Presidency mum on Zuma speech disruptions

2012-07-11 10:00

Johannesburg - The presidency would not comment on Wednesday on disruptions during an address by President Jacob Zuma in Limpopo.

"We don't regard it as a matter deserving of a comment from the presidency," said spokesperson Mac Maharaj, who initially said comment should be sought from the African National Congress, as it was an ANC event.

"Nothing happened there yesterday [Tuesday] that warrants a comment from the presidency."

Five people were detained and released on a warning on Tuesday after violence erupted at a hall in Thohoyandou, where Zuma was delivering a lecture about the legacy of former president Nelson Mandela.

Violent protest

Zuma, who is also ANC president, was in the province as part of the ruling party's programme to mark its centenary.

Media reports ahead of the event had predicted problems given the party's recent expulsion of ANC Youth League president Julius Malema, who hails from Limpopo.

Provincial police spokesperson Brigadier Hangwani Mulaudzi said a group of people began blocking roads in the vicinity of the Holy Worship Church hall on Tuesday afternoon ahead of Zuma's arrival.

About 300 people converged outside the church hall and carried banners with Malema's picture, singing: "Zuma is troubling us."

They became involved in a fight with security guards when they entered the hall at 16:00.

"Those people are anti-Zuma and came inside the venue and started singing anti-Zuma songs. Then the ANC security inside the hall contained them and assaulted them," said Mulaudzi, adding that the police were called in to defuse the situation.

"Five of them, who were among those singing anti-Zuma songs, were bundled into a police van and taken away from the venue. We then gave them a serious warning to refrain from causing problems in the area. They complied and were released on a warning," said Mulaudzi.

ANCYL history

Zuma began speaking after 17:00. Violence continued outside the hall during his address.

"They continued to cause a disruption. Even when President Zuma started and was busy with the lecture, they were pelting police with stones," said Mulaudzi.

Police used a water canon to bring the situation under control.

Zuma's lecture touched on the history of the youth league in Mandela's time. Mandela and his friend Oliver Tambo were founding members of the league in 1944.

"The ANC youth was impatient with the leadership of the time, whom they felt were too gentlemanly in their approach to the struggle," said Zuma.

Three ANC spokespeople contacted were not immediately available for comment on Wednesday.

  • andrew.arde - 2012-07-11 10:08

    The cracks are really starting to show now!

      Squeegee - 2012-07-11 10:11

      Zipper is in deep trouble. Doubt he will serve a second term.

      jackal666.daniel - 2012-07-11 10:15

      Well I'd be pissed off if I had to sit through a lecture given by a 5th grader. The church even gave him a doll he should be happy!

      gary.williams.7186896 - 2012-07-11 10:24

      ANC about to implode!!! They a mess!!! Infighting is a clear message they in big trouble, just hope their brainwashed voters wake up now and see them for who they are... Corrupt, self enriching thieves!

      nrgx.nrg - 2012-07-11 11:08

      a painting etc deserves all the "mouthing off" the anc can muster...BUT violence at THEIR OWN PRESIDENTIAL SPEECH doesnt deserve a word? Is it because your house of cards are falling?

      razz.tazz.9 - 2012-07-11 11:22

      Zuma, dit blyk jou blaar het geval. Not even your cronnies can give you a LIFE LINE now. All good things come to an end!!!

      lerato.kay.3 - 2012-07-11 11:35

      @Jackal666.daniel If I may ask can you please tell me education qualifications of Hon Dan Plato (former Cape Town Mayor), Patricial de Lille (Cape Town Mayor). Since you only listen to educated people am sure you are being let down by the DA, shame.

      Richard - 2012-07-11 12:26

      I like your reasoning style, Lerato Kay. But it may be wasted on jackal666.daniel because he normally comes to a battle of wits and intellect unarmed....

      liana.loots - 2012-07-11 12:37

      Every dog gets his day

  • tgif.wtfaw - 2012-07-11 10:09

    Savages are restless!!!!!!!!!

      bennie.kruger.5 - 2012-07-11 11:43

      The Mosh pit has started !!

  • tgif.wtfaw - 2012-07-11 10:10

    Savages are restless!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • tgif.wtfaw - 2012-07-11 10:11

    The presidency is quiet because no one called him a Prick , everything else goes

      denis.delaport - 2012-07-11 11:44

      No! anybody else can call him that except ZAPIRO

  • martin.ferguson.7311 - 2012-07-11 10:15

    Savage like

  • Lourenzo - 2012-07-11 10:17

    Zuma contrasts Mandela's great and successful leadership

  • Gavin - 2012-07-11 10:24

    Zuma was always on shaky ground to start off with, all he's done is sit back and flip SA the bird. Now the crows are coming home to roost. The irony of it is that all he has to do to improve his situation IS HIS F'ING JOB !!

  • Tasneem - 2012-07-11 10:27

    cant wait for the next elections... then well see MR I am invincible ANC fall!!

      razz.tazz.9 - 2012-07-11 11:27

      You sounds like a brave politician my dear!!

  • peter.fraser.92754 - 2012-07-11 10:27

    The Presidency is mum on many things.The youth has no respect for their senior leaders.The leaders have no respect for the citizens. The citizens are loosing respect for the Presidency.So where will it end.....

  • Anakin - 2012-07-11 10:29

    Ummm...what about the REAL problems Zuma? Like the textbook saga with EduSolutions? Extract: "Coetzee worked for EduSolutions as a security consultant and has made a host of revelations. According to him: » He saw books being hidden instead of sent to schools; » He personally introduced EduSolutions founder Shaun Battlemann to President Jacob Zuma; » Battlemann’s business relationship with a former education department director guaranteed lucrative government contracts; and » EduSolutions had powerful influence over education officials in various provinces. EduSolutions has contracts to purchase and deliver textbooks to schools in Limpopo, Gauteng, KwaZulu-Natal and Mpumalanga."

  • Henk - 2012-07-11 10:31

    It was not a speech but a reading! Zuma never makes any eye contact with the crowd as he is struggling to read what the speech writers wrote!

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-07-11 11:32

      Henk, he can't make eye contact with the people while his finger is pointing to the next word he mumbles. If he makes eye contact he won't find where he had left off you see.

      colin.dovey - 2012-07-11 11:51

      The truth is, his "speeches" are written phonetically

      Jeanet - 2012-07-11 16:54

      Lolest!I'm rolling on the floor Jacqui

  • Gerasimos - 2012-07-11 10:33

    Has anyone noticed Zuma's recent loss of weight? I think he has been infected with that "slimming" disease

      Nyiks11 - 2012-07-11 10:50

      Don't go there please , I beg of you . You can ridicule the president all you want but don't get too personal , if you don't respect the man at least show some respect for the authority of the office that he holds

      clinton.badenhorst - 2012-07-11 11:10

      Yeah... It's called AIDS. He's had it just before that shower he took...

      ingi.raikes - 2012-07-11 12:06

      .....a slow pucture?

  • themba.thwala.98 - 2012-07-11 10:42

    The culture of anarchy and zero respect for elders was encouraged, nurtured and entrenched during Zuma ascent to the Presidency. Now his own products of anarchy are rebelling against their teacher. I will also be speechless if I was Mac Maharaj because no amount of denials and lies can put a spin on this one. The cameras don't lie

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-07-11 12:22

      Ngomane you are probably right. Zweli Mkhize is also a KZN regional leader. What was he doing in Limpopo? I think Zuma also made sure he brought the old crocks on (MK Veterans) deliberately to moer the rebellious ANCYL. He knew exactly what was going to happen. Intelligence services must have tipped him off

      liana.loots - 2012-07-11 13:05

      lol Themba, I think Zuma is filled with fear or apprehension and typically surrounds himself with user friendlies from KZN. He was dancing in the snake pit yesterday , I am perplexed though, why Limpopo. To stir the pot perhaps...

  • Nyiks11 - 2012-07-11 10:46

    Was the president not treated for teargas inhalation at Tshilidzini government hospital ? If not then the continuous clearing of his throat during speeches will intensify

  • danny.archer.589 - 2012-07-11 11:02

    As a white man, it gives me a warm, happy feeling in the pit of my stomach being able to watch these animals from the sidelines, trying to work out how to behave in a civilised society. It's a laugh a minute.

      Ntuthuko M Simelane - 2012-07-11 11:12

      If you want to see animal behavior, ask your Oupa to play videos of the tortures conducted in John Forster Square during their time. This is an act to compete for power, and minor violence is to earn them attention. You labeling humans as animals in the same phrase that has 'civilized' in it. Check yourself

      danny.archer.589 - 2012-07-11 11:23

      @Ntuthuko That's the difference. My "Oupa" wouldn't have videos of the tortures because the apartheid government knew what they were doing was wrong and did it in secret. They knew it wouldn't be acceptable to the civilised white electorate if they knew what was going on. But not so for your kind, eh? :o)

      mpho.mashego.35 - 2012-07-11 11:31

      U bloody boere nonsense

      danny.archer.589 - 2012-07-11 11:38

      @Seako. No, I wasn't referring to Africans, because then I would be lumping myself in with that group, wouldn't I?

      danny.archer.589 - 2012-07-11 11:49

      @mister.bang.tidy :)

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-07-11 11:56

      Danny I've just looked into my crystal ball. It says your grey matter is located deep in your behind, which is why you write such crap

      danny.archer.589 - 2012-07-11 11:59 hominem? Seems I win.

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-07-11 12:03

      You started ad hominem dude when you referred to others as “animals” you are watching “as a white person”. So you win sh**

      danny.archer.589 - 2012-07-11 12:09

      @themba - "ad hominem" translated from Latin means "to the person", so your point is invalid. :)

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-07-11 12:17

      Not it is not. You attacked black persons by referring to yourself as a “white person” watching how “animals” try to behave in a “civilised society.” If that is not an ad hominem attack, what is it?

      phillip.coetzee - 2012-07-11 12:19

      I'm a white South African, I love my country and all South Africans. I wish we would rather stand together as one unit and back someone who will tackle the problems that is close to home, we all have hearts, have the same feelings,fears and emotions....but where do you get political leaders who will stand for the greater good. All of them is there in the end for power and money,the nations people is just a after thought. And that is sad for us as white, black, coloured, indian or whatever you may be, we are South Africans.

      danny.archer.589 - 2012-07-11 12:24's invalid on the basis that for them to suffer an ad hominem attack, they'd have to be human in the first place.

      danny.archer.589 - 2012-07-11 12:25

      @themba...and as mister.bang quite rightly put it, at what point did I mention the word black?

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-07-11 12:30

      You must really think I'm an idiot neh. You did not have to mention it because it is implicit in your statement: “as a white person\ watching animals.

      danny.archer.589 - 2012-07-11 12:33

      @themba. You took the bait. Whether that make you an idiot or not is debatable, I suppose.

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-07-11 12:41

      Well~stated Phillip Coetsee. It will take both sides of our nation to pull us out of this quagmire. I believe we are getting there, nowithstanding flies like danny.archer and his friends poloyatonki, etc getting in the ointment. Where did I put that swat again danny :)

      Richard - 2012-07-11 12:45

      It is interesting to note that the most venomous racist hate filled posts are normally by anonymous cowards... That in itself gives me the satisfaction that you probably cower in a cubicle all day, danny.boy....

      liana.loots - 2012-07-11 13:13

      @ Phillip Coetzee, I cannot agree more. It will be a glorious day when all of us can look forward to a peacefull and prosperous country. I have not yet seen or heard a single voice that raise above the others. at the moment all of them are shouting and stealing on the same frequency. We are well and truly living with the seven deadly sins

      Lwads - 2012-07-11 13:37

      @Danny, I get the same feeling too hahahaha. To be rational, I think it is animal behavior. @Phillip, I wish that day was closer but seems as if its pulling away!

      Eye's Cue - 2012-07-11 18:05

      Hey!!! Not animals, don't insult animals! They are 'SAVAGES'!

      fhumulani - 2012-07-11 23:29

      Boers like u needs to be F***ken k*****led, Mofo

      sipho.sithole.94 - 2012-07-12 05:39

      Mr Danny, you 100 % rite all this donkeys of black pple who not understand they just blind and lack of knowledge and not understand you due to lack of education as you of South Africa we must stop to move backward instead of going forward. the big problem here is that pple always talk about racism,if you not black called person racist it sucks and filth we ruling the country now we must make sure that we do rite things special youth of South Africa be unity because if you we not fair all of us we going to drown because hunger if we keep on all the dangerous play close by our home allowed ANC and his demagogue leaders like Malema control us with no school a person who don't care about school from lower grades to higher level he don't go there even not talk about expert money! money!that all and Zimbabwe without no control full up our country and spreading crime shona's pple come here with Mugabe tendency to plot our due to ANC with no control.

  • danny.archer.589 - 2012-07-11 11:03

    I cannot WAIT for Mangaung! :o)

      danny.archer.589 - 2012-07-11 11:55

      Well it's obvious, isn't it? Because we will get to see a truckload more of this. It will be like a year of Smackdown vs Raw compressed into a week. Only it will be worth watching because it'll be real! :o)

      danny.archer.589 - 2012-07-11 12:03

      @mister. What needs backing up? I haven't made any statements other than that which pertains to my enjoyment of watching cretins damage each other. PS. Your name is Bang Tidy?

      danny.archer.589 - 2012-07-11 12:14

      @mister Fair do's. I prefer anonymity in all my online activities. I don't even have a real FB account.

      rob.baggaley - 2012-07-11 15:21

      bang.tidy. Well @ least " danny " still lives in SA, unlike yourself. Even if you are ex westville, your comments dont really count as an outsider. To live it, is to feel it !

  • rob.bayliss.94 - 2012-07-11 11:11

    Not sure if this degeneration into intercine violence is a good or a bad sign....because it has elements of both. The positives include Zuma sliding out, the anc divided and therefore hopefully a decreased majority and SA edging towards a working democracy with a stronger opposition. The negatives include increasing internicine violence, less focus on infrastructure service and development, reduced foreign investment, maybe even civil war rather than letting go of power.

  • TheyTookMyNickLaZynEko - 2012-07-11 11:25


  • Malavi10 - 2012-07-11 11:26

    Point made,if Shower is elected for the 2nd term, WE RIOT!

      danny.archer.589 - 2012-07-11 11:38

      That's what I'm hoping for. :)

      Malavi10 - 2012-07-11 11:42

      go to hell!

      danny.archer.589 - 2012-07-11 11:46

      I live in South Africa. I'm already in are you. :)

      danny.archer.589 - 2012-07-11 11:56

      @mister. You're the first to complain on wit grounds. :)

      danny.archer.589 - 2012-07-11 12:07

      @mister "You aren't as witty as you think you are. Shame really" That sounds like a complaint.

      marcus.makasi - 2012-07-11 12:19

      you're rite,the real revolution is coming soon.

      marcus.makasi - 2012-07-11 12:20

      you're rite,the real revolution is coming soon.

      danny.archer.589 - 2012-07-11 12:27

      @mister. You haven't ripped them apart though. In fact, if memory serves, you agreed that the identified cretins are, in fact, animals.

      Richard - 2012-07-11 13:46

      Like I said bang.tiddy. danny.archer normally comes to a battle of wits unarmed...

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-07-11 11:30

    The Presidency should always keep quiet, it is much better for our blood pressure. Maharaj is already stuffed with cotton wool and the rest is soon to follow.

  • johnathon.masters - 2012-07-11 11:45

    The ANCYL should be disbanded as an organization. They are nothing but poorly educated, illogical, intellectually challenged, misfits and rabble rousers intent on increasing polarization in this country. Immature, semi-educated, childish minds, have no place in the politics of the new South Africa and its challenges towards the uniting of all the people of the country, and doing away with racialism. It might also help if the ANC became less racially focused, and acted to the benefit of all the people of this country, and worked towards Mandela’s vision of a "Rainbow Nation".

  • crystal.core.5 - 2012-07-11 11:57

    They detained and released 5 people on a warning for singing an anti Zuma song? has a clip of Mr Zuma singing kill the boer / farmer / white with the disgraceful dancing SA military pantomiming his words at the ANC 100 year celebration in Bloemfontien on the 8th January 2012, well over 2,000 farmers alone have been tortured and then murdered since 1994 in what would appear from the songs to be a Government supported or even co-ordinated genocide, actual conviction rates for these murders are alarmingly low, the song has a South African court order against anyone who sings it, the anti-Zuma song doesn't, when will the South African human rights commission make a public comment on the matter, and will same police be arresting Mr Zuma anytime soon?

      sipho.sithole.94 - 2012-07-12 05:12

      Crystal,we don't know about that if he did that I would like the court of law ride on him and be step down no ways. We don't like leaders need leaders who don't understand the vision of Rainbow nation pple here in South Africa.we real condemn and we don't like it nobody should be die it just because he like the tree when strong wind arrive with dust he follow the wind.

      sipho.sithole.94 - 2012-07-12 05:17

      Crystal,we don't know about that if he did that I would like the court of law ride on him and be step down no ways. We don't like leaders need leaders who don't understand the vision of Rainbow nation pple here in South Africa.we real condemn and we don't like it nobody should be die it just because he like the tree when strong wind arrive with dust he follow the wind. ANC must come forward if their failed to run the country not to ruin it with idiot fake leaders like Malema the law here must treat us impartial anybody must be charge if he divide pple bend the rules with stupid ideas

  • malcolm.fortuin.5 - 2012-07-11 12:03

    i dont care who runs SA as long as they help the people of SA and not them selfs. As for Zuma he should step down and let someone else take over.

  • ingi.raikes - 2012-07-11 12:04

    Take a hint Mr ZOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMAAAAAHHHHHH! l did wonder why security had to be 'beefed' up ahead of your visit to Limpopo? Learn the lesson; even your sheep are moving to new pastures; baa baaaaa daaaaaaa DAAAAAAA! Vote for chamge, vote D.A.

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-07-11 12:06

      Lol, dude you are funny :)

  • johannes.modise2 - 2012-07-11 12:06

    President must first respect himself and he must also respect organization and citizen of this country,so people will respect him.

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-07-11 12:09

      He does not seem to know what it means to self~respect. Otherwise he would not be claiming his “culture” as justification. Let's remove him already!

      Nyiks11 - 2012-07-11 14:00

      Mthimbana So by being a polygamist he is disrespecting himself ? De Klerk screwed a married woman (Elita Giorgiades) but he is still regarded as one of the greatest sons of the soil , Bill Clinton yena kgaaale a ba nyoka a ba fopha ka pipi in the whitehouse. Zuma ain't my favourite person nor president but I think the attack on him for his personal choices is unwarranted

  • kgothatso.freddy.9 - 2012-07-11 12:10

    Mandela united d nation,nw Zuma(a president who does nt evn write his own speech) is bringing division of s.a citizens..2nd term???HELL NO!!

      Lwads - 2012-07-11 13:39

      @Mister Bang, that's if he knows what that means since someone else wrote it for him!

  • John Peter Steyn - 2012-07-11 12:27

    The average white news24 reader seems rabidly racist if the comments in any article on any given day are any indicator. Emigrate to Australia people, we don't need your moronic hatred here. You're giving other whites a bad name.

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-07-11 12:59

      And the most effective way to disprove your well~considered observation is click `don`t like`. Pathetic little people who probably are not educated enough to leave for Aus or are routinely bundled back at Brisbane/Sidney airport :)

  • castro.anzi - 2012-07-11 12:30

    The ANC is going down & must quickly be freed of lunacy @ its helm.The League of the ANC must simply continue to defy and reject the ZumGwede lunatics till Mangaung. Not even the serial polygamist's para-military marshals of former factional MK Combatants will be able to stop the anxiety that has rapidly grown against his leadership style & his forever questionable moral authority. The "Thohoyandou Zuma Rebellion" (10/08/2012) spirit is swelling the ranks of ANC branches across the country. Watch the space, Zuma will be rejected & defied until the last minute of defeat in the exact manner that Mbeki was denounced. Nobody really want to be led by an empty showerhead which is so amazedly selfish & obsessed with nice times. The Inkandla Empire must be dislodged and power be transferred to all villages equally & fairly. Giving power to ignorant fool is not safe, is like calling for rampant corruption as a fool is able to be manipulated easily without detective capacity to save the nation. Zuma just can’t be our 21st Century dream as South Africans, I mean really madoda!

      mzwandile.sazona.3 - 2012-07-11 13:01

      @Castro, I respect your views but this not how we should behave especially in such an important event. The ANC has process and forum for everyone to voice their views on leadership. The PC has pronounce that brances can start analysing teh performance of this leadership and discuss the calibre of leadership that can take us forward. When the nomination period start people can then nominate their preferred candidates. This can happen without being anatchists.

      mdandrease - 2012-07-12 08:16

      The nominations start too late

  • mzwandile.sazona.3 - 2012-07-11 12:35

    What we witnessed lastnight in such an important occasion - to celebrate the life of great internatially renowned statements "Nelson Mandela" leaves a lot to be desired. Whatever differences that those involved may harboured against Mr Zuma, that was not a right time, place and manner to display them. If these were ANC members are hope the ANC will take the toughest action against then - to expel them for life from the organisation. They don't deserve to be members of an organisation like the ANC that uphold respect and tolerant of divergent views. We just ame from the policy conference where all ANC constituences express their happiness about the outcomes of the PC. Anyone who is hellbent at denting the image of the ANC must be dealt with in strongest possible terms. The ANC have processes and forum for people to raise their unhappiness and NO TO ANARCHY.

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