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Pro-Zuma gang allegedly storms ANC meeting

2012-11-14 11:18

Johannesburg - An armed gang allegedly stormed an ANC branch meeting in Ekurhuleni and allegedly threatened to shoot anti-Zuma supporters, The Star reported on Wednesday.

Eyewitness Sbongile Ntlonti said the gang, nine men and a woman, intimidated branch members at Rondebult, near Spruitview.

This was because they believed these members wanted to nominate Deputy President Kgalema Motlanthe as the ruling party's new leader, instead of President Jacob Zuma.

The pro-Zuma group claimed they were from the ANC's Umkhonto we Sizwe Military Veterans' Association.

ANC Gauteng spokesperson Nkenke Kekana confirmed the incident to The Star and said it would be investigated.

"We have also advised the members to lay charges against the people who threatened them either verbally or with weapons," Kekana told the daily.

The ANC elects its new national leadership at Mangaung in the Free State in December.

Earlier this month, the Dispatch Online in the Eastern Cape reported that an ANC branch meeting, in the Gonubie and Beacon Bay areas, ended with chairs being thrown and two people being hospitalised.

At the time, ANC spokesperson Jackson Mthembu said the party would take action against any of its members involved in violence.

"The ANC has never condoned violence. If any of its members are found to be using violence to put forward their own interests, they will have no home in the ANC," Mthembu said.

Also this month, in Vereeniging, three ANC members were reportedly assaulted after a branch meeting was aborted when the quorum was not met, according to The New Age newspaper.

The Star reported that armed men, singing pro-Zuma songs, arrived at another branch meeting in Vosloorus in Ekurhuleni earlier this month.

Comments
  • altusvanzyl - 2012-11-14 11:23

    Are we the next Syria? Its a joke!! Unstable state!

      charlesdumbwin.dumbwin - 2012-11-14 11:39

      HAHA, this sounds exactly like an insecure, threatened, communist regime. They behave like this when they get desperate. Look at Zimbabwe and ZanuPF. The insecure leaders always resort to intimidation when they're losing. Pathetic!

      patson.nedzamba - 2012-11-14 11:40

      I am really scared

      brian.cotter.585 - 2012-11-14 11:43

      But surely the elections at Mangaung will be declared free and fair. This is the same as Zimbabwe.

      jeremy.thewasp - 2012-11-14 11:54

      And there you have it..... We are knocking on the door of 'Savage status' in Sloth Afica.. How can we be positive (Which i try to be) when this is now starting to happen.. Support our Communist Dictator or die.... This is how Bob Mugabe operates his piece of dust he call a democratic country Seems we are already a epic fail Zimbabwe .... Impeach Zuma!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Kawasaki1985 - 2012-11-14 12:06

      Zimbabwe, Egypt, Syria ... What a joke.

      jeremy.thewasp - 2012-11-14 12:29

      The ANC have never condoned violence??? Yeah Right..... Kill the Boer is not inciting violenc then and they fighting to re-instate it We are currently on Genocide watch level 6 6000 + farmers brutaly murdered since 1994 Hate to say it but we are very near a civil war and there are some very pissed of Boera out there

      zambezi.river - 2012-11-14 12:37

      The beginning of the end!

      vuyisan - 2012-11-14 13:16

      we(as the country) are doomed, its just a matter of time before we are worse than Zim

      paul.c.wadsworth - 2012-11-14 13:24

      There was quite a bit of shooting in the area last evening, now I know why. But no one has mentioned shots fired????

      NickvanGraan - 2012-11-14 13:48

      "The ANC has never condoned violence" are you kidding me? It is in their DNA, and used to get what they want especially if it does not happen through the ballot box.

      Eterni80 - 2012-11-14 13:57

      Wow, so stupidity is contagious..

      jack.milano.104 - 2012-11-14 14:05

      Claudia, I want you to write on my blog... Please contact me

      luther.kingsley.5 - 2012-11-14 14:05

      Solve your problems the savage violent way... sorry, the Africa way.

      craig.vanstade - 2012-11-14 15:56

      The NP only catered for people like yourself Claudia! Still, disgusting state our country is currently in!

  • koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2012-11-14 11:24

    Aaaaa you just have to love African democracy.

      narike.lintvelt.9 - 2012-11-17 21:40

      I have created a petition supporting SA's opposition parties' motion of no confidence in Pres Zuma. Please take the time to sign this and pass it on. Thank you. http://www.thepetitionsite.com/372/889/450/sa-taxpayers-support-opposition-parties-motion-of-no-confidence-in-president-zuma/

  • nomcebo.k.kubheka.3 - 2012-11-14 11:26

    And this is what our country has come to, so much for democracy!

      terrence.holtzhausen - 2012-11-14 16:54

      Unfortunately this is mostly due to a Tribal/religious mentality.

  • larry.piggott1 - 2012-11-14 11:27

    The local chapter of the biggest gang of thugs in African history. Thats what the ANC is all about.

  • Gary.desousa7 - 2012-11-14 11:27

    Savages,one level short of a thinking human being. This is not racist, just a comment on the behavior.

      braamc - 2012-11-14 14:30

      It is not human yet

  • zolisa.dlokovu - 2012-11-14 11:29

    Is this the ANC of Luthuli ,Tambo,Walter Sisulu? Its very dissapointing that the ruling party is now run like a boxing club.No political tolerance.No democracy

      ant.duke - 2012-11-14 12:34

      It certainly isn't but tell them that and you could die...!

      talana.malherbe - 2012-11-14 12:50

      True, with the emphasis on No Democracy Zolisa. Shameful!

      vuyisan - 2012-11-14 13:18

      we are doomed. lol

      BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-11-14 13:26

      No, it isn't that 'old' ANC anymore. As the old school statesmen retired, so too did any hope of real democracy, integrity and a civilised South Africa.

  • inxsive - 2012-11-14 11:30

    We are the next african dictatorship in progress. Take/Keep the country by force. Rape the economy and natural resources for personal gain. Keep the masses in poverty, and keep them illiterate. Convince them that its for their own good as the "europeans" are there only to steal what the tribal african way has given them. I love how Africa works.

      BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-11-14 11:49

      I love Africa, but I hate how it works. No trolls, don't even say it because I'm not going anywhere. I'm staying to watch you lot starve.

  • kenpeg.dawson - 2012-11-14 11:31

    THOSE WHO VOTE FOR THE pRESIDENT PLACE YOUR VOTES IN THE ONE BOX. THOSE WHO DONT WILL BE PLACED IN THE OTHER BOX.

  • Mzondi Wakwa Maqina - 2012-11-14 11:33

    I love what is happening to the ANC. They brought that to themselves. Who in their right mind would elect someone facing corruption charges, questionable morals, airhead to the highest post in the country?

      sam.lloyd.104 - 2012-11-14 13:37

      Everyone who is illiterate and only sees what SABC government sensored network shows them!

  • douglas.reid.921 - 2012-11-14 11:34

    Fascinating, this is exactly like a ZanuPF tactic. I'm waiting for the president for life trick, won't be until next 5 years expires but mark my words. We are going african, slowly but surely, enjoy.

      brendaanne.anderson - 2012-11-14 17:20

      @ douglas reid : Afraid it is happening at an alarming pace - certainly not slowly.

  • reg.nagel - 2012-11-14 11:34

    Were,DOOMED!!!!!

  • reg.nagel - 2012-11-14 11:35

    Were.. DOOMED!!!!

      JohhnyBGood - 2012-11-14 11:50

      Nope, we are properly f*cked.

  • koos.vanzyl.98 - 2012-11-14 11:36

    It's a culture

  • ben.louw.5 - 2012-11-14 11:37

    Hahaha!

  • Montagnes.Bleues - 2012-11-14 11:38

    uguh uguh uguh what a buuuguh, mashini weenie wam!

  • sthembiso.jali.50 - 2012-11-14 11:39

    This is just the begining. Zuma needs to go. Finish

  • jus.manning - 2012-11-14 11:42

    Do they lose their firearm licenses now for being irresponsible with a firearm? Surely this was criminal behavior?

  • jeremy.forbes.1293 - 2012-11-14 11:44

    Tribal warfare, the Zulus have never given up power without a fight to the death.

      Douglas Breakfast - 2012-11-14 11:55

      Jeez I hope it doesnt go all the way to that. Zulus vs Everybody. it kinda get nasty like hell. And we got Zulus all over South Africa nowadays ( afraid )

      uzziphathele.tshabalala - 2012-11-14 12:02

      Not \all the Zulus want this showerman,pansi ngo Zuma!!!!!!!!!!phansi!!!!!!!!

      Sarah Maphologela - 2012-11-14 12:04

      i agree wth jeremy.forbes.1293,zulus hv neva givn up wthout a fight,wht gud thing has zuma done since bein a president,i c no lite in him

  • Hemlock - 2012-11-14 11:44

    Filthy THUGS!

  • BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-11-14 11:47

    Ha ha ha LMAO. African politics African style. And we're supposed to take this lot seriously?

      AceOfSpades - 2012-11-14 13:03

      Can you enlighten me as to what "African" means to you personally, please.

      BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-11-14 13:20

      No I won't. I gave up years ago trying to explain anything to brainwashed revolutionaries with tunnel vision. Goodbye

      AceOfSpades - 2012-11-14 13:48

      Lol, why speak if you do not want to be heard? Round about the dumbest stunt ever.

      BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-11-14 14:04

      No, no stunt at all. I make my comments as is my right (and yours), and will very often explain if asked. Time has shown me however that trying to explain anything to half wit brain dead revolutionaries is a massive waste of time because the conversation will never revolve around facts, logic or honesty. All one get's in return is the usual revolutionary bollocks and rhetoric. So one learns not to argue with fools. You believe what ever you want, the facts throughout Africa speak for themselves, and will be contrary to anything you would like to say or debate. So what the hell would we achieve? Diddly squat.

      AceOfSpades - 2012-11-14 14:29

      Half a live brain remains better than a full dead one last time I checked. Bon voyage I do not debate with people who have their minds made up, I was however seeking to better understand. I would not want to miss out on the next big joke now, would I? So do hold your peace

      BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-11-14 15:10

      Yes thank you. No you were not seeking to understand anything, you were looking for someone to take your bait so you could spew your revolutionary rubbish on this page. I'm older, wiser and I've seen more of the good and bad in the world in 50 years than you will ever see in 500 years. Bye Bye.

      AceOfSpades - 2012-11-14 16:02

      Wow, you can read minds. I guess the only people you can talk to are those that agree with you. Futile exercise wise man.

  • fredster.mania.5 - 2012-11-14 11:49

    1 point for democracy...Ping!!!

  • Don.Tandy - 2012-11-14 11:50

    Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way you can understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic Main Daily Newspaper Editorial. Someone over there has it figured out. "The danger to South Africa is not Jacob Zuma but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of a Zuma presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Zuma, who is a mere symptom of what ails South Africa. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Jacob Zuma, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their President.”

      gary.guy.507 - 2012-11-14 12:11

      100% Don, could not have put it better. Amazing how those racist 1st world countries (is Czech 1st world ... lets call them that for the sake of our criticism) ... can see into and understand ourselves better than we can. And the 'Africans' wonder why the 1st world laughs when the AU says African solutions to African problems. Of course, the AU forgets to add the ryder ... 'with Western money'.

      justsayingagain - 2012-11-14 12:52

      that's the nail right on the head there Don.

      talana.malherbe - 2012-11-14 12:54

      Agree 100% Don. I actually quoted the same piece about a month ago and got threatened... didn't bother me though, its so true.

      BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-11-14 13:01

      100% - and therefore, South Africa will die a slow death, or perhaps not so slow.

      vuyisan - 2012-11-14 13:57

      fools? at least not animals this time

  • ray.molekoa.5 - 2012-11-14 11:52

    News 24 do you only allow certain comments on this article ? What about freedom of expression ?

      J.Stephen.Whiteley - 2012-11-14 11:57

      Try again. it sometimes works.

      BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-11-14 13:28

      They're not very good at freedom of speech. Very sensitive, like kids.

      mc.segal.5 - 2012-11-17 16:54

      Kas

  • KReddy - 2012-11-14 11:52

    The show has started. While the infighting carries on, SA will be left to burn and slide more into despair. All attention by politicians will be on scratching their behinds and wondering what to do to remain on that juicy Gravy Train

  • herman.mosima - 2012-11-14 11:54

    This further reinforces the call for Zuma not to stand. He deliberately allows thugs to force him on the people. Even if these thugs manage to force him through, we as ordinary people do have got a say. if the ANC put Zuma back, we dont vote for them. Not only that but also canvas for that. My advice to branches; pretend to support Zuma and vote ABZ. Thugs lack brains.

  • danie.malan - 2012-11-14 11:56

    So much for democracy.....

  • maven.punk.5 - 2012-11-14 11:56

    And so it begins...Zimbabwe number 2.

      maven.punk.5 - 2012-11-14 12:02

      ...or perhaps this was the doing of the mystical third farce?

  • debduplessis - 2012-11-14 12:01

    Yip Mugabe styled tactics delux!....seize & control military style. Very very very dangerous this mentality....no wonder Zuma & Mugabe are friends, neither have a clue about democracy!

  • asdhasgd - 2012-11-14 12:20

    As usual mr zuma is somewhere else and couldn't care less. What a pathetic old man.

  • crystal.core.5 - 2012-11-14 12:23

    If people are not asking "Is South Africa's next election really going to be free and fair under the oppressive ANC regime" ...they really should be! Threatening violence and intimidation has become an acceptable way conducting one's self in the senior echelons of the ANC, or "the thugs in charge of our country". It is, after all, how our president got himself into power in the first place: do you remember the bussed in professional rioters for hire threatening violence outside the courts if Zuma was not let off? Why is it so shocking that Zuma would now use the same tactics of hired thugs to intimidate in order to remain in power? A leopard does not change it's spots. If these shenanigans are already going on this early in the run up to the election ...the election itself will not be credible.

  • lynne.barker.7 - 2012-11-14 12:23

    This regime knows it is on very shaky ground ......... absolutely petrified in fact - the writing is on the wall and they are going DOWN

      sean.odonnell.1466126 - 2012-11-14 12:40

      Should that be the case, they are willing to take the country down too.

  • seanrossouwslr - 2012-11-14 12:23

    Welcome To Democracy!

  • randall.j.coetzee - 2012-11-14 12:38

    Interesting... No Pro-Zuma comments. Guess they can't say something stupid again to try and defend this one

      ant.duke - 2012-11-14 12:45

      There is a new groundswell that is just simply gatvol and many are ANC youngsters who DON'T follow this man's blind headlong march into anarchy...

      BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-11-14 13:29

      Oh they'll try don't worry. You always get one.

  • phumi.ntlabati - 2012-11-14 12:39

    They are hostel dwellers from KZN, recruited from the IFP, who are longing for the good old days of the early 90's! Just like we crushed them at the Shell House, these ruralitarians private army of Zuma, will be met with the language they only know of fire, just like what we did to the tribal leader Prince Mangosotho!

      ant.duke - 2012-11-14 12:47

      Whites should just try and go on with their daily business and pray that you aren't a casualty in somebody else's mess...

  • mzuvumile.g.mnqanqeni - 2012-11-14 12:39

    ANc z being hijacked by criminal element which shows that democracy being substituted by ppl who have hidden agendas.

      koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2012-11-14 12:44

      Who are the criminals? Hard to tell these days.

  • Sakhiwo - 2012-11-14 12:41

    Maybe they are part of those that came out publicly and promised that they can kill for Zuma.

  • siphobongohead - 2012-11-14 12:42

    This is how sub human anc members behave. Go sit back in your tree and scratch your armpit.

  • shaylene.stenger - 2012-11-14 12:43

    charmming.....

  • man.zanilla.73 - 2012-11-14 12:43

    Ha ha ha. The media don't like to be censored but they censor me.

  • firmsly.kabelo - 2012-11-14 12:47

    If Zuma doesn't go we might find ourselves looking like Zimbabwe,Zaire,Sudan,and Syria. Zuma is a dangerous man,because no one even in the ANC knows what this man stands for as he changes tune always and tries to please everyone.

      koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2012-11-14 13:15

      And therein lays our biggest problem. He is a man of “tunes” and not action. So what does that say about the people who keeps the piper in power? The bigger problem is who do you replace him with since the voting public seems to like dancing to tunes instead of expecting action and I’m not referring to procreation when referring to action.

  • Lister Motsumi - 2012-11-14 12:50

    Zuma doesnt want lose the chair , he want role life time like Mughabe no papa jy moet af kleem gee Kgalema Motlante kans boy

  • justsayingagain - 2012-11-14 12:54

    Who would ever have dreamed that our beautiful country was to be held to ransom by a gang of uneducated, thieving thugs..

      koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2012-11-14 13:16

      A few saw it coming.

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-11-14 12:58

    How civilized they are. They did all this for free?.

      koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2012-11-14 13:11

      WHAT?!?!? No chicken and T-Shirt….. THEY WAS ROBBED!

  • braamc - 2012-11-14 13:05

    Bomb the entire ANC

  • Tebz001 - 2012-11-14 13:10

    What do you think the hole ANC will do if they lose the next elections?

      joshua.sematla - 2012-11-14 14:26

      What do u think Zuma is building an underground bunker for?

  • wim.kotze.5 - 2012-11-14 13:11

    Just imagine: An armed pro Obama gang storms and disrupts a meeting of Obama's own Democratic Party, threatening all Hillary Clinton supporters.In fact this won't even happen between Repulicans or Democrats, let alone intra-party as in the example. If it sounds absurd, it's because it is. This is not normal. And I mean not only this incident. Yesterday, same place, same time, I read that there was no division in the ANC. Can any news agency please go back to Gigaba and ask him what exactly he meant? Please people of South Africa. What will it take to give the ANC the boot? We all deserve better.I see encouraging signs but I fear it will take too long.

  • maki.maphothoma - 2012-11-14 13:17

    I thought we are in a free country ?

      BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-11-14 13:21

      Exactly what has lead you to believe that?

      Hein Van Wyk - 2012-11-14 13:27

      you silly man!!!!

      Zolile - 2012-11-14 14:56

      I thought by now that the President should have already condemned and called these childish veterans to order.

  • mluleki.duku1 - 2012-11-14 13:20

    ANC has adopted Zanu PF style of doing this, sooner o later Police n Army will be instructed to act against Anti-Zoomer. ANC has lost its vision n I jst wish that voters will vote wisely this time!!!!!

      BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-11-14 13:31

      I share your frustration, and your hope.

  • kabelo.k.monageng - 2012-11-14 13:30

    Zuma is a bloody criminal!And I'm not buying a single word of what Jackson Mthembu is saying.for what its worth people shouldn't doubt that the gang was sent by Zuma.Anc is a bloody circus and lives will be lost as long as these clowns r in authority

  • Remmington Wekwa Nonge - 2012-11-14 13:45

    it's still early days to push the panic button. lets wait and see

      BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-11-14 14:06

      Perhaps, but you know we've been waiting 18 years. Do you think we'll see any improvement?