Parties divided over Selebi parole

2012-07-20 21:01

Johannesburg - Political parties were divided on Friday over the release on medical parole of corruption-convicted former top cop Jackie Selebi.

ANC Chief Whip Mathole Motshekga said not releasing terminally ill prisoners would be a serious violation of the Constitution.

"The Correctional Matters Amendment Act... ensures that the rights of offenders who are seriously and terminally ill are protected, and that they can request release on medical grounds," Motshekga said in a statement.

"To not release terminally ill prisoners would not only be a serious violation of the Constitution, but a morally repugnant abuse of human rights."

He said Selebi's release was in line with the new medical parole policy.

Correctional Services Minister Sibusiso Ndebele announced in Pretoria on Friday that Selebi had been granted medical parole.

An 11-member medical parole advisory board met on June 20 and recommended the release of six offenders, including Selebi, who needed dialysis for kidney failure.

The Democratic Alliance said that given the public's cynicism around medical parole due to the Schabir Shaik "fiasco", Ndebele had to give assurances that the correct procedure had been followed.

"Given the huge degree of public scepticism about medical parole, it is essential that the government comes entirely clean about Mr Selebi's medical condition and the procedure that was followed in determining that he is indeed terminally ill," DA MP James Selfe said in a statement.

In 2005, the KwaZulu-Natal High Court in Durban sentenced Shaik to 15 years imprisonment for fraud and corruption. His sentence in effect ends in 2021.

However, in March 2009, Shaik was released on parole, apparently with a terminal illness, which sparked controversy and accusations of special treatment because of his political connections.

The Inkatha Freedom Party said government kept shocking the nation with its double standards for corrupt ANC members.

"Investigators spent a lot of time and taxpayers' money to investigate and prosecute Selebi," IFP MP Velaphi Ndlovu said in a statement.

"Now, after spending just six months behind bars, Selebi is free. They did it with Schabir Shaik. They have done it again with Jackie Selebi," he said.

Ndlovu said the government was interfering with the rulings of courts.

"This makes a mockery of correctional services, the justice system and government, which claims to be fighting for justice in this country."

The United Democratic Movement said it hoped that Selebi had "learnt his lesson".

"We also hope that his incarceration sent a strong message that crime does not pay," UDM leader Bantu Holomisa said in a statement.

The Congress of the People said it was worried Selebi's release was sending a message that not everyone was equal before the law.

"We believe his release will encourage people to do more crime and corruption without fear of being punished for their actions," Cope MP Dennis Bloem said.

"We were informed by media reports about Mr Selebi's ill-health, but no one has medical records, or facts, on the state of his health."

The Azanian People's Organisation said it was extremely disappointed by Selebi's release.

"This confirms our long-held argument that in this country it matters who you are, and who you know," Azapo national spokesperson Funani ka Ntontela said in a statement.

"If you are connected to the ruling party, some of the laws of the country may not apply to you."

  • Squeegee - 2012-07-20 21:10

    This just gives ANC cronies a feeling of invincibility. No sane person believes the ANC spin doctors anymore. (I know what that implies about their supporters...)

      jaco.faling - 2012-07-20 23:54

      Spin "doctors" used as a pun I presume

      gestoffle.vaneerdenvark - 2012-07-21 00:28

      @Squeegee - "This just gives ANC cronies a feeling of invincibility" You know something, there is nothing we can do about it either. We can sit here and comment all day long, as well as stand on our heads and whistle through our a$$'es. I think we on a hiding to nothing. I could always BS myself and say we going to fight back..... Sorry, negative or realistic? You guys decide.

      farmfreund - 2012-07-21 10:29

      Samuel on my farm looks like this guy, but i think his mother where a rabbit

      martin.schoeman.33 - 2012-07-21 19:23

      Bantu Holomisa reckons this should show that crime doesn't pay? Does this mean that when you do crime (as per Selebi), you enjoy the comfort and cons thereof till you are caught, then the government sponsors millions plus your salary for the duration of your hearing, then you are sentenced, get sick when sentenced, and then serve like 0,000003 percent of your time, and then you get set free. I would do this for a living.

  • Lacrimose - 2012-07-20 21:28

    Well in all fairness, if the State are unable to take care of Selebi's chronic medical condition it is (a) an indictment on the State's failure to deliver - yet again! (b) Constitutionally he cannot be allowed to suffer because of (a). However, ANC has no moral ground in citing/invoking the Constitution whilst so many private sector cases are being laid against them for failing the very Constitution they not only drafted but swore to uphold when they took up their posts. We are all equal under the law.

      gski700902 - 2012-07-21 10:54

      Diabetes may be a chronic condition (I am an insulin-dependant diabetic, and I was a state-patient for several years). Ultimate responsibility for managing diabetes rests with the DIABETIC. Total b/s that Selebi is being paroled on grounds of health for this. Even if his kidneys were so badly damaged (which would indicate poor or no control over his own health) that he requires dyalisis, the state CAN provide this, and it could be provided in a prison hospital.

      alansmartSnr - 2012-07-21 18:06

      ....What has happened to "transparency"..and why do the DA or any other persons or orginization use the "Access to Information Bill" to force the corrupt Parole Board / Government, to obtain the true facts about Selebe. They should also insist that independant specialist give a prognosis. This is one more big fraud.. same as "Shabby Scheik's" Golf fiasco.

  • ross.purdon.5 - 2012-07-20 21:49

    "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others" - Animal Farm.

      sefako.mokgalaka - 2012-07-20 22:22

      OK. all of a sudden all animals must be equal while you guys hate BEE and affirmative action. very funny

      ross.purdon.5 - 2012-07-20 22:44

      Funny because you just proved my point? And i have nothing against BEE - I work with many black, Indian, Muslim, Coloured and white colleges. What pisses me off is that your own government is taking you for granted. Read the book animal farm and you shall maybe understand my quote. I wasnt brought up in apartheid era, I dont want to dull on the passed. I know it is wrong and inhuman what happened then, But you wont move forward if you cant let go of the passed. If we truly worked as one nation regardless of race - we could of been a first world country or very close to one by now.

      sefako.mokgalaka - 2012-07-20 23:35

      Well, I grew up under apartheid. I know the pain for your information.

      ross.purdon.5 - 2012-07-21 00:59

      I am truly sorry to hear that. I know I will never be able to understand what it feel like to have been under the suppression of apartheid. But what good does fighting do us now? 18 years after apartheid and we are still a nation full of hate. I am really hoping that by the time it is our generations turn to lead this country, we will govern it not on what happened in the passed, but how we can improve the life's of all and build a future that benefits us all. Im sorry to say, but the anc is going to end up doing more harm to all the people of SA (Black, White, Chinese, Indian, Coloured, etc) instead of doing good. Ask yourself. Why are their protest almost everyday? Why are there not textbooks at public schools? Why do we have such a high tax rate on everything? Why do we fear the police? Why don't we feel safe in our own homes? Why is their so much crime? I can go on forever. That is a government that has failed its country. There is so much corruption and fighting within the anc they not even bothered about the people. They will call you comrades, bothers and sisters - but trust me the only thing they see (Not the whole anc body, there are some really good politicians within the anc, but just not enough) is $$$$ and they will lie, cheat, manipulate and kill to get it. Its the truth - Please dont take anything I say to heart, im just trying to get my views across from a younger generations side and how I would like to see SA at its full potential. Enjoy your weekend :)

      goyougoodthing - 2012-07-21 18:59

      Cry me a river

      martin.schoeman.33 - 2012-07-21 19:27

      Sefako, are you not happy having Zambesi drive (Pretoria) named after you? Think about it, you get driven on by millions a month! Keep it up, friend.

  • esme.jansen - 2012-07-20 21:53

    Selebi killed so many young people because he let the drug lords bribe him! He should be paying! But in stead he uses our totally corrupt legal system to set himself free! I blame the people who vote for this government and I blame the people who serve in our law environment!

      martin.schoeman.33 - 2012-07-21 19:30

      And if it ends fair, his belongings should be confiscated to pay for his debt with the taxpayers. Sorry, I forgot, he owed the taxpayers money when he was opressed through apartheid. Actual fact, he did what he did because of apartheid. Such a law abiding citizen.

  • pws69 - 2012-07-20 21:54

    How many terminallly ill inmates have died before even getting a parole hearing? How can Selebi spend less than a week in actual jail, and then get paroled? Who in the ANC expedited his hearing? The same ANC that carried a criminal to jail on their shoulders as if he was a hero, stealing from the very people he professed to care about. (Yengeni) The same ANC that PROMOTES a convicted criminal (Booi) The same ANC that spends R10's millions of tax payers money paying off the debt of their thieving cadres to protect them (Travelgate) The same ANC that loudly proclaimed that said cadres will pay back the money they STOLE, yet over 5 years later less than 0,01% of the money has been paid back and this same LYING ANC says nothing and does nothing. Most importantly, you have to be dumber than mud to even trust the ANC, let alone vote for them.

  • pws69 - 2012-07-20 22:04

    It's tax season, and Pravin "Operation Vula" Gordhan exhorts us to pay our taxes. Why Pravin, you just piss it all away protecting your criminal scum buddies, funding their criminal lifestyles (you have personally admitted we over pay by 25% on tenders which generally go to your ANC cronies, NONE of which have been successfully prosecuted). Please explain to me why MY tax money must pay and support criminals. Surely that is criminal as well. I don't want to be an accomplice to a crime. Give me back my tax money.

  • mlondolozi.matshini - 2012-07-20 22:04

    Wow! Any news Shabir Shaikh and Hosni Mubarak, I don't mean to be insensitive, but, they should be dead by now? (forgive my ignorance I've been living under the rock).

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-07-20 22:22

      Lol. Ok sorry! I am also apologizing. I presume I must not laugh at "sickness", but i agree with you and maybe we are neighbors under the same rock ;)

  • petem03 - 2012-07-20 22:17

    Perhaps we need to look at the masters that taught this behaviour. As a national serviceman (dissenting) in the 70's I did 24 month service whilst a co graduate did 3 months because his father and Malan were hunting partners - a cynic would say that is the way of the world - the activist need to keep saying enuf is enuf - Selebi release is no different what what history made the norm - power corrupts.

  • ettiene.j.marx - 2012-07-20 22:19

    wow according to the article almost half off the prison population should be released.All the inmates with aids should take the prison to court for not getting parole.

  • frikdt - 2012-07-20 22:36

    "To not release terminally ill prisoners would not only be a serious violation of the Constitution, but a morally repugnant abuse of human rights." To NOT punish criminals for their crimes is not only a serious violation of the Constitution, but a morally repugnant abuse of crime victims' and law abiding citizens' human rights.

  • Jason - 2012-07-20 22:50

    "To not release terminally ill prisoners would not only be a serious violation of the Constitution, but a morally repugnant abuse of human rights." Can someone please tell me why this policy applies to Selebi (who may or may not be ill) and not to someone like Clive Derby Lewis (who has cancer)?

      blip.noodlum - 2012-07-21 00:18

      He's a murderer, for one. And his cancer (which is being treated) isn't stage 4 terminal.

      LynneOeschger - 2012-07-21 08:25

      From what I can see his parole application was denied last year because the Hani family hadn't been consulted beforehand.

      mikenortje - 2012-07-21 09:38

      @ Blip, by Selebi turning a blind eye to drugs smuggling, did he not contribute to the death of people ..... does that not make him a murderer as well??

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-07-21 13:07

      Blip.noodlum. You are a real humanitarian aren't you?.

  • Zama - 2012-07-21 06:35

    Guys guys guys!! This Slebi guy was staying in hospital not in prison. If I may ask who is his cell mate and his number? Every thing has got its beginning so it will end One day. ANC ANC MR Tutu told you other time.

  • luvo.luvos - 2012-07-21 08:49

    Those who argue about having access to Selebi's medical records should know better, it hasn't been done before and is not about to start now and that includes anyone's. Can we just respect the decision of a 11 board member committee??

      patrickxolani.manjo - 2012-07-21 10:12

      i can tell that u are one of the ANC morons , come on cant u see that we are being fooled here. I guess its obvious that only poor people with no power are the one's who should be in prison. Shame on u , askies but u are stupid.

  • Gerhard Mostert - 2012-07-21 08:54

    Zama you are a dumb morone ass

      alansmartSnr - 2012-07-21 18:04

      ..What has happened to "transparency"..and why do the DA or any other persons or orginization use the "Access to Information Bill" to force the corrupt Parole Board / Government, to obtain the true facts about Selebe. They should also insist that independant specialist give a prognosis. This is one more big fraud.. same as "Shabby Scheik's" Golf fiasco.

  • nokuthula.hlatshwayo.37 - 2012-07-21 09:26

    For one how can u parole someone who has never been inprisoner?I will rather die than to vote for this no good anc croonies DA all the way baby and yes iam black

  • mark.novic.7 - 2012-07-21 10:42

    Time to change the rules......Medical parole, and if not dead in one year, back you go to finish out your sentence....Finish and Klaar!!!...enough of this already. Can't wait till the ANC is out of power and this travesty ends!!!

  • gski700902 - 2012-07-21 10:48

    I am also an insulin-dependant diabetic - it does NOT make me terminally ill. How can diabetes and kidney problems (as reported by News24) mean Selebi is 'terminally ill'? Kidney problems stemming from diabetes are as a result of very poor diabetic control - and trust me, as a diabetic, you only have yourself to blame if you haven't looked after your own health.

  • louis.langenhoven - 2012-07-21 12:56

    I could never put it better than Zwelinzima Vavi said on last night's news....Selebi might be ill but NOBODY BELIEVES IT!. Viva Vavi

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-07-21 13:04

    The new medical parole policy. Why isn't it for everyone then?. Just another load of bull.

  • joyce.beeton - 2012-07-21 14:06

    If Jackie Selebi is genuinely ill, I believe he should receive medical parole. If President Jacob Zuma sees fit to "unconditionally" release thousands of sentenced prisoners - then so be it. BUT, there should be consequences....... he must then accept full responsibility. Responsibility if women are raped because these prisoners are released, responsibility if people are attacked and robbed in their homes because these prisoners have once again committed the very crimes they were incarcerated for .......responsibility if it transpires that Jackie Selebie is not as ill as they maintain he is........ and finally he must balance the scales of Justice by releasing other prisoners who are terminally ill - e.g. Clive Derby Lewis, who is genuinely terminally ill with cancer, he has served years and years in jail - every request for his release at parole hearings have been refused. His crime was definitely of a "political" nature. The main reason they will NEVER release him is that he shot Chris Hani, a Black activist. I despite "double standards" - and in the history of double standards, the ANC tops the list!!! Shame on them!!

  • visserfamily.aus - 2012-07-21 15:37


  • Warwick Bristow - 2012-07-21 19:32

    If selebi genuinely is that ill and is not faking it, he would consent to independent doctors verifying the diagnosis he is terminally ill.

  • graeme.potgieter - 2012-07-22 10:26

    Release clive darby lewis.its only fair.and he has spent more than 6 months in jail.more like 20 years and he is terminaly ill with cancer.oh i forgot his not ANC ???

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