Opportunistic Malema blowing hot air - analysts

2012-09-12 22:19

Johannesburg - As expelled ANC youth League leader Julius Malema grabs the spotlight of South Africa's mining unrest with calls for wildcat stoppages, analysts on Wednesday said his rabble-rousing is dangerous - but also simply hot air.

The self-styled champion of the poor has no official role after being expelled from the ruling African National Congress (ANC), but has taken his radical rhetoric from strife-hit mine to mine where he has been greeted as a rock-star by frustrated workers.

"It is quite dangerous in the sense that people are really clearly very frustrated," said Lucy Holborn, research manager at the South African Institute of Race Relations, who said Malema had taken on celebrity status.

Tensions at the mines have deepened since a violent strike crippled London-listed Lonmin's Marikana platinum mine, where 45 people have been killed - 34 of them shot dead by police - in a deadly stand-off over wage demands that have spread to the gold sector.

Union heads, mine bosses and President Jacob Zuma's government have faced sharp criticism for giving the strategy-savvy Malema an opening to push his radical views in a country known for violent protests and strikes.

"It's a situation where it's so volatile that anybody coming along and firing up people, that he tends to do in these situations, can sweep people along," said Holborn.

"When people are so frustrated, I think he can easily fire people up and it's not necessarily about his power. It's more a reflection of what people are feeling," she added.

"That is why he is able to get so much support and get crowds so fired up. That feeling that the government actually either isn't listening, doesn't know or doesn't care."

Sporting his trademark beret and sunglasses, Malema has criss-crossed the country's flashpoints to urge workers to render mines ungovernable, while taking political shots at his enemies in the ANC and white-owned companies.

The campaign has seen his face splashed across media around the world.

Endless media coverage

Yet while the strife-hit mines have turned into a battlefield for rival political and union factions, analysts warn against overblowing his powers or declaring a comeback for the mine-nationalisation maverick.

Analyst Steven Friedman of the University of Johannesburg cautioned that Malema was an opportunist whose bombastic speeches meet rapture but have little substance or real influence on labour relations at mines.

"This idea that he's going to rush around the country making inflammatory speeches and people are going to be on strike is clearly false," Friedman said, adding that the only impact was to attract "endless" media coverage.

"Marikana was several weeks ago now. If this guy was such a genius at rushing around the place getting people to go out onto the streets and to burn the place down, he would have been well on his way by now. And he isn't."

Since being booted from the ANC for ill-discipline, Malema has also lacked a constituency, with Friedman saying one of the "great myths" surrounding the ruling party's former Youth League leader was that he had a giant following.

"The guy gets up and he says let's bring the mines to a standstill and everybody writes inflammatory reports and agitated reports and nobody notices the obvious fact that mines are not at a standstill," Friedman said.

This showed a large percentage miners "pay absolutely no attention to anything he says," he added.

Hamadziripi Tamukamoyo, a researcher at the Institute of Security Studies, said Malema was a risk in terms of South Africa's image.

"I think the political rhetoric he's churning out is bad in terms of international investors, in terms of tourism. I think at an image level he is a risk and he needs to be called in," he said.

Malema's actions were playing into the hands of the anti-Zuma camp within the ANC who want him ousted as party chief later this year, Tamukamoyo said.

"I wouldn't say he is dangerous but he has the ability, certainly with what is going on, to reconfigure the political landscape going towards" ANC elections in December, Tamukamoyo said.

But five years after Malema was called a kingmaker for bringing Zuma to the ANC's helm, Tamukamoyo also warns against writing him off.

"I think we should not underestimate him as a politician. People laugh him off a lot and I think that's dangerous in some way."

No legitimacy

Meanwhile, Sapa reports that Presidency spokesperson Mac Maharaj has declined to comment on Malema's assertion that South Africa is a "banana republic".

"We won't legitimise stories... by getting me or the presidency to comment. You don't expect him [President Jacob Zuma] to comment on this," Maharaj said on Wednesday.

"You [journalists] must pay the price and take responsibility for writing stories saying that South Africa is a banana republic because you might believe it."

Earlier Malema told soldiers at the Lenasia Recreation Centre, south of Johannesburg, that South Africa was a "banana republic" that did not follow the rule of law.

"No one is above the law, not the military, not the presidency, and not Parliament. Every court decision must be respected. We must respect the courts, but the leadership of this banana republic disrespects the courts."

He said the government had failed to adhere to court orders in three instances. It had not provided the Democratic Alliance with the evidence it wanted in the corruption case against President Jacob Zuma, had not delivered textbooks, and was not re-instating 1 100 soldiers put on special leave for protesting at the Union Buildings in 2009.

The country's confidence in its leadership needed to be rebuilt.

"Your Commander-in-Chief [Zuma] is engaged in other things. You are a lesser priority. All of us are a lesser priority," Malema said.

"I don't know what is a priority to him, maybe getting married every year. He specialises on that one. Maybe that is what is going right for him.

"Here, children don't have books, people in hospitals don't have the necessary machines, they don't have roads or clean water."


Malema repeated an earlier accusation that Zuma was a dictator.

"These are the symptoms of dictatorship, a political principle in the form of a president becoming more rich and rich, and those that he is leading becoming more poorer and poorer."

He said he did not plan to de-stabilise the government.

"We are not planning any mutiny. We are not planning to remove any government undemocratically. Yes, we don't love this leadership... we want to remove it democratically," Malema said.

"We will never conspire with the soldiers, or anybody to engage in an illegal activity. Our government is leaderless. Your [the soldiers'] issue now is that from 2009 until now, your issue is not resolved."

He said he had always told Zuma "votes were not cheap or free.

"Once president Zuma began to do other things, and move away from that mandate, that's when we said this is something else."

Malema criticised the way in which the problems at Lonmin's platinum mine in Marikana, North West, had been handled.

"Government... instead of listening to workers in Marikana, is killing those workers... That is the government we have voted for."

When he had sought to reassure the miners that they still had a future, he was called an opportunist, Malema said. People had only their voices and minds to fight "this barbaric regime under President Jacob Zuma".

  • Squeegee - 2012-09-12 22:26

    He's leaking! All that hot air is escaping. Hope it does not smell seeing which orifice he uses for his statements.

      Rabbler.Rouser - 2012-09-12 22:40

      Malema has absolutely nothing to offer. He is simply a false prophet pretending to care and raising unrealistic hopes.

      lacrimosewolf - 2012-09-12 22:52

      @Rabble - given the number of invites, there are many who believe he has something to offer. And therein lies the problem. Where are the appointed/anointed leaders? Not a squeak out of them except for a very limp-wristed statement by Mac - 2012-09-12 23:30

      Yes what JuJu said is true, we all know the government is rubbish, we all know government's silence and lack of action caused most of these problems. JuJu did not tell us anything new - the real character of a good leader shows in how he can SOLVE PROBLEMS, how he can RESTORE PEACE AND UNITY, how he can INSPIRE a nation TO FOCUS ON PROGRESS. JuJu and most of the ANC leadership does not posses these qualities - at this point WE NEED INSPIRATIONAL, INTELLIGENT, DRIVEN leaders.

      colin.murphy.37604 - 2012-09-12 23:57

      To all media agencies, newspapers and journalists... please stop reporting on Malema and maybe we will soon learn to forget about him. Like most of the analysts agree, he has no power, and I feel that publishing all of his uneducated rants only serve to make people dumber. He's a minor celebrity, or rather infamous, and the best way to get rid of him is to stop talking about him. The one report about him today said that he addressed less than 100 soldiers in Lenasia, I think I had more people at my 10th birthday... He is losing his following and he's trying to drum up support any way he can... Can't wait to see him in jail for fraud and corruption, when the other prisoners will nationalise his butt-hole!

      keith.f.murphy - 2012-09-13 02:07

      squeeegee maybe your poepsak is leaking hot air and the gases will smother you

      wesley.nel.5 - 2012-09-13 03:34

      But the problem os some air heads are listerning to him

      max.reynecke - 2012-09-13 05:35

      Malema serves as catalyst to get the masses stirred up...the unions and the ANC is focussing anger against whites with their affirmative action talks...put two and two together and we are going to have genocide in the very near future. People running around with pangas do not think like you in your cosy house behind your computer, the killing instinct is still very rife in their genes...remember that.

      mike.mike.7140497 - 2012-09-13 07:29

      His audience is only the uneducated, jobless type of person. Have you ever seen any educated person or working class person at his meetings. But there is someone behind him giving him money to do these things. How can he afford to do these things on his own? The secret police are going to take him out shortly

      Kalari - 2012-09-13 08:07

      One thing Malema is 100% right about is that the government is leaderless and the sorry fact is that it allow for idiots like him and Vavi to take centre stage. Sad also is that these kind of people shape the perception of the world about SA while there are millions of South Africans who just want to continue with their lives , but this not sensational and will never be reported. The media should also report on this fact.

      jack.blacking.56 - 2012-09-13 08:34

      There is a simple solution to this problem, nationalize one of the mines and had it over to the people as a demonstration of their leadership and business acumen. I can guarantee you that within a year that mine will be out of production, workers will not have been paid, and all tangible assets would have been stripped and sold as scrap. And then to cap it all off, they will all rise and protest again blaming the whites for not helping them and how apartheid is to blame. That is unfortunately the mentality we're dealing with, too many uneducated fools in this country.

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-09-13 11:24

      An eye opener if there ever was one.

  • themba.thwala.98 - 2012-09-12 22:28

    How can rouble-rousing be dangerous but have little influence on labour relations at the same time? Juliarse's campaign has started spreading to other mines like wildfire, and even the ill-disciplined suspended members of the defence force are seeing him as the mesiah. It will therefore be in SA's best interests to contain him before serious violent erupts. The analysts are the ones whose analysis seems to have resulted in hot air

      christelle.james.7 - 2012-09-12 22:44

      I totally agree themba. The above is as confusing as the man himself. The only consistancy in the article is that they continueously contradict themsleves - he is hot air, has little influence, but the can damage our international image and we should not right him off. He is not dangerous, but underestimating him is dangerous.??????????

      juicecard.tshaka - 2012-09-12 22:58

      Agreed @ themba,these analysts especilly Friedman seems to be the ones in delusion and in denial of what is in the open to see. The Malema coal train is on the roll and looks like being aided by the gvt`s silence.Once the populace begin to have confidence and faith in him, i`m afraid we`ll all be taken for a long bumpy ride.

      tinotenda.panashe - 2012-09-13 10:12

      I don't take those self-styled analysts seriously. they don't analyse but take emotions into their so-called analysis! sies!

  • MoshKaDeph - 2012-09-12 22:33

    I don't like this Malema guy but he make sense sometimes.

      christelle.james.7 - 2012-09-12 22:45

      He does Moshka, but it does not come from concern - he is using issues which are real for self-promotion.

      Econwald - 2012-09-12 23:10

      @James not really self promotion but trying by all means not to be proven wrong can't see no ulterior motive behind but reality...

      christelle.james.7 - 2012-09-12 23:21

      I dont agree Econwald - what is he proposing which is real and attainable to these workers but empty promises - he is an opportunist and is very dangerous. He does not practice what he preaches and the masses do not see it. - 2012-09-12 23:37

      What did JuJu tell the people that they did not already know. How much anarchy does he create? - plenty. How much solutions does he create? - none. He's ranting like a rebellious teenager, no savvy, no control, no vision and accountability for hes actions!, sad for a grownup man.

      Billy - 2012-09-13 02:13

      thats how he gets people interested moshkadeph. he speaks so much rubbish that some of it will eventually make sense to someone. all he has to do is catch the person attention at the right time.. stating the obvious also sounds like sense sometimes...

      hannesenbrianda - 2012-09-13 06:34

      So did Eugene Terblanche, until you sit back and think about what he said.

      Squeegee - 2012-09-13 07:06

      As much sense as having people in parliament who cannot read...

  • lacrimosewolf - 2012-09-12 22:34

    And the usual stunned silence from the legitimately appointed government. Applying their collective minds, no doubt. Hot air or not, their constant absence, silence and inaction gives the likes of JM an ever-growing platform.

  • joe.mangena.1 - 2012-09-12 22:36

    Friedman is not telling the implying that it's business as usual in the mines..he's just analyst after all,

  • Sean Wasserman - 2012-09-12 22:45

    Who is paying Malema?

      Squeegee - 2012-09-12 22:56

      Living off the money he owes SARS. I wonder if they would be so lenient with me?

      johan.monnig - 2012-09-12 23:32

      Its 'the poor' he so valiantly represents that keeps money in his pockets

      Billy - 2012-09-13 02:16

      shell is, they needed unrest in the mining sector to put pressure on the mining minister. so then the mining minister gives a green light on fracking to give investors confidence again. :D

      harry.dewet.5 - 2012-09-13 08:17

      The ANC looks after him - he is doing their dirty work - that is why they "appear" to lack "strong leadership". One of their motives is to stir up anger against white people to finally remove and weaken the whites. Their thinking is the same as that of Mugabe - they are no different from Dingaan - their false motives have not changed - but our Father in heaven does not sleep - He has already (through prophecy) informed his children what is about to happen in SA - but just like the "Slag van Boedrivier", His vengeance and victory will prevail for all to see...

  • jaybee.reeds - 2012-09-12 22:48

    no roads ,or clean water,false, but you failed to finish your projects in Limpopo, Hail Zuma for not commenting on this, media continue to lift him up, you do not have anything to write, banana republic my foot,You are digging your own hole and sooner we do not know,you are going too far, instead you are expanding the division within our communities and you shall live to witness tht which you have started,

  • ndyeboreginaldmazawule - 2012-09-12 22:52

    These analysts wants the spotlight for themselves now.

  • glen.e.huysamer - 2012-09-12 22:54

    And he is why the entire SANDF was put on high alert, he Malema that is full of hot air, was the ANC afraid that he was about to explode? I sometimes wonder if these analysts actually know what they talking about or if they are being payed by the ANC. They actually tell us nothing more than what Malema himself has already told the public, and this includes the stuff about himself. And if he was not so important and full of hot air then why is he been analyzed by everybody. Love him or hate him. Like it or not. Malema is a leading man on the South African stage at present. At the moment he acts as a release for the strikers, and a temporary band-aid or stopper, to cover up the wounds and deaths of the Lonmin Massacre For the moment he stalls a total onslaught on the ANC/NUM/Casatu Alliance as his presence is equal to running interference, while the rest of us try and figure out what the hack, must actually happen next.

  • hans.vanbeek.549 - 2012-09-12 23:07

    Ju Ju at least I know where I stand with you and what you say is true ,where are flushing Toilet , Running Water , Electricity , Education ......????? my only doubt is can you solve these problem or are you just another promiser to solve our problems but on the side stuff your pockets full , where is the Leadership we need right now ???? everyone JZ and Ziller dead quite ??????

      sdu.mcadam - 2012-09-13 02:01

      This comment deserves more likes than dislikes. Hans I like the fact that you are tapping on realistic questions. Its no crime to ask

  • yangmanfrom.sawthafriqa - 2012-09-12 23:21

    If we loose Zuma we will have Malema,if we loose Malema we we keep Zuma, what is it gonna be? Zuma failed me completely,but I don't trust malema he already said Zuma is a Zulu meaning he classify us all Zulus as enemies, so how can I have a leader that is my tribe hater? I'm sure that's impossible,so should Zulus vote for Zuma just because he's there in parliament representing them by his presence and not by service delivery? I'm confused!!! No vote from me! I will stay home

      sdu.mcadam - 2012-09-13 01:59

      Malema is not interested in Tribalism, even if Jz was British or vhenda.. The strategy wouldn't differ. His against the opposition more than his tribal status.. I hate politics with a passion... Let God run this show.. Haha now I'm speaking like a politician.. Huh? This is all a game of power.. Malema will also have some one chop his head off by the sord.. And power will forever change hands. Whether you talk or not.. The process will repeat itself.. Till the world is folded

      lionel.defrontignac - 2012-09-13 04:29

      Actually, it's very easy: just vote for one of the opposition parties: that's what democracy is all about. They all seem to have the same policies on the things that matter, but when it comes to having competition, The ANC needs to see that it is getting less support, which will lead to it taking us South Africans more seriously, instead of looting the tax coffers. At the moment, the ANC arrogantly believes that they can say one thing and do another. And if you are one of the many who believe the DA is a white party that will bring back apartheid, you have been fooled by a party that like the National Party of old relies on fear to secure its votes (some will remember "swaartgevaar" and "rooigevaar"). You have to ask yourself this: your blind support for one party all these years, was it worth it?

  • Johnson - 2012-09-12 23:23

    he is not blowing hot air - as you can see three mines are now striking because of his calls for strike action. Like him or not, he has a very thick skin.

  • sihlangu.hokweni - 2012-09-12 23:25

    Friedman is just overtook by his underestimation-He once said:\Malema;ignore him at your own peril\.

  • robert.doyle.712 - 2012-09-12 23:35

    They said the same about Idi Amin. Problem is whites there are all arrogant and are in for a huge surprise when Malema becomes President with Winnie Mandela pulling the strings in the background. Watch and learn you nitwits lol.

      sdu.mcadam - 2012-09-13 01:50

      I beg to differ, just on the \all whites are arrogant part\ I'm black and I'm no whites puppet for that matter. I'm just defending the elite few that aren't what you describe em to be. Write and read Rob lol. Take it easy Rob

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-09-13 05:53

      Bang broekie, repeat after me: “Used condom is going to jail!” x 1000 000

  • tobydt - 2012-09-12 23:55

    Just wait for the Hawks to rock up at his house with handcuffs and teargas. That will be the end of the Julius fairytale.

      sdu.mcadam - 2012-09-13 01:42

      Maybe and maybe not bud

  • chadjason.wilson - 2012-09-13 00:17

    Someone keeps putting him on stage with new gear.... I wonder who is pulling the strings.....

  • arthur.hugh - 2012-09-13 00:28

    If the fat F still get's into the news and has conferences with the army then yes he is actually a F'ing threat. No matter how these "analysts" put it, he still has a dangerous impact. Maybe that's what "they" want.

  • ron.samuels.129 - 2012-09-13 00:33

    Is this government incapable shutting this parasite up once and for all?He has done more harm to this country than Zuma which is not easy to do!lol

      sdu.mcadam - 2012-09-13 01:40

      Not a funny matter there Ron but I'll agree with you and ignre the last 8 words of your 3rd sentence

  • grant.montgomery.5074 - 2012-09-13 00:42

    I don't like Malema but agree that SA has become a banana republic. Bottom line is that Zuma is not the root cause, the rot started in 1994. Neither Malema nor anyone in the ANC will be able to turn things around. I read somewhere that the population of a country only rises up when there's not enough food. The people of Zim have not rebelled because 'do gooders' from western countries are feeding them. What will happen in SA when food runs out as is bound to happen (white farmers are a dying breed)?

  • manie.feyer - 2012-09-13 00:54

    On average the populus are mostly not sharp pencils and quite gullible, whom would believe everything that are repeated just twice as the truth. Noting that they all are also voters and exactly the ones Ju Ju are winning over to put their X after his name. Beware this is copy of Mugabe in the making towards a revolution, to work the end of the whole ANC and all who opose his and his cohorts perceptions and sweet-talking to oust President Zuma only, while they actually are of mind to replace the whole Government with themselves, via their soon to rise new movement XYZ, to render the ANC ended history. History tell that Dictators rose by winning over the majority simple minded. Ultimately a real danger to everybody, once they win the power. The analysts making smalltalk that he blows hot air in attempts to belittle and somehow defame him, do not grasp the gravity of what they are up to, similarly the ANC are going to be caught and overun with their pants down. Winning the votes toward total power are Ju Ju and his mates goal.

  • promise.hlako - 2012-09-13 00:56

    Well This Analyst is Opportunistic Too, . . . . Warning!!! Never Under-estimate the Power and influence Of Julius Malema, on the Masses, Volatile situation or Not That Guy Will Always Find A Way To Mobilise And Unlike Our Paper President Jz Who Is Trying To Run Our Country from A script, Julius Is A Revolutionalist, Not That I Agree With All His Nonsense But His Heart Is With The Poor of The Poorest! and Thats Matters The Most.

  • Khetha Hlophe - 2012-09-13 01:12

    He never fought apartheid,knows nothing about the bushes,nothing about woodwork,nothing about being in the intestines of mine. If he can turn against the man He held dear to his heart(prepared to die for him)what about common people. A pathological lie(r).

  • mzukisijola.jose1 - 2012-09-13 02:06

    Which politician is not opportunist in this country,some of them never went to court for corruption .people ask malema to address them you must on the ground to analyse please

  • keith.f.murphy - 2012-09-13 02:06

    JM you are just the one with iron balls to challenge these corrupt folks.I want to warn the surfers be careful with your comment JM is like a Tsunami growing or shall I say the EAGLE has landed.JM the EAGEL has landed go boy go expose those who wants to hide their sins!!!!

  • Tom van Niekerk - 2012-09-13 03:21

    why dont the police arrest him he is an instigater and a trouble maker

  • kingsley.mokomane - 2012-09-13 03:47

    Quoted below is what Uys said sometimes this year. Problem with whites analysts is that they tend to ignore reality on the ground. Hate him or love him, he is very influential.\r\n\r\n\r\n\ Political activist Pieter-Dirk Uys on Monday warned South Africans to not ignore suspended ANCYL president Julius Malema.\r\n\r\n\Every single thing he said... we may not ignore, and we ignore at our peril. He is a clever politician in the year 2012. He has not followed the blueprint of the past. \r\n\r\n\He has surprised everybody with his unbelievable cheek,\ he said.\r\n\r\nUys was speaking at a public lecture entitled \You ANC nothing yet – on the road to Mangaung\ at the University of the Witwatersrand, in Johannesburg, where he urged South Africa's young people to get more involved within youth structures.\r\n\r\nHe said people should not underestimate the power of the ANC Youth League or any youth league.\r\n\r\n\Why are so few young people involved with the youth league? The future is there.\\r\n\r\nThe people had to lead and the government to follow. The future of South Africa was what the people made of it, not the government, he said. \r\n\r\nAll South Africans needed to be involved with what was happening.\r\n\r\n\We are a country of democrats that care... and not people who say 'ons is bang, ons is bang, ons is bang' [we are scared],\ said Uys. \r\n\r\nStupidity can kill\r\n\r\nEarlier, Uys said an oppressive system similar to apartheid could rear its head again if South Africans do not get more involved and hold the government accountable.\r\n\r\n\Apartheid will never ever come back again under the same name. But don't underestimate the inventiveness of that era of politics. \r\n\r\n\Of course it will come back, it made money. It will call itself something else, it will be benign, an acronym. We won't even know what it means.\\r\n\r\nUys said this was because in a democracy people did not do their homework.\r\n\r\n\We have a government that does its homework and you'll vote for it and be back in the dark ages for the next four generations,\ he said.\r\n\r\nUys said apartheid was a \stupid\ system. He recalled how he was explaining to a 12-year-old boy how, during apartheid, black people were not allowed to sit on certain benches.\r\n\r\nThe little boy asked Uys \this apartheid thing, did it really happen?\.\r\n\r\nUys said he asked the boy why he had said that and he replied \'cause it sounds so stupid\, because who could stop him from sitting on a bench.\r\n\r\nHe said he thought about it and thought to himself \my God it sounds stupid\.\r\n\r\n\Stupidity can kill, stupidity is so inventive; so never underestimate the power of stupidity. Don't underestimate the power of the things you call stupid in politics.\\r\n\r\nSouth Africa was a democratic country because millions of people believed there was a future in the dark. He said there were good people in government as well as bad people, and South Africans should not forget that.

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-09-13 05:48

      Malema appeals to the brainless and hopeless because while he has hope that he will one day be the president of SA, his platform no longer exists. Someone has to vote for him, but he is no longer part of the ANC. Unless he starts a political party, which he cannot because he is married to the ANC, and like an abused spouse, he keeps hoping that one day the marriage will get back to where it was, he will soon found out that he is a “used condom.” His next home is prison, and those who used him will ensure it

  • grant.montgomery.5074 - 2012-09-13 04:17

    I have terribe feeling that Malema will be president one day. Many others feel the same. Why have hawks and SARS not prosecuted him? I'll tell you why - nobody in authority wants to get on the wrong side of their future boss. Consider also, if he went court all his supporters (and there are many) would bring cities to a standstill. It's too late now but if when the constitution had been drawn up voters would have qualify to vote (education, property owners etc) the ANC would not have been re-elected and we would not have heard of Malema.

      robert.doyle.712 - 2012-09-13 04:58

      Spot on.

      krish.reddy.104 - 2012-09-13 21:12

      He will become President on whose ticket ? The ANC will never never take him back no matter who is President of the ANC.

  • grant.montgomery.5074 - 2012-09-13 04:32

    This photo of Malema looks like he's sayind, "For f*cks sake". His friends shoul tell him his diet is not working.

  • thulanit3 - 2012-09-13 04:51

    Allow a fool to prove beyond reasonable doubt that he is a fool, good for nothing babbler.

  • Nhlanhla Zondi - 2012-09-13 04:53

    I so wish for the day when people would stop allowing these politician to manipulate them for their selfish gains. Malema is no champion of the poor if he was that concerned about the people of this country he would've started with the youth and address the issue that affects it since he had the platform of doing that as the ANCYL president before he was fired

      zwivhuyamufamadi - 2012-09-13 05:41

      @zondi i totaly agree with u. The guy neva adres any isue that hv 2do with youth. Al he thnk abt is leadershp of the Anc

      tshivhombelaf - 2012-09-13 06:34

      @ Collin, can you give facts on nationalisation instead of calling people fools? Nationalisation is just a widening of self-enrichment scope by politicians and the politically connected. When view politics you must view it from international perspectives as well. Taxing of mining companies and regulation of salaries would do better meanwhile nationalisation would simply isolate SA from global economy.

      mo.matt.14 - 2012-09-13 09:39

      Now Collen, what has Malema actually done for the poor when he was ANCYL leader? Nothing. All he did was, whenever something happened, go there AFTER it happened, and played on the anger and emotions of those affected, telling them to rise up. Why, when he had all the power in his hands, did he not tirelessly WORK to PREVENT these things from happening. Why did he not help his ANC to get textbooks to students on time, rather than stirring up students AFTER government failed? Why did he not create programs and support structures for the youth to educate and better themselves, to become responsible citizens? This all is proof of him using situations for his own political gain, and you, my friend, have fallen under his spell, believing him to be the champion of the poor. Why did he not help create jobs for the poor, or started programs to educate poor people to help them find jobs? He does not care. As long as he can rake in the money he is happy. Government employees strike today for better wages. Government does not pay them enough. Do you seriously believe that if they owned the mines that they will share the wealth with you, if they are not even now sharing it with the things that they do own and that are nationalised. You are fooling yourself if you think nationalising will benefit anyone. It is like handing the key to your house to the robber, inviting him in to take more from you.

  • robert.doyle.712 - 2012-09-13 04:55

    Malema will rule as did Idi Amin.Face realty DUtchmen.SA was never your country to begin with lol.

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-09-13 05:41

      Malema is going to jail. If by your statement you mean that he will be one of the leaders of a prison gang, then you are probably onto something

      mo.matt.14 - 2012-09-13 09:41

      Nor was it yours. lol

  • stuart.scully.31 - 2012-09-13 05:42

    I think it would be foolish to underestimate this guy. Desperate people will believe anything! I think his following will grow as more and more desperate people cling onto the misguided belief that he can help them.

      collen.masetla - 2012-09-13 06:06

      Yes you are very right, isn't it you have bread on table and access to internet and at the same time not in any of those people's shoes and now it it combined with your hate for Malema then you become blinded? Not so fool?

      mo.matt.14 - 2012-09-13 09:45

      Says the one with bread and shoes and internet access.... What you fail to see is that we ALL want these people to have bread and shoes. But we, unlike you, are clever enough to know that demanding shoes, or taking it from someone else, will not give you shoes forever. You, as a person with a job and steady income should know that an uprising will not help, but long term education and job creation is the only way to allow people to have something lasting. So you are in fact the fool here

  • collen.masetla - 2012-09-13 05:52

    Mr analyst, holborn or whatever, Malema didn't go there by himself just trying to gain something.\r\n\r\nMalema was ASKED SPECIFICALLY BY MINERS just like back in Impala plats, Marikana and Goldfield and now your soldiers.\r\n\r\nWell analyst are just that, they just say what they think someone is thinking. \r\n\r\nMr holborn, when you say is a situation where anybody can go and blast whatever, NOT ANYBODY IS WELCOME THERE, ONLY MALEMA AND THOSE PEOPLE WHO INVITE HIM, ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT OUR PEOPLE ARE FOOLS?

  • collen.masetla - 2012-09-13 06:00

    When you are not in those miners' shoes working underground, which is a very dangerous work therefore earning only 2500 for over 10 years. Then you are not in a soldier's shoes who was unfairly removed and not reinstated no matter what court order said and you have no salary for 3months to support your wife and kids.....\r\n\r\nTHEN YOU WILL THINK MALEMA IS DOING WRONG AND MUST BE ARRESTED BLAH BLAH...that is because you have bread and butter on the table and access to internet so that you can write nonesense.\r\n\r\nJULIUS MALEMA IS THE CHOSEN ONE, NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT THAT ONE. Not even your president nor union leader is asked to address the digruntled people on the ground.

  • paul.malherbe.7 - 2012-09-13 06:03

    this bloke is a powerful pa system for the regime, this so-called rift between him and them is all smoke and mirrors, he is saying and doing things the regime can't afford to, but would love to

  • Eliya Tembe - 2012-09-13 06:12

    People with sense musn't be fooled by hypocrites like Malema,they are just a mine workers not some kind of soldiers,Opportunist must stay away from this matter.

      collen.masetla - 2012-09-13 06:14

      ...but they prefer him over any better leader that you know...can you clever people tell us why?

  • paul.hemming.39 - 2012-09-13 06:13

    The title just about sums it up ;-)

  • collen.masetla - 2012-09-13 06:22

    During apartheid, people chose who they want to lead and address them and those people were desperate people, very desperate but when Mandela was arrested and ANC seemed to be not existing...they called his name when he was in jail, SO YOU SUGGEST THAT BECAUSE OF THEIR DESPERATION THEY WERE FOOLS? In the end they achieved what they want after Mandela ordered ungovernability of the country.\r\n\r\nMiners and soldiers are desperate, so they chose only one person to address and guide them so that they get what they want. Now clever people think Malema is not worth it....YOU ARE THE TYPE WHICH WAS SUPPOSE DESTROYED DURING APARTHEID FOR RUBBING SHOULDERS WITH THE RICH WHITES WHILE PEOPLE ON GROUND GET MERE 2500 WHILE MINE GENERATE BILLIONS...

      krish.reddy.104 - 2012-09-13 21:21

      Sorry my dear. I worked 23 years for Eskom and I never earned anywhere near 12500-00 a month. These miners are spoilt brats. They can easily live on 6500-00 a month if they budget properly. It is not Zuma's problem if they have to send money home to feed their extended family etc etc etc. Now they are demanding 16000-00 a month. This is ridiculous.

  • graeme.stockwell - 2012-09-13 06:27

    why why why does anyone give this idiot a box to stand on and then even bigger idiots report what he blabbers

  • collen.masetla - 2012-09-13 06:29


  • sphelele.nkwanyana - 2012-09-13 06:29

    If Malema is an opportunist, why the global media is giving him a platform to state his frustration of the regime? The last line of defense called him. The so called analyst they also have their own agenda. Govt will do anything to please the investors.

      collen.masetla - 2012-09-13 06:30

      Thank you, well said.

      collen.masetla - 2012-09-13 06:30

      Thank you, well said.

      collen.masetla - 2012-09-13 06:31

      Thank you, well said.

      sphelele.nkwanyana - 2012-09-13 06:40

      Remember south africa! Its same global media that helped our beloved country to get rid of apartheid. Whether you were black, indian,coioured and white that system affected all of us in some way. Remember, media was regulated by govt as to what to report. In this case the regime should sort this matter asap or face civil unrest. Protesters all over the country? Storm is brewing, but their focus is their positions. Shame on you.

      sphelele.nkwanyana - 2012-09-13 06:41

      Remember south africa! Its same global media that helped our beloved country to get rid of apartheid. Whether you were black, indian,coioured and white that system affected all of us in some way. Remember, media was regulated by govt as to what to report. In this case the regime should sort this matter asap or face civil unrest. Protesters all over the country? Storm is brewing, but their focus is their positions. Shame on you.

      sphelele.nkwanyana - 2012-09-13 06:42

      Remember south africa! Its same global media that helped our beloved country to get rid of apartheid. Whether you were black, indian,cured and white that system affected all of us in some way. Remember, media was regulated by got as to what to report. In this case the regime should sort this matter asap or face civil unrest. Protesters all over the country? Storm is brewing, but their focus is their positions. Shame on you.

      musawenkosi.mvubu - 2012-09-13 07:08

      Very true, people must underestimate Malema @ their peril

  • collen.masetla - 2012-09-13 06:34

    The ANC must choose whether to nationalise these mines and be PRO-POOR or leave things the way they are and be PRO-RICH or PRO-INVESTOR.

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-09-13 07:15

      The ANC must choose whether to stop stealing money and using it on themselves instead of the poor. R627 billion is unaccounted for. It all went to the ANC leaders, their friends and families instead of the poor. Now you want them to go and nationalise the mines? They cannot even run the departments for which they are responsible. How do yoiu expect them to run mines?

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-09-13 07:26

      One more thing: the ANC have long chosen. They are PRO-POOR for the VOTES, but PRO-THEMSELVES when it comes to theft from the public coffers. Look at the good life Zuma is having. For someone whose experience in his CV is dancing, chasing women, fathering babies, and reading speeches he cannot even comprehend. I'd say those who still vote for the ANC are beyond stupid, they are brainless

      Tokologo Benji Mohlatlole - 2012-09-13 08:03

      is not all about stupidity.Malema wants 2 put this African Notorious Crime on the right track cos he was 1 of them

      krish.reddy.104 - 2012-09-13 21:24

      Tell me how will the poor benefit if the mines are nationalised. ??????????????

  • dessa.juniortshabisto - 2012-09-13 06:40

    Holborn, ur calculations are false, Malema ddnt elect himself to go speak before the miners,get ur facts right and stop giving emotional analysis.

      krish.reddy.104 - 2012-09-13 21:27

      Then why did he form the fyl ??????????????

  • collen.masetla - 2012-09-13 06:45

    So you fools think miners are desperate fools who can't think for themselves to believe in Malema? So you think being desperate means you are a fool to believe in anything?\r\n\r\nIs funny because ONLY those with bread on table think miners are fools.\r\n\r\nJULIUS MALEMA IS THE FUTURE AND THE CHOSEN ONE.

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-09-13 07:10

      If miners could think, they would not be cruelly murdering their colleagues for exercising their constitutional right to go to go to work and choose not to strike. They'd also know that Juliarse is using them to wage his war against the man for whom he was prepared to take up arms and kill. They will probably also know that he stole money from the poor like them and is building a mansion, quaffing Johnny Walker Blue and wearing Louis Vuitton sunglasses and Breitling watches, all thanks to the poor who believe the hogwash coming out of his mouth. So you are wrong, those miners are Juliarse`s potential meal ticket and hope to stay out of jail. If you can't see that, you are just an idiot like them

  • Bra Tebzaah Sibilanga - 2012-09-13 06:48

    Analysts thinks their opinions are superior and therefore we should believe whatever crap they're saying.We also have opinions and solutions,its just that we are not fascinated by microphones and cameras infront of us.

  • vincent.vinsaint - 2012-09-13 06:50

    He's non of the names you call him to be...he is Jujulicious. Analysts can be misleading, stupid and what not other f@ckin stuff. International media's giving him att to raise his issues about the current regime. Foreign forces maybe behind this also...look at y door...there goes Zuma wt his fat @as wives.

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  • Lebo.Jeed.Tshepi - 2012-09-13 07:10

    Damn analyst you are so insultng to the miners you thnk you're better yet you are a disgrace to us all. You forget that the miners whom you call \fools\ are making this country what it is and also the soldiers are the once guarding your dumb ass.*nxa*hypocrits

  • Lebo.Jeed.Tshepi - 2012-09-13 07:10

    Damn analyst you are so insultng to the miners you thnk you're better yet you are a disgrace to us all. You forget that the miners whom you call \fools\ are making this country what it is and also the soldiers are the once guarding your dumb ass.*nxa*hypocrits

      Rodney - 2012-09-13 07:14

      yes ur rite..,