Questions over Zuma's US charter flight

2011-09-21 07:48

Johannesburg - Defence and Military Veterans Minister Lindiwe Sisulu will be called to explain the use of a chartered private aircraft to transport President Jacob Zuma to the US, according to a newspaper report on Wednesday.

The Star reported that DA MP David Maynier will submit parliamentary questions on the matter on Wednesday.

Maynier wants to know if the private charter company was approved by the Treasury, why the aircraft had to be leased in the first place, what the cost was and who accompanied the president.

He said he was determined to get to the bottom of this as potentially millions of taxpayers' rands had been spent.

"Although I expect the minister to try and stonewall, I will try and pursue," he told The Star.

While exact costs were not available, charters can cost $14 000 (R108 000) an hour.

  • Komasa - 2011-09-21 07:52

    Why was he supposed to take a SANTACO flight?

      fotre - 2011-09-21 08:04

      No, just a normal SAA flight - always wasteful, no problem about spending money on this when his brothers and sisters don't have homes or food on the table. No matter what people comment here, this is just plain opulence!

      Johnny-BB - 2011-09-21 08:06

      ....its not the gravy-train anymore, ..its now the gravy-aircraft...!!! ......he he he he he he..!!!

      Numb - 2011-09-21 08:09

      There goes your RDP house Komasa. Eish

      Thor - 2011-09-21 08:11

      well no but I am sure 1st class on saa would be fine.

      DW - 2011-09-21 08:14

      Actually I thought the president has his own jet. Wasnt there a huge outcry when Mbeki bought a jet when he was president? Why is the current president not using that one instead of chartering a plane?

      Worker - 2011-09-21 08:17

      Yes - then he would be supporting someone at least!

      patrickb - 2011-09-21 08:23

      The great African myth: UBUNTU

      myancmyfutur - 2011-09-21 08:24

      All other SA presidents from PW Botha have been using the presidential private jet which I beleive is in for repairs and would charter at times now all of a sudden Pres. Zuma is supposed to fly with 1 time or Santaco.

      Enigma - 2011-09-21 08:30

      @fotre- Where have you ever seen any president travel in public transport (SAA flight). Don't get me wrong I'm not disputing what the DA is trying to do, our president is suppose to use the Airforce 1 plane which is under SANDF. What ever questions will be asked we know that there won't be straight forward answers.

      Brieuse - 2011-09-21 08:31

      @Komasa The country simply cannot afford the wastage. There is nothing wrong with first class seats on commercial airlines. There is nothing wrong with economy seats either.

      Paulus - 2011-09-21 08:33

      @Johnny-BB: The gravyplane

      saabnut - 2011-09-21 08:36

      YAWN... Why bother questioning- he does what he likes regardless...

      patrickb - 2011-09-21 08:41

      myancmyfutur: It's called "forethought/consequential thinking". Let me explain the concept. When you have a state visit planned, you ensure that the aircraft is ready and working as required. These state visits are planned WELL in advance.

      Coconut - 2011-09-21 08:46

      Were there flashing blue lights on the top of the aircraft?

      myancmyfutur - 2011-09-21 08:46

      @PatrickB, the President has a busy schedule and if on return to one of the trips they saw that the Presidential plane is not in good condition then the SA defence has an obligation to arrange him alternatives means of travel

      Ayoba - 2011-09-21 08:54

      The President does not choose the aircraft to use. Security does. That based on security for our president. Remember He is considered the most important person in the country. The main issue by DA, although not mentioned here, is that the aircraft is owned by ANC member. If it was owned by some1 who was not ANC member or not black, DA wouldn't have taken this issue up.

      patrickb - 2011-09-21 08:55

      myancmyfutur: You have just proved my point. From your reply, "forethought/consequential thinking" are definitely not part of African culture.

      Henk - 2011-09-21 08:55


      ariete - 2011-09-21 09:22

      Why could he not take a business class seat on SAA, that's what the British Prime Minister does, e.g. when Tony Blair came out here. Banana Republic time yet again

      myancmyfutur - 2011-09-21 09:31

      @Ariete On official visits the president flies with a staff of nearly 30 people including security and admin and when he is delayed for a body search at the airport and misses his obligations we will all talk of waste of money. All this talk of Brittish PM using commercial flight is a smoke screen, its only him and his staff on that plane.

      Tolerant - 2011-09-21 09:45

      The SA Gov. also have 2 other VIP aircraft that they recently aquired at a huge cost, why did they not use one of those 2?

      Badballie - 2011-09-21 10:01

      No Komasa he should have used the Air force aircraft at his disposal, your comrades would rather waste millions on luxury perks than help you and yours out of your poverty, its easier to blame the white man isn't it?

      zackie - 2011-09-21 10:41

      why is zuma going to the usa and not fixing the mess he made in SA?

      letsee - 2011-09-21 10:41

      Because they don't care about costs except when is to pay ANC salaries and increase wages.

      Ayoba - 2011-09-21 10:47

      @Patrickb, Are you African or what? If you can answer that question, I will recommend for you the best country for you to leave in.

      DW - 2011-09-21 12:22

      @ myancmyfutur and Komasa - please follow this link

      Great White - 2011-09-21 12:33

      Can you imagine the heavy drinking and fornicating that went on inside that plane...what with the two wives n all. The stink must have been mif bru!

      The Wonderer - 2011-09-21 12:39

      @Henk, I suggest we only pay taxes to the party we VOTED for, WOULD LOVE to see how the ANC survives then!!

      solly - 2011-09-21 22:31

      No, but with so many poor south africans in this country that money could have been spent more wisely. It could have helped alleviate the problem of hunger amongst the poor of the poor. This is costing the tax payer money -for what?

      James - 2011-09-22 02:52

      @DW....she's broekeenn!

      Bantu74 - 2011-09-22 17:15

      Mr Zuma you are wrong you not do that. People are suffering here and you wasting knowingly. Why Why?

      sniperman - 2011-09-23 13:50

      @Thor. 1st class SAA not that great. Believe me I've used it a couple of times. Secondly he would have battled to get his fat ars* into the toilet for that little mile high club adventure.

      emohex - 2011-09-23 14:58

      @Fotre- you are stupid. do you have an idea on the amount of security detail they would have to employ to deem a public flight safe? they would probably have to book out the whole 1st class cabin)(which would probably cost more than the chartered plane), inconvenience other flyers etc. etc. I really wish you guys would give more credit to your minds, as opposed to just leveling everything down to the corruptness of the ANC/Government/Black population...

      emohex - 2011-09-23 15:26

      If there's one thing I hate, it is people who don't know how to think, and unfortunately 80% of the people on this forum are like this. here's a little lesson in maths: the chartered plane costs R108k per hour, multiply that by 15 hours of flight and the total bill is R1,62mill (for the whole delegation). A first class ticket on BA (JHB to Houston) is R117,295 per person. This is a state visit- lets say there's a delegation of 15 people including security: the total bill is R1,76mill- this is if everyone has just one seat- nevermind the extra seats they will have to pay for so they can be cordoned off for security. if Zuma had taken a plane, it would have come up to close to R 3 million, instead of the R1,6mill its costing now....everyone must just grow up and start using their brains for a change....

      daniel.w.gie - 2011-09-24 09:47

      Komasa , I tell you what , those taxi guys are not asking for a handout , not running a perfectly good airline into the ground ( S A A ) . They are getting into the swing of things and building a business . I will buy shares in a well run business . In a few years time we will look at the taxi guys and say Eish well done . yes and use the state run hospitals too . why not .

  • Warren - 2011-09-21 07:52

    The Prime Minister of England flies commercial (British Air).

      burtfred - 2011-09-21 08:06

      Komasa, you are talking rubbish. I once flew (economy) on a BA flight that had Nic Clegg, the deputy PM on board (in first class). No fuss was made, he didn't have any wives with him, just 2 security officers.

      sapsprotect - 2011-09-21 08:12

      Komasa, you have no idea what you are talking about. I have personally seen many other Head-of-States useing commercial airlines with private passengers onboard. This is just a plain sighted abuse of state funds.

      Thor - 2011-09-21 08:15

      ol showerhead is probably scared someone spills a drink on his bodygaurd again. Also the plane he rented had a queen size bed. You dont get that on saa. how will shoewerhead go 20hours without a bed close enough to take care of business.

      Worker - 2011-09-21 08:18

      Komasa - check the facts first.

      Komasa - 2011-09-21 08:18

      Amazing how stereotypes always have first hand knowledge either by their own experience or that of their cousins and friends. Have you not been on a flight with David Cameron or maybe someone close to you?

      AMS-Dammer - 2011-09-21 08:27

      I flew on BA from London Heathrow to LAX in the US, on the VERY SAME PLANE AS DAVID CAMERON. Yes he had 6 Personal Body Guards with him in 1st Class. Was nothing strange about it all. We just had to remain seated, until he and his entourage had alighted from the plane.... Must have been close on 250 people on the flight... What makes Zuma so special???? That SHOWER ROSE, POKING OUT THE TOP OF HIS HEAD?

      patrickb - 2011-09-21 08:28

      Komasa: Get over yourself. Zuma and all his ANC miscreants waste hundreds of millions annually. Time to lay the blame where it is deserved.

      PikeLee - 2011-09-21 08:29

      @Komasa You really are terribly thick, aren't you...

      ANC-FTL - 2011-09-21 08:35

      Komasa, so you support our government wasting tax payers money that is supposed to be spent on the people not the president who doesn’t even deserve the job in the first place - wake up and smell the coffee what has this got to do with stereotyping? We are always told they need more money for this they need more money for that hows about stop wasting so much so we are not taxed to death – really is a private jet needed in this day and age?

      saabnut - 2011-09-21 08:37

      The Prime Minister of England is not a self-enriching, thieving, criminal bigot!!!

      WhirlPool - 2011-09-21 08:41

      Komasa, Please do us all a favour and go comment on your soweto times or something. You just here to irritate everyone. Why does one lost twit come here and comment and make no sense. You will scroll down to every comment and respond. Another BEE job wasted, this is why it will never work. GO DO SOME WORK.

      Koos Poggenpoel - 2011-09-21 08:55

      @Komasa & myancmyf***up - The british prime does fly commercially as stated here. Whether they charter of fly commercial is irrespective as the UK taxpayers maney wirk for them to the extent of 70 - 80 pence per pound. Showerhead must not try and live it up like the first world countries as we the taxpayer only has 8 - 15c of each tax rand working for us (do not have the article at hand with the exact layout - so ballpark!) and the fat @ss thinks he is entitled to charter a plane. Get the tax money working for us first and then it MIGHT be OK for showerhead and his corrupt cronies to fly chartered flights. OPEN your eyes, you beloved is stealing from you and me and thinks it is OK. We are not the UK or the US that has very limited corruption and it first world. Showerheads Boeing should be sold for RDP houses and him and his cronies should fly commercial. S'est la vie!

      Teemachine - 2011-09-21 10:53

      Take his chefs with. Lol!

      Sven - 2011-09-21 10:59

      @komasa + My ancmyfuture, David Cameron and his wife flew to their summer holiday on Easy-Jet, a cost-cutting airline similar to Kuluhla in South Africa. The New Zealand and Australian Heads of State also catch commercial airlines. The President of the United States is the only head of state that has a country rich enough to have a "Presidential Plane", and as the most powerful leader in the world stands more chance of assassination than any other. Jacob Zuma and every other African head of state, demand such luxuries from their countries just because their ego's need such material confirmation of how important they are.

      Niekie - 2011-09-21 11:10

      komasa, you are a arrogant fool. Firstly you are talking nonsense! The British PM uses BA flights, they seal of a part of the first class for him and his staff. Then when you realise that you are wrong you start playing the race card again! Go and talk nonsense to your sangoma! Mogo!

      Ayoba - 2011-09-21 11:49

      Why only choose Prime Minister of England out of many other leaders in the world? Is he the benchmark for S.A.? Don't ignore the fact that He is opening himself to terrorist attacks by using public planes. That is why his bodyguards do not approve of this latest changes. He might soon go back to his chartered Boeing 767's and His Royal Air Force planes.

      Liberty - 2011-09-21 11:55

      And so does the queen.

      Mxhuma - 2011-09-21 17:22

      What about prez Mugabe and King Mswati III?

  • El Nicko - 2011-09-21 07:56

    cause its zooma , pissing away OUR money is what they do best !! viva to anarchy nepotism corruption viva.

  • realist03 - 2011-09-21 07:58

    Explains the petrol increase to once again support the anc communist regimes lavish lifestyle.

  • proudly - 2011-09-21 08:05

    The excuse will be-'his aircraft was being servised'. Then we wonder why the other ministers are doing the same thing.

      Worker - 2011-09-21 08:23

      ?What was being serviced ? - his ego ?

      AMS-Dammer - 2011-09-21 08:30


  • Numb - 2011-09-21 08:07

    The DA must take that cost out of his annual salary. Why must I/we pay for his selfish lifestyle?

      pragmatism - 2011-09-21 08:11

      the DA government is bankrolled by the supreme government of the ANC... not the other way round ...

      Kenno - 2011-09-21 08:53

      Supreme????? Ha ha ha

      Kenno - 2011-09-21 08:55

      @ Pragmatism and Komasa...What about the ignorant fool who refused to go through the x ray machine in Scandanavia and costs hundreds of thousands to charter a flight? That is the new buzz word of the ANC Charter a flight and let the FOOLS who vote for us suffer!!! Your loyal support proves your ignorance!

      Koos Poggenpoel - 2011-09-21 09:00

      @Pragmatism - WRONG! Epic fail to make a comment like that. MP are paid from the stae coffers, the rest of the DA makes the required monies the same way as any other party in our country, DONATIONS!

      Koos Poggenpoel - 2011-09-21 09:01

      Sorry for the typo's, my keyboard is ancient and on its way out!

  • Sketchi - 2011-09-21 08:08

    It wasnt a charter flight, everyone thought it was because the only people on the flight was his kids and wifes! and that alone fills up a whole plane! when will the ANC followers open there eyes and realise that they dont care about them and only there next free trip and paycheck!???????

  • Bardy - 2011-09-21 08:08

    What else can you expect from the rich ANC? Using our tax money for their own benefit! He does not want the inconvenience of a commercial flight so why not charter your own aircraft? I am glad the DA is questioning all this corruption from the ANC. The people are dying in poverty but their president can charter a plain costing millions? Does not make sense!

      Bardy - 2011-09-21 08:19

      *charter a plane

  • Mart - 2011-09-21 08:11

    I thought we bought a 'Presidential Jet' a while back, or is the cost of using it 'prohibitive' ?

  • pragmatism - 2011-09-21 08:12

    he is the President of the Republic of South Africa, he is ENTITLED to a little luxury and proper security. He is no ordinary person like simpletons commenting here... He is out there representing SA/Africa's interest. I wish you lot can just shut up... always complaining, you have dedicated your lives to worrying about other people... are your lives that inferior...

      Ollie - 2011-09-21 08:20

      He should be thinking about all the people that voted him in - that are starving and have no basic needs ie electricity - not wasting our tax money.

      Worker - 2011-09-21 08:28

      He is a corrupt politician (I don't believe there is another type of politician - whichever party), and he is milking SA for all he can get whilst he still has the ability. Other presidents, prime ministers etc travel at lower rates. SA cannot afford this.

      pragmatism - 2011-09-21 08:36

      well AMS-Dammer, you aren't the president... rocket scientist as you may claim to be ...

      carvern jacobs - 2011-09-21 08:45

      what a idiot, putting JZ on a paddestool to. lookslike you wanne take shower with

      PikeLee - 2011-09-21 08:46

      He is entitled to nothing, he is a public servant. He should be looking out for all South African, not just his own interests.

      fotre - 2011-09-21 08:51

      Oh please, I earn more in 3 months than he does in a year. But I don't waste money like this, because I have to actually work for it, I don't get a free ride. It's no use arguing with fools!

      Kenno - 2011-09-21 08:57

      Actually....YOU are the ignorant one! you support corruption and fraud based on colour. You sad, pathetic fool!

      Koos Poggenpoel - 2011-09-21 09:04

      @pragmatism - please go play in the street with you primary school friends and get of you fathers PC. It is clear that you cannot think for yourself....

      Tolerant - 2011-09-21 09:49

      On this trip he is also taking more than 1 woman with him, 1 wife and a fiance. Nice to be Pres.

      bonny - 2011-09-21 10:24

      He is not entitled to half of what he thinks he is. He is certainly not an ordinary person...the average ordinary person is a lot smarter.

      zackie - 2011-09-21 10:48

      Zoom Zoom should stay in SA to fix the country's problems rather than go overseas and try to mix with intelligent leaders

      Ayoba - 2011-09-21 12:32

      @pragmatism, I agree with you. We shall not compromise the safety of our President by trying to please DA and His haters.

      Wishbone - 2011-09-21 13:34

      @Prag. If he genuinely was representing SA's interests I believe there would hardly be any criticism. The reality is that Zuma, and the rest of the thieving ANC, represent their own interests first - at the expense of the taxpayer of course. If you are indeed a taxpayer, then I find it hard to believe that your comment is sincere and not Trollglish.

      gatvol4corru - 2011-09-21 18:22

      hey dimwit -- you and the comrades can pay for Jacob's luxury out of the money stolen with the corruption! How about that?

      Kevin - 2011-11-04 07:58

      Prags old chap, couldn't agree more. He SHOULD be entitled to a little luxury and proper security. But is chartering a plane while his official one is still not fixed a 'little' or a 'lot'!?? If he travels on his own plane, how many security guys does he need? Maybe if he was doing a better job with our money and our country I might be prepared to grant him his 'little' luxuries. But right now, he's ripping us off.

  • Komasa - 2011-09-21 08:12

    @Numb I have my own house and not RDP, thanks.

      Johnny-BB - 2011-09-21 08:16

      Komasa, ...and a nice AA/BEE job...???

      Ian - 2011-09-21 08:26

      nice having you fat ass on the gravy plane

      Numb - 2011-09-21 08:27

      Ag, no doubt I contributed to the purchase of your house somehow as usual.

      Worker - 2011-09-21 08:29

      Good, but make sure that others have the opportunity to get ahead by making the politicians ACCOUNTABLE for EVERYTHING they do and say - ALL parties.

      WhirlPool - 2011-09-21 08:35

      Komasa, Please do us all a favour and go comment on your soweto times or something. You just here to irritate everyone. Why does one lost twit come here and comment and make no sense. You will scroll down to every comment and respond. Another BEE job wasted, this is why it will never work. GO DO SOME WORK.

      Kenno - 2011-09-21 08:58

      ....but clearly you are still stupid!! How can anyone with a brain justify corruption???

      ubufakazi - 2011-09-21 09:02

      OHHHH Johnny please man... Really!!! do we have to justify the BEE situation!!!!!

  • Espresso - 2011-09-21 08:14

    I would think the true questions should be: Does the aircraft owner and/or the charter company have any ties to government or personally with ministers? Was a proper tender process followed? What were the available alternatives? I certainly hope the President's sole purposse for the trip wasn't to go gawk at the NYSE.

  • Worker - 2011-09-21 08:16

    He probably believes he deserves to be a HIGH (cost) flyer, and can does as he pleases, taking part of his harem too. Total disregard for anyone else ! Welcome to the reality of the ANC.

      Humpme Dumpm - 2011-09-21 08:40

      16 hour flight........5 many times can he join the "MILE HIGH CLUB".........BUT DOES THE PLANE HAVE A SHOWER???

  • jstathought - 2011-09-21 08:20

    Was a presidential aircraft not purchased for this reason ?

      shaun.cousins1 - 2011-09-21 08:32

      one of his wives were using it....

      myancmyfutur - 2011-09-21 09:03

      jstathought You're perhaps the only person that make sensse on this blog and I hope I could also get the answer from Ms Sisulu. I'm just surprissed that everyone wants to know wh did he not use a commercial flight?

      Tolerant - 2011-09-21 10:01

      Recently 2 more planes have been added (at high costs) to fly around the VIP's of SA. Who is using them?

  • Heinster - 2011-09-21 08:20

    Wasn't he suppose to use the presidential private jet? No wait it's being used by Julius. I think Julius gave him the green light to use a chartered flight...That must be it

  • IsThatAFact - 2011-09-21 08:21

    Eish the plane she is broken.

      shaun.cousins1 - 2011-09-21 08:32

      clocked up too many hours

  • Davearch - 2011-09-21 08:21

    Why bother ... since when have ANC leaders cared about the POOR ? As long as they are stuffing their faces with GREED who cares ? Zuma gets 5% increase !! For what, I ask, he cant make a decision and is probably the most useless leader on the continent. And that is saying something !!

      allie - 2011-09-21 08:39

      This uneducated man is now earning ,sorry, getting,sorry,givin by us over 200 grand per month.Just another form of stealing.

  • J - 2011-09-21 08:22


      ANC-FTL - 2011-09-21 08:43

      I agree there is no thinking of the future when it comes to the ANC - it's just how bling I can look today in front of my homies.

      myancmyfutur - 2011-09-21 08:59

      If the Presidential plane is not available, you reckon the President should fly kulula and the issue from then will be who should pay for his bodyguards, admin staff, cheffs and 1st lady? The weapons at international airports? Queing at car rental when he gets to the US? can kulula/1time/Santaco guarantee his security. On official state visits he flies around with no less than 30 people now we will start politicising that. The issue the DA is raising is why sis he not use the Presidential jet not whether he should have used commercial flights?

      ANC-FTL - 2011-09-21 11:17

      @myanc... - you miss the point entirely - They merely saying that it’s not in the countries best interest to throw money around while a HUGE percentage of our country is below the poverty line. There is no reason at all why Zuma needs to spend millions of rand on a trip when we clearly cannot afford it. You idiots wonder why you struggling all the time and battling with economic freedom it’s cause you have no clue how to respect money and other people. The ANC solution to creating jobs and reducing poverty is spending millions on luxuries and pointless flights for their comrades – good luck with that.

      myancmyfutur - 2011-09-21 16:36

      @ ANC-FTL Since I'm a fool and you're wiser by birth or skin colour I presume, then what would you suggest the president use as a means of travel on an official state visit when the presidential plane is in for repairs?

  • Audi - 2011-09-21 08:22

    If this is proven to be true I can only imagine the blatant disregard showed by the president – in the form of showing all law-abiding tax payers the middle finger - as he (and maybe a few of his wives) took off on his gilded charter flight over the impoverished squatter camps of Johannesburg – all this while they are sipping vintage champagne. Self absorbed ministers so mired in their over inflated egos who refused to have their bags scanned at airport security and will rather charter a costly flight to carry that ego, rampant waste, theft and graft at the SABC and billions of rand in wasteful and fraudulent expenditure committed to leasing buildings by government departments. This, South Africa, is why our treasury has to be called on to answer with regards to how they spend and commit the taxes that we so diligently pay. Everyday we are told that our economy is in recession, inflation is sky rocketing, jobs are lost in droves, people are dying of hunger and malnutrition, and our infant mortality rate is one of the highest in the world and the most basic of primary health care is out of reach for normal people. But no!!! As long as there is an unlimited amount of money in the state coffers let allow them plunder, steal and rob the masses while they eat caviar. This has got to stop!

  • ShakaN - 2011-09-21 08:24

    Why Bother? the ANC will do as they please and nobody can stop them, their voters do not know what is going on and believe anything they are told, so ZUMA will continue to do as he please's. You are better off discussing the weather.

      ANC-FTL - 2011-09-21 08:48

      ANC supporters make stones look smart.

  • spiral - 2011-09-21 08:25

    nice! earn 2.5mil a year & still wastes the tax payers money like this...stop flying overseas & worry about the problems in your own back yard Mr President!

  • Dilly - 2011-09-21 08:26

    What's happened with the Presidential plane? has this been grounded due to air unworthiness or are there no spare parts available from europe?

  • BoerSeun - 2011-09-21 08:27

    because he can rob the people from SA and nothing will happen, that is how he started his career and most probably finish it.

  • BoerSeun - 2011-09-21 08:29

    it is cheaper than refuse at the airport for checking your bag, a standard anc politicians do and think they are cool, might call the person that want to check the bag a racist.

  • justice_seeker - 2011-09-21 08:30

    Parvenu - a person who has recently or suddenly acquired wealth, importance, position, or the like, but has not yet developed the conventionally appropriate manners, dress, surroundings, etc.

  • allie - 2011-09-21 08:31

    Just pure black arogance.The "so what"attitude,mixed in with a bit of "niksgewoond"

  • witboy - 2011-09-21 08:33

    ground zuma and all ministers

  • TDK1 - 2011-09-21 08:35

    I love reading comment in all stories of my point of interest but some comments are just boring and disgusting, from both Darkies and Whiteys. Some people would scoop so low that they forget the reason they are on the site instead of posting something relevant to the story. I am a Darkie, don't belong to any political party and am simply interested in reading about constructive arguments from both sides. This is the Heritage month, let's UNITE for the better of our country. CAUTION: Never take the wrong side of the argument when your opponent is right.

      Ollie - 2011-09-21 08:43

      I agree - can't stand all the racist remarks - we must stand together to make SA a better place for all. Unity is needed. I hate to see tax money wasted when there are so many poor people out there

      Cheech - 2011-09-21 08:54

      Unite my ass boet...i see to much goings on and am being polarised by this government. The biggest worst racists... I used to be full of love and understanding......not anymore.

      Kenno - 2011-09-21 09:00

      Go and tell Malema that! He abuses white people at every turn!!

      MnrFotograaf - 2011-09-22 07:23

      I feel to see how this is not relevant to all of us who pay some form of taxes, which by the way is extorted from us as no-one in his right mind will pay it without threats of jail/fines etc etc.

  • witboy - 2011-09-21 08:35

    tax him on his perks

  • Humpme Dumpm - 2011-09-21 08:36

    Well....he does have 5 wives, 22 kids and a whole bunch of brutha's, cousins and nephews all who want to see what free oil contracts are available from the US......and while bra Jake is doing diplomatic work they all need to shop on their government issued credit cards. Now how are they supposed to bring back all those Jimmy Choo shoes

  • HiJack - 2011-09-21 08:38

    Another great example of the WaBenzi mentality.

  • Johannes Viljoen - 2011-09-21 08:39

    Dude when are the SA going to explain what happened @ Hangberg, where people were removed apartheid style, they ask and ask but cnt xplain when they abuse the people un the Western Cape that vote for them, also xplain why a contract was given to the bus compny that killed those kids @ Knysna. Why is it that contracts @ places such as Mplain Arlantis are never given to people from those areas (who are building contractrs) it always go to a rich white dude from plattekloof? Why is Max still a DA member? Why oh Why do we see a hike in crime at the cape flats while crime is stable in the richer areas? Why was a bike lane built in the richer part of cape town while the poorer part is left without even a decent (if at all) transport system. Why do the people in Atlantis only see Helen in election times, why when we know the trouble with gangs do we see less cops in those areas where gangs rule but more in the richers part of Cpt? Why Helen why???????????

      Johannes Viljoen - 2011-09-21 08:40

      You talk about a plane??? yOU SHOULD rather work for all in Cpt Helen

      chilli - 2011-09-21 08:51

      Johannes, where do u reside, if u not a Capetonian, stay out of it, keep ur comments to urself, do u really know y their are bike lanes on that stretch of road? have u ever compare the traffic situations btween the 2 provinces? no wonder there is so much accidents on Jhb's roads. Cape Town is a gangsters paradise and Jhb is a hijackers paradise and influx paradise, look at Jhb CBD in comparison to Cpt CBD. cATCH A WAKE UP CALL BRU!!!!!!

      Johannes Viljoen - 2011-09-21 08:56

      Chili dude born in Cpt & been there my whole life, you can tell me nothing about Cpt!!! I work with the people everyday. Dude I know what Im talking about, I know Hangberg I know the poeple who lost an eye in their apartheid style removal!!! Funny thing NO XPLANATION BY YOUR BELOVED HELEN

      Johannes Viljoen - 2011-09-21 08:58

      Most poor people in CPt or WC for that matter go to ANC offices when they have prblms, why is that?????

      Tolerant - 2011-09-21 10:07

      People that invade land, should be evicted. Well done Cape Town. It is against the law to invade property.

      Johannes Viljoen - 2011-09-21 10:25

      @ Tolerant, dude do check the Grootboom case and see where the flaw in your argument is

      normanmt - 2011-09-21 11:41

      Hey dude the topic was a chartered jet dude,here you on about CT dude,what sh@t do you smoke dude send us some dude then we can all dude for the rest of the day dude

      Johannes Viljoen - 2011-09-21 12:06

      But the point is dude why is Helen & co complaining when they cnt sort their sh*t out??? Even Tony Leon did not complain as much as this antie, her complaining reminds me of something a teacher use to say: "Die pot kanie vi die ketel sê jou gat is swart nie"

      Humpme Dumpm - 2011-09-21 14:40

      @Johannes Vuiljoen.....whats your point chap....lots of hot air and no point........and old Nationalist (now in cahoots with the ANC)

      Kenno - 2011-09-21 16:46

      Hey Dude dude due limited vocab dude. This is not about Helen, or are you to stupid to realise it?

  • falcon2020 - 2011-09-21 08:41

    @All (most/some) Bloggers - I dont know better, but by spewing the same rubbish everyday about the same issue is not going to get us to hear what bloggers with value have to add.

      sweets18 - 2011-09-21 08:51

      Too much bulldust racist sewarage going on here on News24 and the Editor likes this crap.

  • nonovm - 2011-09-21 08:47

    Its just waste of money, we need homes and schools and yet the president is wasting money on a private jet for few hours,.hai man. this money would have been used to build schools and RDP houses,shame on you JZ. SAA would have been fine... no wonder our people strike so much because they can see that we have money if JZ can spend 108000 for few hours We can all demand an increase....

  • ubufakazi - 2011-09-21 08:49

    Owwww JZ ROLLING LIKE A Rap Star hahahaha young money!!

  • Cheech - 2011-09-21 08:51

    Pumped up sense of self importance = immaturity on all levels. Savages. I'm surprised we have not seen this dwis in a military uniform a South American or African

  • Nkutist - 2011-09-21 08:53


  • birdman - 2011-09-21 08:57

    Wouldn't it be great if Pres Zuma took a commercial flight to wherever and was driven around in a Toyota?

  • Nkutist - 2011-09-21 08:58

    Ai people kill me, always having something to complain about an in the end it seems to be more about race then anything else. Yes Zuma took a charter flight for whatever reason, he's the president and it is somewhat expected. The wastage comes about with him taking two wives as its quite unnecessary even though thr president is entitled to some luxury. I myself don't agree with that practice as the people should come first, but it's common practice for international leaders. The DA always has something to dog the ANC about, we all know they're not doing to great right now but the DA isn't perfect either. They seem more focused on making the ANC look bad and not so focused on improving the country. We're all South Africans, black, white coloured, indian and asian so some of you people shouldm't go and distance yourselves. Argue on merit and avoid unnecessary childish comments!!

      Ollie - 2011-09-21 10:23

      No it's not common practice for all international leaders!!!!What a load of rubbish you stated - why should he be entitled to waste my tax money. If he wants luxuries then he must use his own R2.5 mill salary that he gets as that is pocket money because us tax payers pay for everything else. MAYBE YOU DON'T PAY TAX?

      tootingdel - 2011-09-21 10:44

      No you are wrong. There is no excuse for extravagence. There is a daily direct flight from JOburg to New York with 42 business class seats which would be more than enough for himself and his entourage. he must act like a leader and behave with the interest of the ordinary people of SA in mind. The money wasted could have been used to help those less well off. This government must stop this corrupt waste of money on the trappings of government and the frivolities of its ministers. Their focus must be to curb corruption, improve services, improve education not feather their own lifestyles. He is wasting your money as a tax payer and preventing it going to people that need it. Shame on you ZUMA and shame on anyone who supports him. Those that vote him into power must surely realise at some time that the current regime has no real interest in improving their position because a more educated electorate would vote them out of office!

      gatvol4corru - 2011-09-21 18:25

      3rd world comment and the lack of IQ is showing comrade! Foshini must be hard up with you there

  • corpo - 2011-09-21 08:59

    people please, what will come of it to ask questions on why, its just gona be another explanation , like it was done on principle or something, and then every1 forgets about it.

  • Horza - 2011-09-21 09:02

    History will reveal all

  • Boxxer - 2011-09-21 09:12

    I use web conferencing.

  • Shrek - 2011-09-21 09:29

    Has he not got his OWN aircraft????????????

  • IC1 - 2011-09-21 09:34

    So what the Falcon jet not good enough anymore? Or is it that all his wives, brats and great brats cant all fit into the Falcon. All these airs and graces, really, useless president

  • Not Black - 2011-09-21 10:05

    From GRAVY Trains to GRAVY Planes. This new ANC keeps wasting tax payers money, and have NO remorse at all.

  • Dumisani - 2011-09-21 10:23

    now this is crap, He is the president!!! doesnt matter if u like him or not. No president is expected to travel in plubic transport, including planes.

      tootingdel - 2011-09-21 10:56

      Even the Queen of England has travelled on a commercial flight. There is nothing unusual in heads of state doing that. The British PM went on holiday on a budget airline like kulula! Zuma should set an example to his ministers and say - travelling with ordinary people is just fine. He is still a person remember even if he is president - as even more so as president he should set an example. Business class on SAA is excellent. it would be great for him to use that. And there is a daily non-stop flight to New York from Joburg. He and his ministers must stop wasting tax payers money - your money - on frivolities that they don't need to do. Such money could be then properly channelled to those who need it. it would also prove that he is concerned about getting rid of waste and corruption in government!

      Kenno - 2011-09-21 11:33

      Explain why not !!

      frankm - 2011-09-21 18:06

      Have to agree with Dumisani here, and I do not vote ANC. But Zuma is our president and we need to respect that, it is only right that as head of state he travels on his own with his entourage only.

  • Voldemort - 2011-09-21 10:28

    Banana Republic

  • tootingdel - 2011-09-21 10:34

    There is no excuse for him taking anything other than an SAA flight. SAA now operates without stopping between Joburg and New York every single day. They have 42 seats in business class more than enough for him, his wives and his entourage. He should use the local carrier and be proud to do so. Anything else is extravagence and waste - how can anyone suggest that the ANC has the interest of SA and its people at heart - especially the unsuspecting poor who provide the ANC with their unwarranted support. Shame on you Zuma - I will refuse to call you president until you act like a president!

  • fuzuma - 2011-09-21 10:39

    Two vice mayors of east China's cities of Hangzhou and Suzhou, XuMaiyong and Jiang Renjie, were executed Tuesday morning for bribery, the Supreme People's Court said.The SPC approved the executions after reviewing both cases, Sun Jungong, a spokesman for the SPC, said during a press conference held in Beijing on Tuesday.Xu used his official power to interfere with project contracts and to help companies and people obtain land, promotions and tax breaks while acting as chief of the Xihu District government, Party secretary of the district and mayor of Zhejiang Province's city of Hangzhou, Sun said.Xu sought and accepted a total of 145 million yuan in bribes and embezzled another 53.59 million yuan from a state-owned property development firm.In addition, Xu arranged the illegal return of 71.7 million yuan in land purchase payments to a property development firm in which he had a stake, Sun added.Jiang took advantage of his position as deputy mayor of Jiangsu Province's city of Suzhou to obtain benefits from real estate development projects for five companies, Sun said.In return, Jiang took bribes, including more than 108 million yuan in cash, from property developers.Xu was convicted of bribery, embezzlement and abuse of power and sentenced to death by the Intermediate People's Court of the city of Ningbo on May 12.Jiang was convicted of bribery and sentenced to death by theIntermediate People's Court of the city of Nanjing in April 2008.

  • letsee - 2011-09-21 10:41

    Because they don't care about costs except when is to pay ANC salaries and increase wages.