No word from ANCYL to Mbeki

2012-01-11 21:57

Johannesburg - Former president Thabo Mbeki's office had by Wednesday not received a request from the ANC Youth League for a meeting with him, his spokesperson Mukoni Ratshitanga said.

Suspended ANCYL president Julius Malema said during an interview on SAfm on Tuesday that the organisation would ask for a meeting with Mbeki to convince him to become more visible and vocal on South Africa's economy and politics.

This was not the first time Malema had praised Mbeki, an about-turn following his criticism of him in 2008, when he called for Mbeki to be replaced by President Jacob Zuma.

In June last year Malema also proclaimed that Mbeki was one of the best cadres the ANC had produced.


However, after then KwaZulu-Natal High Court Judge Chris Nicholson ruled in September 2008 that Mbeki had interfered in the affairs of the National Prosecuting Authority (NPA), resulting in the prosecution of Zuma, Malema called for his removal and labelled him "a dictator" and a "dead snake".

"We don't want this man, he has become a dictator," Malema said.

"Once you manipulate the Constitution for your own personal use, you become a dictator."

Malema had also said the league intended to press for disciplinary charges against Mbeki in the ANC, and to have his party membership suspended.

Mbeki was later "recalled" by the ruling party before Nicholson's ruling was unanimously overturned in 2009 by the Supreme Court of Appeal.

But Malema said then that the decision to appeal Nicholson's judgment was further proof of political meddling. He claimed it came after a meeting between the NPA and Mbeki.

Tool in a political battle

Ratshitanga was quoted by Timeslive on Tuesday as saying Mbeki would have no objection to a meeting with the ANCYL.

"The former president has indicated that he is willing to meet any South African provided that he has time. The request will be considered like other requests," he said.

Asked about Malema's change of tune on Mbeki, political analyst Aubrey Matshiqi of the Helen Suzman Foundation said there were two possibilities.

"One could be that it is a genuine change of heart by Malema on Mbeki. Alternatively Mbeki could be just a tool in a political battle to highlight what is perceived as the poor leadership of Jacob Zuma," he said.

Malema was recently heard signing songs calling Zuma "the shower man". This was a reference to Zuma telling the South Gauteng High Court in 2006, during his rape trial, that he took a shower to avoid contracting HIV after having had unprotected sex with an HIV-positive woman.

He was acquitted of the rape charge.

  • chris.piro2 - 2012-01-11 22:11

    hayi this Malema is lost now

      Squeegee - 2012-01-12 06:38

      Why would Mbeki hitch his wagon to Juju? Mbeki has a brain. He would have to be desperate.

  • Geraldv - 2012-01-11 22:23

    The best economy ever in RSA was during Mbeki's rule. Now the pikanin wakes up! Bit late Malema.

  • TheWatcher - 2012-01-11 22:29

    Is Malema still running the ANCYL from behind the scenes or is this just a bored journalist trying to make the story more 'interesting' by including his name somewhere in the text?

      Ditantane - 2012-01-12 09:54

      Malema still the president and still running the ANCYL, still ANC NEC member and now ANC PEC member(Limpopo)now also a Farmer.

  • djmain1 - 2012-01-11 22:30

    It's dog eat dog! Phansi cANCer, phansi!!

  • Eduard - 2012-01-11 22:33

    can news24 limit the malema exposure on your site?

  • Adam - 2012-01-11 22:46

    Given that Mbeki is an educated man, albeit maybe not the greatest Statesman he is bright enought to know that both Malema and Zuma are as thick as two planks and Malema is two faced. An informed person would be well advised not to engage with a spineless prat. I know I would steer a wide berth if I was ever unfortunate enough to be caught up in the same room as Malema.

  • Simamkele Nolonwabo Twala - 2012-01-11 23:00

    seems as if malema is calling the shots of who must run this country and he is truly enjoyin as he has ripped so much wealth for himself! Its more like his pointin wht needs to be done and by whom!

      Sean - 2012-01-12 01:54

      Male ma has them by the ...all's! Isn't it obvious? He even has a ring through their noses leading them to temptation ..........

  • Comrade - 2012-01-11 23:10

    ancyl ??? who cares about those snot nosed ill mannered runts. pppffft

  • Sithando - 2012-01-11 23:10

    Who let john out ,again. eish!

  • Eish - 2012-01-12 00:13

    Malema the charmelon! How on earth do you seek assistant from the so called dictator who is incompetent to govern SA, whom you consider as your foe. What goes around comes around.

      John - 2012-01-12 04:41

      I think personally that JuJu lies in bed and if he didn't get enough attention from the media that day, he ponders to himself what bull$hit can I come up with tomorrow to grab it. And we fall for it every time by commenting. The baby is a BURK, he and showerhead deserve each other!!!

  • Beetroot - 2012-01-12 06:06

    This is so unfair....Why dont the chimps in the JHB Zoo get as much media attention. I suppose they are more civilised. I must admit they do Toyi Toyi now and then. Especially at feeding time.

  • braamc - 2012-01-12 06:55

    Both has been's

      Beetroot - 2012-01-12 07:14

      Dumb and Dumber

  • Lawrence - 2012-01-12 07:28

    As Mbeki was called by Malema a 'dead snake'and they wanted to brought him to adisciplinary hearing for no valid reasons. I wont condone that Mbeki must have anything to do with polititians that are oppotunist like your Malema's and others.

  • Hangwani - 2012-01-12 07:57

    Is it possible for Mbeki to be a presidential candidate again?

      Deon - 2012-01-12 14:31

      No. (I Think) - They only allow 2 terms in office, he was relieved while he was in his second term.

  • martir02 - 2012-01-12 08:40

    I have since learned that if I were to choose between Mbeki and Zuma I would definitely go for Mbeki..... He was a tactful master very intellectual and knew what he spoke about. As for shower/ladies man a POP star if you will, sorry I think he must go. I may not be a great fan of Malema but I think what he and the youth league are raising are important issues, this bunch can't sit and watch POP STAR and his cabals destroy the country in the name of apartheid while he is corrupt. If and when Malema becomes a president of this country who is he going to blame for the lack of integrity this current government espouses to currently, PW Botha or ANC itself? Answer that and tell me if he is not justified for wanting POP Star to go....

  • Bruce - 2012-01-12 08:41

    Wow this surely is to nail the JZ camp. I can't wait for Mangaung to see who takes reigns in the ANC. where the puppets and the masters will be revealed but I say woe unto them who play with the voters in order to fulfil their own political ambitions on the expense of us who put them there. The Born-Fress are really enjoying this.

  • EyesEars - 2012-01-12 08:54

    And so malema continues to speak with two tongues, just as the rest of them. Not surprising at all. Just a waste that some people don't want to hear or see it. One day, perhaps?!

  • Jacqui - 2012-01-12 09:26

    "I'll kill for Zuma" is long forgotten. Can anyone really take Malema seriously?.

  • Andries - 2012-01-12 18:32

    Both Mbeki and Malema are incompetent fools, the ANC has decided. When is Malema's verdict to be announced? High Court as well as ANC hearing? Jirre they all are scared of him.

  • Perfume - 2012-01-13 14:56

    Was MiniBob not the ringleader to have Mbeki ousted!

  • kmphasha - 2012-01-13 15:40

    Cde Thabo Mbeki for President

  • Thabo - 2012-01-15 22:12

    We realy welcome president Mbeki again in domestic politics,with the hope that he understand the our call for economic change in our country.To have such a brilliant man like Mbeki,our economic freedom slogan will spark heavely to the poor South Africans.This is the cadre that ANC has ever produced.ANCYL will be relieved once more to see a man with his calibre back again in local politics.

  • Letebele - 2012-01-16 12:10


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