No sin to want change in ANC - Mashatile

2012-10-01 07:48

East London - ANC Gauteng chairperson Paul Mashatile has lashed out at opponents of change within the party, saying that it was no sin when members supported change in Polokwane.

 “We contested [the then ANC leadership] in Polokwane - why is it a sin now?”

The Daily Dispatch reported on Monday that Mashatile was addressing a large crowd of African National Congress Youth League (ANCYL) supporters at Mdantsane’s Indoor Sports Centre on Sunday.

He said people needed to understand that politics changed and nothing lasted forever.

Mashatile, also arts and culture minister, warned supporters of President Jacob Zuma’s second term that Gauteng, along with the Eastern Cape and KwaZulu-Natal, would ensure Zuma’s ousting.

The Buffalo City ANCYL hosted the event to mark the end of heritage month celebrations.


Mashatile is believed to be opposed to a second term for Zuma as party president.

Delegates at a Gauteng ANC Women's League conference heckled Mashatile when he attended their event in Pretoria on Friday afternoon. He made hasty strides to the exit, shortly after he had entered the room and sat in front of the delegates.

The delegates burst into a chorus: “Mashatile, tsamaya! [SeSotho for 'leave']”.

Outside the room, Mashatile declined to comment on the incident. He held a brief meeting with the leadership of the league.

Most of the delegates made chants suggesting their intention to have Zuma re-elected as ANC president at the upcoming Mangaung elective conference.

  • mike.bester1 - 2012-10-01 07:55

    Dog eat Dog ,,its an African thing!

      nathi.kunene.73 - 2012-10-01 09:36

      You are also an African, I presume... - 2012-10-01 10:31

      must be dutch.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-10-01 10:42 If the Dutch would stop supporting all the projects they are doing here, many of your people would feel it. Don't insult the hand that feeds you.

  • Lyndatjie - 2012-10-01 07:57

    A sin? Are people comparing their party to a Religion and their leaders to God? FINALLY things are making sense to me! No wonder I've been so confused with politics lately...

      SaintBruce - 2012-10-01 18:15

      Well, what it can also mean is that by NOT changing anything in the ANC setup, it is a sin! Admission after all, yay! ANC admits to sinning , ie. wrongdoing and by the daily headlines this is nothing new Paul Mashatile, especially when significant members of the political community commented that not one, (1), no , not one ANC politician can be found to have kept his or her hand out of the (tax payer) cookie jar! In the good book, to rob from your people is a sin. I think it's called oppression. Maybe classified as a Kleptocracy ??

  • ben.spreeth - 2012-10-01 08:00

    Change for the better is no sin but is that possible with the present leadership?

  • larry.piggott1 - 2012-10-01 08:02

    Upset the Trough and the Pigs get angry.

  • Michael - 2012-10-01 08:04

    Mashatile is angry because he was not named Premier of Gauteng, but he should be happy that he is a minister, we cant all be premiers or else we become disgruntled, change is right but for right reason, not because we were not given what we wanted therefoe there must be change.

      grievance.mbhalentyne - 2012-10-01 08:27

      Deputy minister is a higher position than a premier,s position mind you his a minister, I don't think his bitter about the premier's position

      mncedisi.budaza - 2012-10-01 09:12

      So u say he is bitter? Pre Polokwane the argument was about two central of power and they are practicing that in Gauteng since Paul does nt support Zuma

      Willie - 2012-10-01 09:43

      Ill informed,check your facts

  • mike.clery - 2012-10-01 08:05

    It is when it's change for change's sake. Or worse still, to put a fresh lot in positions to milk the state coffers yet again. What's the real purpose of the change you're proposing? The ANC is still following its outdated strategies from the 1950s, so what positive difference is it going to make putting in new faces to follow the same tired old "plan"?

  • Nhlanhla Zondi - 2012-10-01 08:06

    The change in leadership wont benefit the man on the street but the power hungry fat cats. What they should be concerned about is are they planning to come up with the implementation of the policies of the ANC so that we see change on the ground level.

      simiso.cele - 2012-10-01 09:21

      Zondi I'm totally seconding yo opinion. Amandla!

  • Shamzewaduhaha - 2012-10-01 08:13

    LOL to Gauteng Women's League supporting Zuma. They even supported him when he faced rape charges. I am going to Bangladesh.

  • glenn.chi.9 - 2012-10-01 08:14

    Mr Mashatile, I disagree. To want change only 5 years after you made wholesale changes is not only an indictment on your constituency who voted for the ANC based on the promises you made as a result of the change, but also the rest of the country who are trying to make this country work while you guys bicker and quarrel and send us down the tubes. Who's to say that the change you make now won't change in 5 years time again? Your organisation has got absolutely no credibility anymore in terms of changing for the good of the country, whom you are supposed to serve.

  • lerato.kay.3 - 2012-10-01 08:28

    It’s time for change, the ANC must elect new leadership with the balls to launch an aggressive economic transformation, nothing have changed since the collapse of the clumsy apartheid government! So far ANC has been good at maintaining the status quo which is biased in favour of the apartheid perpetrators and their off-springs. We want to see a true rainbow representation in capital ownership!

      jacques.smit - 2012-10-01 11:47

      lol, what makes you think after 18yrs the ANC has the "balls" (skills) to make a change? Rather get someone in that knows how to govern, and not just pocket what they can while in power. Over and over, someone gets voted in, and then they get moved to the side again... History repeating itself over and over.. Move the cANCer aside for a change...

  • lenox.ntlantsana - 2012-10-01 08:34

    Culture is dynamic and the politics are too!

  • douglas.reid.921 - 2012-10-01 09:00


  • louis.mokonyane - 2012-10-01 09:08

    I gas is gonna be a slogan that everytime we for ANC elections there has to be fightings within,

  • andrew.mackie.90 - 2012-10-01 09:13

    Change is no sin is quite correct, however in the case where a new leader needs to be selected and this leader will become President of South Africa requires more than just voting for the present Deputy President. South Africa needs a very strong person to head up government who will appoint the right people into positions of power. The President must not appoint persons who are not qualified to hold office in the ministries they are appointed to lead, they also must not tolerate mediocre performances and root out corruption. All persons in government elected by the people must serve the country diligently and ensure the best service for the needs of the electorate. Having said this, DO WE HAVE THIS PERSON IN OUR PRESENT HIERARCHY OF GOVERNMENT? I fear not.

  • siviwe.ncokazi - 2012-10-01 09:47

    With leadership change or no leadership change, I want to see textbooks in schools and the promised "better life for all"

  • winifred.watson.9 - 2012-10-01 10:01

    Yes NO SIN TO WANT CHANGE quite correct. The voters do not owe the ANC anything. They fought and won the struggle, fine, but now they have been self enriched and obsessed with greed and corruption. They are not the same ANC of yesterday. Those that want to support them, do so at your peril. ANC only have chancers hanging on, those that have still shackled themselves to the party and are waiting for somebody to giving the promised land and an absa banking account. Take a look at Zuma, can keep money in his pocket, wants a Jet, then Zumaville and now R203 million so upgrade his property whilst the rest of his supporters many of them living in shacks get blown off....Zuma and his harem are first first and first on the list. His zulu king, lives with his harem in luxuary whilst the policemen next door live in pure disgusting state right next door to his highness who is asking for more millions for himself. I agree, everybody is free, free to choose for themselves, what is best for them and the future of their families and their country. Loyalty, wont get you your hearts desire. Time to tata ma chance and do what is best for you and not what people tell to is best. You have a brain, now use it. They have a lot to knock Helen Zille for but she is trying for the good of her people, despite being hampered by the ANCYL hooligans. Look at those Police Barracks near His Highness our Royal Prince of Luxuary, look at Limpoo poo look at everything that has decayed,

  • lunga.zwide.7 - 2012-10-01 10:02

    Mashatile is right. Nothing last forever and change is inevitable. The man on the street feel the change is necessary. If the current leadership is failing to implement policies, then let's get another leadership that will do as mandated by the people.

  • mnmwale - 2012-10-01 10:14

    Paul Mashathile talks sense. The candle of democracy within the African National Congress must be kept burning to make sure that no one individual must highjack the people's revolution. Already, within these past few years the ANC has taken a swift u-turn away from the people. The Marikana Massacre is a good indicator of that. And it dwarfs the Sharpville Massacre in that the Sharpville Massacre was instigated by whites against blacks who were demanding political freedom while the Marikana Massacre was instigated by rich blacks against poor blacks who were demanding their fair share of the national cake. The blood of the Marikana Massacre has tainted the ANC's reputation as a black liberation movement. The ANC now has to cleanse itself of this blood by changing its leadership.

      glenn.chi.9 - 2012-10-01 11:30

      Mnmwale, the candle of democracy needs to be held within South Africa, not the ANC. To just think that it needs to be held within the ANC will result in it never changing for the good. The problem with voting for ANC because of your black and struggle heritage all the time is that they don't need to do what's good for the people. They will always get your vote, regardless of what they do! The people must hold the power, not the ANC (or any other politcal party). And how do people hold the power - by voting in the national elections. Do you know that if all the whites, all the coloureds and all the indians in SA voted for only one party (say DA), they would still only account for 25% of the vote. Still not anywhere close to a majority. This means that the black people actually have the power to ensure that change is made for good. Vote for a party that you think will achieve this for you at the elections. If that party (say DA) gets into power and doesn't serve you as black people properly (because they only do things for whites, which is what you may be scared of), then vote them out of power at the next election. In this way, you, the people, make sure that the party does the best job for you, and not the individuals in the party. That is what democracy is! The ANC admits themselves to corrution, ineptitude etc, vote them out Time to take the power back my friend! Keep the politicians honest based on your vote at the elections and then their representation in parliament!

  • obinna.stanley - 2012-10-01 10:17

    Change is good at the right course,what would the likes of Mandela and co be saying now

  • cry.mashiane - 2012-10-01 10:21

    Those in the ANC who want a second term for Zuma are in his gravy train

  • sj.fourie.56 - 2012-10-01 11:03

    Mmmmwale lol go slaughter a goat. Cleanse urself that way. So we can clearly say blacks were at fault of marikana. Its proven when blacks strike they always gotta carry dangerous weapons like they going to war. Typical really. As for fair share? Lol wat about teachers? Doctors? Police? But these fools demand R12500 after deductions??? Insanity. Crazy.

  • nkosinathi.sinanda - 2012-10-01 11:30

    He is telling the truth, its time to change because it was a mistake for him to be in that position he occupy, he lack integrity. He see Mandela in Malema when some of us see Mugabe in the same man.

      mo.chalale - 2012-10-01 17:57

      Like I see Mugabe in Zuma the dickhead.

  • quartus.vanzyl - 2012-10-01 16:55

    We want a new government, not a patched up ANC. Their feasting time is over. The coffers are empty and the land destroyed.

  • sam.ntshangase - 2012-10-01 19:11

    Women in the ECape have spoken again following women in GP stop riding that train I warn you. No problem with change agree but not driven by personal ambitions five yrs is short Zuma will be gone I suport him as long as he deals with rotten potatoes in the movement. There is life in 2017 unless Mashatiles pocket is runing dry

  • nico.snyders.5 - 2012-10-01 21:24

    The truth is the change will not be one towards good, clean governance. It is one group of corrupt members calling for the ousting of another group of corrupt members. The plight of the poor, helpless and downtrodden is the last thing on the mind of those calling for change. The positive part in all of this is, this ANC supporter's eyes are open and so are others. 2014 may well be the year that things change, but not the change Mashatile expects and calls for!

  • ntethelelo.sangweni.7 - 2012-10-02 09:02

    Mashatile is a boring politician I ever seen in my lifetime,that's why those beutiful women booed him,what he said was senseless,he must go back to zimbabwe

  • krish.reddy.104 - 2012-10-03 15:45


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