Nxesi mum on Zuma 'siege' bunker

2012-10-31 21:00

Cape Town - Public Works Minister Thulas Nxesi would not say on Wednesday whether the underground bunker reportedly planned for President Jacob Zuma's Nkandla private residence was designed to handle a long siege.

"With due respect, I don't understand the... question," he told the Inkatha Freedom Party's Mario Oriani-Ambrosini in the National Assembly.

The IFP MP had asked him: "[Is] the design of the complex to enable the president... to survive a long siege? Because it doesn't seem the complex is designed specifically to [withstand] a terrorist attack."

Oriani-Ambrosini also enquired, to laughter from opposition MPs, if the bunker was to ensure the "long-term sustainability" of the president should he ever find himself under siege "and unwilling to surrender himself to somebody wanting to get him there".

Earlier, Nxesi dodged questions about the reported R200m-plus upgrades to Zuma's private residence at Nkandla in KwaZulu-Natal, acknowledging only that his department met "on a continuous basis" with the department of defence and the SA Police Service to discuss the "implementation of security measures at... state facilities."

Such discussion included the private and the official accommodation of members of the executive, and whether "various projects were executed in accordance with risk assessments done by the SAPS and the defence department".

Asked whether an underground bunker was warranted at a private residence, Nxesi again repeated he could not discuss such security matters, which were a matter for the department of defence.

However, he did suggest the reported cost of the project was not correct.

Asked by Democratic Alliance MP Anchen Dreyer whether the R230m spent on the safety of one person was worth more than the education, health and safety of millions of poor South Africans, he responded: "I do not know where [you] get this figure."

  • mholthuysen - 2012-10-31 21:05

    Well if one is so "popular" and so "close" to its citizens - no wonder one needs a bunker. Just like any other failed despot on the continent and history. A sad case of a total failure in South African "leader"ship...

      lownabester - 2012-10-31 21:28

      When Nexi took office he promised such big reforms and honest, Not happening...................Zuma will need lots of supplies, the siege will be long.

      leonard.menge - 2012-10-31 22:23

      This dude Thulas Nxesi is he not the \youtube chair guy\ from 2010?

      rowan.clark.10 - 2012-10-31 22:23

      Mike there's a zulu under my stoep! YL haunting them and a whole pile of info skeletons.

      SharonE - 2012-10-31 23:05

      Saddam Hussein also hid in a hole in the ground. Didn't work - they still found him...

      RudiErnst - 2012-10-31 23:45

      @mike: I would not call it "leader"ship, but rather... leadersh*t.

      gordon.trevat - 2012-11-01 00:59

      Why are private residences needing this kind of security and upgrades, when there are government owned residences that should be upgraded and maintained and can be used by the next president as well...

      mholthuysen - 2012-11-01 09:02

      @MrGrumpy - LeaderSh$t would be an option - but Sh$t serves a purpose - which I fail to see with Zuma and Co.

  • charlesbronson.bronson - 2012-10-31 21:18

    Zuma is surrounded by thief's. Most useless president this country ever had in it history!!!

      godfrey.welman - 2012-10-31 21:38

      LOL...Zoomer is creating a retirement village for the likes of mad Bob and other Africa dictators.

      art5SA - 2012-11-01 08:52

      He is building the "BUNKER" to get AWAY from his wives....

      amandla.whereto - 2012-11-01 09:12

      Not his wives but all the other Zulu maidens, with 4 wives and two fiancees, Zuma is still one of KZN's most eligible bachelors!

  • Jacques - 2012-10-31 21:32

    Mangaung is nothing but a storm in a tea cup... Unfortunately, that tea cup is called 'South Africa* and we're all living in it...

      maureen.churchill.9 - 2012-11-01 13:22

      Maybe one day you will be detested by your own people, you can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time. You are out for self gain and entitlement bugger your starving homeless people. But, if they vote you in they deserve what they get. As I've said before if you're voted in my charity begins at home, no begging bowl will receive a morsel.

  • craig.elliott.75 - 2012-10-31 21:36

    The bunker is to protect him from the 'ignorant masses' once they have realized he has done nothing other then deprive them and their children of rooves over their heads and food in their stomach's. Once they finally come to the realization of his thieving ways it will be tickets for him .. And he knows it ... Hell hath not the fury of the masses scorned !

  • stanton.clarke - 2012-10-31 21:44

    Thulas, we employed you, tell us now.

  • douglas.reid.921 - 2012-10-31 21:54

    Any decent dictator needs a bunker to protect himself from his own people. Zuma is just true to form.

  • thifulufhelwi.masala - 2012-10-31 21:56

    Lol this government is a big joke. I cnt stop lought. Bt with a sore heart to see the fat geting fater and the skiny geting even thiner. Don't mind the gramma is the poor education I received.

      craig.elliott.75 - 2012-10-31 21:59

      LOL thifulufhelwi ... atleast you have a great sense of humour brother ! And you have only a few people to blame for your education cANCer hey :}

  • norman.buchalter - 2012-10-31 21:58

    I know of some very good state facilities which he would find most accommodating.That kind of expense the taxpayers wouldn't mind paying for.

      alf.pop - 2012-10-31 22:25

      Stick him and his 4 Zuma wrestlers in one of the submarines! The weight alone will sink it!

  • bibi.vanzyl - 2012-10-31 22:01

    What the.... Zuma clearly knows something that we (footing the bill) don't. Are we at war with somebody? Lesotho? Mozambique?

      andrez.kolesky - 2012-10-31 22:07

      @bibi. I'm not easily spooked, but this makes me think .......

      art5SA - 2012-11-01 08:59

      Zuma is at war with the MASSES.... They WILL come for him, when he gets kicked out in Mangaung, come December... That is the only reason this "PROJECT, paid for by the TAX PAYERS, has been rushed through....

  • john.s.stalwart - 2012-10-31 22:23

    Why not throw this liar out of the parliament?! Y tolerate such lies frm that prominent fat mouth? Honestly Zuma is afraid of moral siege,he is afraid of the Shapiros and co.,so he wants an underground privacy,dull I say,only cowards do dat but not men. Owh again he's afraid that some 'punks' could steal his trillions,sure he'l ground them in the deepest part of his bunker even if i dnt knw wt dat is,certainly even Nxesi dusnt knw it lmao...

  • sello.r.molefe - 2012-10-31 22:29

    Dumb ass...

  • Spearshaker@Inkandla - 2012-10-31 22:40

    Nxesi was a teacher and a failed one I understand and then he became a full-time official of SADTU. And that says it all! He cannot answer very simple and straight forward questions put to him and that clearly demonstrates why we should be extremely worried about the calibre of teachers in whose hands we place the future of children and young people's future. This man is clearly and idiot!

      patric.badugela - 2012-11-01 03:10

      Zuma and nxesi issue has nothing to do with teaching fratenity.lets not use zuma to tinsult and attack educators

  • Samuel - 2012-10-31 22:55

    I really feel sorry for this guy!!! He is protecting the unprotected and now he is coming up with lies. If he is asking where the figure comes from, why can't he be bold enough in the interest of south african, how much is the project costs. Remember this is the guy who was so critical of this government while in Sadtu!

  • RudiErnst - 2012-10-31 22:58

    Wasn't this grinning fool (I see he is clearly from the Zuma politicians school of grin and know nothing) committed to cleaning up the public service? Or am I thinking of another fellow, it is so hard to keep track of the lies...

  • eddie.collinet - 2012-10-31 23:10

    Just think what you can do with all that money and how many south african are in need for a plate food,roof over there head and a decent education which will create jobs.Well done mr president you will never get my vote.The only true president we ever had in this country under the ANC was Nelson Mandela that really cared for all south african no matter what race you where.ANC is a party that gone badly wrong and we must now all pay for there mistakes.

  • sminx.r.mandla - 2012-10-31 23:29

    Thulas Nxesi u make me sick, u piece of sh*t!!

      art5SA - 2012-11-01 09:00

      Doc Wally... sadly he will be flushed into a RIVER somewhere.... polluting more of South Africa!

  • ro.jhb.1 - 2012-11-01 05:28

    What a bunch of spears - the lot of them. They make me ill

  • mavivi.ntshongwana - 2012-11-01 06:57

    Thulas Nxesi is a joke

  • Montagnes.Bleues - 2012-11-01 07:20

    Slyest eyes around, nearly as sly as zuma's! Thulas Nxesi Youtube oratory skills only semi convincing

  • marc.ross.965 - 2012-11-01 07:55

    This bunker is really a bondage chamber for Zoomy Shaik and Mac. Let them have their fun, they are consenting adults after all.

  • mart.botha - 2012-11-01 08:11

    I am pretty sure the President gets his wages 'tax free'. Do these little gifts that he keeps accumulating to his own personal fortune, also enjoy the same 'tax free rating'?

  • richard.young.1253236 - 2012-11-01 08:29

    Now it's clear. When the sherrif or sergeant-at-arms comes to perform their duty, the bunker will ensure a long-term sustainability of the fugitive finding himself under siege and unwilling to surrender himself to that party (gettit?) wanting to get him there. It's cheap at the price.

  • tshepo.maganedisa - 2012-11-01 09:23

    whats the point of having a parliament if Ministers and MP's can just snub at it like that, this people are confident on the decisions that they take knowing that no one will hold them accountable - useless Minister

  • jackbongani.phala - 2012-11-01 09:36

    he won't tell the truth for fear of being fired.

  • aubrey.christie - 2012-11-01 09:59

    Where did they find you,you really are a ignoramus. Minister of whatever and you can't answer questions truthfully.

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-11-01 11:01

    Thulas Nxesi is also mum about the quality of his brain. Or is he without?

  • eyesears.handsfeet - 2012-11-01 13:58

    Public Works Minister Thulas Nxesi - liar One should actually start digging undergroung from another side from Nkandla in order to establish if underground tunnels were built. Robbers, thieves and miners, think of how much money you will be able to make if you do something like that. Lets see how much of a "national key point" this really is and for how long. For once I am willing to turn "criminal". lol!

  • cleve.fletcher - 2012-11-01 14:28

    Think about it, if you had so many people who hated you as virulently as Zuma is hated, wouldn't you also build a bunker if you could? Crikey just read these NEWS24 forums, and it's everyone, Black and White.

  • daniel.salomon.752 - 2012-11-05 05:58

    The bunker wont protect him from a GBU-28, or to those who aren't in the know, a Guided Bomb Unit-28. A lovely 5,000lbs (2,500ish kgs), laser guided piece of fun that can penetrate 100 feet (30ish Meters) of earth or 20 feet (6ish meters) of re-enforced concrete. For a little extra fun, one can use the GBU-57A/B MOP or Massive Ordanance Penetrator. 30, 000lbs (13,000ish kgs) of extra large fun and 200 feet (60ish meters) of penetration...

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