No war against Zuma, says Cosatu

2011-09-06 22:12

Johannesburg - Cosatu's opposition to Judge Mogoeng Mogoeng's nomination as chief justice should not be seen as a war with President Jacob Zuma, spokesperson Patrick Craven said on Tuesday.

"The Congress of SA Trade Unions finds completely problematic the posture that suggests that any in-principle disagreement with the president is a ‘war’," Craven said.

"If we were to allow ourselves to be blackmailed by this logic, our nation would, in no time, be reduced into a choir of yes-men and women."

He was reacting to remarks reportedly made by ANC secretary general Gwede Mantashe at a Food and Allied Workers' Union conference. Business Day reported that Mantashe criticised Cosatu's opposition to the appointment.

"That fight about Mogoeng has nothing to do with Mogoeng. It is a proxy war against Zuma, the president of the ANC," he said.

Mantashe was not criticising Cosatu, Craven said. The proxy battle had been raised "by some" as a general and sweeping statement against all those who opposed his appointment.

They felt that a chief justice "not fully in sync" with democratic values had far-reaching implications.

The chief justice chaired the Judicial Service Commission (JSC) and could attempt to "pack the courts with judges who espouse problematic values".

Cosatu felt Mogoeng had responded fairly well to some of the allegations made against him, but had failed to adequately respond to its concerns on violence against women and gender issues.

Mogoeng was nominated by Zuma for the top judicial post, but before his public interview the media reported on some controversial judgments, particularly relating to violence against women and children.

The DA planned to officially ask Zuma to not appoint him at a meeting scheduled for Tuesday, but Zuma's office cancelled.

The JSC has handed its recommendation to Zuma for consideration. According to a JSC member who spoke on condition of anonymity on Sunday, Mogoeng got the approval of most of the JSC members.

Cosatu's concerns centred on the judgments raised by the media and "appalling" statements made in the judgments.

  • Francois - 2011-09-06 22:36

    Our nation's representative in parliament is a choir of yes men and women due to Cosatu's continued support of a system where the parliament serves the president and not other way round. Craven, get your yes to be yes and your no to be no. You may also need to listen to Bob Marley who said that you can fool some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time. But then again, you are representing Cosatu, who ensures that SA poor stay uneducated to that you can buy their votes with a hamper.

  • gvdmvdm - 2011-09-06 22:55

    Mediocrity never improves itself. It merely fosters more of the mediocre same.

      SAROCKSOK - 2011-09-07 11:47

      another case of 'dumbing down'. tsk tsk.

  • Jonn - 2011-09-06 23:12

    If COSATO is against Mogoeng then I am for Mogoeng one 100%.

      crackerr - 2011-09-06 23:23

      Valid point. With respect, VERY valid.

      sushi - 2011-09-07 11:28

      I can tell by your spelling it is COSATU.come on John

  • naomi.labuschagne1 - 2011-09-07 02:41


  • Prof - 2011-09-07 06:35

    COSATU is allowed to meddle with Swaziland affairs and if ANCYL meddles with the Botswana goverment, then it's a problem. Is ANC too afraid of COSATU than ANCYL? I do not think that it's fair...

  • Davearch - 2011-09-07 06:58

    Why no WOMAN leaders in trade unions, communist party, cosatu .. step aside you useless dinosaurs and give WOMAN a chance ...

  • A View - 2011-09-07 07:17

    Why all this war talk. Can one not differ on something these days without it being clasified as war, disruption, agressive, anti something or someone. Lets get some maturity. As the saying goes if we alsways all agree on something then one of us is not necessary. Lets get some mature debates and discouse going in this country otherwise we are dommed to oblivion.

  • burtfred - 2011-09-07 07:51

    Mantashe and his Commie mates inside luthuli house are at war with democracy and the people of South Africa. Criticism of Mogoeng does not constitute a declaration of war against Zuma. In a democracy, it is the duty of voters to constantly question and, if necessary, criticise decisions made by elected leaders.

  • Dan - 2011-09-07 08:28

    I had a look at this "judge" Mogoeng on tele and must say South Africa does seem to set standards so low that no competent person can actually meet those standards. Zuma is now turning the position of Chief Justice in yet another circus friend with benefits scenario. Looking at some of our Ministers (not all) and looking at this funny Mogoeng, one can one bow your head in utter shame. We do the parties even bother to fight this appointment, we all know it is a done and dusted deal.

  • 2shy2call - 2011-09-07 09:12

    If not Mogoeng then Julius Malema. Ouuuch...

  • 2shy2call - 2011-09-07 09:19

    Most organisations and people believe in Dikgang Moseke, yes I agree he's sutable for the position, but like Mogoeng he has his own challenges too. He is a PAC member he believes in principles of PAC from long ago.One of the principle is One Bullet One Settler and Whites must be driven back to the sea. Lets try Julius Malema to be a Chief Justice, maybe he'll agree. Yooo Weee

  • happycamper - 2011-09-07 11:20

    I don't know if I want the chief justice to be named Mogoeng Mogoeng? it's sound like a Ivory coast rapper. Is this his real name or is his name so nice you have to say it twice? Also....God told me to be president of South Africa...will you step down for me president Zuma "tha ruma"?

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