Premier: Revisit composition of provinces

2012-11-07 20:20

Johannesburg - South Africa needs to look at the composition of provinces, Gauteng Premier Nomvula Mokonyane said on Wednesday.

"This country must revisit the future or the status of provinces... we might have to reduce the size of provinces or there may be a creation of new provinces," she said in a briefing on the implications of the Census 2011 results for Gauteng.

At its national policy conference earlier this year, the African National Congress adopted a proposal that the number of provinces in the country be reviewed. This will be up for discussion at the party's national elective conference in Mangaung in December.

Mokonyane said some provinces needed to be allocated more authority.

"Those are major policy choices we must not shy away from. Myself and the mayors of the metros said we believe we can be reorganised differently in the interest of development of this country."

According to the census, Gauteng's population increased by 2.9 million people between 2001 and 2011.

This was the result of natural growth and migration from other provinces, and around the world.

Mokonyane said only 56% of Gauteng's population was born in the province. The figure was 92% in KwaZulu-Natal and 72% in the Western Cape.

At current annual average growth rates, it was projected Gauteng would have as many as 15.6 million people by 2020, at which point it would house 26.5% of the country's population.

"This means that more than one quarter of the entire population would be housed in an area measuring 1.4% of the total land area of South Africa."

Mokonyane said Gauteng would work with the national planning commission to develop a national urban development strategy.

"We believe the urban development strategy will ensure the province remains the country's key economic node."

Rapid population growth placed a burden on public services such as health and safety, and education.

"The figures therefore demonstrate rapid urbanisation, a phenomenon that has become evident across the world.

"While cities play a crucial role in fostering economic productivity and innovation, they need to be properly planned and effectively managed."

Mokonyane called on the national government to allocate financial resources in accordance with provinces' needs.

The movement of people from other provinces into Gauteng meant that the current funding structure needed to change.

Gauteng and its municipalities had to pursue policies which would address the high population density.

  • andre.ackermann.14 - 2012-11-07 20:36

    The ANC is knocking at the wrong door to get out mess they created through poor Management and corruption in the Provinces. Reducing the number of provinces will not address the chaos. Stop the flood of the Immigrants, appoint competant people and stop corruption but i am affraid, with the kind of Leadership we have, there is no logic, no vision, no honesty and dont tell me to stop talking the country down. I want to stop but the ANC keeps it alive!

      hein.huyser - 2012-11-08 06:34

      Andre, you ask for accountability. That isnt something we will get from the CancER

      rob.bayliss.94 - 2012-11-08 07:52

      and....manage the population by reducing the birth-rate instead of promoting it through social grants and freebies

  • altus.kirsten - 2012-11-07 20:52

    It was the ANC that uncreased the amount of provinces in 1994 and now the poepholle wants to decrease it. The ANC makes one stupid decision upon another. Put these clowns back in the circus....because the world sees the SA government as the biggest joke. The three stooges are Zuma, Vavi and Nzimande.

      Mike Peach Purchase - 2012-11-07 21:21

      Anyone know what a JACK is?

  • Desilusionada - 2012-11-07 20:57

    Social engineering like you have never seen before. Forget about apartheid. Remember they had the best teachers of China, Russia and Cuba. The NP had to make do with Verwoerd. They will not rest until they have proven to themselves that the place is a derelict wreck and the only survivors living like the rest of Africa. That place is where they will be happy. Stuck in 1994. Nice picture of here clenching little fists and claiming concern about giving some provinces more authority. What utter and contemptible BS. Sort out the killing thing first!!!!.......

  • paulvernonza - 2012-11-07 21:00

    Oh my word!!!! Seriously what a unnecessary waste of money!!!! These idiots are simply redressing the shop front. ( looking for a way to hide the failings of the Eastern Cape and Limpopo) Pity no matter how much you polish a turd. It ain't going to sell. At the end of the day another disguise to delay the inevitable collapse. We will hear stories for years about trying to get systems working, budget issues etc. They worked 18 years ago. Stop trying to re-engineer the wheel. Stop the endless talk and endless excuses and start to do some work. Having a job does not mean that you actually work. Clearly the only thing working here is the imagination and pretty painted pictures. CUT THE CRAP AND GET YOUR HANDS DIRTY. The migration of people is relative to the opportunities available. Just shows where the growth areas are. The areas with the greatest migration of people is the very same areas where unemployment is extremely high. Don't you think addressing that first!!! Will balance the development of SA better. Instead on overburdening the current infrastructure that cant keep up with water, sanitation demands, electrical and tarred roads driven being driven back to dirt. People flocking to informal settlements the list goes on. You need to go back to the drawing board and rub out all the doodling.

      Mike Peach Purchase - 2012-11-07 21:20

      They simply havnt got it.

  • gert.swart.393 - 2012-11-07 21:04

    I agree. We need to take a new look at the provinces. Too many provinces, too many fat cats, too little service delivery. We don't need a Limpopo, nor a North West or Mpumalanga.

      george.slade.161 - 2012-11-07 21:18

      Give those 3 to Zimbabwe --Agreed.

      adri.conradie.96 - 2012-11-07 21:45

      I suggest you think again.These 3 provinces are home to the bulk of our coal and platinum mining sector as well as most of the electrical generation to keep the "important" provinces lit up.We do need them.Now if we could maybe get rid of Gauteng with all the old mines,acid water,illegal immigrants,fat cats,hijackers,criminals etc. that might be worthwhile.

      gert.swart.393 - 2012-11-07 23:23

      Of course the land should be part of South Africa. It should just not be seperate provinces. It could merge with Gauteng.

  • Adil Smit - 2012-11-07 21:20

    Waste more money?

  • Mike Peach Purchase - 2012-11-07 21:26

    Jaarling unfortunately they will never change bud,never.

  • sefako.mokgalaka - 2012-11-07 21:37

    Leave the provinces alone please. Just render services to the people and stop wasting money which we work for. I will have no problems with your wildest ideas only if all public servants get paid to do their work and therefore doing away with service delivery protest.

      rodney.bevan.58 - 2012-11-07 21:42

      Probably not a bad idea to cut the number of provinces, it means getting rid of useless officials for one. I fear the main reason behind this is to strengthen the ANCs hand at the expense of the DA which would be a tragedy too far.

  • george.slade.161 - 2012-11-07 21:52

    Lets also rewrite the constitution so that all NON ANC votes dont count . THUGS

  • trevor.dean.10 - 2012-11-07 22:03

    The ANC would like to merge Western and Eastern Cape to remove DA from power. I think a better idea to reduce the number of provinces is to merge the Western half of Northern Cape with Western Cape, the Eastern half of Northern Cape with Free State and North-west, and to merge Mpumalanga and Limpopo. Thus 6 provinces instead of 9.

      malcolm.james.macleod - 2012-11-08 07:49

      There is a remote but possible chance that such a move might backfire. You can be sure that it would spark outrage on the Western Cape side and lead to a huge increase in voter turnout almost entirely in favour of the DA, the DA would win the Western Cape side by a landslide. In the meantime the DA vote on the Eastern Cape side has been growing by quite an impressive amount. I hope it doesn't come to that but it would be amusing to see such a move backfire.

      andy.boyd.90663 - 2012-11-12 18:46

      Whilst I agree that reducing the number of provinces will reduce all the bad things the local governments are getting up to, changing them will initiate more rubbish. The local government structures are in place (or supposed to be in place) - now they just need to be run COMPETENTLY - example? the western cape local government. Helen Zille (or rather Tony Leon who was leader at the time)and her (or his) merry men did'nt agree with the local government structures as was set out in 1994, but Helen Zille, much to her credit, took the western cape by the scruff of the neck, and sorted it out from an ailing ANC led local government. Now she has her sights on others with the intention of doing the same!!!Viva!!!!!

  • brutus.oscar - 2012-11-07 22:37

    met ons prez kan zumaville ook binnekort genoeg mense he om n provinsie te wees.

  • amanda.matthews.14811 - 2012-11-07 23:35

    Quote. "The movement of people from other Provinces into Gaugteng meant that the current funding of structures needed to change." End Quote. As far as I am concerned the ANC can move the whole Country into Gauteng and pour all the monies in. The Western Cape Provincial Government will be better off without the relocatees from the Eastern Cape and also encourage those economic refugees from North of Africa and elsewhere from outside the Repulic to rather go and live in Gauteng. We will fare far better with a smaller population. That way the W.C. can offer a better living standard for everyone here. Not fantastic - but better managed within the fiscal framework.

  • hein.huyser - 2012-11-08 06:40

    And we pay her how much a year? They still don't know that they don't know

  • malcolm.james.macleod - 2012-11-08 07:50

    "Mokonyane said some provinces needed to be allocated more authority." So they also agree that the Western Cape should be independant?

  • johan.oelofsen - 2012-11-08 08:03

    With our current slack border control all African countries are no more than provinces of South Africa....

  • Montagnes.Bleues - 2012-11-08 08:07

    Exactly what the NAT's did under apartheid! And where else in the world has this been done with good effect? The USA for example has stayed at 50 states since 1959. Ah, the commie chinese invaded Tibet and are about to try for part of Japan again. Zimbabwe did relatively well, until the economy collapsed entirely and had to be rescued by AID and gifts from their enemies. New borders are even now being defined by runaway state youth agitators. Possibly Rwanda as well after a million people were exterminated by genocide and ethnic cleansing, which had not been legitimized as it is in SA.

  • quartus.vanzyl - 2012-11-08 08:20

    I can see a big increase in public servants as more provinces are created, and of course we will have to pay more tax to fund this expansion.And bear in mind these new provinces will need provincial head offices, and for that tenders will have to be obtained (the tenderpreneurs already start smiling)

      Michael - 2012-11-08 14:32

      and so on and so on and so on...goodness gracious me but the ANC is refining parasitism to all new spactacular depths - at least they're good at something!

  • quartus.vanzyl - 2012-11-08 08:20

    this is why, under apartheid, we had influx control!

  • mpho.e.mogashui - 2012-11-08 08:28

    you people talk like the WC is the crown of this country, a state of its own.. well think again dummies, intergration is inevitable..

      marc.ross.965 - 2012-11-08 10:39

      Touch the WC and there will be war my friend. The first face you see in the frontline will be mine. You have the rest of SA to F*%k Up. Leave us alone.

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-11-08 10:29

    Mokonyane who promised to pay the medical bills of a young man and promptly forgot her promises once the cameras were gone. So what she say, should go in one ear and out the other. Just another member of the incompetent horde.

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