Ramphele brings nothing new, ANC insists

2013-02-18 22:23

Johannesburg - Mamphela Ramphele's party political platform is grievance driven, the ANC said on Monday.

"The initiative by Dr Ramphele is goading South Africans to participate at the periphery of our political dispensation," spokesperson Jackson Mthembu said in a statement.

"Whilst Dr Ramphele rehashes the known challenges facing our country, she does not bring any new suggestions to the table."

The issues raised by Ramphele were covered in the recent State of the Nation address by President Jacob Zuma.

They would be fully attended to in Parliamentary debates this week, as well as during the appropriation of budgets by both national and provincial departments, he said.

After weeks of speculation that she was planning to form a political party, Ramphele announced that she had formed a "party political platform".

Ramphele has called her party political platform Agang SA, which means "build South Africa" in Sepedi.

She said she intended using it to contest the 2014 national elections.

Mthembu said Ramphele provided no clarity on what new things the party political platform would bring to the political terrain.

"It is clear that this undefined party political platform is a fore-runner to the formation of a political party by Dr Ramphele.

"We welcome her to the political environment and we hope that she has the necessary staying power.

"We will meet her where it matters most - in the hearts and minds of our people," he said.

The Congress of SA Trade Unions (Cosatu) said it saw no future for Ramphele's political party.

"As with any new party we get the inevitable political demagoguery," Cosatu spokesperson Patrick Craven said in a statement.

"We have however to look behind such fine but empty words, at the record of the person uttering them.

"What we can expect from someone who was a managing director of the World Bank from 2000 to 2004 and the chairperson of Gold Fields from 2010, until she suddenly resigned just days before her Agang announcement," Craven said.

He said Ramphele's economic policies were indistinguishable from those of the Democratic Alliance, who wanted to free the market economy so that it could exploit the workers more ruthlessly and increase the profits of big business.

"Workers should not be fooled. The ANC has an incomparably better track record of struggle than any of the opposition parties, including this latest one."

He said the ANC and its alliance were more likely to begin economic transformation in the country.

White capitalist influence

The SA National Civic Organisation (Sanco) said Ramphele's decision was flawed.

"As Sanco, we say to Dr Mamphela Ramphele, welcome to the world of reality," it said in a statement.

"Now that she has opened herself up to scrutiny, we are justified to point out a few concerns about her and her ambitions."

Sanco said Ramphele's decision was based on "seriously flawed" assumptions by political commentators.

"We believe that their flawed opinions, born of white capitalist influence... are based on whims, not proper research," it said.

"We believe that these political analysts... think that a certain number of service delivery protests [and] attacks on ANC leadership by other disgruntled individuals, are key pointers that the ANC-led movement is collapsing. All of you are wrong."

Sanco said Ramphele and her "elitist following" underestimated the grassroots of African National Congress loyalists.

It also questioned whether she had held a teaching position at the University of Cape Town (UCT) before being promoted to vice-chancellor.

"Some insiders at the UCT, we are told, say it took seven years to correct the bungles left behind by your leadership in that institution," it said.

"They say the biggest blunder or disaster you left behind was the amalgamation of all the arts and social science schools into one big monster that was unmanageable."

It said she served only one four-year term at the World Bank, and that her appointment was the result of "political correctness".

"Welcome to the world of reality politics. We can safely say that the life-span of your party will be as short as your numerous stints at various institutions," Sanco said.

The Christian Democratic Party said it was not clear what political philosophy Ramphele intended to follow.

"What is apparent however is that the language used by her is noticeably reminiscent of the liberal, with a strong undertone of the socialist, ideologies," CDP leader Theunis Botha said in a statement.

"This is no different to what is presently being propagated by both the ANC and the DA."

Ramphele had omitted to mention the people who were to help her form the new party political platform.

"One wonders why in the midst of such an impassioned plea for transparency this was omitted, and it would be interesting to know who are the financial backers of this venture," said Botha.

The problems Ramphele pointed out were already known, and the solutions given were no different to other offered before, he added.

  • squeegee.pilot - 2013-02-18 22:29

    Mmmm I would be worried if I were you JZ....

      SharonE - 2013-02-18 23:06

      He would be even more worried if she challenged him to a debate...

      phuphudlelwe.vukayilahle - 2013-02-19 03:38

      @squeegee not only JZ but but the cANCer in general this lady is like a herbex to them she is going to drain their bloody fats down to the lowest level.

      Sganja - 2013-02-19 05:14

      Truly speaking I don't care about you and Ramphela.

      phuphudlelwe.vukayilahle - 2013-02-19 05:47

      @ sganja mngani wam but in this time around we really need to allow all the golden oldies to go to the sunset they dont have any space among us cause they are still holding grudges from both side and a house devided by two will never stand on its own.

      ClassWarTrotsky - 2013-02-19 06:41

      Another damp-squib flash in the pan that will come to naught. Yawn.

      JManAtheoi - 2013-02-19 08:26

      @ Toby - I was just about to say the same thing.... they just LOVE to "struggle"...pathetic really.

      derek.francois.3 - 2013-02-20 12:48


  • jc.smit - 2013-02-18 22:29

    Suggestion one: Don't vote for the ANC, if the last 2 years haven't shown you why, the last 15 should.

      tersia.louw.12 - 2013-02-18 22:58

      And if I were you, Mlungisi, I would save myself the embarrassment of showing the readers of these posts how lousy my ANC education was.

      christelle.theron.3 - 2013-02-18 23:04

      Mhlungisi -hm hm hm - are you calling this intelligent lady with her awesome education, integrity, honesty,dignity a white capitalist? Wow, first time I actually read somebody admitting that a person with these qualities can only be seen as a white capitalist. Than you God I am one too - really want to be associated with people like her!

      Sganja - 2013-02-19 05:17

      You are funny,Anc did a lot but I agree it was not enough,that's why we need majority to own land.

      colingkearns - 2013-02-19 08:02

      @Sganja..and do what with the land? Overgraze it with goats or start tea plantations that go bankrupt? Please man get real, rhetoric does not fill up stomachs, you remind me of the AWB people that drink brandy & coke, all talk but little successfull results.

  • Black B.E.E Diamond - 2013-02-18 22:31

    Or does the ANC just see her as a threat to their power. Are they afraid that's she's speaking out against issues which the ANC fails to address like corruption, education, poverty etc.

      Flippncool - 2013-02-19 01:24

      No. NO! They are against her because it will play perfectly for them to be against her - the more the ANC are against her the more votes will got to her and weaken the DA. The ANC is banking on one thing only - weakening the ANC. F her and her lies. I will vote DA.

      carl.fourie.9 - 2013-02-20 09:27

      She is bringing grace and a intellectual mindset to the table, something the ANC does not possess

  • grace.andtruth.77 - 2013-02-18 22:31

    SHe doesn't NEED to bring anything new to the table you ANC idiot! The table is FULL... Overflowing! All she needs to do is keep her promises (which the ANC cant/wont do)... SO new NO! Action YES!!! Is the chief flip feeling threatened? Hahaha I hope so!!!

  • Black B.E.E Diamond - 2013-02-18 22:31

    Dr Mampela Rampele, you already have my vote and I'm sure you will get many more.

  • george.bennie - 2013-02-18 22:31

    Neither does the ANC after 19 years. I'll take my chances with the clever woman.

  • SharonE - 2013-02-18 22:32

    Sniff sniff Is that fear I smell coming from the ANC camp?

      christelle.theron.3 - 2013-02-18 22:42

      LOL - nope, I think it is something more disgusting that you smell :-)

  • werner.nel.712 - 2013-02-18 22:33

    "They say the biggest blunder or disaster you left behind was the amalgamation of all the arts and social science schools into one big monster that was unmanageable." This sounds exactly what happenned in Johannesburg, all the small municipalities bungled into COJ. Hence the bad state of the city. W

  • rian.jagger.3 - 2013-02-18 22:33

    As if the ANC has brought something new lately... Oh flip... I forgot...The brought the perfection of corruption!

  • talana.malherbe - 2013-02-18 22:34

    Oh Jackson, but neither is the ANC and they've plenty of time to find solutions to these challenges but were too busy filling their coffers... Come now 2014!

      grace.andtruth.77 - 2013-02-18 22:36

      Yeah! 20 YEARS..... The only thing they've brought to the table is empty plates for starving people!! This all to feed cows at Nkandla

  • thembinkosi.jozie - 2013-02-18 22:34

    The new solution is to arrest zuma and all the other corrupt anc members then there will be more money for service delivery

      Erna - 2013-02-18 22:43

      And auction off Nkandla!

      kortbroek.duplessis - 2013-02-19 02:41

      Now that sounds like a real solution to me.

      phuphudlelwe.vukayilahle - 2013-02-19 03:51

      And reopen the island pls its seems as if they miss it big time.

      hein.huyser - 2013-02-19 06:46

      Jozie, if they arrest all the corrupt anc members the whole party need to be removed. Everyone is filthy dirty. They either steal or know someone who does, and by not reporting it, they are as guilty.

  • SydneyG - 2013-02-18 22:36

    Please Jacko speak for yourself and your anc...let us as Sans decide our own fate, we can think for ourselves, we can see for ourselves. We're not imbeciles, keep your opinion to yourself. Ramphele isn't addressing the anc but the citizens of this and your comrades are way way beyond salvation or are lost and buried in your corruption! I for one am sick and tired of your tired lies. I find your call very shocking, it's like criminals telling other wannabes not to bother trying to steal or rob any banks because they have already stolen whatever is stealable in the country...Ha!

      nkumb - 2013-02-19 00:27

      Yes, all the ANC leadership does is to make empty promises. The common trick is to promise on things to be done tomorrow for the struggling citizens.But that tomorrow never comes, and now Jaco goes a step further; he knows our thoughts and feelings.

      gary.gordon.961993 - 2013-02-19 04:51

      Sydney I think the Sans have got the short end of the stick in every possible way, I hope there are many who understand the current situation as you do.

  • mcedise.l.buhlungu - 2013-02-18 22:39

    Ms Ramphele already has the Anc running scared. Wow. I can't wait for the events to unfold before us going into the future. Don't let anyone talk you out of your plans ma'am!

  • stanley.mabunda.5 - 2013-02-18 22:39

    anc....let other people bring something,for 18 good years failing the nation crime,corruption et al

  • pushocapture.maake - 2013-02-18 22:42

    At least it's not gravy driven, unlike your soup dripping train

  • chaze.damonze - 2013-02-18 22:46

    yeah, she made a party cause the ANC cant act. Same problems if not more has risen under their power

  • motho.batho.98 - 2013-02-18 22:49

    They only thing that she brings on table is to criticise the ANC, i.e. she talks about corruption in public sector, what about the private sector? I awnt to vote some to supports principle than vote for hypocrite.

      saintbruce.bruce - 2013-02-18 23:14

      She has more credibility and integrity in her pinkie finger than the whole ANC NEC put together! She brings the ORIGINAL vision for a great Nation, not the one weakened by Cadre deployment, corruption and Nepotism that the ANC favour so much. With the right Luitenants alongside her she can pull the youth, the unemployed and maybe a big section of organised labour to her side. If she offers and can deliver real hope versus the ANC who continue to try to grope at running an economy, she has a chance.

      john.cryink - 2013-02-18 23:39

      mothbato the cANCer, communist party and cosatu are only causing destruction, the whole economy is being ruined th "alliance" must truly be proud that it is the reason for all the trouble in SA

      hapzizo.khejaman - 2013-02-23 20:13

      Motho, poor Motho! I bet you were educated in the ANC education system. Otherwise, you would know better how to say what you want to say. If by now, you still have not realised that they've destroyed the most basic need of a country - education - then maybe you are as idiotic as all of them. Khejaman.

      Tersia Louw - 2013-03-04 23:13

      Motho - There very probably is corruption in the private sector; businessmen defrauding each other, stealing each other's money. That's criminal. Corruption is the public sector means OUR money is being stolen - big difference, but still criminal except no-one goes to jail.

  • mbusi.t.nzimande - 2013-02-18 22:50

    Still think her contribution to politics would be far greater as a DA member,the young Lindiwe Mazibuko would have gained plenty from two headstrong women in Ramphele and Helen

      KUSTAMK - 2013-02-18 22:59

      I like the DA and I respect them but if she would go the route there would be a fail, as a black person I know how older black people feel about DA, they just have a way of linking it to the apartheid government and that would make her loose a lot. But if we could get rid of that. It would ignite a winning party.

      hein.huyser - 2013-02-19 06:55

      Mbusi, the majority of the vites she is aiming for believe the anc lies that DP will bring back apartheid. As if Zille didn't gave her life to oppose apartheid. Starting a party without this baggage is quite brave but the right thing to do. Under the DP banner you would've heard the dinosaurs scream "teagirl" again. Now she can be her own self. The political aware people in the anc will now be either moved into action or the history books.

      Tersia Louw - 2013-03-04 23:14

      There's nothing to stop the DA and Agang being allies in the future, Hein.

  • mbusi.t.nzimande - 2013-02-18 22:50

    Still think her contribution to politics would be far greater as a DA member,the young Lindiwe Mazibuko would have gained plenty from two headstrong women in Ramphele and Helen

      fanie.gerber1972 - 2013-02-19 07:00


      WvdWesthuizen - 2013-02-19 07:26

      I think she distances herself from the DA to try and get votes from people who won't vote DA because they feel it's a "white" party.

      squeegee.pilot - 2013-02-19 07:54

      Once her power base has grown you can expect a coalition...

  • chris.rams.9 - 2013-02-18 22:50

    mother ramphele,age is not catching up well with you. i wonder what biko thinks about you.

      mantsho.tlali - 2013-02-18 23:13

      What are you on about now, are you worried about your age?

      ron.samuels.129 - 2013-02-18 23:13

      what a stupid comment

      elizabeth.bothma.58 - 2013-02-19 07:37

      Really, you're worried about looks, when our country is seriously being run in to the ground by the ANC?! As she's speaking up about their dishonesty, mismanagement of our tax money, lack of education ....... I'm quite sure that Steve Biko will approve! - 2013-02-19 08:23

      I love the way ANC supporters detest being criticised but they insult everyone around them incessantly!

      duncan.gray.779 - 2013-02-19 13:02

      Younger than JZ

  • lettie.mulder.7 - 2013-02-18 22:52

    "We have to look behind such fine but empty words, at the record of the the person uttering them ..." Exactly. We have done that and found the person, his record and his empty words wanting. That's why we welcome Dr Ramphele. Rattled, aren't you?

  • KUSTAMK - 2013-02-18 22:53

    Keep telling yourself that but the newest thing you brought us was corruption.

  • Jack - 2013-02-18 22:53

    What SA politics needs is moderated debates (as in the good ol' USA). The slickest, "I promise you everything if you give me your votes" candidate soon emerges and the public vote en masse hoping for change, only to see more of the same. In the mean time can she speak the language of the proletariat; illiterate, hooked on grants, unemployable? Probably not. However, with a hat like that she might scare them into submission!

      modise.moletsane.3 - 2013-02-19 01:41

      Forgeting one thing, this SA not USA

      Tersia Louw - 2013-03-04 23:18

      Are you saying that SA politicians aren't capable of debate, Modise? Looking at the eloquence of the ANC you're probably right. DA and Agang are more than capable of holding their own and winning debates, mainly because they can thinks.

  • lawrence.sathekge - 2013-02-18 22:56

    You cowards, you think you're bigger than her, wait until 2014 elections when that big head of yours will bump against the wall, a bunch of cowards with their spineless President!!!, I really hate the fact that you could let Zuma ruin what Mandela and others fought so hard for..

      ron.samuels.129 - 2013-02-18 23:16

      I agree with you totally and completely!

      hein.huyser - 2013-02-19 07:02

      unaccountability disrespect Cadre deployment failing education failed saps failing infrastructure tollgates open borders no economic growth zero economic future legislated racism Nope, the anc actually brought us a lot to be thankfull for

  • lerato.mako.7 - 2013-02-18 22:56

    he don't know zoomers profile,where does zoomer come 4rom b4 he can become a pre,

      hapzizo.khejaman - 2013-02-23 20:23

      Come on Lerato, clean up your grammar. Ha!!!

  • patricia.dewet.92 - 2013-02-18 22:59

    If she could just stop the looting, that will be more than enough. She is clever with proper schooling in the old South Africa, not this rubbish of schooling the poor kids are doing at the moment. I think the ANC are scared that more can be exposed not by the DA but by a Clever BLACK WOMEN. Just go for it, hit them where it hurts.

      ron.samuels.129 - 2013-02-18 23:18

      exactly,very good comment!

      Tersia Louw - 2013-03-04 23:19

      Mr Zuma sooo doesn't like clever blacks.

  • Omnivore - 2013-02-18 23:02

    Ha. The ANC's utter unwillingness to tackle the "KNOWN challenges" IS the problem.

  • thabo.manganye - 2013-02-18 23:02

    Just like Cope, instead of dividing the votes , it will be wiser for all opposition parties to unite and form one strong opposition with one thing in mind, making s.a a better country, there are ANC loyalists and I tell you, you can never tell my granny to vote for anything that is against the party formed by the likes of Madiba. Tambo,Sisulu etc because they still have that history of apartheid engraved in their minds so if the new generations , the people with diverse minds can be coid to vote for change that can only be done with having one strong united opposition party. The anc vote will never change but also the opposition vote is growing so are the political parties at the end the anc is still going to emerge victorious

      mantsho.tlali - 2013-02-18 23:22

      Your right there, ANC loyalists, the same my Granny, This are the only people killing us. When the economy collapse as it is slowly going down, it will be the day they wake up, because there will be no more free pension. They dont understand nothing about Economy,

      joe.bat.52 - 2013-02-19 08:07

      Absolutely agree with that statement @Thabo! and because of too many opposition I dont believe it will ever get close with voting numbers to make the ANC worried. but I am always hoping for hope sake that SA can have one big opposition party that can sway the votes if the people are not happy with the way their country is being run, much like USA where people can swing votes and change goverment without loyalties.

      barnie.huysamer - 2013-02-19 09:34

      It took a good couple of debates between my Mom and myself to convince her that voting for the NP is bad news. She was in her late 70's and had voted NP all her life. She eventually saw the light and changed her vote. Please take the time to educate those in your family. It is for our children's benefit that we get this country back on track.

      Moloko Kgomo - 2013-02-19 10:00

      @barnie.huysamer: might be too early for our elders,who are still licking wounds from apartheid,to be convinced. Because right now some of our people are confused of this Political Platform,perhaps with course of time they'll opt for AGANG.

  • jungleboy073 - 2013-02-18 23:03

    Really, this lady looks like she's some sort of star wars goddess who just arrived from the mothership and started talking of vague battle plans to rid us of the dark ANC empire. Every time I have seen her speak she has been smart, snappy and believable. Today, she looked and sounded like a bad movie. I just don't buy it.

      clement.mokone - 2013-02-18 23:25

      Indeed you're correct. Mthembu is MAD. Now he sees defeat through his eyes and he is trying to be a Mr know-it-all. NOthing is the ANC leadership, these THIEVES. ANC leadership is a disgrace and has a BAD reputation.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2013-02-19 13:40

      Jungleboy 073. You obviously know nothing about traditional dress. You should.

  • stefan.vanrensburg.94 - 2013-02-18 23:04

    All sorts of interesting admissions from the various quarters, this. Joe Public wants a good political clean up. The monster now in power will suck the lot of us dry and we will be left with the consequences. Good luck to this woman.

  • mantsho.tlali - 2013-02-18 23:08

    What is Wrong with the ANC? I was watching about this on Aljazeera, ANC is in trouble, young people are unhappy with them, they are happy that this woman is forming a party and they are going to vote. Sure Mthebu should stop drinking now and start to pay attention.

      modise.moletsane.3 - 2013-02-19 01:35

      Those young people they don't even border to register to vote. So don't count them .

  • tuscartau.tau - 2013-02-18 23:10

    Mthembu,how about welcoming the new political party into political world instead of attacking it.Nkandla,corruption and poor educational system are the reasons for the formation of this party.Come 2014 the voters will decide for themselves for the party of their choices

  • lynn.hattingh - 2013-02-18 23:10

    If her formation of a political platform is grievance driven then who do we have to thank? The ANC! You have taken a once prosperous and beautiful country and flushed it down the toilet, then you have the audacity to complain! You have become a danger to both yourselves and us and its time to turn on the brakes. You go Dr Ramphele you have the ANC wetting their nickers.

  • ron.samuels.129 - 2013-02-18 23:11

    you ANC guys know nothing about the heart and minds of the(your)people,all you know and care about is how to enrich yourself! You are a selfish bunch of ANC losers who deserve to be in jail instead of running the country!

  • Alan - 2013-02-18 23:13

    Jackson you are on the periphery, now voetsak.

      lynn.hattingh - 2013-02-18 23:18


      odirile.moalafi - 2013-02-18 23:27

      funniest thing i read today. big ups!:D

  • calvin.mbhele - 2013-02-18 23:23

    Hmmmmm, NFP,DA,COPE,ID,UDM,FV ,IFP,AZAPO,ACDP,KISS,MF now ladies n gentlemen introducing Agang I wonder how its pronounced,sound afrikaaner/Sesotho go me,english n zulu speaking people may find it hard to pronounce this one if a g sound afrikaans/sesotho, so all these wonderful parties are desperately wrestling ONE MONSTER??? Hahahaha,making cANCer invincible, the more they stop mentioning anc's name the better,if they could all combine and for United South African Movement or something,they would outclass the Anc in majority!!! This do not need education,just common sense!!!

      clement.mokone - 2013-02-18 23:29

      Do u still think ANC is in the majority? Politics is changing man. Move with the times. ANC is incredibly worried now.

      calvin.mbhele - 2013-02-18 23:38

      You definitely are blind folded, are you not even following News24 surveys? The majority of SA is the poor class,and who they vote? ID? IFP? DA?

      modise.moletsane.3 - 2013-02-19 01:29

      @clement I really don't where do u live. It looks like you're having a hope like minority in this country.

      calvin.mbhele - 2013-02-19 06:21

      No Modise, this thing clement is a garden boy in Mr van Vooren's corner house by my house. So he lives in an out building with the dogs, don't be surprised by lack of brains of common sense. Blame apartheid

      linds.ronhouse - 2013-02-19 11:50

      I'm truly excited about Agang. My only plea to Dr Ramphele is to resist the temptation to play chihuahua politics (Tony Leon was an expert in this). Always barking at the rulling party or government at every opportunity they get. I find it very unattractive. Agang must campaign and win votes on its own and not rely on the failures of the ANC. For me it's like courtship. You don't win a girl's heart by telling her how bad her current boyfriend is and how stupid she is to love him if you do that you actually achieve the opposite. You push her away instead of closer to you.

  • Thanduxolo Galada - 2013-02-18 23:23

    I love the ANC's "white capital" rhetoric, they drink whisky, dress in suits and ties while all the time saying someth

  • calvin.mbhele - 2013-02-18 23:29

    Disappointing to read about so much hate of NKANDLA in SA, the place has no running water, no electricity, the schools are far,geez, Zumas neighbor's homes are made of mud huts, has any of you drove to that place? Tar road was only put there 3years ago, one proper functioning school in Zumas area was built by Tata its called Umnyakanya, what Zuma really has done for Nkandla people? NOTHING! Proof? Nkandla is nolonger under ANC,its ruled by IFP.

  • Bongiwe Bongie Mabongz Dlutu - 2013-02-18 23:32

    New parties with good Agendas, every time when elections are near.....''In 2014'' I am not voting there is still gravel Road from Ngqeleni, I am not voting for any party until my village have good water supply and electricity...,..I know these new parties and old ones will act as if they I want actions

      SharonE - 2013-02-18 23:37

      Bongiwe, if you are not happy with any party, then go to vote, but spoil your vote, make a big cross over the whole ballot, or a cross for each party. You then exercise your democratic right completely! The vote is spoilt but still has to be counted. Please do not abstain from voting, that is not what the people fought so hard for...

      stanley.mabunda.5 - 2013-02-19 00:10

      educate yourself you bloody stupid moron

      phuphudlelwe.vukayilahle - 2013-02-19 03:47

      The only gravel road i can see is in your mind,even in my LIBODE village there are lots of gravel roads the only way of wiping away those roads is though education.

      marathodi.leru - 2013-02-19 03:49

      This is simply stupid. Who do you expect to come build that infrastructure in your village if you didn't vote?

      gary.gordon.961993 - 2013-02-19 04:35

      This is the type of reasoning that keeps the corrupt 'masters' in power. I gues thinking voters have no hope with this type of logic dominating the majority of the voters in this country.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2013-02-19 13:44

      Bongiwe. To get a good road you need to vote. What you want everything before voting?. Are we, the voters, responsible for your road or are you?.

      donald.perumal - 2013-02-19 15:02

      @Bongiwe Bongie Mabongz Dlutu Service delivery can only take place if the right people are voted in -try Agang and the roads and water will come!

  • rollingstone.kanyane - 2013-02-18 23:35

    isnt that better to be led by an intellect than someone with a grade 4?

      calvin.mbhele - 2013-02-18 23:40

      Its even better if God leads you.

      calvin.mbhele - 2013-02-18 23:58

      He speak quiet good english for a rural grade4 boy, does that say something about Nkandla schools?

      dave.kofang - 2013-02-19 03:50

      For the fact that you dnt notice his language shortcomings says a lot about you

  • Ntombenhlez - 2013-02-18 23:35

    Lekota and Zille this is the end of your road.....

      Tersia Louw - 2013-03-04 23:24

      Or an amazing coalition in the not-too-distant future!

  • rory.n.price - 2013-02-18 23:43

    The only integrity Zuma has is what he washes down the toilet on a daily basis

  • lungelo.khumalo.7 - 2013-02-18 23:49

    The Gravy Train will soon be stopped for good!.. Most important of what Dr Ramphele promises to bring is HOPE!.. Hope for us and the FUTURE generations!!

  • millionwatts1 - 2013-02-18 23:54

    I will vote for her. (Once she takes off that SILLY HAT)

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2013-02-19 13:47

      Millionwats1. That silly hat belongs to her traditional dress. You know like veldskoene belong to some people.

  • criticallyhonest - 2013-02-18 23:57

    Can these guys from the alliance talk a lot of juvenile drivel? It is like reading from a primary school cardboard covered book. I tell you what, if there really is a majority who believe and trust these morons SA is in much deeper cr*p than we think.

  • munyaradzi.tachiona - 2013-02-18 23:59

    This lady sounds too sophisticated to reach the people at grass root level,she will not achieve anything among the real voters,ANC is the only solution to the African majority of this country,you need to listen to Zuma and National Development Plan and see how those will bring prosperity to S.A's poor which sponsors of this woman are aiming against.

      stanley.mabunda.5 - 2013-02-19 00:07

      munyaradzi only in zimbabwe she will not achieve anything,why r u here....because of the so called stupid african solutions

      Tersia Louw - 2013-03-04 23:26

      We've BEEN listening to Zuma and the NDP, but it's all just talk and no actual DOING.

  • munyaradzi.tachiona - 2013-02-19 00:02

    She wont achieve much,ANC is here to stay,the party that really understands the people,the Media can promote her but she will not make an impact at grassroot level,she is elitist and sadly liked by majority of former oppressors,Zuma -Ramaphosa with National Development Programme are the answer and the way forward.

      odirile.moalafi - 2013-02-19 00:36

      You Seriously need to wake! The ANC is running our country to a dump. if anyone has nothing new to offer, it is them.

      talana.malherbe - 2013-02-19 06:51

      Yes keep thinking and voting like this and in 5 or 10 years time you will see the masses still striking and destroying everything in their part because they are still jobless and hungry.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2013-02-19 13:50

      Munyardzi.tachiona. Now we understand why the people are living in shacks and staying unemployed. The ANC knows that is what they want and keep giving it to them. Man some people are brainless.

      criticallyhonest - 2013-02-19 14:19

      Obviously 'understanding the people' is code for being sufficiently devious and amoral to screw the people without them even realising it. Like many have can screw some of the people all of the time, all of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time. WAKE UP!

  • millionwatts1 - 2013-02-19 00:08

    Personally she reminds me of those kids who go on Idols because their granny thinks they are such wonderful singers. Yet everyone else is perplexed at how someone can be so tone deaf they can't even hear the judges begging them to stop. ( On a serious note though, she must take off that silly hat if she wants to attract serious voters)

      Tersia Louw - 2013-03-04 23:27

      Enough about the headgear, Jimmy, time to grow up.

  • mbusi.t.nzimande - 2013-02-19 00:10

    Copy and pasted criticism,hahahaha rehashed facts is exactly the phrase used by every news paper in the country to criticize Zuma's SONA speech.On the upside when the country spirals into civil war,we will always have the fond memories of the ANC's playground tactics to keep us going

  • stanley.mabunda.5 - 2013-02-19 00:12

    it shows that our democracy is maturing