Piracy threat moving towards SA

2012-03-15 22:14

Cape Town - The threat of piracy is moving south towards South Africa, the SA Navy said on Thursday.

Chief maritime strategy director Bernhard Hein Teuteberg said the navy was prepared to deal with this threat.

The key to fighting pirates was collective Southern African Development Community (SADC) security, he said.

Teuteberg was briefing reporters in Simon's Town, Cape Town, on the state of the navy.

"We have proposed a maritime zone and regional maritime domain zone centres, all working together to exchange information."

Information about vessels moving around South Africa would start being centralised on a system from April 1. This information would hopefully be shared with centres in the region.

South Africa formalised diplomatic ties with Somalia on Wednesday, which would likely help anti-piracy efforts.

Mozambique, Tanzania and South Africa had also been working together for the past year to secure the channel between the mainland and Mozambique.

Under "Operation Copper", a frigate and a helicopter, special forces and a maritime squad had been deployed.

Mozambique was providing a naval base in Pemba at no cost, and 12 inland control vessels, to protect the lagoon and area around the base.

Three Tanzanian vessels were patrolling inshore areas around Dar es Salaam, and between Mozambique and Tanzania.

Beaches in hot spots were being patrolled on foot, and local communities were ready to report any suspicious activity.

Teuteberg said once pirates were arrested it could be difficult deciding who dealt with their criminal prosecution.

"It would be potentially unwise to do the trials and incarcerations of pirates here [in South Africa]. We believe there should be a single point where these trials happen."

  • maseratifittipaldi - 2012-03-15 22:39

    One sure way to avoid piracy : offer our government as hostage.

      John - 2012-03-15 23:17

      hahaha...that is brilliant. well done...

      PB - 2012-03-16 07:55

      Maserati, do you think they are worth enough to be used as hostage .....?

      Kevin - 2012-03-16 08:42

      Who would pay anything for them?

      Ian - 2012-03-16 09:58

      How can this be? We have recently spent Billions on 2 state of the art submarines that were bought in a corrupt arms deal, that are now rusting away in the harbour because all of the people that know how to run them have left the country???

      Glenda - 2012-03-16 10:08

      The best suggestion that I have heard in years!!

      Byron - 2012-03-16 10:58

      one way to avoid pirates is using cowboys

  • Randomhero6661 - 2012-03-15 22:42

    the single point being 6 feet underground.

  • Alfred - 2012-03-15 23:14

    It probably wouldn't be long before 2 malnourished Somalians storm one of our warships and we have the entire world laughing at us.

      Sean - 2012-03-16 08:18

      Especially since them awesome subs we bought a couple of years ago for some exorbitant amount from some cadre tender fraud deal are all fawked. We also do not have any Commanders to pilot them. Fawk, our navy is an absolute disgrace, Chuck Norris alone could wipe them out without even breaking a sweat.

      Felix - 2012-03-16 09:59

      Sean, Chuck doesn't sweat and could, single handed, take out any military in the world - bad example :)

  • Staalburger - 2012-03-15 23:29

    Could anyone explain to me how it is possible, it being the 21st century with satelites, radar, smart weapons etc, that there are still pirates? Not to mention the fact that they are scaring the sh*t out of the modern world.

      Brendan Cluley - 2012-03-16 00:11

      this is africa boet.the money that was supposed to be used for satelites is paying petrol for ANC bluelight brigade

      Ze Don - 2012-03-16 07:27

      Because the civilised world wants to treat them humanely, instead of blowing their boats out the water & letting them swim for shore.

      Barefoot - 2012-03-16 07:42

      @Brandon is the ANC now responsible for the rest of Africa? i thought Somalia had that as a major problem and they don't have that much resources.

      Gungets - 2012-03-16 07:53

      For a similar reason that China and India are flourishing and the WEstern world remains bogged down. The West (and South Africa, strangely) have these high-flying ideas of human rights that are NOT shared by the people we invite into our world. The pirates are happy to allow handicapped people to die (google it - Marie Dedieu), shoot captives out of hand, but we feel that we need to arrest then according to a Western consitituion, read them their rights, 3 square meals a day, medical treatment etc. F@#$ that. This is how they should be dealt with - no less. Yes, right after that was released, some bleeding heart posted similar with the title "Somali pirates killed by Russian Navy where is the world?". It's war, why the rules that apply to one side only. Sink and swim. Preferably after being dunked in seal blood.

      PB - 2012-03-16 07:58

      This is the direct result of criminals being afforded more rights than victims. Human Rights has been turned into a joke.

      Kevin - 2012-03-16 08:45

      Read how they dealt with pirates in the 16th and 17th centuries and how the Brtish navy dealt with slavers and slave ships in the 19th century, and you will find out how piracy was stamped out.

      Art - 2012-03-16 09:12

      Africa is not for Sissies! LOL!

      Felix - 2012-03-16 10:01

      What, and ruin a great business plan to sell arms to both pirates and major transport companies?

      Glyn - 2012-03-16 10:14

      It is because there is so much pussy-footing around by the world's navies, the governments and the shipping industry. Nobody wants to risk anything while they are risking the lives of the sailors. The sailors do not even get a bonus when transiting the pirate areas! The navies are just window dressing with NO GUTS! Everybody is so PC that they are crippled. As with most things now it will take a huge catastrophe to change things. Maybe a passenger ship with 2000 blue-rinse little old ladies onboard will be taken! Then there will be action, big-time! Meantime the ships are insured while making a loss (so are worth more in the hands of pirates) and the sailors get stuffed as usual.

  • SL - 2012-03-15 23:33

    "Mozambique, Tanzania and South Africa had also been working together for the past year to secure the channel between the mainland and Mozambique." Didn't realise Mozambique wasn't on the mainland.

      Gungets - 2012-03-16 08:17

      Jargriffy 101 ...

      Felix - 2012-03-16 10:03

      Ha ha!

  • casabanderas - 2012-03-16 00:47

    Viva Russia......they caught a boatload of pirates that had stormed on of their ships. Then.....they chained them to the mothership and sank it with the pirates own explosives. Live by the sword die by the sword. Arrest and trials a waste of time.

  • Victor - 2012-03-16 05:26

    Take a lesson from the russians on you tube I support them 100%

  • Ian - 2012-03-16 06:17

    Then the pirates will be invited to the central point for talks, and then talks about talks, and then of course the appeals, while in the meantime they have actually nicked the list of ships and therefore know the exact position of all ships..........

      PB - 2012-03-16 08:00

      And remember, with every opening of an envelope, every meeting and everytime anyone picks up a phone, there has to be a fully catered banquet laid out - with the leftovers packed into the anc-MP's handbags.

  • Blane - 2012-03-16 07:12

    I suppose our very efficient naval personal could stand on the beach and throw bits of kelp at the pirates ?

  • Trevor - 2012-03-16 07:21

    Just turn them in to shark bate and stop this "African Brother" bullsh$^$Et so we can't "hurt them"..don't even waste bullets, ram them, sink them and leave them for dead!

  • Kathleen - 2012-03-16 07:31

    Perhaps trials and incarcerations should be held in a country that supports the death penalty

  • sdmelo - 2012-03-16 07:41

    I vote ... prosecute pirates in South Africa... I'm sure after visiting one of our hospitable prison facilities... they won't want to come back O.o

  • suhelen - 2012-03-16 07:42

    Sink their ships!

  • Trevor - 2012-03-16 08:43

    row row row your boat merrely down the stream

  • snylo - 2012-03-16 08:50

    Apply true Naval tactics :) sink them at sea, no trials, no fuss.

  • kseyffert - 2012-03-16 09:01

    How about some decent maritime recon aircraft like the old Shackletons?

      Blane - 2012-03-17 05:55

      I think there is just one airworthy Shackleton left though

      kseyffert - 2012-03-20 13:15

      Blane, correct, she is still airworthy but not operational. She now belongs to the air force museum. My point though is that we had them and we failed to replace them. Denel built the Roovalk. Do you honestly want me to believe they can't develop a proper patrol aircraft, even if they have to start with the Shackleton as a template?

  • Geoff - 2012-03-16 09:11

    Can anyone provide and authoritative, up to date status report on our navy and their readiness to deal with any maritime threats? Some recent observations in circulation were quite damning re the unprepared state of our vessels, personnel, technicians etc. This was alarming to say the least...considering we were once a very respected naval force. What is our current status?

      Grant - 2012-03-16 09:55

      Geoff , our SA Navy actually does much of work regarding interception and dealing with so called Maritime threats .However we are not at war and so the need to exploit the media for propoganda purposes is not important . If you want bang bang and war footage you wont get it . South Africa by reason of geography does not currently have too many so called "Maritime threats"?.Those areas of current concern of elevated tension and possible threats could be seen as the South China Sea,Str Of Hormuz,Red Sea+Horn Afr,Str of Mallaca, The Falklands(Malvinas) What is most concerning to us is the illegal fishing that takes place,infractions of South african/maritime law and smuggling -particularly along the west coast.Our Naval ability to project power is limited but modern warfare in this regard is all about air power in the Southern African locale/theatre.Our frigates and subs are 75 % operational contrary to popular opinion.This is above standard for any modern force that is not at war.Finally sir , a authorative report on readiness regarding our navy is not public knowledge,its not a piece of information that is passed around like a poular novel .Its sensitive,military information which should be treated as such . Whats important for you to know is that nobody is going to invade us , the piracy threat is contrallable below the Lat 15 and you can sleep soundly tonight knowing that the SA Navy is in control and firmly holding the savage,marauding,raiding hordes at bay.aaarrrgh!!

  • ludlowdj - 2012-03-16 09:19

    Which is why we have locals working for overseas companies to combat piracy off Africa. A very late knee jerk reaction by government, which one must question. Is the sudden interest so many years down the line, to protect corporate interests of for the prospect of lots of foreign currency payments?

  • Steynje - 2012-03-16 09:21

    "It would be potentially unwise to do the trials and incarcerations of pirates here [in South Africa]. We believe there should be a single point where these trials happen." Why? Maybe because our prisons are over full and just keeps on filling? Mmmm.

      Gungets - 2012-03-16 09:51

      Mauritius is alreadt complaining that their prisons are overflowing with pirates, not sure if they are awaiting trial. Problem is the "hosting" country will have to foot the bill for keeping the farkers alive. Make 'em swim, with a texas steak strapped to their back.

  • Glyn - 2012-03-16 10:02

    I say that there is only one way to deal with these pirates. One bullet, one pirate.

  • Kraken - 2012-03-16 10:28

    Cool! I want my own ship and crew mates!! I'll make Jack Sparrow's adventures look pale in comparison

  • looneylani - 2012-03-16 11:06

    Get Sea Shepherd to bomb them with rotten butter bombs!!!

  • MuttleyScholtz - 2012-03-16 11:34

    Whahahaha! Misunderstood the headline!

  • Mike - 2012-03-16 13:21

    A little past history story.... in the second world war there was a need for a mine sweeper in south africa, the ingenious south africans took a port dredger and converted it into a sweeper which became one of the most succesfull in the war. Why cant south africa do things like that anymore? some good examples, the cheetah fighter jet was put against the f18 in mock dogfights, the f18 couldnt beat it. The rooivalk, G6, raatel, the list goes on and on, our military technology was almost superior to any other and it was just taking what they had and transforming it. Do you know two Grippens have already been written off.

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