sex please till you're 23 - premier

2011-05-10 22:57

Port Elizabeth - High school pupils must abstain from sex until the age of 23, Eastern Cape Premier Noxolo Kiviet said on Tuesday.

"Sex is enjoyment for two minutes and that two minutes can adversely affect your entire life. My plea to you is delay having sex until you are 23," she said at the Booysens Park High School in Port Elizabeth.

Kiviet said that at 23, students could be at university and mature enough to make good decisions.

"At 23 you will know what to do to not get infected with HIV. It is up to you to take advice," she said, adding that life expectancy was going down as a result of HIV/Aids.

The premier was at the school to hand over two new data projectors and two screens which she promised to buy for the school earlier this year.

Booysens Park High School is in the northern area of Port Elizabeth, where crime, drug use and poverty is rife.

The premier adopted the northern areas as a focus area for her office after she saw the conditions under which the people were living.

On Wednesday, she will go to the Chapman High School in Gelvandale to hand over a 620m security fencing project which she had promised to erect.

Kiviet deviated from her programme to address a group of protesters who were burning tyres nearby. She told the protesters that the Nelson Mandela Metro municipality had built a lot of houses.

"We cannot build houses all at once. We must not behave as if we do not know that houses are built, and burning tyres will not help you," she said before urging them to attend community meetings to get information about housing delivery and other developments in their area.

  • Reg - 2011-05-10 23:13

    High school at 23?

      kidblack - 2011-05-10 23:58

      we are dealing with neanderthals.

      edvermaak - 2011-05-11 00:02

      Where the hell did the figure 23 come from?

      Doublepost - 2011-05-11 00:23

      "High school pupils must abstain from sex until the age of 23, Eastern Cape Premier Noxolo Kiviet said on Tuesday."

      leerobbertse - 2011-05-11 01:10

      Two minutes?? I always thought I was doing something wrong, now I know, thanks mate.

      clark - 2011-05-11 02:33

      - I wonder if he ran this idea past old hot pants ?

      HardHitter - 2011-05-11 06:59

      @doublepost : well, if you look at the age on them, 22 , behaves like 2 year old, thats why they're still in school! Recently I've heard that Malema had a gun on him when 13, then he should have been 18. So its illegal to have a gun on you when 13. So, he was actually 18, but had the mind of a 13 year old. Now, at 30, he is probably only, 20 now. Still a moron.

      saabnut - 2011-05-11 07:26

      Unless, of course, showerhead is involved...

      LD - 2011-05-11 07:50

      Reg, please do not expose you poor level of comprehension of this article. Nothing in this article says anything about pupils being at school at the age of 23. Please read the article again and be decent enough to withdraw your unjust comment due to your poor comprehension.

      paulf - 2011-05-11 09:09

      I thought it was more like half an hour LOL

      smahlaba - 2011-05-11 09:21

      'Kiviet said that at 23, students could be at university and mature enough to make good decisions.'

      AloninSA - 2011-05-11 10:27

      You fools annoy me. It's one thing to make fun of government officials when they say stupid, illogical and counter productive things, but when someone actually makes a sensible and constructive statement like this, as well as does something good (albeit just before elections), I would expect intelligent people to give credit when it is due.

      Fatima - 2011-05-11 11:19

      Kiviet said that at 23, students could be at university and mature enough to make good decisions.

      Krush - 2011-05-11 12:08

      Then why is the legal age to have sex 14? Oh was their way of "legalising rape." 2 minutes ey? hahahahaha

      The Unknown - 2011-05-11 15:11

      23 and still in high school? Sorry, I forgot about with which ethnic group we are dealing

      Lauren - 2011-05-11 19:19

      Reg, she was addressing kids at a high school.

      Lauren - 2011-05-11 19:22

      Kidblack, where do they breed people like you? Is there a special farm?

      Lauren - 2011-05-11 19:24

      Alonin, Fatima, you are farting against the wind. These people comment and think they are so super clever, but they are incapable of reading an article and digesting the gist of it. Instead, they act in the most obtuse manner and show themselves up for who and what they really are. It's pathetic really, but they will run around and pat themselves on the back for their supposed intelligence.

  • Martin du Plessis - 2011-05-10 23:18

    Good advice, i'd say.

      Mango - 2011-05-11 11:42

      I agree. Someone in the government with some sense. This way we will have less underfed babies who's parents cannot support them. Kiviet for president!

      lotus.lindi - 2011-05-11 22:33

      Yes, Waaay better than the dunderhead who was advocating free oral contraceptives for 12 year olds, last week!!

  • edvermaak - 2011-05-10 23:51

    And Premier, since you have such a keen interest in others' sexual activities: how old were you may I ask?

      Renny - 2011-05-11 07:00

      I think she's still a virgin.

  • edvermaak - 2011-05-10 23:54

    Minister, you and Malema are clearly WORLDS apart. Did you not hear of his procreation plan for the blacks? Yo are treading on thin ice here!

      edvermaak - 2011-05-10 23:55

      OOps - just accidently promoted a Premier to Minister. Or is that a demotion? Pray do tell...

  • Francis - 2011-05-11 00:21

    23, Yeah right, like thats gonna happen

      Vuyolwethu - 2011-05-11 07:16

      Take it or leave it

      Matt - 2011-05-11 08:56

      She can only try.

      Brad.Kopping - 2012-03-30 23:14

      i didn't know you could only get HIV after 23...this is breaking news!!! xD

  • FarmerBrown - 2011-05-11 00:23

    Mr. Zuma will be cross with you Noxolo.... and Mr Malema for that matter.... he said make babies!

  • thinker - 2011-05-11 01:55

    It would be nice if the ANC could speah with one voice to the young girls. what should it be: 1. ambstain till 23 2. do it buy use a condom 3. force them on the pill at age 12

  • QV - 2011-05-11 02:59

    Why not just say "until you are married".. because a lifelong mutual loyalty is the only guarantee that you will be safe. And that is one thing humans can do which distinguish us from animals - except for the noble ones like the bald eagle.

      Felix - 2011-05-11 08:07

      Emperor penguins.

  • ewald - 2011-05-11 03:30

    23..that's how many times she goes to KFC in a week. Pity no picture of her here, just Google Madame Kiviet..explains where the food for the school kids have disappeared to.

      Lauren - 2011-05-11 19:25

      Douche bag comment!

  • pompie1 - 2011-05-11 04:07

    Probably got the idea from the rugby advert. Player 23...

  • Goddok - 2011-05-11 04:27

    She lives in Cuckoos Heaven !

  • Larro - 2011-05-11 05:44

    I think she meant to say 'until 2 or 3' not 23.

      Barry - 2011-05-11 10:26

      Larro I agree with you

  • Deon - 2011-05-11 06:17

    The Eastern Cape is the most illiterate province in South Africa. Read the's scary....

      Vuyolwethu - 2011-05-11 07:14

      u r the illiterate. Where was this proven by the way? What does that have to do with anything anyway?

      Lauren - 2011-05-11 19:27

      Vuyo, try and ignore the plebs on this site. They are a sad reflection of our society. Sad things is, they think they are more intelligent than black people.

  • - 2011-05-11 06:56

    Firstly, my kids have the brain power to know this at the age of 10 already. Also, they will be finished with university or very close to finish, depending on their degree, at 23. And my kids aren't told everyday to multiply like rabbits by a dumb ANCYL clown. We still heve morals and self respect.

      Gail - 2011-05-11 09:06 so your kids have the brain power to know not to have sex until 23?! If your kids are only around 10, just wait until they hit their teens!!!!! Some of there remarks here are so ugly and uncalled for.

      Lauren - 2011-05-11 19:31

      Yep, agreed, Gail. Anthro, be careful what you assume about your children and what will happen in the future. Sex drive, hormones, rampant lust...none of those things are reserved for a certain race and a certain other race is certainly not exempt from it either. What an arrogant statement. Hope one of your kids do not come home pregnant at the age of sixteen in the future. Yes, it can happen. Do not presume to know everything about all people. Least of all your children. Pride comes before the fall. Your arrogance is astounding.

      keneiloe - 2012-04-02 13:27

      True right there @Gail and @Lauren. @Anthro, do not throw stones when you live in a glassy house; your children will be teenagers someday soon and then will you swallow your words!

  • lenand40 - 2011-05-11 06:57

    Perhaps you should not be in High School if you are 23

      smahlaba - 2011-05-11 09:26

      She said you could be in Varsity at that time. Please read the article carefully.

      Lauren - 2011-05-11 19:33

      CAN YOU READ??? She was addressing a group of high school children, suggesting that some of them could be at varsity at the age of 23. Back to school for you. Ask the teacher to refresh you on comprehension. It's quite useful when reading an article and commenting on it.

  • lenand40 - 2011-05-11 06:59

    @Doublepost Were you in high school at 23? It does seem like it. I have a Polish friend who was at high school at the age of 21, you twerp!!! Has nothing with colour. You should not be in high school at 23 regardless of your race

  • Boertjie - 2011-05-11 07:04

    Muhahahahaha!!!! And where will all the anc supporters then come from? Sex is their national sport! As prescribed by their president...

      Lauren - 2011-05-11 19:04

      Get lost.

  • Louisdev37 - 2011-05-11 07:19

    They even want to increase the legal drinking age. But you're able to vote when you're 18? Please explain

  • Peter - 2011-05-11 07:21

    A nice chuckle for a Wednesday morning. LOL

  • zistros - 2011-05-11 07:23

    21/22/23/24 in high school in the 90's understandable based on the history of this country.. back then black people were mostly tought how to read and write afrikaans and english, how to cook using electrical appliancies so that they will be able to become productive slaves for the apartheid era.. after 1994 many of the african culture youth and teenagers went back to school for study because they beleaved they will receive proper education for proper jobs. i myself in primary had people who were old enough to be in high school if they started school early like myself.. so please dnt judge coz when u went to school there was a garden boy u left behind trying to earn a living... as for sex at the age of 23, that wont make any differance coz there are 40 year olds who act like teenagers.. it's all in the teachings of the child by parents and the community as a whole. You can't say alcohol is bad for an individual where as we find adverts that creates a picture that where alcohol is involved you'l always have a good time......

  • Exzim - 2011-05-11 07:29

    If sex is enjoyment for two minutes, you ain't doing it right!

      Gungets Tuft - 2011-05-11 08:16

      Looking at Kiviet the best position would probably be next door.

      Matt - 2011-05-11 08:58

      Either that or you have the magical ability to drive a woman wild that quickly...

      keneiloe - 2012-04-02 13:25

      It is a 2min thing at that age (i.e. teenage years)

  • 50something - 2011-05-11 07:34

    Why 23 and not 30 - such an arbitory age, or is that the average matric age these days? It illustrates one thing - the ANC does not speak with one tongue. One advocates abstention (halleluja!), the other (Malema) wants contraceptives issued (compulsary) to 12 year old girls while asking them to have 6 children!!!! What a bunch of idiots.

  • Neoleen - 2011-05-11 07:35

    whatever, lol

  • Neoleen - 2011-05-11 07:36

    whatever, lol

  • Philip Darne - 2011-05-11 07:38

    Yes bright spark and you probably only had your first kid at 14!!!! in standard 2??

  • MacDaKnife - 2011-05-11 07:46

    Wow. 2 mins and women complain if its done in 10 mins or so.

  • Bill - 2011-05-11 07:47

    Premier Noxolo Kiviet, because you suffer with Premature Ejaculation. does not men the rest of the country does to....really! 2 minutes!

      Gail - 2011-05-11 09:11

      Premier Noxolo Kiviet happens to be female!!!

  • kaMazibuko - 2011-05-11 07:49

    High School pregnancy and HIV infections are a major problem across high Schools in SA. These kids need guidance, not for u white folk to ridicule the premier for saying what everybody should be telling their kids. I understand it's easier for y'all to pay for abortions on a monthly basis but plz don't distort this message. Nobody is paying attention to the fact that this premier is doing a great job. Unlike most she does what she had promised

      JO-JO.S - 2011-05-11 13:20

      I agree - High School pregnancies, HIV and the terrible issues of rape are most definately a huge worry! I think the premier was just generalising when she said 2 minutes - this statement has been taken out of context for sure. She is doing a better job than most people in the goverment. I think the major concern is that the 'law' states 14 is the legal age of consent and now they want to force kids to take the pill at 12?! Please don't generalise by saying that white people can afford abortions on a monthly basis - quite a nasty statement, especially considering that every poster on a street corner is offering abortions these days! Abortion should be a last resort in any case - and carrying a child to term and then dumping them down a toilet or wrapping them in a plastic bag is just barbaric!

      kaMazibuko - 2011-05-11 17:56

      I agree with most of what u saying. Some of the legislations being passed are quite contradictory, I mean how can a 15yr old be given permission to abort with their patents knowing? On generalizing, I admit that doesn't apply to all white but reading comments here ull understand why I'll feel the need to strongly remind white folks that these things affect them too and that not all Blake people are stupid

  • Jimmyfuse - 2011-05-11 07:51

    is this person actually RETARDED?!?!?!?!?!?

  • Gadafi007 - 2011-05-11 07:57

    2 minutes is for when i puff a cigarrette ,now the minister want's me to smoke for 30 minutes and have sex for 2 minutes haikhona madam ,2 minutes se voete

      Perfume - 2011-05-11 08:10


  • Podgette - 2011-05-11 07:58

    Bwaahaahaa ~ do these premiers, ministers, etc. actually believe the cr@p they talk. What horny teenager is going to listen to her and what makes 23 the golden number? Please!

  • Perfume - 2011-05-11 07:58

    Juju said "go out and multiply" then he changed the story and said "12yr old girls must be on the pill" now they are being told to wait until they are "23" these girls are going to be really confused. Does Kiviet have 2 minute sex, I am just asking, seeing that that it was mentioned in the article?????

  • TheoDon - 2011-05-11 08:01

    But in the mean time, we will provide free condoms for everyone anyway...

  • Perfume - 2011-05-11 08:13

    Adding to the article, they can vote at 18, they wanted to increase the drinking age to 21, yet they are now being told to wait until 23 to have sex.....DOUBLE STANDARDS!!!!!!!

  • kstupple - 2011-05-11 08:26

    omg, I'm not sure who this woman is, but I think she's trying to say that at the age of 23 you are mature enough to make good decisions. I appreciate that there are people with a very low mental capacity, but come on... Why does it always boil down to the apartheid era, where they felt they were oppressed. Excuse me, the level of education has dropped so much so that my 11 year old kid could pass matric with flying colours. I want the old schooling to be put back in place, because then they could compete equally internationally. There understanding of sex will also be a lot better and they will understand that breeding with HIV and the like is unproductive, because they will just die from it. Especially if they sell their HIV drugs to get a drug fix. It boggles my mind....

  • Khalongo - 2011-05-11 08:35

    This is very good advice. I lost mine at 23 also, and was emotionally matured. Knew where to get condoms, had my own place, job, car. I was ready for any eventuality.

  • Maritza - 2011-05-11 08:36

    I am appalled and embarrassed to think that the comments on this article come from fellow South Africans. The bias and prejudice is shocking. Don't for a moment think that teenage pregnancies and early sexual activity are just a problem of the "uneducated" or "disadvantaged". Far from it, research shows that kids in middle income areas are becoming sexually active at a much earlier age these days, thanks to (among others) heavy sexual imagery in marketing and advertising campaigns and the "porn chic" example set by some of our pop stars and celebrities. The premier's comments is good advice - the kind that any straight-thinking adult will give their own kids. Wait until you're emotionally mature to deal with the consequences of your actions. And that advice applies to every child in this country.

  • MANKIND - 2011-05-11 08:39

    when she said a 2 minutes thing she meant that its for that particular moment nd after that moment u`ll regret ur whole life! so morons stop being funny coz ur not!

      mo-man - 2011-05-11 09:31

      Please learn to spell correctly!!!!

      mo-man - 2011-05-11 09:31

      The following are NOT word: coz, nd, u'll, ur

      Francois - 2011-05-11 21:12

      Mo- man, did you not perhaps mean "The following ARE not wordS". If you find a good grammar and punctuation school, let us know. The capital lettters are used for emphasis.

      Francois - 2011-05-11 21:13

      Stop trying to be logic Mankind, because you are not.

  • Tantrum - 2011-05-11 08:44

    No sexs at all - there is enough around ...

      Francois - 2011-05-11 21:08

      If the rule applied to your parents, at least there would have been one person less to disgrace the English Language:)!

  • Liz - 2011-05-11 08:47

    I finished high school in the early 90's. Back then, you were only allowed to attend High School till the age of 19. If you failed after that, or failed a grade twice, you had to/could complete your education at a college. I feel there should be a cut off age for schools. I do not think it is right for example, to have a 16 year old in the same class as a 12 year old..had a situation like that a few years ago where my niece had a 15 year old boy in her standard 5 class, she was 12 at the time, and before you all turn this into a race issue, I am refering to a white school in this example. Either way, I think school's should remain for school children. If you cannot complete your education in the specified time, then finish your education at a college.

      Francois - 2011-05-11 21:10

      Please enlighten us: What is the relevance between the article and your comment? Or did you only had sex when at school?

  • - 2011-05-11 08:50

    What is truely frightening is that, by this statement, the premier is admitting that their kids are too stupid to understand until the age of 23 and that their parents are too useless to give them guidence and information. Maybe the parents are also too dumb or just too set in their ways to breed like rabbits. Again morals and respect comes to mind. What is going on now is NOT what is expected from a "civilized" country.

      kaMazibuko - 2011-05-11 09:24

      Imbecile I take it by "them" u mean blacks. If this was only a blacks problem we wouldn't have Marie Stopes clinics in the suburbs. Stop yo racial discrimination tendencies

  • Stacey.S - 2011-05-11 08:51

    Oh what a load of BullCh#t... please, its up to you as person how you handle the situation with sex, if you wanto go willingly and have sex with someone without any protection, you know you are setting yourself at risk of getting infections.. Honestly, and yes, pupils attending school should not be having sex, but where does the age of 23 come from, who is attending school at that age? and even if you are not attending school, having sex randomly with different people is wrong, no-one should have more then one sleeping partner, and if they do, that's their problem. People out there know the dangers of Infections, and teenage pregnancy. This Goverment makes me sick!!!!

  • Matt - 2011-05-11 08:55

    I hate to agree with anything that cometh out of the ANC's filthy mouths, but she is spot on. Wait till you're married... not just a religious thing, it's just far more special than losing it on a toilet or in a car when drunk ... Btw where I come from, they're starting sx education at 5 already, telling kids intricate details about gays at 3, handing out protection at 8, and we have by far the highest rate of teenage pregnancies in Europe, no EU country even comes close... 30% of teenage girls have STI, something like 40% have had an abortion as a teen, teenagers still believe the myth that you can't get pregnant from the 1st time... what are they lacking that SA teaches? Abstainance... sure SA has similar issues but at least they preach abstainance first and then responsibility.

      NEWASH - 2011-05-11 09:22

      "Abstainance" until marriage NOT 23, is the message our kids needs to hear, others is just filling our kids' precious minds with junk that does not work! i agree with you Matt, well said!!!

      Perfume - 2011-05-11 10:08 on comment!!!!!

  • The Wonderer - 2011-05-11 09:19

    What, they matriculate only at the age of 23???

      Barry - 2011-05-11 10:33

      @The Wonderer They first have to be shepherds and herdsman tending their Fathers sheep, goats and chickens...that is why they are 23 in High School. Makes sense to me.

  • MeChirping - 2011-05-11 09:56

    No wonder it only takes 2 minutes being still in school at 23. So glad I did my metric at 17.

      Echo Pta - 2011-05-11 10:09


  • Daemos1 - 2011-05-11 10:32

    If I had to wait until I was 23 to sample the perfumed garden, my jubblies would have exploded

  • FRpower - 2011-05-11 11:09

    I wonder if this Premier has any clue that most probably half the school have government grants due to all the pupils baby's that the grandmother has to look after.

  • maseratifitt - 2011-05-11 11:52

    Does this only take 2 minutes? In that case, I'd rather watch rugby (80 minutes) or F1 (120 minutes). Maybe I should try it during the ad breaks.

  • @Dada - 2011-05-11 12:13

    Guys, you should be the one to give good advises to our teens but with your comments I am having a serious problem. The premier by saying 2 minutes, she meant that sex is a pleasure for a nick of time with lifetime regrets if you are not careful. Having sex without a condom and not knowing the status of a person you are having sex with will result in fatal diseases. So atleast if you can't abstain then wait till you are matured enough to make informed decisions about sex and your life. The age of 23 might be appropriate. She also said that at that age you will be more advanced in terms of your education, e.g. by atleast being at a tertiary level or have progressed more and beyond tertiary, e.g. having your own job etc. Please let us discourage teenage pregnancies and help avoid these fatal illnesses. But by your comments, we really still have a long way to go on thing which are really within our control and only calls for discipline and responsibility.

  • Krush - 2011-05-11 12:13

    How about recommending waiting till they're married and remaining with 1 partner. Now we have men running around trying to gain status by getting as many women pregnant as possible and tax payers have to foot the social grants bill. So that one day, in their old age, their kids can support them. At least 1 of the 20 might strike it have as many as possible. Sickening reasoning they have.