Questions over Phiyega appointment

2012-07-23 22:36

Johannesburg - Questions have been raised over the appointment of new national police commissioner General Riah Phiyega, the DA said on Monday.

"Despite President [Jacob] Zuma singing her praises when announcing her appointment, there have now been numerous questions raised around her employment history and previous business interests," Democratic Alliance MP Dianne Kohler Barnard said in a statement.

"General Phiyega has not declared a conflict of interest on two occasions that we know of - XON and now Lefatshe."

According to a report on Monday, Phiyega quit her job as director of Lefatshe Technologies and a few days later headed a fraud and corruption probe into the company.

A few days before investigations began, Phiyega was reportedly still listed as a director on the Companies' Intellectual Property Commission.

Kohler Barnard said this was a clear conflict of interest which was not revealed in her curriculum vitae, handed to the Parliamentary portfolio committee on police.

Phiyega reportedly also came under fire after it emerged she had links with a company supplying the SA Police Service (SAPS) with IT equipment.

She was a director and shareholder in Kapela Capital, which owns a 40% stake in XON, which has IT contracts with the SAPS.

Kohler Barnard said: "Her excuse in the XON case was that she was no longer in the position when it became a conflict of interest.

"This time, she's using the excuse that she was a 'non-executive member' and never had any shareholding."

"All of this information was conveniently left out of the CV which was submitted to the portfolio committee... Inevitably, we must now question whether or not Parliament was deliberately deceived in the appointment process."

Kohler Barnard said she would write to Zuma informing him of the conflict of interest and would ask for an explanation of how her appointment was decided.

Zuma's spokesperson Mac Maharaj said on Monday that he could not comment on the matter.

He said the presidency would await the letter from the DA before it made any comments.

"We'll wait until that."

Kohler Barnard said: "The DA believes that in light of the fact that the two previous national police commissioners turned out to be disastrous appointments... the president would have been most careful to scrutinise the CVs of all candidates."

  • sharon.erwin.96 - 2012-07-23 22:44

    It's just not getting better, is it? It is blatantly obvious that loyalty beats experience and qualifications hands down every time.

      Amanda - 2012-07-24 04:07

      Great start! Already corrupt and she will become the top police dog. What a roll model. Couldn't make it up could you?

      peter.fraser.92754 - 2012-07-24 05:04

      Stop moaning and get politically connected !! Thats the only way forward.

      maseratifittipaldi - 2012-07-24 07:05

      Yes! peter.fraser. Strengthen the Arrogance, Nepotism and Corruption. What do these peasants know, anyway. They must just vote.

      eduardhomes - 2012-07-24 07:11

      JZ appoints these criminals to keep the investigations away from him.

      eduardhomes - 2012-07-24 07:14

      Look at how JZ is operating. He is a sneaky guy, with loads of skeletons in the closet. the only way for him to hide it, is to appoint questionable and off the note people in various positions. That way, the public and media will focus on these people, instead of him

      peter.fraser.92754 - 2012-07-24 08:13

      Eish, dont kagga me out !! My comment was on a lighthearted note ! Not serious !Loosen up on a Monday morning !

  • tobydt - 2012-07-23 23:25

    Wow... the ANC sure knows how to promote the dodgy cadres.

  • sibonelo.nyathikazi - 2012-07-23 23:35

    Tjeeeer, zuma's corruption is on another level... \Loyalty before qualifications\ sickening indeed

      eduardhomes - 2012-07-24 07:15

      Look at how JZ is operating. He is a sneaky guy, with loads of skeletons in the closet. the only way for him to hide it, is to appoint questionable and off the note people in various positions. That way, the public and media will focus on these people, instead of him

  • mantsho.tlali - 2012-07-23 23:35

    We remove Zuma, we remove Phiyakga, she doesn't even have the experience of the job she is doing, l dont even think that she understands what a police commisioner's job is.Motshekga, Mthetwa and other incopetent zuma's friends will also go if we remove Zuma, nobody makes me sick like Zuma in SA goverment, l really dislike that man.

      Amanda - 2012-07-24 04:08

      It's called scraping the bottom of the barrel for the next loyal cadre.

      gail.hayesbean - 2012-07-24 17:01

      And the only way to remove Zuma is through the ballot box. You need to understand that apartheid was evil and those of us who fought it are who voted for Democracy some going back to the early 70's when we became eligible to vote and despite the odds stacked against us we registered our disapproval through the ballot box by voting for whoever stood against and to the left of the National party. It took almost 45 years and how many lives lost on both sides as well as international pressures to shift them. Nationalists are dangerous people but these were people who were well educated and competent and fooled a lot of their own people. There were principled people many of us women whose brothers, husbands, fathers were conscripted against their will who worked in quiet ways and the most important was through the ballot. Helen Zille was among them. Please vote and vote against by voting for a smaller party - ID or COPE or ? or SPOIL your vote. Perceptions are and will continue to change and there needs to be a major shift away from majority towards the other parties generally to make this happen. The ANC will not get the message until their majority is reduced by at least another 10% over all. Reducing the % majority will send a very strong message to the ANC politicians that their voters have had enough of promises and want to see them deliver what they are promised to the people at the bottom of the pyramid and not just those at the top.

  • mthokozisi.madlala.7 - 2012-07-23 23:47

    this is stupidity @ its core....DA is really if I resign from my employer and they keep in their database, i should regarded as employed by that employer.....really now, the oposition should assess the level of their leaders, cause this is beyond shallow!!

      irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-07-24 00:50

      Your ignorance is bliss!

      sean.lambie.3 - 2012-07-24 01:08

      @mthokozisi.madlala.7 - Another imbecile that evolution left behind ! Great mentality !!

      lerato.kay.3 - 2012-07-24 05:52

      @mthokozisi.madlala.7 one thing you must remember is that the DA is a hollow opposition with no solid policies or alternatives but rather stick to going around sniffing ANC's backside. Visit DA's website and see if you can come up with any meaningful policy. In short we don't have real opposition in SA, except a bunch of boeremag disciples hiding behind democracy

      christoffel.nel - 2012-07-24 05:59

      Policy my back side. Just stop stealing and being corrupt.

      jannie.beirowski - 2012-07-24 06:04

      If you did help them steal you are guilty of theft, whether you resigned or not. You must ask the question Why did she resign?

      tobydt - 2012-07-24 06:21

      lerato - And somehow the ANC is copying DA policies :P You dont know what you are talking about unfortunately. Therefore, go vote ANC. That party is right for you.

      lerato.kay.3 - 2012-07-24 07:54

      Which policy did ANC copy from DA? FF has better policies than DA

      adrien.mcguire - 2012-07-24 09:12

      @Lerato Even if the policies are the same, because the needs of the country are obvious, it is around implementation and execution of the policies. In 18 years of government the ANC has failed dismally on implementation and service delivery. The simplest of things are stuffed up, ravaged by self interest and corruption. Do you think there would be almost daily riots around service delivery, if the ANC was doing a good job ! If you want to live in the land of unfulfilled promises, then carry on voting the way you do !

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-07-24 09:35

      Mthokozisi, you certainly won't ever suffer a headache because of too much brain. Speak about stupid.

      nrgx.nrg - 2012-07-24 15:42

      HUH? I dont know whats wrong with you but im sure its hard to pronounce!

  • hjdeyzel - 2012-07-23 23:52

    This whole f@cking goverment is corrupt they dont know what it is to be honest.

      theo.joubert.37 - 2012-07-24 06:37

      That unfortunately is the truth. They should bring back law that prohibit a person with a criminal record from serving in parlament. The only problem is that then the ANC would not have any members left to appoint as members of parlament.

      eduardhomes - 2012-07-24 07:15

      Look at how JZ is operating. He is a sneaky guy, with loads of skeletons in the closet. the only way for him to hide it, is to appoint questionable and off the note people in various positions. That way, the public and media will focus on these people, instead of him

  • Sakhiwo - 2012-07-24 00:10

    Tjo hayi it is getting worse everyday

  • enoch.mokhothu - 2012-07-24 00:25

    Thank you DA, South Africa needs strong opposition.

  • Lacrimose - 2012-07-24 00:45

    We cannot be surprised. The 'eligible pool' from which candidates can be drawn is shrinking faster than the polar ice caps

      Michael Kgobe - 2012-07-24 00:54

      she is a strong lady no matter the DA is saying or the unti- Zuma's

      fanie.dutoit2 - 2012-07-24 12:34

      @michael Kgobe. We do not need "strong lady", we need leaders with sound moral standards, "serving" attitudes, and at least some level of logic to understand how to related needs of all people into policies and service delivery.

  • wesley.nel.5 - 2012-07-24 01:08

    Ai this Zumster have an eye to choose the once with a history, he can't get it right with these police appointments.

  • ben.lantz1 - 2012-07-24 03:32

    Read Andrew Feinstein's book "After the Party" and find out who the biggest fox is in the hen house.The Party is Continuing.They won't stop untill the cow is milked dry.This band of thugs don't care about their citizens,The voters are fatalists ,they want to suffer,so the struggle for the poor Continues

  • zolisa.dlokovu - 2012-07-24 04:29

    Jacob Zuma's 'appointments' making headlines again. oh my poor president what have u done now . Iyazika lenqanawe(this ship is sinking)-lets save it , my fellow south this what Hani , Biko and Sobukhwe died for? FreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeDooooooooooooooooooM at LAST. The right to vote for a better life for all. hahaha !

  • zolisa.dlokovu - 2012-07-24 04:30

    Jacob Zuma's 'appointments' making headlines again. oh my poor president what have u done now . Iyazika lenqanawe(this ship is sinking)-lets save it , my fellow south this what Hani , Biko and Sobukhwe died for? FreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeDooooooooooooooooooM at LAST. The right to vote for a better life for all. Good governance. hahaha !

  • phoofolo.lebohang - 2012-07-24 05:30

    Before I can vote for zuma, I thought he will be good president of the state. But now I realised that he is not fit... Its time for him to leave as Mbeki and Malema left the party.

  • piet.boerie - 2012-07-24 05:33

    Phiyega quit her job as director of Lefatshe Technologies and a few days later headed a fraud and corruption probe into the Lefatshe Technologies!!!!!!!!!!!!! Phiyega reportedly also came under fire after it emerged she had links with a company supplying the SA Police Service (SAPS) with IT equipment. They are so corrupt they dont even know who is stealing from who. What a total Fup.

  • lerato.kay.3 - 2012-07-24 05:42

    Forget the Boeremag debacle, let's protest against Phiyega! DA never cease to crack me up, any white transgration is a non-event these boers were planning genocide but no worries because it was aimed at blacks!

      Erna - 2012-07-24 06:00

      You obviously read more in the statement than the rest of us! I am sure that the DA feels the same way about the 'boere' trial as the rest of us but that isn't what this article is about. Quite frankly, if it wasn't for the DA asking so many questions (in parliament) and the investigative media, the anc would get away with a whole lot more than they currently are, which is far too much as it is.

      Michael - 2012-07-24 06:00

      Your got it right, what else can you expect from DA supporters, thats why we must never get fooled and join this party, with promotion of Lindiwe in their ranks, they know she is just a tie girl for Madam.

      tobydt - 2012-07-24 06:38

      Hehe, what did you guys expect from ANC supporters :P

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-07-24 09:38

      Lerato, the more you write the sillier you become. What a shame.

      el.torro.509 - 2012-07-24 10:02

      Commenting on that trial before its finished would prejudice the case, do you want that? Also they are facing the wheels of justice and will get what is due to them and they won't be out on medical parole either! If you ask me stealing public funds should also be considered treason! Either way the majority of wht people do not support those nuts and never will.

      nicolaas.baker - 2012-07-25 00:51

      @domlerato, and the boeremag dismally failed to kill an idiot like you!

  • Michael - 2012-07-24 05:54

    If DA want to run government, they must convince voters to get them to power, Zuma must start ignoring DA criticisng which is primarily driven to disterbulise work of government, We will vote for you againg and they will keep screaming from the back door.

      tobydt - 2012-07-24 06:24

      Zuma for a 2nd term will mean 3 new provinces for the DA. Please go vote for Zuma at Manguang :P

      jannie.beirowski - 2012-07-24 06:26

      Not only are the rulers criminal and corrupt, they are the best qualified liars as well to keep their stupid supporters believing them. The supporters of the ANC do not realise it does not matter how much they support the captain of this South African Titanic, the boat will soon strike the iceberg and will sink very deep. Then it may be to late to look for ways off this sinking ship, as even the life-boats have been sold by the captain because he also believed this ship will never sink! Jump in and swim ashore now while you can still see land because very soon you will be to far removed!

      theo.joubert.37 - 2012-07-24 06:54

      You can vote for any party you like. But then you also have to live with the consequinces. Don't protest against poor or no service delivery a month after elections, you voted for it.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-07-24 09:39

      Michael, why confront us with your stupidity?.

      el.torro.509 - 2012-07-24 10:00

      Er hello they are the opposition it is there job to scrutinise the workings of the ruling party so as to act as a check and balance against wrongdoing. Democracy does not simply mean mob rule, that's called tyranny of the majority

      Michael - 2012-07-24 11:08

      Many service delivery protest actions are taking place in the Western Cape, the province under DA administration, the claim the DA can provide service to poorer communities is rather based on fiction rather than facts. There is no other government that can do better for South Africans than ANC. A lot has been done already, it is imposible to speedily fix the mess that was created by apartheid regime. DA is not our solution. No! to that suggestion.

      Michael - 2012-07-24 13:57

      Mr Zuma, actualy the best idea that can work to speed up service delivery is as follows, we have too many provinces, it will be a brillient idea to merge Western Cape with Eatern Cape and Norther Cape. Hence the new premier according to more votes. Goodby Mrs Z.

      tobydt - 2012-07-24 18:10

      Michael - Eh, Cape Town has half as many protests as Joburg. Easier solution. Vote out the ANC scumbags.

  • mzukisijola.jose1 - 2012-07-24 06:17

    Who is zuma advisers ,not again please

  • jaysonpaul.beckwith - 2012-07-24 06:30

    Skeletons in ones cubard always has a way of raising its ugly head and biting you on the @ss. Surely with a job of such magnitude,,, proper checks would have been done. Once again zoom zoom,,you fail to impress.

  • Johnson - 2012-07-24 06:38

    Please show me one African country with good leadership, that is ruled with efficiency and one whose leaders have moral values - it does not exist. You can not except the blame for anything if you do not have these qualities - this country demonstrates it every day

      ratsaka.eugene - 2012-07-24 06:55

      And yet you are still here!!!! Leave us in peace while we find our morals, sir. Oh I know you can't, because in those countries, you'll most probably be a hole digger, since you are uneducated, mxm, pathetic.

      mzukisijola.jose1 - 2012-07-24 06:57

      Why don't you go to the country were there is a good leadership,if I was you I will be gone by now ,but I have no where to go coz I AM AN AFRICA

      tobydt - 2012-07-24 07:06

      Im an African too. I have nowhere else to go. Thats why we need to fight ANC. They are useless, and if you love South Africa, you cant allow them to misgovern much longer. Death to a corrupt and incompetent party.

      ratsaka.eugene - 2012-07-24 08:13

      @Sinuedity, there's a huge difference between a concerned citizen, and a hypocritic freak with a runny mouth. Johnson is a hypocrite, whose ideas are that of a typical racist white male who was brainwashed by the SADF. Yours sounds more like a genuine concern, because it does not devalue the continent's image.

      Bless Boswell - 2012-07-24 13:44

      Ratsaka, it seems many black people assume that white people have some sort of choice. It also seems many black people think whites are all racists. Many of us do not have a choice and many of us are financially very strapped. Some of us have been here so long we no longer have a call on any country - this is our home. Some of us have nothing to gain by rubbishing our darker brothers and sisters - we do however rubbish the government because their corrupt, thoughtless and greedy actions affect us all. You'll notice that a lot of the comments made by whites do not express concern particularly for the whites, they are primarily for those that do not have a voice. I have the ability to fight for myself and to earn some money if I am in a tight spot, but what about those who cannot? They need people like us, with our big mouths, to speak up for them. Don't knock the whites on this forum - if we are here it means we don't have the money to "escape" or possibly don't want to, because this is our home. Having said that, there are some whites with extra big mouths that are trolls, looking to hurt, insult and cause irritation - please ignore them, they have nothing of value to contribute.

  • mbulelo.pikoli - 2012-07-24 06:39

    Let's give her a chance.

      Bless Boswell - 2012-07-24 07:06

      Yes, let's. I like her.

  • sakkiem - 2012-07-24 06:44

    Ai enough ka DA

  • Peter Zylstra - 2012-07-24 06:47

    Now this woman is suddenly a general nogal! Wow it really has been made a cheap rank! This is becoming another disasterous appointment by zuma.

  • danny.levin.351 - 2012-07-24 07:05

    Come on people, it's cricket season and the cANCer just got a Hat-Trick. 3 corrupt commissioners in a row.....

  • eduardhomes - 2012-07-24 07:14

    Look at how JZ is operating. He is a sneaky guy, with loads of skeletons in the closet. the only way for him to hide it, is to appoint questionable and off the note people in various positions. That way, the public and media will focus on these people, instead of him

  • burtfred.brown - 2012-07-24 07:23

    I thought that Zuma had chosen her for abilities - I doubt he chose her for her good looks. Well it turns out he did choose her for her abilities, which are about the same as his own.

  • luvo.luvos - 2012-07-24 07:23

    It had to be the DA, who else??? To them a suitable candidate for any job should either be a butt-kissing darkie or another white person. They always find fault with any black candidate unless they are in the mould of Mazibuko or other Model C accented white butt-licker!

      royden.roman - 2012-07-24 07:28

      its our era they must just accept it, i agree with you 100%, to them it should be a white person.

      mzwakhes - 2012-07-24 08:39

      now u sound like a recist, obviously this is going to be conflict of interest, she is going to have a political influence to ensure that company that she has a shares at always get good deals/ contract with SAPS and thats a fraud that Malema was/ is still investigated for.

      el.torro.509 - 2012-07-24 09:56

      Are you then suggesting all black candidates are corrupt? I think you will find that most people regardless of race just want someone who will concentrate on the job of protecting and serving rather than a candidate who is trying to make money on the side through corrupt or otherwise practices

  • mdu.raphael - 2012-07-24 07:24


      tobydt - 2012-07-24 07:29

      Thats what you said about Selebi and Cele.

      Eugene Prinsloo - 2012-07-24 08:02

      You are being sarcastic right?

  • leon.coetzee.182 - 2012-07-24 07:35

    You can't catch a crook with a priest...

  • thamsanqa.d.mahlangu - 2012-07-24 07:37

    birds of same feather flock together....

  • sisie.indola - 2012-07-24 07:49

    Don't you just love it when the dirt starts coming out. If you have been involved in the government in any way since 1994 you know that you have been on the gravy train - so whatever happens firstly confess to such and then say i will try better - i was possessed, under the influence or whatever - it will make it easier. But whatever happens do not proclaim innocence it's not going to make it any easier for you when it comes out. But that is also called "accountability" and that is something those in government certainly don't have.

  • fani.masemola1 - 2012-07-24 07:55

    is this a face of a woman or what?

      Lennon Chenga - 2012-07-24 10:25

      Really? Of all you could comment on, you decide to attack a person's looks?? Wow!!!

  • mfundoj1 - 2012-07-24 07:58

    Some1 please explain this to me:\r\nWhy should a national police commissioner not have business interest?

      burtfred.brown - 2012-07-24 08:38

      Because they earn a fat salary from the taxpayers, and their time should be devoted to fighting our rampant crime, not taking part in it.

      el.torro.509 - 2012-07-24 09:52

      When you chose to be a public servant you are there to serve the public not line your own pockets. You should also be squeaky clean as a police commissioner links such as these denegrate your reputation and give the wrong impression to those under you.

      kent.paulsen.79 - 2012-07-24 11:11

      Then why can a constable not have a second job? All over when you work for someone or some department you are paid and expected to do a productive job and always needs special permission from your superiors. This she does not have and also she remained quiet about it and there is definatly conflict of interest if her Company supplies IT equipment to the SAPS

      kent.paulsen.79 - 2012-07-24 11:13

      Like Selebi who had a business interest with Aligotti, a drug kingpin.

  • DPMGG - 2012-07-24 08:04

    According to some of Zuma's critics,it looks like no one will be fit to hold office if appointed by Jacob Zuma. Let's play the ball not the man. I'm a big critic of Zuma myself but this particular case has no merits or the merits (if any) are so flimpsy. Past eppxperiences with JZ involvement has taught us to have our eyes wide open, rightfully so. Let's do constructive criticism for the benefit of our country not politicians including JZ

      Wally Walters - 2012-07-24 08:23

      most likely friends or family of his . its called job creation

  • loading123 - 2012-07-24 08:27

    I do admire the loyalty of ANC supporters. They kick your dog, and you smile at them and offer them a drink. You don't find anything wrong with this picture? Everywhere else in the world, people vote for who they think is right to run their country, and welcome opposition to make sure the ruling party stays on track. But vote for ANC, and welcome their corruption and fraud, and so they will continue to spend your tax money as if it was their own, whilst dragging our country into deeper depths.

  • john.radebe - 2012-07-24 09:07

    We need General B Cele back. He tackled crime. Now police cars park in taverns and open fields. Crime is escalating. Bring back the General. Despite the mistake, he did his job very well.

      burtfred.brown - 2012-07-24 09:18

      Please not Cele back - he didn't fight crime, he took part in it.

  • Nyiks11 - 2012-07-24 09:24

    President Professor Right Reverend Zuma , Nhlanhla Mkhwanazi was doing a sterling job until Rhia's appointment . Now you went out and brought in someone who dabbles in SAPS procurement AGAIN !

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-07-24 09:29

    Another Zuma appointed joke. We'll survive this one too.

  • kenny.mandiwana - 2012-07-24 10:05

    I think DA need to rule or direct ANC at all,which it will never never happen.

  • flysouth - 2012-07-24 10:08

    And yet again the woeful ANC has managed to appoint the 'worst of the worst' to a very critical position, rather than the 'best of the best' It is now a certainly that 'the worst of the worst' is in fact all the ANC has to choose from, they are all in that category!

  • Bloodstone - 2012-07-24 10:31

    Motlanthe himself said:"You cannot let a rat to run a cheese factory!"

  • Thembi - 2012-07-24 11:39

    Phiyega don't you have inferiority complex when you wear police commissioner,s uniform with stars that you don't even know what they mean?

  • Roy - 2012-07-24 12:12

    Get ready for the coup by your own people. this is already far too gone with corruption. Imagine what the politicians will do with a dishonest top cop on their side.

  • gloria.mathebula.9 - 2012-07-24 13:40

    If u promote failure u get failure; if you promote good you get good. Use it dont use it who cares

  • gail.hayesbean - 2012-07-24 16:41

    @Raymond Sabeela: If you are voting for the ANC I don't understand how exactly you are fighting the corruption in the ANC? Would you explain. Is it the strikes and toyi toyi-ing and tyre burning etc that is your method of fighting? IMHO those methods are only shooting yourselves in the feet. How is voting for the ANC going to inform them that you are fighting them? Staying away also doesn't send them a message as voters stay away out of apathy, because they take a holiday on election day or are ill. It is important to send the message through the ballot box by showing up and if necessary spoiling your papers because that is counted. You put it in the box with everyone else and when they count the votes spoiled votes are also counted. 1000 votes which were previously 500 to ANC 250 to DA and 250 to other parties if enough ANC voters actually go to the polls would look like this 250 ANC 300 DA 200 to other parties and spoiled votes 250 shows a slight swing to the DA of 50 votes and those spoiled votes tell the story that the ANC lost half of their voters and the other parties one fifth and that the DA gained a fifth. The spoiled votes were dissatisfied ANC voters in the main. This is just a ballpark figure obviously but do you get me drift?

  • morama.sebata - 2012-07-24 18:02

    Most of the thumbs up are from DA dumbers,Who still holds that rotten old view that cz most of the majority that votes anc doesnt have access to internet to express their views,they then representing the views of the whole nation.Time would come like as you initially believed that apartheid would never come to an end,where the majority would definately come!!!bugger them.I know the denialists would report this comment to be deleted.Go on and report it!!!

  • ramohapelwa.berries - 2012-07-24 21:59

    General Riah Phiyega has been scarce. You'd swear she has many other \businesses\ to attend to.

  • Rational100 - 2012-07-25 17:32

    To all the fundis who think conflict of interest is a crime, please explain to me the following: A member of a trade union is promoted within a company structure into a management position but he/she refuses to resign from union membership and the position held in the union. Is this person considered conflicted? ...and could Management be correct to then fire the person on the basis of such?

  • nhlanhla.mnguni.35 - 2012-07-25 18:27

    why DA guys always pricking on black appts all da time.cant u give us a break?during Nationalist Govt.we questioned nobody!

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