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Numsa's ANC boycott a serious blow - analyst

2013-12-21 06:30

Johannesburg – The National Union of Metalworkers of South Africa’s (Numsa) boycott of the ANC in the 2014 elections is a serious blow to the ruling party, a political analyst says.

Numsa announced on Friday that it will not be supporting the ANC next year’s elections.

"This is a very serious blow to the ANC. Numsa represents the core of the urban African working class in sectors such as manufacturing, and this is the defection of that historically," said political analyst Nic Borain.

Numsa also said it planned to seek new members in other industrial sectors, overturning a central anti-poaching principle in the union movement, and posing a threat to the Cosatu-aligned National Union of Mineworkers (NUM).

Union support helped propel President Jacob Zuma to power in 2009, but the relationship has soured since police shot dead 34 striking miners at Lonmin's Marikana platinum mine last year.

There has also been a public outcry over a R206m state-funded security upgrade to Zuma's Nkandla home.

Numsa is the biggest block in the Cosatu labour grouping, which is itself part of a formal three-way governing alliance with the ANC and South African Communist Party (SACP).

However, Numsa has been increasingly at odds with all three over the last year, accusing them of neglecting workers in favour of "neo-liberal" pro-business policies.

Borain said if Numsa competes with NUM and Association of Mineworkers and Construction Union (Amcu) for members, it significantly raises the risks for instability in the mining sector.

"There is a strong sense there is a rural, ethnic pole on one side, and an African, urban working class pole on the other and it is the latter that is leaving the ANC," Borain said.

Until recently South Africa's biggest union, NUM has lost tens of thousands of members in the platinum belt in the last two years to the upstart Amcu in a bloody turf war in which dozens have died.

Numsa's encroachment into the domain of either union could destabilise already fractious labour relations.

Earlier the 330 000-member Numsa called on Zuma to resign.

The loss of the union's support is another sign that the broad labour alliance forged with the ANC is falling apart.

"Numsa as an organisation will neither endorse nor support the ANC or any other political party in 2014," general secretary Irvin Jim said.

Jim said that Numsa officials or workers could campaign for the ANC, but would have to do this "in their own time and using their own resources”.

"It is clear that the working class cannot any longer see the ANC or the SACP as its class allies in any meaningful sense," he said.

The ANC is expected to win next year's election, although there will be serious questions about Zuma's leadership if the party falls short of 60% of the vote after being in power for two decades.

In recent elections the party has exceeded 60% by comfortable margins.

Numsa's decision could hurt the ANC by depriving it of a formidable "get out the vote" machine.

Comments
  • Espanyol Molefe - 2013-12-21 06:37

    Who r u going to vote Jimmy?

      Clinton Tupper - 2013-12-21 07:43

      Hopefully DA

      Gerald Nchabeleng - 2013-12-21 07:54

      Trust me he won't

      Phungo Lesley Raphalalani - 2013-12-21 08:22

      Agang or DA

      Boaz Yarmarkov - 2013-12-21 17:27

      This is good news for our democracy... I just hope that the ANC's mismanagement and corruption will not push votes to the very racist and disastrous EFF. Never forget - even hitler came to power democratically. EFF should be disbanded in the same way the crazy AWB was - there should be no place for racists in our society.

      Antony John - 2013-12-21 19:45

      EFF (EVERYTHING FOR FREE) Party....

      Rohin - 2013-12-22 06:02

      If you read the article ""Numsa as an organisation will neither endorse nor support the ANC or any other political party in 2014," general secretary Irvin Jim said.

  • Michael Monaheng - 2013-12-21 06:47

    VIVA NUMSA;)

  • Jack Masha Kgotso - 2013-12-21 06:48

    Thank you Numsa for standing you ground nd showing that Skierbot blade ndzimande that your fighting for the working class not for business deals or those lame business Policies eg E-tolls, NDP and YWS ZANC has adopted for the benefit off individual benefit... Its high time ZANC realize that the ppl that put them in Power can remove them... Sis maan Zuma nd his cabinet...

  • Eric Mdudus Shaku - 2013-12-21 06:50

    if numsa has 330000 members,then obvious 240000 will for anc and rest for other parties!

      Madelein de Lange - 2013-12-21 06:58

      Eric, makes sense, however is I read it correctly they will simply abstain from voting?

      Eric Mdudus Shaku - 2013-12-21 07:09

      do u know 270000 of its member they dont even know they was congress this week,or what they were talking about or what they said.

      Leonard Tsolo - 2013-12-21 07:21

      One doesn't need to be a member of NUMSA to know this. It's been in the radio,news paper and TV.

      Apostle Ncakeni - 2013-12-21 08:14

      Eric u r not a union member so u don't know how unions operate. Unions were formed to keep ANC without ever thinking that they be at loggerheads with. And the unions are supposed to be controlled by COSATU to make sure that the ANC no matter what stays in power and when the marriage breaks it spells trouble for the ANC

      Chesley Madlala - 2013-12-23 14:40

      Holomisa did it; COPE did it; Malema did it; now NUMSa; who next. The fact is none of them have prospered. If no workable alternative why not fix the broken glass and keep it

      Chris Grobbelaar - 2014-01-12 14:00

      are you sure?

  • Clinton Tupper - 2013-12-21 06:50

    Thumbs up for Numsa!

  • Joe Smit - 2013-12-21 06:52

    Somebody's on his way!

  • Eben van den Heever - 2013-12-21 06:54

    The best Christmas gift we as a country have had for 20 years !!!

  • Madelein de Lange - 2013-12-21 06:55

    I believe someone is behind all this negativity addressed at Zuma. Nkandla, Unions, Booing etc.Cyril planning a non violent Coup d'état? to overthrow Zuma? Surely they can not seriously think that their Nkandla spin would pass scrutiny? Surely the booing was instigated? Is it just coincidence that Cyril used to be a Union big wig? One thing is certain Cyril has his own money, he has no need to waste ours on himself?

      Gerald Nchabeleng - 2013-12-21 07:59

      What draws you to such grand thinking?

      Mike Clery - 2013-12-21 08:10

      In politics at this level, nothing is EVER what it seems.

      Theo Sauls - 2013-12-21 08:11

      Nothing grand about that thinking at all. It is clear as daylight for ZANC to survive they have to let Zuma go.

      Arie Vd Plaats - 2013-12-21 10:07

      There is no need for anyone to be behind these things Madelein, it happens spontaneously due to the ANC's actions themselves.

      Ashley Arends - 2013-12-26 08:24

      Madeleine why not become Zuma's 7th wife. To me it look like you love bad boys.

  • Nico de Jongh - 2013-12-21 06:55

    Commie Zuma is going down in history as the destroyer of the ANC. full stop.

  • Puckson Sibusiso Gumede - 2013-12-21 06:57

    I think some armchair analysts will have a field day forgetting that South Africa is not made up of the so called 330 000 members of Numsa and after all who says that all these members won't cast their vote on favour of the ANC?

      Madelein de Lange - 2013-12-21 07:04

      If you have ever spend any time on a mine you would know that union members tend to follow leadership blindly - often at great expense to themselves in the short term. You may be right, but I believe not?

      Lucy Prudence Cibi - 2013-12-21 07:08

      Say that again!!! Anc till death do us apart

      Jacqui Daane Van Rensburg - 2013-12-21 09:11

      Lucy Prudence Cibi. Well the ANC is parting you and your money, as far as they are concerend you have to live for ever.

      Mike Purchase - 2013-12-21 12:17

      Yes but all those members have friends and family,do the maths chap!

      moles - 2013-12-21 12:19

      Maybe Irvin wont vote but how is he going to stop the rest from voting ANC?

  • Sipho Gift - 2013-12-21 07:01

    Actual the big blow 4 anc is zuma. Remove zuma & his dictatorship we wil cumback home

      Madelein de Lange - 2013-12-21 07:06

      You are 100% right, problem is within the current leadership, who can take his place? In my opinion only Cyril, or they have to bring back Mbeki?

      Gus Fourie - 2013-12-21 08:07

      This is a good idea also because his house already has security which we paid for.

      George Slade - 2013-12-21 08:51

      The ANC have NO Leadership. Liberation Movements cannot Govern -Finito. Vote DA --Stop Blithering .

      Sipho Mnguni - 2013-12-21 09:49

      @Madelein: What is your take of Cyril's bid for an R18 million pregnant buffalo? His email that "commitant action" must be taken against Marikana miners which we know led to 38 deaths. Do you still see a leader?

      Mike Purchase - 2013-12-21 12:18

      Nah its not only zuma its the whole anc is rotten to the core and thats its downfall!

      Dion Ferreira - 2013-12-21 16:42

      Mbeki can not come back according to our constitution. He has already served two terms (well almost)

      Xolani S. Shabalala - 2013-12-21 21:19

      eish people the same Mbeki that was re-called. if i understand something about this ANC i dont think Mbeki will ever get another chance and he knows that its a policy, you only get 2 terms. I could be wrong but that is what i head.

  • Eric Mdudus Shaku - 2013-12-21 07:01

    numsa does nt controll anc or controll its members who should they vote i tell you 270000 of its members they dont know what jim was talkn about or they was even congress,soon they will be union competing with numsa,like amcu nd num!

      Phungo Lesley Raphalalani - 2013-12-21 08:17

      Papa , that doesn't matter. The problem is zuma and his leadership. ANC is a name, ruled by people.

      Molaodi David - 2013-12-21 15:02

      Eric, You don't understand How the NDR works, I have been leading Union structures, until I resign because I was forced to campaign for Zuma whilst Mbeki was still the seating president. Watch the space Sir.

  • Bryan A T Maskell - 2013-12-21 07:02

    An elaborate ruse hiding behind hectic shining of the beggars bowl...

  • G Mgwenya Goodman - 2013-12-21 07:03

    Thanks numsa to show that now is time for the workers union to look after worker not politics I hope cosatu will learn from you

      Apostle Ncakeni - 2013-12-21 07:42

      COSATU is concerned about tne subscriptions it receives that is all. It doesn't care about the welfare of the workers

  • Sonnyboy Simelane - 2013-12-21 07:08

    Numsa will be partying ?

  • Dlayani Tivani - 2013-12-21 07:08

    NUMSA come to the Mines we will listeen to you also !Sdumo Ndlamini , Blade Nzimande en Jacob Zuma you have destroyed the ANC !

      Apostle Ncakeni - 2013-12-21 07:37

      U can see who the ANC belongs to, moving on the footsteps of Rpbert Mugabe

  • arthur.salvado - 2013-12-21 07:09

    Pressure must be kept on the government so that they realize that their thieving days are back. We MUST demand the money be paid back . Suspension with FULL PY not acceptable. Money back please

  • Amos Magezi - 2013-12-21 07:12

    I wonder if the ANC will still rule til Jesus comes back?????

      Faith Bokaba - 2013-12-21 09:07

      Jesus is on his way. Soon.

      Sipho Mnguni - 2013-12-21 09:42

      Maybe Jesus has finally arrived unnoticed! Don't you think?

      Tshepo Seepe Semenya - 2013-12-21 09:47

      Remember Jesus was in KZN and Australia. Judgement day finally arrived.

  • thozamile.tyana - 2013-12-21 07:18

    I've said ths b4 n I'm gonna say it again..ANC must take a look at it's leadership we love ANC cz it's our liberation movement bt if they keeping quiet of wat z happening there I'm tellin u they gonna cry 4 themselves

  • Joel K Tarus - 2013-12-21 07:23

    The only way for Anc to be meaningful again and attract voters is to reshuffle itself its top six to be particur and more specially zuma

      Apostle Ncakeni - 2013-12-21 07:27

      It's just a bunch of fools they don't see anything wrong

  • JMaree - 2013-12-21 07:24

    "...and this is the defection of that historically..." Wait WHAT? Check your articles News24

  • Piletso Smith Takalo - 2013-12-21 07:25

    If ANC stil wants to rule they better ask Xuma to resign.Numsa's members are very fond of Malema and that will make them vote for EFF.Xuma is taking down ANC with him by not resigning becuase no Muthi or Prayers can win him our hearts again."In Jim i believe" Ola Fighters

      Dewald P Montgomery - 2013-12-21 08:46

      Zuma ain't taking the ANC down. The [term left out due to News24 editorial policy] that JOINED the ANC in the 60's and 70's "to join the struggle against aphutheyd" are taking the ANC down. Hence the policy decisions by the ANC that's breaking it apart from inside. People always say "The ANC will never lose due to the number of people that vote for it" - well, the ANC will lose if it breaks apart by itself. An artificial majority only lasts while there's a common objective, and a common adhesive. The common objective was to get rid of white rule. The common adhesive was Nelson Mandela. None of which exist anymore, so yes, we will not see the ANC lose the 2014 election (but it will lose a significant number of vote), but we will see it either collapse before 2019, see an opposition coalition in government by 2019, or see civil unrest (civil war/revolution, whatever you would like to call it) by 2019. One of these tree.

      Dewald P Montgomery - 2013-12-21 08:47

      But yes, those [term left out due to News24 editorial policy] helped get Zuma into power, if that's what you mean. Because they knew the strategic and reputational damage a "leader" with grade 5 as his top qualification will do to the ANC, and of course the reverse effects it will have on their objectives of getting rid of the ANC in the long term.

  • Lucy Prudence Cibi - 2013-12-21 07:27

    I have a Q for Numsa, are they going to accompany they members to they are voting station, No. So not all of them wants to bring Zuma down. Anc will win even if the so called Numsa is boycotting. Phambili Anc phambili

      Phungo Lesley Raphalalani - 2013-12-21 07:52

      How ever, how many people like anc this days . Out of 10.

      Bhekinkosi Langa - 2013-12-21 08:06

      The chickens are back roosting at home(AMAGUNDWANE)

  • Kagisho Phetla - 2013-12-21 07:30

    viva numsa viva

  • Pumelela Umii Xoseni - 2013-12-21 07:44

    Jacob Zuma u are killing our party(ANC)

      Apostle Ncakeni - 2013-12-21 07:58

      He has destroyed it completely

      Bhekinkosi Langa - 2013-12-21 07:59

      Democratically with his Ministers and some wthin the same ANC.

      Kortbroek Du Plessis - 2013-12-21 11:24

      Shame so much for Mandela's party, Jacob ruined it. Mandela hardly buried and everything is ready to implode thanks to Zuma

      Xolani S. Shabalala - 2013-12-21 21:33

      ANC was never Mandela's part lot of other people died for the same ANC stop that. What about Sisulu, Libalele, Luthuli and the rest of the others please people ANC belongs to all that leads it and support it. like some of you who are concerned about it

  • Livvi Krige - 2013-12-21 07:45

    I know that mineworkers are highly influenced by their unions, however this is a democratic country (or supposed to be), giving each person the right to vote for whoever they choose. This being said, I don't think chop Zuma really cares about what happens in the next election! He has managed enormous self enrichment through the refurbishment of his homestead, he will be paid until his death, his family provided for (all at the cost of taxpayers money). He really doesn't give a rats ass about the people,any political party of South Africa or any of his appointed buddies, as long as he has feathered his own nest. He most certainly shouldn't be made to resign, he should be impeached and made to face criminal charges.

      Ockie Schoeman - 2013-12-21 08:48

      One of the best comments so far with regards to this article! People should open their eyes and wake up, if they vote malema our country WILL be the next Zimbabwe!!!! If they keep on voting anc the country will also become the next Zimbabwe it will only a little longer. Time to vote for a party that really cares about the country and it's people and ensure a stable future for all. Not "ripping off" the public of a better life!!!!

      Grant Montgomery - 2013-12-21 08:49

      You have summed it up nicely Livvi (in my opinion anyway!).

  • Jacques Awie Verwey - 2013-12-21 07:47

    I love it when n plan comes together...!!!!

      Fanie Brink - 2013-12-21 08:27

      Wonderfull!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Johannes Ramara - 2013-12-21 07:50

    Now is the time. Mess yourself and lose yourself Anc.

  • Neilsen Swartbooi - 2013-12-21 07:58

    I am a numsa member and come next year I will be campaigning for ANC.

      Bhekinkosi Langa - 2013-12-21 08:03

      Kanti Uligundwane?

      Apostle Ncakeni - 2013-12-21 08:03

      U r lying union members r instructed what to do and they will never go against the voice of the union. The ANC controls them from the union. U r just playing big u r not a Numsa member. I can assure if a call comes from ALL their members will not vote ANC

      Apostle Ncakeni - 2013-12-21 08:04

      He is a liar not a gundwane

      Lerato Rato - 2013-12-21 08:12

      u just need atension

      Joshua Kgorutle - 2013-12-21 08:39

      Numsa said every member can go n campagn for their parties not using NUMSA cap. They must do so in their individual capacity. Considering de fact that most of them(NUMSA membership) r ANC members, they will still vote for the ANC

      Neilsen Swartbooi - 2013-12-21 10:28

      Ncakeni and shaun you are just bloody as-hole who did not even read numsa resolutions taken in their congress,just go fak- yourselves you morons.

      Leonard Tsolo - 2013-12-21 16:50

      your vote will hardly influence the winner.Out of 50m people. 1person is 1/5000000 X 100. simplify this easy equation.

  • Joshua Kgorutle - 2013-12-21 08:09

    Before taking NUMSA membership, nearly all those NUMSA members were ANC members and they still are. They will campaign and still vote for the ANC

      Manoko Cedrick - 2013-12-21 14:21

      Remember not all anc members are happy with zuma's administration and they wher left out in mangaung so now numsa gave them change to air their views.down with zuma down

      Leonard Tsolo - 2013-12-21 16:55

      If horses were wishes.a human being can change his or her mind some minutes prior to voting stations.Nobody was born a follower of certain political party.Watch out Jesus is coming next year 2014.

  • Dewald P Montgomery - 2013-12-21 08:40

    I am happy that they are breaking away and are angry about Nkandla. But it makes no sense that they object to pro-business policies, though. Being pro-business bolsters entrepreneurship, and enables growth, which requires more employees, which generates more productivity, and profits for the business, which is taxable and (supposed to be) used to run the country properly. In fact, for every black entrepreneur that successfully grow a businesses, and employs just 2 more skilled black people, will quickly kill off the need for laws like affirmative action, and cut unemployment with up to 75% in 5 years (there won't be enough white people to take all the jobs!). Why these people don't see it, I don't get. I understand their anger with the enormous bonuses and packages CEOs get. But you don't need to address that with socialism and communism. You can FINE companies a high % of their excessive profits if said profits is not generated from greater productivity and/or by employing more people, or if said profits is the result of above-inflation and/or unwarranted price increases. What's important with this concept is to properly define "excessive profit" - i.e. profit at the expense of society or one's own employees.

      George Slade - 2013-12-21 09:05

      Dewald this is too complicated for Union Members to Digest : Correct but Gibberish to them. They want to Nationalise Everything , not having a Clue that it will impoverish them even more . They Applauded Mugabe --that says it all -90% Unemployment is apparently their goal. Jungle Bunny Mentality , resulting from No education . I,m not sure there is an answer ---The Majority , as evidenced by their ongoing support of the ANC are Clueless .

      Vincent Letshoenyo - 2013-12-21 18:59

      Well said Dewald. We need more education. Socialism will kill our economy.

      Xolani S. Shabalala - 2013-12-21 21:46

      @ Vincent sometimes you need to ask yourself what education is being reffered to. If i understand very well we were deprived from education and were given less meaning education that is becoming a huge problem these days. before making a comment about education ask yourself which one

  • Sithembele Vuta - 2013-12-21 08:45

    If la Nkandla village ibiyeka Irvin Jim or u Vavi.ngebagxothwa kudala kula nomgogwana we alliance even before kuphandwa ngayo.

      Clement Mokone - 2013-12-21 08:58

      The majority of people don't understand you. We respect your language but understanding is important here.

      Sipho Mnguni - 2013-12-21 09:36

      Well said, @Sithembele. Sorry to those who does not understand you. Brilliant!

  • Christognus BigBoy Mngadi - 2013-12-21 08:48

    When an individual join ANC,joins voluntary and not as union,so NUMSA can fork off but honest members will still vote ANC, like it or not ANC will win 2014 election

      Manoko Cedrick - 2013-12-21 14:11

      Bigboy you sufer from brain cANCer, you think like a slave,this man also joined anc indevitualy so let him go and save anc but you can't do that because your both milking country dry

  • sxp - 2013-12-21 08:56

    In the end most of those people will still vote for the ANC and perhaps some for the EFF. For the greater good, very little will come from them.

  • Tshepo Seepe Semenya - 2013-12-21 09:00

    Ooh! Maybe NUMSA did not get their promised slice of cake. Greedy ANC.

  • Kagiso Indiana Moropana - 2013-12-21 09:03

    ANC leadership is willing to lose support for Zuma. They will regret this

  • Jacqui Daane Van Rensburg - 2013-12-21 09:05

    We will first have to see if NUMSA keep their word about the boycott. If they do may the damage they cause be huge.

  • Kagiso Indiana Moropana - 2013-12-21 09:05

    Zuma should step down if he really love the ANC

      Erna Westdyk - 2013-12-21 09:14

      Its actually the other way round - if the ANC loves its people they should fire Zuma and take away all his benefits. Much more satisfying.

      Hlathi Qwenga - 2013-12-21 15:39

      What they did to Mbeki why can't they do to Zuma

  • Xola Robiyana - 2013-12-21 09:20

    You cannot be part of the system and against the system at the same time. COSATU must be away from the goverment and fight for the workers' rights.

  • Sipho Mnguni - 2013-12-21 09:33

    This would be healthy for real democracy not the two thirds majority that leads to arrogance. Read Nkandla ministerial report, so - called e - tolls, spy tapes, et al and tell me that is "Democracy".

  • Malele Mogoane - 2013-12-21 09:38

    Let is take into account that political parties have plan Bs. A party cannot continue to be mass based by losing members and partners. Eff, cope, numsa,and others are formed by former members of a party and we must believe that there is no negative impact. If there is no plan B then what

  • Rty Rty - 2013-12-21 09:52

    I just wish their threats will remain and that they will pull out. I can almost see the headlines in a few weeks time - "Cosatu & Numsa made peace - they will continue supporting the ANC" My reason for saying this - if they do not - how can they be part of the millionaires club and benefit from ANC (not government) tenders?….. I hope that I am wrong……but after 20 yrs of democracy in SA - anything & everything has a "price"...

  • les.greene.1 - 2013-12-21 10:04

    Taking all the ANC baggage into account, NUMSA leaders should lead and show their followers which party is the future for all of South Africa!

  • Alan Smith - 2013-12-21 10:27

    Goodbye cANCer, hello democracy

  • Thabo Kaart - 2013-12-21 10:50

    This is the greatest and bold move by Ivin Jim'S troops, those who seek to get rid of Vavi will live to regret their move. I personally have always never agree with COSATU. Nowadays COSATU seems to be a toothless dog owning by fat cats. Have you recently seen comrade blade nzimande or buti manamela. what they have done in the last 2 YEARS was to pick more 'communist' weight.

      Hlathi Qwenga - 2013-12-21 15:34

      Cummon maan,you made me laugh till I gained weight nw,those two fools hve told themselves that they can't bite a hand that feeds them

  • pmalungana - 2013-12-21 11:08

    We'll

  • pmalungana - 2013-12-21 11:10

    Well it is painfully to see your conspirators living a luxurious life with a 2million rand fire pool when you have nothing to show, let alone having Acess to that pool

  • pmalungana - 2013-12-21 11:13

    When is Zapiro depicting our president swimming in his fire pool, can't wait

  • Sporo Cain - 2013-12-21 11:19

    I'm behind ANC one way, I'm voting for ANC next year and I wil always b behind Cosatu Kushomina Sporo Cain - Member of NUMSA for 12 years

      pmalungana - 2013-12-21 11:38

      Freedom is in your hands, so saidv

      KC Sibisi - 2013-12-21 13:28

      uyafana nomfazi ohlushwa yindoda olokhu ethi mangimshiya ngzoshonaphi

      Hlathi Qwenga - 2013-12-21 15:30

      You speak like stupid fool,this is the resolution of the Numsa congress that you vote for the party of ur choice,uyafana nje nongathethanga maan

      Clement Mahuma - 2013-12-21 17:00

      Gentlemen it is not a surprise, only a fool can really think like Cain who murder his brother Abel for the love of power. Let fools b fools n its up to us honest citizens to do wat is right for the sake of the future of our generations n if we love our democracy its up to us 2 defend it.

  • Lemos Gumede - 2013-12-21 11:23

    Let me warn you irvin jim u rather attack your enemies zuma sdumo and blade then attacking our liberation movement its cold outside there u will regret that's your downfall decision taken by 500 people doesnot make anysense

      pmalungana - 2013-12-21 11:36

      Let's us remember that Mandela paid a heavy price for our freedom . He has fought against white domination and black domination . What we are witnessing in our politics is ethnic domination. It requires some kind of sacrifice to eliminate it

      Siphiwe Kuhlase - 2013-12-21 11:59

      Gumede do you think that zuma stole our money in the name of security. If he is ryt why they delay the madonsela report so that we can see who is fooling who. Since he took the office what he has done for the poorest ppl. Why the allow labour brokers to operat knowing very well tha the take 80Percent of the workers to their pocket. Which country do u come from. Vote for your cancer party

      Hlathi Qwenga - 2013-12-21 15:26

      Hyi xem Gumede,you are speaking out of frustration,deal with this,Zuma has killed our ANC